From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #58 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, February 17 1999 Volume 05 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Guitarists [Bill Mazur ] Re: Guitarists [rlewis@adnc.com (Russ Lewis)] Bel Canto Rush/Images [Dirk Kastens ] Re: IQ's Ever/Guitarists ["Tim Finney" ] Re: re : guitarists [Michael Colford ] Re: Bass Guitarists , and a question about live music at home... [Michael] Re: Vital social issues 'n stuff with Kelly [dave ] RE: Guitarists ["Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" ] Jenn Vix at: www.rollingstone.com [Neile Graham ] Guitarists [John J Henshon ] catchin up. [iflin@sirius.com] guitarists/bassists [Tamar Boursalian ] Fwd: Sixpence None The Richer and Nettwerk Management... [Michael Curry <] re: Falwell outs Tinky Winky ["Tom Ditto" ] Re: re : guitarists [FAMarcus@aol.com] Northampton & the Iron Horse [Richard ] stretch princess and free cds [meredith ] Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse [meredith ] Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse [Carolyn Andre ] Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse [Michael Curry ] Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse ["Kevin B. Pease" Subject: Re: Guitarists Meredith, Hello! Please see my comments below: > Bill Mazur added: > > >Sarah McLachlan is another female artist that comes to mind who uses > >alternate tunings to good effect. I know that she sites Joni Mitchell as > >an influence. Maybe she learned these tricks from her. > > I agree that she uses some interesting tunings, but I hope you weren't > trying to include her on a "great guitarists" list. No, I wouldn't say that Sarah is a great guitarist, for whatever my subjective opinion is worth. I was acknowledging her interesting use of open tunings and Joni's probable influence on that. I do consider Joni to be a great guitarist for the reasons that I have stated previously. Many years ago, I used to play with a wonderful guitarist that used some amazing and exotic open tunings. He was very much into Joni and gave her all of the credit for his experimentation with open tunings. Jimmy Page was another guitarist that introduced me to open tunings. I really love "The Rain Song" on which he uses a very unique open tuning to create a very beautiful song. John Renbourn and Bert Jansch's use of the celtic DAGDAD tuning also opened up many new doors for me in my playing. > >I really think that Happy is a great guitarist. > I also wouldn't say that, either. Again, she's quite good (and > really, who the hell am I to even think I can be a judge, I couldn't play > the guitar if my life depended on it :), but I think there's that spark > missing that would cross the line into "great". To me, a great guitarist > has to leave me breathless, going "how did s/he DO that?!?", amazed by how > effortless it all seems. I do at times tend to be overly effusive with my praise. I really do like Happy's guitar playing. In particular, I like her picking style, her choice of chord voicings, and her use of effects on her acoustic guitar on "The Keep". I definitely understand your point about what constitutes being "great" means to you. > >There are definitely a few female artists that play piano and/or other > >keyboards that are known for their instrumental prowess as well. Tori > >immediately comes to mind. She is an amazing piano and keyboard > >(harpsichord, mellotron) player. Her playing is so rhythmic and melodic. > >She can really solo too. > > Tori is one of the greatest pianists ever, in my book (and I played piano > so I think I can at least say that :). When she plays, she becomes part of > the instrument, and the music just flows from her - it's almost palpable. > It's not just the teechnical prowess she displays (and she does that in > spades), but the feeling and emotion she puts through in her playing that > just plain blows me away. > > (I'm watching her Sessions performance right now, so I'm experiencing this > feeling firsthand as I type. :) Yes! Yes! Yes! Tori is amazing!!! OK, there I go again. No apologies though. That is just the way I feel about Tori! ;-) I agree with every point that you make here Meredith! It *IS* the feeling and emotion that she puts into her music and her performances that blows me away as well! All of the technical prowess in the world doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't have some real honest passion and emotion in your playing! > Back to guitarists: > > I haven't seen Chris Cunningham listed ... but he's not all that well-known > outside of NYC circles I guess, unless you've seen him with Susan McKeown > or Katell Keineg. He's really, really good. > > On to bassists: > > Gail Ann Dorsey gets my vote for best chyck bassist I've ever seen. Plus > she's just so damn cool. :) Laura Love is also pretty good, but she > doesn't show her cops as often as she used to. > > Hands-down the best human bassist I've ever seen is Victor Lamont Wooten. > He's a showoff, sure, but he's got the goods to back up the splash. Stunning. > > Dave