From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #396 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, November 10 1998 Volume 04 : Number 396 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Joy Eden Harrison [mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner)] Imogen Heap @ Tin Angel ? [rich.rapp@effem.com] Re: Imogen Heap @ Tin Angel ? [Jeff Wasilko ] Rachel Sage video on the web [Jeff Wasilko ] Susan Court News [Neile Graham ] The Nudes - Goodbye ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) [Jeff Wasilko ] Ectophiles' Guide update [Neile Graham ] Penelope Houston News!! [Neile Graham ] Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) [Silme@ix.netcom.com] Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) [rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmey] Please tell me it ain't so [Neile Graham ] Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) [Ofer Inbar ] Re: Farewell June Rich [Silme@ix.netcom.com] Re: MWABT et al [Neile Graham ] Re: a wee bit more milla info and his name is alive [Neile Graham ] Sorry! [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:42:16 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) Subject: Joy Eden Harrison I decided to take advantage of Alans and Joys offer to receive her next work early. I decided this not even hearing what she has done. This is one excellent tape. Although the first two listens it didn't quite grow on me, the third and subsequent listens made me a Joy fan. If you like your ecto-fare jazz-tinged, then you will like Joy. I so like this work that I'm going to try to find her previous release, which is called - I think - _Angel Town_. I think I can say that if you like Holly Cole, you will like Joy Eden Harrison. Matt Bittner np: computer fan, once again nr: _The Hobbit_, JRR Tolkien ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:11:16 -0500 From: rich.rapp@effem.com Subject: Imogen Heap @ Tin Angel ? From Drew.... >>>>> Imogen Heap's got a bunch of scattered shows coming up. If you can, make *SURE* you catch one. You won't be disappointed... 12/03/98 Philadelphia PA Tin Angel <<<<<< I checked both Imogen Heap's website (which confirms what Drew said) and the Tin Angel website which list The Phila Music Conference on Dec 3rd. The Phila., Music Conference is featuring: Rebecca Martin (Once Blue), Michelle Nagy, Jane Kelly Williams, and Larry John McNally, all for $7.00. I had just seen Michelle Nagy open for Annie Haslam last month and she is worth the price of admission alone. Jane Kelly Williams I saw many times, and then it seemed as though she disappeared for 2 years. Anybody heard anything?? Rebecca Martin (of Once Blue), I must confess although I saw ads for "Once Blue" playing the Phila area many times, I have no clue what they're about..... Same for Larry John McNally. Rich Rapp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:23:16 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Imogen Heap @ Tin Angel ? On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 08:11:16AM -0500, rich.rapp@effem.com wrote: > I checked both Imogen Heap's website (which confirms what Drew said) and > the Tin Angel website which list The Phila Music Conference on Dec 3rd. The > Phila., Music Conference is featuring: Rebecca Martin (Once Blue), Michelle > Nagy, Jane Kelly Williams, and Larry John McNally, all for $7.00. > > I had just seen Michelle Nagy open for Annie Haslam last month and she is > worth the price of admission alone. Jane Kelly Williams I saw many times, > and then it seemed as though she disappeared for 2 years. Anybody heard > anything?? Rebecca Martin (of Once Blue), I must confess although I saw > ads for "Once Blue" playing the Phila area many times, I have no clue what > they're about..... Same for Larry John McNally. > Rich Rapp I saw Jane Kelly Williams a few weeks ago at a house concert, and she said she's working on a new CD. As far Once Blue goes, there's a RealVideo clip of their video up at http://musictv.com/onceblue.html There's also a site about Rebecca at: http://members.aol.com/Undcover/rebecca.htm - -jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:25:46 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Rachel Sage video on the web There are 2 live videos of Rachel at http://musictv.com/sage.html - -jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:02:10 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Susan Court News For those interested. - --Neile >Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) >X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.1mach (Enhance 2.1) >From: Susan Court >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 00:19:02 -0800 >To: susancourtnews@fundeling.com >Subject: Mountain-fresh Susan Court >Reply-To: susan@fundeling.com >X-Url: http://www.omnigroup.com/People/delirium/ > > >Hello, all! Now that there seems to be enough actual news to report, here >it is... the first-ever mailing list missive from the admin desk of >Fundeling >Productions, home of Seattle musician Susan Court. Hey, if I could take 5 >years to make a CD, why not be consistent and keep the mailing list in the >same turtley spirit? If you don't know or remember how you ended up here >and >don't care, stay on. If you wish to discontinue this crazy (but infrequent >and minimally intrusive) ride, I'll own up to my mistake and take you off >the >list. Similarly, please forward this to any potentially interested parties. > >* * * * * > >A quick catch-up on what's been happening since I released my debut folk/pop >"High Relief" CD this past summer: > >* Squeezed past all those big label A&R ponytails to get airplay on >Seattle's KMTT 103.7 FM, The Mountain! "Blight & Bonny" was featured on >Kelly Wright's 8am to noon Sunday Brunch show yesterday, and will be in >frequent rotation on the show. Will slowly expand target station list from >here. > >* Preparing material, old and new, for live solo shows in town... gig dates >coming soon! > >* Selling CD on my website at www.fundeling.com, and other online retailers >Minstrel Music (m2n.com) and Twee Kitten Records (www.tweekitten.com) > >* Have branched out sales to local retailers including Ruby Records on >Roosevelt, Tower on Mercer and The Ave, and Cellophane Square on Broadway >and >The Ave > >* Among the reviews slowly trickling in, finally got that holy grail of a >review in The Rocket (current issue) which features the quote "...when she >delves into the personal,... it is pure magic." >http://208.1.62.2/Rocketbam.fm$RETRIEVE?value=6584&field=serial&html=detail > >* Review plus track "Blight & Bonny" included on compilation CD of upcoming >premier issue of Lorelei, a wonderful ad-free magazine devoted to women in >music. Please check out their website at >http://home.earthlink.net/~loreleimusic/about.html > >----------------- > >As always, your continued support is needed and much appreciated! If you're >in the Seattle area, please call KMTT at 206-233-8984 to request that they >play my stuff. > >Thanks again and until next time, don't eat the antifreeze. > >-Susan and a postscript: > > I really must needs mention: > > One of the earlier cool things that happened with the CD was that I got > national satellite airplay for two tracks, "Parrish Blue" and "High Relief," > on Muzak's Adult Album Alternative satellite channel. > > Thanks again to all of you amazingly helpful, supportive (and forgiving?...) > people. Time for bed now. > >-Susan > > >"Ectophilic" pop from Seattle: Bring it into _High Relief_! >Susan Court susan@fundeling.com http://www.fundeling.com >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:06:09 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: The Nudes - Goodbye Ectophiles may remember this band as the opening act for Happy at the Bottom Line in NYC in August 1996. I've kept up with them, I just received a postcard stating that they will be "discontinuing performing as The Nudes" in Spring of '99. The card lists a few dates in NY, CT and VA this month. Their web page lists a few others: http:/www.nudesmusic.com. They've always been an enjoyable live act and I'm sorry to see them stopping - hoping this is a temporary situation. Anyway, I thought some of you on this list might want to know. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:29:49 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 01:06:09PM -0500, Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: > Ectophiles may remember this band as the opening act for Happy at the Bottom > Line in NYC in August 1996. I've kept up with them, I just received a > postcard stating that they will be "discontinuing performing as The Nudes" > in Spring of '99. The card lists a few dates in NY, CT and VA this month. > Their web page lists a few others: http:/www.nudesmusic.com. They've always I was also saddened to read that June Rich is breaking up. - -j ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:37:20 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Ectophiles' Guide update Hey, everyone-- Just wanted to send an update about The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music, which has, yes, once