Chalfant of The Nields wins runner-up. It's hard to believe he really > hasn't been playing the bass guitar that long, in the grand scheme of > things. He also gets extra points for actually using the 5th string on his > 5-string bass. :) > > That's enough on this I think. You are no doubt right about that one! Based on some of the other recent posts, it appears that this thread has taken on a Monty Python/Spinal Tap twist. :-) Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:07:02 -0800 From: rlewis@adnc.com (Russ Lewis) Subject: Re: Guitarists Danny Bonaduce sez: >the lead guitarist for the ARCHIES still gives me chills.......and how come >when anybody speaks about goddesses that no one mentions Mrs. COWSILL?????? > > with love.....danny bonaduce Well, Danny, if you're gonna invoke the name of Barbara Cowsill, you've gotta mention Mrs. Miller. (Pause here for a reverential moment of silence.) She could hit those high ones like nobody's business -- a voice out of heaven itself. Just check out her vocalizing on "Monday, Monday" and "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" -- pure chick-pop ecstasy. Oh, didja know that Susan Cowsill married Peter Holsapple of the dBs? You never know when you might get asked this on a VH1 game show. (If anyone ever does, please tell the rest of us.) Scott Tissue El Cajon CA * * * "Remember, ladies, men are like kitchen tiles: lay 'em right once and you can walk on 'em for a lifetime." -- the Rev. Billy C. Wirtz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:09:14 +0100 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Bel Canto Rush/Images Hi, I recently found out that Rush and Images are identical except for the cover. The Rush artwork is much better IMO. Rush has been released one year ago by Bel Canto themselves in Norway only. Images is the european-wide "official" release by Sony Music France. Images will also be released in the USA. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:39:36 +0000 From: "Tim Finney" Subject: Re: IQ's Ever/Guitarists - ---------- >From: Bill Mazur >To: Tim Finney >Subject: Re: IQ's Ever/Guitarists >Date: Tue, Feb 16, 1999, 6:41 AM > >I just recently bought "Starfish". This is a CD that I have wanted for a >long time and just never got around to buying until recently. The Church >are a wonderful band. If you want to hear *fantastic* Church guitar, Starfish is not actually the place to look (Reptile being the exception), as the songs are fairly straightforward (that's a good thing in many ways, though). Priest=Aura is a much better example, the guitar lines truly weaving out of each other beautifully, very psychedelic and emotive. One song, Chaos, is a nine minute song built out feedback, while the closing instrumental, Film, is just a jawdropper - one of the most powerful pieces of music ever. Hologram of Baal is similarly brilliant, the sounds they make with the guitars are amazing, but the melodies are beautiful in a similar way to Starfish. >That is a beautiful description! Rothery's solo on Easter is amazing. >His solo on "Dry Land" is another one of my favorites. I'd also pick Heart Of Lothian, White Russian and the second solo in This Strange Engine (heartbreaking!) >I'm not familiar with Kevin or this band. Please tell me more. My Bloody Valentine's last album, Loveless (1991), represented both the pinnacle of shoegazer music, and also what could be done with guitar. Layers and layers and layers and layers and layers of guitar intermesh and mingle, both beautiful and deafening. I think one reviewer described it as floating down a river of molten lava. Then, suddenly, one beautiful, clear hook will burst out of the noise and enrapture you. I consider it an essential guitar album. >Again, unfamiliar. The Chameleons were a powerful but atmospheric post punk band during the eighties. Sort of like the mid-point between The Cure, Echo And The Bunnymen and U2, but better than all three IMHO. Early on they're signature style was to juxtapose a harsh, cyclical low riff with layered, beautiful, atmospheric guitar lines, but as they went on they became both more atmospheric and accessible, until on their third and last album, Strange Times you get long, beautiful epics like Caution, and a song like Swamp Thing, which has four different sections, all of them powerfully catchy and eerily beautiful. They sort of foresaw dream-pop while retaining their post-punk energy. Also they had a really good knowledge of how to use atmospheric keyboards subtlely and effectively. >I have seen mention of them here on Ecto (possibly by you). Again, >please tell me more. The main discussion earlier about Kitchens of Distinction was over the fact that the singer, Patrick, happens to be gay; a thread which surprised me because by far the most distinctive aspect of this band was their sound. I suppose you could say they were the midpoint between The Smiths and My Bloody Valentine, although they are actually most similar to The Chameleons! Plus hints of The Church. With all those links you can see why I love them. They could write a perfect pop song (see The Third Time We Opened The Capsule, Prize, When In Heaven, Smiling) and then layer it with so many shriekingly echoey guitars that it was eventually left up to the bass lines to carry the tune. They were also capable of brilliant long songs like Gone World Gone and Mad As Snow which would deconstruct their sound and put it back together again. I strongly recommend their third album, The Death Of Cool. >I watched her performance on "Hard Rock Live" on >VH1. For some reason, it made me nervous to watch and listen to her. I >read a line from a critic that said something like "Ani DiFranco's >singing and playing is like guerilla warfare". Actually not all of her songs are like that. Many are beautiful, slow ballads, played with as much delicacy as anyone else. Perhaps if you heard some of those (and they work so well in concert), you'd be able to get into her more. >On your synth question, I listened to the song "This Strange Engine". I >also listened to "Just For The Record" off of CAS. "White Russian" >doesn't have any of the same type of playing. "White Russian" does have >one of those awesome Rothery solos though! :-) Sorry, I meant Just For The Record, not White Russian! >Both "This Strange Engine" and "Just For The Record" have the same type >of synth solo and the same type of synth sound. "Incommunicado" also has >that same synth sound. They sound like classic mini Moog solos to my >ears. Hopefully a keyboard player here on Ecto can help to confirm this >for us. Yeah, I thought it was a moog, but I couldn't be sure. >I get the feeling that Martin Orford was very much influenced by Tony >Banks. So yes, I think that his approach is similar to Tony Banks' >keyboard approach. It is interesting to me that Banks started as a piano >player. However, he is well versed on other keyboards as well. He plays >the organ, mellotron and syhthesizers equally as well as piano. I was just thinking of the keyboard work in Firth Of Fifth (discounting the prominent piano part), and how much that is similar to Orford's work on the first album. >"Radiation" is a very modern sounding recording. I have read that some >of the band members are really into Radiohead. "Radiation" seems a bit >of a departure, but I like it a lot. Musically some of the subtlety is gone I think, as they play either *really* loud, or *really* soft, and also the emotional pieces are quite stripped back (and hence no beautiful keyboard solos really) but I really really like the album. It has so many new facets that its like looking at an inverted picture of the earlier music. Besides, it's a definite improvement on This Strange Engine IMHO. >Fish is a creatively potent and clever wordsmith. I too highly admire >his lyrics. They can be difficult to listen to at times though. Some of >his lyrics from the Marillion days were very dark and bitter. >Hogarth/Helmer write some beautiful lyrics that may be simple, but as >you say they can also be very effective. I believe that lyrics in >"Easter", "Season's End", "Dry Land" and "Estonia" are all very >beautiful. I find his lyrics especially on Fugazi to be very over-the-top, but then Clutching At Straws is such a beautifully introspective, understated album (with a *very* dark theme!) that all is naturally forgiven. I've found his solo work to be generally lyrically inferior in this regard. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:23:36 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: re : guitarists On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Paul Kim wrote: > About Ani DiFranco's finger wailings...I'm pretty sure that she attaches > press-on nails to her fingers and reinforces them with black electrical > tape, and these are the "picks" that she uses to get her most distinctive > sound. For some reason, this made me think of another unsung guitar great who I haven't seen mentioned here... Lindsey Buckingham. Very eclectic style, and never uses a pick, which always astounds me considering the sounds he gets out of his guitar. Michael C. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Bass Guitarists , and a question about live music at home... On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Robert Lovejoy wrote: > Aimee Mann's work with 'til tuesday was also very solid. Man, I thought Aimee Mann was a killer bass player (and I play bass myself, and was always inspired by her.) She had that funky slap bass going really well, and I was incredibly disappointed when she stopped playing it (After/during the second 'til tuesday album). She played that bass like it was just an extension of herself and I was blown away every time (and there were lots) I saw her live. Michael n.p. The Superjesus - Sumo - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:41:10 -0500 From: dave Subject: Re: Vital social issues 'n stuff with Kelly jfrancis wrote: > The time when Kelly Bundy went to Hollywood to tape her own TV show, the chick > who played the guitar in the shows' band.......yeah... her. If memory serves the band was 'Joanie and the Slashettes', Joanie being played by