again been updated. Damon has added some cool new graphics to the navigation bar, and has also added a randomizer, which can take you exploring through the Guide to see about artists you might not otherwise have thought of browsing. Additionally, he has set it up so commentators can have bio pages. So if you have comments included on the Guide, you can email a bio to be included onsite. In the bio you can talk about pretty much anything, but it would be especially great to include brief comments about your musical tastes and favourite artists. You can include HTML coding, including links to your own homepages if you'd like. Send any bio to us at ectoguide@smoe.org or to me directly. New/recent files: casino ashtrays, , clara . thomas, Kim Fox, Grey Eye Glances (thanks Andrew), Emm Gryner (thanks Jessica), Hex, Katell Keineg, Lush (thanks Juha), Alison Moyet (thanks Steve), and Throwing Muses. Thanks again to everyone for allowing us to use your comments in The Guide! We get lots of compliments about The Guide's content. And anyone who wants to help write entries for their favourite artists, please let me know who and I'll send you the template--it's pretty easy. Or if you just want to volunteer to help edit files as we're working on them (the Bs now) that would be great. Also, if anyone finds dead offsite links in the "See also" sections, and of course if you find typos or errors of fact or want to update your old comments about an artist, please let me know! http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide Cheers! - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:04:16 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Penelope Houston News!! Ripped bleeding from alt.music.alternative.female. Apparently the new album, Tongue, is already out in Germany from WEA. Anyone there heard it yet? SF area people, I highly recommend seeing Penelope live! Apparently Mod Lang has copies of the German issue of Tongue. - --Neile alt.music.alternative.female #10254 (5 more) [1] From: Aytab [1] Avengers/Penelope Houston Live Date: Sun Nov 08 19:41:47 PST 1998 Organization: ICGNetcom Lines: 30 X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 08 7:41:50 PM PST 1998 X-Newsreader: NETCOMplete/4.0 The Avengers/Penelope Houston Web Site http://members.aol.com/aytab2/houston.html Hi Folks It's time for you to witness one and only Prison Brides! After a whirlwind tour of Germany we are bringing the well-honed and righteous sounds of PENELOPE HOUSTON AND THE PRISON BRIDES to Slims at Folsom and 11th streets in SF 415-522-0333 WEDNESDAY NOV. 11TH!!! 11:00 PM...SMITTY OPENS at 10:00 ONLY 5$!!! The band features one of the finest rockin' crews ever to stomp the boards in the Bay Area: Chuck "Butt Crusher" Prophet on Guitar Katharine "Wild Thang" Chase on Bass and Vocals Michael "Professor Kiwi" Papenburg on Guitar Stephanie "Spice Rack" Finch on Keyboards and Vocals and Steve "Bladder Boy" Bowman on Drumskins PENELOPE'S NEW CD "tongue" WILL COME OUT IN THE U.S. AROUND MARCH 23 1999 ON REPRISE RECORDS Live shows will be very rare so don't miss this chance to check out her new songs and band and pick up an import copy of the new CD or a tour T-shirt or Scum Cap!!! SPREAD THE WORD. SEE Y'ALL THERE!! xxx penelopeemailrobot - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:37:39 +0000 From: Silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > I was also saddened to read that June Rich is breaking up. > > -j What? Please post the details. They just played two dates in Boulder last August... I finally saw them here at home and not while visiting my mom in Philly... Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:49:44 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 04:37:39PM +0000, Silme@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > > > I was also saddened to read that June Rich is breaking up. > > > > -j > > What? Please post the details. They just played two dates in Boulder > last August... I finally saw them here at home and not while visiting > my mom in Philly... more than that, I don't know. I think I read it in the nields-nook list. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:12:23 -0600 From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Subject: Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) Jeff Wasilko writes: > On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 04:37:39PM +0000, Silme@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > > > > > I was also saddened to read that June Rich is breaking up. > > > > > > -j > > > > What? Please post the details. They just played two dates in Boulder > > last August... I finally saw them here at home and not while visiting > > my mom in Philly... > > more than that, I don't know. I think I read it in the > nields-nook list. The nook is where I recall seeing it as well - the only real info, though was their final dates. Must be something in the air as in the last month and a half, 3 of my local faves have also gone their own ways - Bella Wolf (1996-1998), Collaborateur (1991?-1998), and Elizabeth Einstein (1997-1998), RIP. Here's to hoping for new and equally interesting spinoffs. Oh - and Radio Iodine is apparently leaving for parts (to me at least) unknown, though still together. And as long as I'm here: for those keeping score, as of a month or so ago there was still no word on whether Kristeen Young's "all boy band" will be making the move with her (if/when she eventually does). On with the June Rich dates: - --------- Final Dates: November/December ~please call to confirm all dates~ Wed. 11/4,11& 25 -- The Grape St Pub Phila, PA This is the final June Rich Wednesday night residency! w/ Jim Boggia on the 11th 215/483/7084 Sat.11/7 -- Sommerville Theater Sommerville, MA Cool festival of female voices. Last Boston area show /advance tickets available 617/625/5700 Fri. 11/13 -- The Tin Angel Phila., PA The best listening room in the Northeast 8:00 & 11:00 shows 215/928/0770 Fri. 11/20 -- Champs Blacksburg, VA Thanks to Deep Freeze Promos. and everyone for showing us a good time! Sat. 11/21 -- The Grape St. Pub Phila, PA 215/483/7084 Fri. 11/27 -- The Bitter End NY,NY One of our favorite rooms in the country! 9:30 show 212/673/7030 Sat. 11/28 -- Temperance House Newtown, PA Thanks to George & Christine for bringing us back to the New Hope area 9:00 PM 215/860/0474 Sat. 12/12 -- The Logan House Wilm, DE One last time! Thanks to the staff & Rob for all your help. 10:30 PM 302/65-logan Fri. 12/18 -- The Tin Angel Phila, PA. Thank you Larry Goldfarb & DEE DEE. You're the Best! 8:00 &11:00 shows 215/928/0770 Sat. 12/19 -- The Bitter End NY, NY Thanks to all of our listeners, the Tucks and Ken Gorka 9:30 PM 212/673/7030 Thurs. 12/31 -- The Grape St Pub Phila., PA We shall say goodbye where we first said Hello. Advance tickets recommended! 215/483/7084 - --------- bob np. Eleanor McEvoy 9/6/96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:41:43 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Please tell me it ain't so I just saw Jewel's new video "Hands" from the upcoming album, _Spirit_. Please tell me that the album isn't going to be like that track. Please. It's a pretty little song, nicely produced and presented like a caramel apple. Sappy outside. There may be something good for you in there (perhaps you might get a glimpse of that through the preachy, didactic lyrics--ugh!) but Jewel's direct honesty coated in sugar is sickly sweet and the apple underneath is tasteless and maybe even a little rotten because of the overpowering coating. And you get the feeling it's just for kids. What a stupid metaphor, but I'm trying to describe the experience of watching and listening to this. The video is even worse--there has been some kind of disaster which involves collapsed buildings but nothing so messy as a fire or flood. I'm guessing an earthquake. They're digging people out. There's Jewel lit like an angel (with a new very last year tangly hairstyle) floating through this darkness singing about how she has hands that can help while she's moving past people who are actually helping. She even lifts up a board and there's a man underneath! Follows rescuers who break down a door and there are children covering in the flashlight! She smiles as them beatifically and floats on, singing about how much she can do with her hands and the song ends with how we are God's hands, we are God's voice. I don't know about you, but I found that in itself a telling metaphor of the experience of listening to her. There's something going on under the surface but she's floating over it, not really involved. There are flashes of promise that she might actually _do_ something, but she just smiles and drifts away. If I were a rescue worker I'd tell her to get the hell outta the way. I know a lot of people, masses of them probably, will love this. I don't. It makes me sick. I never did like caramel apples except when I was a kid, and even then I liked the idea of them better than the reality. The apples underneath were always disappointing. - --Neile n.p. Kristin Hersh, _Murder Mayhew and Good Night_ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:53:01 -0500 (EST) From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Re: The Nudes - Goodbye (also, June Rich) Jeff Wasilko > On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 04:37:39PM +0000, Silme@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > > I was also saddened to read that June Rich is breaking up. > > > > What? Please post the details. They just played two dates in Boulder > > last August... I finally saw them here at home and not while visiting > > my mom in Philly... > > more than that, I don't know. I think I read it in the > nields-nook list. June Rich was one of 8 performers at a concert I went to this Saturday. Both the promoter/MC, when introducing them, and then the band, when they were on stage, announced that they're breaking up soon. They did not say why, or go into any great detail about it. -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@polyamory.org http://www.leftbank.com/CosWeb/ -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ Washington, DC: A city known for its Southern efficiency and Northern charm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:22:53 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Farewell June Rich I got this in the mail a week or so and meant to post it, but never did. Not really any more info than we've had here already. >Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:49:41 -0800 >From: June Rich >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Neal Copperman >Subject: Re: mailings >So, All Good Things Must Come To An End. June Rich has decided to go >their separate ways. Thank you for all of your endless support these >last four years. We will keep you informed on each member of the band >and their future projects. For now, come on down for one last dance >with JR. Thank you all again and we hope to see you soon! -Jackie, >Vanida, Kevin, Garry, & Allen. > ~please call to confirm all dates~ >Tues. 10/20 Brownies 23 East Ardmore, PA > Tuesday night music club w/ Jim Boggia 610/649/8389 >Wed. 10/21 The Sterling Hotel Allentown,PA > Great beer! Great room! 610/433/3480 >Fri. 10/23 The Grape St Pub Phila.,PA >Sat. 10/24 The Logan House Wilm., DE > Hot new menu a must try! 302/65-logan >Wed. 10/28 The 8th Street Lounge Phila, PA > First time here in this retro room 215/925/1900 >Wed. 11/4,11& 25 The Grape St Pub Phila, PA > This is the final June Rich Wednesday night residency! w/ Jim Boggia > on the 11th 215/483/7084 >Sat. 11/7 Sommerville Theater Sommerville, MA > Cool festival of female voices. Last Boston area show /advance > tickets available 617/625/5700 >Fri. 11/13 The Tin Angel Phila., PA > The best listening room in the Northeast 8:00 & 11:00 shows > 215/928/0770 >Fri. 11/20 Champs Blacksburg, VA > Thanks to Deep Freeze Promos. and everyone for showing us a good time! >Sat. 11/21 The Grape St. Pub Phila, P >Fri. 11/27 The Bitter End NY,NY > One of our favorite rooms in the country! 9:30 show 212/673/7030 >Sat. 11/28 Temperance House Newtown, PA > Thanks to George & Christine for bringing us back to the New Hope area > 9:00 PM 215/860/0474 >Sat. 12/12 The Logan House Wilm, DE > One last time! Thanks to the staff & Rob for all your help. > 10:30 PM 302/65-logan >Fri. 12/18 The Tin Angel Phila, PA > Thank you Larry Goldfarb & DEE DEE. You’re the Best! > 8:00 &11:00 shows 215/928/0770 >Sat. 12/19 The Bitter End NY, NY > Thanks to all of our listeners, the Tucks and Ken Gorka > 9:30 PM 212/673/7030 >Thurs. 12/31 The Grape St Pub Phila., PA > We shall say goodbye where we first said Hello. Advance tickets > recommended! 215/483/7084 > > Let's party like it's 1999! Philly, there's no place like home, an >endless thanks to U ps. Vanida Gail of June Rich is opening for susan >Werner at The Birchmere on Friday, November 6th (703-579-7500) > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:32:49 +0000 From: Silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Farewell June Rich I'm so sorry to hear about this break up. I spoke with um, either their publicist or manager when the band was in Boulder. She said that WXPN didn't particularly like the new cd, so they weren't even receiving much support from that radio station. In other words: not much radio airplay in their own city. It's interesting to note that Vanida's opening as a solo act for Susan Werner. I was wondering if Vanida and Jackie would come back to Crested Butte to regroup. Ellen, who's sorry she's going to miss those last dates -- I don't get into Philly until Dec. 20th and I leave on the 30th. *sigh* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:47:33 