Kari Wuhrer who it appears now has a CD out, which you can find out about at: http://starbuzz.net/KariWuhrer/ Not to be confused with the time Christina Applegate (Kelly) was in a band called 'The Permanent Waves' (later known as 'The Swinging Corporate Raiders') on Family Ties or the band from Joanie Loves Chachi, although Christina was also on Charles in Charge with Scott Baio (Chaci)... oh.. my head's starting to hurt... Don't ask me how I know these things.... - -- +-----------------------------------------------------+ + dave + + irc.dal.net #Panic_Beach female music artist chat + + http://magpage.com/~sspan/ music clips/pics/links + +-----------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:58:03 -0600 From: "Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" Subject: RE: Guitarists Rory Block Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:35:32 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Jenn Vix at: www.rollingstone.com Jenn Vix has a video (via Real Player) available at Rolling stone's video site. It looks kinda interesting from what I could tell over my modem. If you're wondering who Jenn Vix is, she has an entry on The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music. - --Neile >From: UMMCO1@aol.com >Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:11:25 EST >To: neile@sff.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Jenn Vix at: www.rollingstone.com > >The Top 11 Music Videos at www.rollingstone.com -- Video On Demand > >www.rollingstone.com/sections/vtheater/text/topten.asp?afl=rsn > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:03:10 -0500 From: John J Henshon Subject: Guitarists To add to Ms Meth's list I'd need to cite Mila Drumke, Merrie Amsterberg & Sharon Isbin. I was surprised not to see anyone mention John McLaughlin. If someone had, excuse my oversight. Elliott Sharp, Fred Frith, Arto Lindsay and Bill Frisell also come to mind on the less than Ecto side. Who was that gut from "Hee Haw" ? Can't remember his name. Larry Coryell and John Scofield in the elevator jazz category. Tommy Tedesco is a giant in the session man category. I also liked Steve Caton's work with Tori. Chris Cunningham, Greg Anderson and James Emory also get my vote. Frank (Saint Francis, Patron Saint of Electric Guitarists) Zappa, A.K.A. The Holy Father, was mentioned prominently but his able assistant Steve Vai may have been overlooked. Django Reinhardt ! Jeez, there's just so many. The Kings alone, John, Albert, B.B. Enough, my brain hurts, later. John ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 99 18:01:11 +0000 From: iflin@sirius.com Subject: catchin up. i am out of the loop, but just checked my email at work, and thought i would commment on favorite guitarist/bassists. most have been listed before, but i have to reiterate. (why not beat the dead horse?) guitarists: KRISTIN HERSH . brilliant guitar work. listen to HOUSE TORNADO. angular guitar riffs, with circular intricate "female" orientated guitar progressions (KRISTIN's words not mine). self taught too. JOHNNY MARR . screw MORRISSEY. JOHNNY MARR was THE SMITHS. KEVIN SHIELDS . the ENYA of alt rock? i dunno, he's brilliant, but he needs to learn self control. he's been overdubbing his guitar work since his last release LOVELESS (1991) for a new album. that's eight years of overdubbing. and no new release is in sight. i'm scared. though, it'll probably never be released. maybe post-humorously. PJ HARVEY . *sigh* she abandoned her guitar to play singer for FLOOD's industrial production. DRY and RID OF ME are gorgeous and raw, and listening to 4 TRACK DEMOS, you can tell how PJH uses her guitar as an extension of herself. technically, she may not be at the same level as the others on this list, but she gets ranked because of the way she is able to emotively use said instrument. ANI DIFRANCO . its all about the energy. bassists: SARA LEE . ubiquitous brilliant "mistress of the low end" (says ANI DIFRANCO) she should be on everyone's list. LESLIE LANGSTON . made me want to pick up the bass. check out HOUSE TORNADO again. if listening to it for KRISTIN HERSH's guitar work isn't enough. it was a sad day when she decided she didn't want to be in THROWING MUSES anymore. anyone know what she is up to? KIM DEAL . sure she's great on the guitar. but she made THE PIXIES for me. listen to GIGANTIC. AIMEE MANN . love her solo work but her basslines for 'TIL TUESDAY were utterly faboo. and finally as a twist, here are artists that i love DESPITE the fact that they are NOT great guitarists: LOIS . love her music, but lets face it, she only knows four chords. LIZ PHAIR . great lyrics, catchy tunes, diary-like confessional songs that i can identify with. but her guitar work sounds like second generation BARBARA MANNING. who isn't all that great either, but at least is willing to forge her own path musically. granted LIZ's latest WHITECHOCALATESPACEEGG was a vast improvement musically for her. JULIANA HATFIELD . BED was great. confrontational, bitter and full of spunk, most of JULIANA's work is catchy accessible. but JULIANA has been quoted as saying "there are no good female guitarists, it's just not in their genes" sorry, maybe that's just you describing yourself. KELLEY DEAL . KIM's sister, second guitarist for the BREEDERS and then her own band KD6000. what she lacks in talent, she certainly makes up for in moxy. and that is about all i can think about now. i am sure i will come up with more later to pester you. happy chinese new year by the way. irvin ps. hye michael, do you ever think straight? :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: guitarists/bassists Hi! Just catching up on this weekend's ecto digests and having fun reading the guitar/bass posts. Most of my favorites were mentioned, but as far as bass players go, I think it's interesting that people mentioned Kevin Bartlett as a guitarist, but not as a bassist. I absolutely love his bass playing, and I actually would rather see him playing bass than guitar. Anyone else out there love the bass in Collective Heart as much as I do? Warpaint (the song)? I guess his style of playing just really appeals to me. Another bassist whose playing is right up my alley is the Bay Area's Dan Rathbun who's played in a number of bands, most recently Charming Hostess (mentioned here by Valerie Kraemer a while back). I can't stop listening to their album, Eat. As far as guitarists, pretty much if your name is Steve, you're on my list: Steve Hackett--packs the most emotional punch and has a sound I love Steve Howe--the thing that's so great about him (and Hackett) is that his acoustic music is just as great as his electric. Just don't let either of them sing! Steve Morse--technically brilliant as well as beautifully melodic Steve Vai--a bit of a wanker, but also really melodic when he wants to be I also love Fripp and Belew, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page (more for acoustic stuff), and Joe Tinari, my guitar teacher! Back to work, Tamar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:59:27 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Fwd: Sixpence None The Richer and Nettwerk Management... Given the discussion about Sixpence None The Richer not too long ago, I thought this might be of interest to some (even thought parts of it have already been seen here)... >Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:30:12 -0800 >To: Recipient List Suppressed:; >From: Nettwerk Productions >Subject: Sixpence None The Richer and Nettwerk Management... > >Hey everyone... > >Nettwerk Management, who handle such diverse artists as Sarah McLachlan, >the Barenaked Ladies, Moist and The Devlins, have recently picked up the >option for management of the U.S. group SIXPENCE NONE THE RICHER! Welcome >to the family! > >For those of you unfamiliar with the group and their music, one of their >songs appears in the film SHE'S ALL THAT, which just opened recently in >theatres across North America. You might recognize the tune 'Kiss Me' that >has appeared in ads for the film, as well as in the film itself, if you've >seen it. The song appears on their latest self-titled album, and the new >video for "Kiss Me," which features SHE'S ALL THAT stars Freddie Prinze >Jr. and Rachael Leigh Cook, is currently airing on music video stations >across North America. > >For a chance to see the band perform, tune into the new Donny & Marie >Osmond show today (February 16th) for a chance to see them play live! For >more info on their appearance on the show, and airing details (which vary >across North America), go to this location: > >http://www.spe.sony.com/tv/shows/donnyandmarie/watchus/watch_us.html > >Or check your local TV listings for further details... > >Also recently confirmed for the band is an appearance on the U.S. morning >show 'Regis & Kathie Lee' on *Friday, March 5th*. Check your local >listings in March for further details. > >Sixpence None the Richer also have an official web site, which offers info >on the bands touring, various promo radio appearances, sound files and >more, and which can be found at this location: > http://www.sixpence-ntr.com/ > >Details of any special appearances, news, and touring can also be found on >both the Nettwerk and Nettmanagement web sites... > > thanks for reading! > > > > > > >Armand S. >Internet Services >Nettwerk Productions >info@nettwerk.com > > �*� Nettwerk Managed Artists �*� > >Sarah McLachlan, Tara MacLean, The Barenaked Ladies, Moist, The Devlins, >Mudgirl. > > http://www.nettmanagement.com > nettmanagement@nettwerk.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:51:07 -0500 From: "Tom Ditto" Subject: re: Falwell outs Tinky Winky Charley wrote >As I learned a while back on the same Web site, Po is not saying "Faggot, faggot." He's saying "fidit, fidit," which is--get this--British-accented Cantonese babytalk for "faster, faster." He says this sometimes when he's riding his scooter.