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: MWABT et al Hi Carol-- Another comment I'll be swiping for The Ectophiles' Guide unless you object. Please let me know if you do. Thanks! - --Neile At 7:27 PM -0700 8/24/98, C. K. Coney wrote: >Tim Cook wrote: > >> I managed to pick up my copy of MWABT in Dupont Circle in DC (Melody >> Records?). I haven't had a chance to listen to it much yet as I've been >> constantly playing Bic Runga's new CD, Drive which is really really >> excellent. > >Well, I've been constantly playing Happy's cd, and I only played >Rasputina's new >release one time. And their cd is excellent...better than their first! But >Happy's is sooo much better. Both cd's will definitely be on my Best of >'98 list! > >> On a completely different topic, I was having a meal with Valerie the other >> day and we both agreed there's a striking resemblance between Happy and >>Paula >> Jones!! >> > >Wait, do you mean Paula Jones of Clinton scandal fame? If so, I don't get >it at >all. I've never seen Happy in the flesh, but from the photos in Terra I. and >cd's, etc...I think there is no resemblance whatsoever. Maybe you mean >some other >Paula...do you have the correct last name? > >Carol > >n.p. Rhodes I (wanted to go back to the beginning for a bit) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:53:17 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: a wee bit more milla info and his name is alive Hi Carol-- Another comment I'll be swiping for The Ectophiles' Guide unless you object. Please let me know if you do. Thanks! - --Neile At 3:43 PM -0700 8/27/98, C. K. Coney wrote: >irvin lin wrote: > >> and also i was wondering, all you HIS NAME IS ALIVE fans, do you >>have >> information about the new album (which is available as an import)? is >> it in the same vein as STARS ON ESP or is it more like his earlier >> experimental stuff. also will it be available states-side? anyone >> anyone? >> > >I'm an HNIA fan! The new lp is Fort Lake, and it is import only right now. >U.S. release is imminent, but sorry, I forget the date right now. >Fort Lake is quite good, but the new singer Loveeta is more of a soul >stylist/r & b singer (she was heard a bit on ESP)...Karin is also on it >but more of a supporting role. I'd say folks are 50-50 on it. It's still >got that trademark Warn stamp on it...a bit zany, not like anything >else on the planet. I do like it, but my faves are the older stuff >(although ESP is the most fun by far!) > >You may want to sub to the Livonia mailing list at aol.com. > >Also, are you hip to Trey Many's band, Velour 100? I really like >them...they feature 3 female lead singers incl. Karin, all excellent. "Of >Color >Bright", their latest, is especially wonderful. For info you may want to >email Trey at Velour100@aol.com...and get on email list. They're >touring right now too, and you can get the schedule from Trey. > >Have fun! > >Carol - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:52:50 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: MWABT (and Btc) Hi Carol-- Another comment I'll be swiping for The Ectophiles' Guide unless you object. Please let me know if you do. Thanks! - --Neile At 10:54 AM -0700 8/27/98, C. K. Coney wrote: >Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > >> Listen again, listen again! > >I've *been* listening...should I change my frame of mind, my frame of >reference, just >what am I doing wrong when I listen to "Roy"? I'm being serious here...I >want to try >to hear what you hear. Please clue me in on specific element(s) that >attract you so >much. I do want to like this song, 'cause I think the rest of the album >kicks major >ass! (Excuse my crassness!) > >> When I first heard the sample that Samson posted a month+ ago, I actually >> *worried*, very briefly, about what I would think of the new album. > >Why, specifically? Not meaning to dissect the song, but you obviously >didn't have a >good first impression. Now you like (love?) the song...I'm curious about >how your >listening evolved. > >> On first listen, I found "Roy" to be the least interesting song on the >> album, and I suppose it stayed as such for my first several times >> through...'til one day when I caught myself singing the chorus. > >Yeah, but didn't Vickie say that the song goes through her head, like a >virus? Me, I >admit it's gone through my addled brain as well, but so has every song on >that cd, >'cause I play it daily. And I don't listen to radio...only my satellite >dish stations. >So...I don't have any other music playing enuf these days to get engorged >in my head & >replayed there. > >> Also note that the song has lyrics that *aren't* printed -- the heavily >> distorted stuff after the call-and-response voice and violin section, before >> the violin solo. "I'm afraid to close my eyes." Wow. > >I'll listen for that element. > >> *My* only quibble with the song is the grammatical error --"four short >> years does not a life time make." > >Could you 'splain what ya mean? > >> Am I the only one who's reminded of the end of "Walk Straight Down the >>Middle" >> by Happys "bird call" during the call-and-response section? > >Hmmm...interesting. I don't get it myself. > >> > Frankly I think it was a mistake to make Roy >> > the single...who is the intended audience for this song? You can't >>dance to >> > it...too many tempo changes that leave folks standing, awkward, on the >>dance >> > floor. >> >> I, too, wonder who the intended audience is, though I think that "Roy" >> was a good choice in that it *does* have a _killer_ hook. > >And it's very "poppy", and oh, forgive me, but I'm going to say it, it has >"commercial >potential". > >> > And after all, the music business *is* a >> > business, and if an artist doesnt sell "X" amount of units, they may >>not get >> > that contract renewed (or bettered.) >> >> Perhaps, but Samson *did* sign a _five_ record deal with Happy. ;-) > >Yes, tis a comforting thought...and a nice commitment they made to our >gal, eh?! > >> (which is not to say they couldn't break it if they really wanted to; look >> at so many other artists who've gotten screwed by the squid) > >Squid? > >> > All are much more danceable than Roy. >> > (Many hit songs are broken by d.j.'s and at dance clubs these days.) >> >> I have trouble imagining that *anyone* wants to try to make Happy a >> dance club diva. > >Hey, what's wrong with dancing? It's great exercise! And furthermore, club >hits have a >way of bringing an artist to prominence...which translates into selling >units. I >wasn't suggesting Happy become a dance club diva...it's kinda funny to >imagine, >however. ;-) But...I think she successfully crosses into several genres on >the new cd, >and all those genres are places to market her newest work. "Leaving no >stone unturned" > >> I'll claim "Tragic" because I just can't get "I see you because you are >> tragic / and I need you for the same" out of my head. > >I like that song too...but can you 'splain to me why it clips suddenly at >the end? >There are so many places to fade gracefully/naturally out, yet the song >kinda drags at >the end. I'd like it so much better if it was about 8 seconds shorter, and not >clipped. (Or is that some kind of audio castration, or circumcision, >metaphor? Maybe >something's happening conceptually that I just don't "get".) > >> Though >> "Looking Over Cliffs", with "Anywhere you go / here or beyond / >> nothing can stop me from finding what dream you're on" (er, did >> I get that right?) is a *real* close contender. That verse just >> flips me out, both lyrically and in its delivery. > >Yes! That works so well on both levels. I don't think I've ever heard such >raspy, >growly passion in Happy's voice before. Anyone else? > >> Honestly, I'm not all that crazy about "Glory" or "Collective Heart." > >"Collective Heart" isn't one of my faves either, melodically...but the >lyrics are very >"feel good" and empowering, though, and that's sure a good thing. > >> The songs that work best for me on BtC are "Just Like Tivoli", first >> and foremost, and then probably "Down, Down" and "You Never Told Me." > >"You Never Told Me" is another one of my faves from BtC...it expresses >something very >important and can be used effectively after an argument with your spouse! >(Don't ask!) >:-) > >> Y'know, all this talk about MWABT means I should probably pull it out next. > >Yeah, play it after Klezmatics! (Oh, I just love that title "Jews with >Horns"! :-) > >> jeff >> np: _Jews With Horns_ / Klezmatics >> >> -- >> |Jeffrey C. Burka | moving to jburka@cqi.com -- come say hi | >> |http://www.cqi.com/~jburka | at the new digs...now up and running! | - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:14:38 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Sorry! Hi, all-- Sorry for the EctoGuide request to Carol that came through to ecto. I thought I'd gotten rid of all the cc's but I'm sleepy and didn't doublecheck as I try to. Anyway, sorry for the annoying waste of bandwidth. Three times. Sheesh. Time for sleep. - --Neile n.p. Kim Fox again. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #396 **************************