< Charley is referring to the Feedback on http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/teletubbies/tubbies.html which reads under Q&A: - ---------------------- Q: Why does Po speak Cantonese? Teletubbies is for all children, many of whom grow up speaking = more than one language. Po can speak Cantonese and enjoys using this = language as well as English. Po sometimes sings this song when she rides = her scooter."Fi-dit, Fi-dit, Fi-dit" (fast) "Mar, Man, man!" (slow). = They are English transcriptions of Cantonese. Po sometimes counts in = Cantonese. "Ya, yi, sam, sae, mmm" (1,2,3, etc) - ------------------------- This seemingly unbelievable explanation is corroborated in a published = pre-contraversy Teletubbies book which Mrs. Ditto produced for me to = enjoy which is about Po riding her scooter. Indeed, the spelling is = "Fi-dit, Fi-dit." It all seemed like a terrible misunderstanding until = this morning. I was entertaining DeWey with the 8:30 AM showing of his = favorite show. The episode featured a magic flag which Po picked up and = waved while mumbling " Fag! Fag!"=20 I'll keep an eye on the BBC Q&A and see if this is actually the word = "Flag" pronounced with a British Cantonese accent. It is true that a = Chinese speaker finds it hard to pronounce the letter "L", but this = might simply be a clever cover to subvert our children and turn them = into raging homosexuals.=20 Charley wants to know what the Disney boycott has to do with = Teletubbies. It seems that Disney allows an annual gathering of gays inside their = theme parks. For this violation of the mores of a certain group that = includes the Reverend Falwell, a general boycott of all Disney products = and properties has been declared. I want to applaud the sentiment of = shoving it to the Disney corporation, but as T.S. Eliot wrote, "The last = temptation is the greatest treason, to do the right thing for the wrong = reason." If the politically correct side of Disney and Po is amusing to you, I = suspect your funny bone will be further tickled tonight (Bluesday) when = Falwell is a scheduled guest on _Politically Correct_ , a satirical = talking heads program that follows _Night Line_ on most of ABC network = television stations in the States. Tom ditto@taconic.net "Do you copy? Over..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:52:27 EST From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: re : guitarists In a message dated 2/16/99 7:36:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, colford@noblenet.org writes: << For some reason, this made me think of another unsung guitar great who I haven't seen mentioned here... Lindsey Buckingham. Very eclectic style, and never uses a pick, which always astounds me considering the sounds he gets out of his guitar. >> he has to be seen live to be really appreciated as the excellent musician he is ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:04:54 -0500 From: Richard Subject: Northampton & the Iron Horse I know this is pretty late to be posting this but I'm wondering if anyone here knows what, if anything, is happening at the Iron Horse in Northampton MA tomorrow and Thursday night- I'm driving my daughter down for a looksee and interview at Hampshire College and have the evenings to waste as I see fit... I know Susan Werner is playing Friday night and it's just KILLING me that I have to be back in Maine Friday afternoon and am missing her by a matter of hours. Wah. Thanks in advance........ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:34:31 -0500 From: meredith Subject: stretch princess and free cds Hi! Heard that Stretch Princess song on Felicity tonight (yes, I watch it, it's on after Buffy and there's nothing else on then, shut up ;). I would've put money on it being the Sundays. I know there was some talk about them here recently, but my brain is a sieve lately and I just poked around in the recent archives and couldn't find anything ... if anyone would care to reiterate in private e-mail, I'd appreciate it. In the back of last week's New Yorker is an ad for the EveryCD club, which is running an offer which states that if they don't have a CD you name, you get 2 free CDs. Now, I know clubs aren't all that great, but if ectophiles can't come up with a CD this thing might not have, nobody can. ;) Just want to make everyone aware of it in case someone can take this opportunity to cash in. (Hint: I'm not interested in the free CD's, but I was able to stump it with Mila Drumke and Rachael Sage.) To those looking for Happy's back catalog: everycd.com has everything listed, though I'm not sure what's in stock. FWIW. Back to that scintillating story on the evening news about a dog chiropractor, +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:25:40 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse Hi! Richard inquired: >I know this is pretty late to be posting this but I'm wondering if >anyone here knows what, if anything, is happening at the Iron Horse in >Northampton MA tomorrow and Thursday night- According to Musi-Cal there's nothing tomorrow night (though someone who has an actual Iron Horse calendar might know more), but on Thursday there's "Balfa Toujours with Christine Balfa". I know nothing at all about them/her. The description says "acoustic, cajun, folk, original, traditional, world". Whatever that means. When you get into town, grab a copy of the Valley Advocate, the free weekly newspaper which, if it runs on the same schedule as the New Haven Advocate will come out on Wednesday afternoon. That'll have the full listings in it. There are other venues in Noho, such as the Fire & Water Cafe, Pearl St., and the Calvin Theater. Hope this helps! >I'm driving my daughter >down for a looksee and interview at Hampshire College and have the >evenings to waste as I see fit... I know Susan Werner is playing Friday >night and it's just KILLING me that I have to be back in Maine Friday >afternoon and am missing her by a matter of hours. Wah. Wah, indeed. That rather sucks. :( If it makes you feel any better, I can't make it to see Susan at the Iron Horse on Friday night either... it's killing me too. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:41:55 -0600 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse At 11:25 PM 2/16/99 -0500, you wrote: >Richard inquired: > >>I know this is pretty late to be posting this but I'm wondering if >>anyone here knows what, if anything, is happening at the Iron Horse in >>Northampton MA tomorrow and Thursday night- there's an Iron Horse website: http://www.masslive.com/ironhorse/index2.html and the schedule page says: 2/16: Southside Johnny (Unplugged) 7:00 PM $16.00 2/17: Danilo Perez and Patricia Barber 7:00 PM $18.00 2/18: Balfa Toujours 7:00 PM $8.00 Regards, Carolyn Andre - ------------------- Chicago, IL / USA | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet candre@enteract.com | Carolyn's House of Music: http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:43:57 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse At 11:25 PM 2/16/99 -0500, meredith wrote: >Richard inquired: > >>I know this is pretty late to be posting this but I'm wondering if >>anyone here knows what, if anything, is happening at the Iron Horse in >>Northampton MA tomorrow and Thursday night- > >According to Musi-Cal there's nothing tomorrow night (though someone >who has an actual Iron Horse calendar might know more), but on >Thursday there's "Balfa Toujours with Christine Balfa". I know nothing >at all about them/her. The description says "acoustic, cajun, folk, >original, traditional, world". Whatever that means. I have said calender, and Balfra Toujours is apparently a band led by Christine Balfra, "daughter of the late, legendary Dewey Balfra, who helped redefine Cajun music starting in the mid '60s." The description also includes a blurd from the New York Times about how she follows "boldly and proudly" in her father's footsteps, so I think it's safe to say it's probably a Cajun band. As for tomorrow at the Iron Horse, according to the calender (and to the presumably updated listing at www.masslive.com/ironhorse/ ) it's Danilo Perez and Patricia Barber. The description is a bit confusing, because it calls them "two remarkable young jazz pianists," and then, after talking about how Perez "mixes the the complexity of Thelonius Monk with the vitality of Latin jazz," it goes on to describe Barber as combining "Cassandra Wilson's spare stylings with k.d. Lang's suave gender play," which at first glance seems more like a description of a singer than a pianist. Anyway, that's what's going on at the Iron Horse. Mike nr: nothing np: also nothing | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@smoe.org | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:04:54 -0500 From: "Kevin B. Pease" Subject: Re: Northampton & the Iron Horse Hi Rich, try http://www.masslive.com/ironhorse They have the most up-to-date listing I've seen for the Iron Horse. Here's what they have for the next couple days: 2/16/99 Southside Johnny (Unplugged) 7:00 P.M. $16.00 2/17/99 Danilo Perez and Patricia Barber 7:00 P.M. $18.00 2/18/99 Balfa Toujours 7:00 P.M. $8.00 2/19/99 Susan Werner 7:00 P.M. $15.00 The masslive web site also has some other listings for venues in the northampton area, too. Kevin - ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard To: Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 11:04 PM Subject: Northampton & the Iron Horse >I know this is pretty late to be posting this but I'm wondering if >anyone here knows what, if anything, is happening at the Iron Horse in >Northampton MA tomorrow and Thursday night- I'm driving my daughter >down for a looksee and interview at Hampshire College and have the >evenings to waste as I see fit... I know Susan Werner is playing Friday >night and it's just KILLING me that I have to be back in Maine Friday >afternoon and am missing her by a matter of hours. Wah. > >Thanks in advance........ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:31:22 -0600 (CST) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: re: dog chiropracter Meth, did they explain how the dog retracts its claws so as not to bruise the patient? nr: Lord Of The Fantastic: Stories in Honor of Roger Zelazny KrW "Yes, it left a great gaping hole in the water!" ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #58 *************************