From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #371 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, October 18 1998 Volume 04 : Number 371 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Saddest Song You Know [Faerymouse@aol.com] grieving song [J Wermont ] Saddest Songs/Happiest Songs [Suzanne Cerquone ] re: the saddest song you know ["Tom Ditto" ] Hair of the kitty [Paul Blair ] Re: Happy songs (was saddest song) [Mark Lowry ] Saddest song [Hillary Jackson ] Re: Saddest Song [samsamiam@juno.com (Sami T.)] Sessions tonight plus [kerry white ] Players: Get Terre Roche's new CD FREE! [Alundra Madusa Blayze Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Kim Klouda (no Email address) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Anthony Amato Sat October 20 1973 Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tara MacLean Thu October 25 1973 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Neil K. Thu November 14 1968 Grocible Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:04:22 EDT From: Faerymouse@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:23:04PM -0700, C. K. Coney wrote: > What is the saddest song you know? "Dante's Prayer" - Loreena McKennitt "You Had Time" - Ani DiFranco "Goodbye Sweet Pumpkinhead" - Jane Siberry and the theme to Edward Scissorhands by Danny Elfman. Love Siobhan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: J Wermont Subject: grieving song > I wrote a pretty damn sad song for my mother right after she died > but I am not releasing it for another week or two. Oh, that reminds me of a song about a woman who's just lost her mother - and that one does sometimes make me cry: "Slow Burn" by Robin Greenstein. Here's one verse, plus the chorus: "I guess that's what happens when people die They leave you and you don't know the reason why You're left alone to mourn and cry These tears are burning holes in my eyes They're hot on my face, it's a slow burn Slow burn Think I'm gonna be up awhile tonight Slow burn All the memories are burning bright Slow burn I think it's going to be a long, long time Before these lights have flickered out..." Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:55:30 -0500 From: Suzanne Cerquone Subject: Saddest Songs/Happiest Songs Somebody's previous pick was Jefferson Airplane's "Comin' Back to Me." I agree, but I actually think the Rickie Lee Jones version is even sadder. The way she murmurs throughout most of the song, as if she's so depressed she can't even sing strongly (or even that she's in a major drug/alcohol haze to drown out the pain)---it gets me every time. For the obligatory Kate sad song: "All the Love." Tim mentioned Marillion's "Out of this World." Oh yeah. And also "Hollow Man." Sarah's "Hold On" (Freedom Sessions version) Toni Child's "Death" "Tell Her You Saw Me" by Pat Metheny "If I Could" by October Project *Now let's turn this around and mention fave happy songs before I slit my wrists!!* Ones I can think off the top of my head: "These Swaying Arms" by Deacon Blue "Big Sky" by KaTe "My Bird Performs" by XTC and Holly Cole's "I Can See Clearly Now" ~Suzanne <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The Web North America web site: http://alabanza.com/lothian/ e-mail inquiries: webna@aol.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:43:20 -0400 From: "Tom Ditto" Subject: re: the saddest song you know Seems like a singular has been turned into a plural for most contributors to this thread. Goes to show how music plays a significant role in our grieving. Of course, the musicians are also dependent upon the release created by their music. By externalizing their grief, they can somewhat avoid its worst effects. It's great therapy. That regrettable cliche about having to suffer in order to create a work of art may be born from the apparent relationship between grief and production. It's an exorcism. Some years ago I learned that my high school heart throb had taken her own life. I hadn't seen her for 20 years, but those attachments are far down on the brain stem and never erase. I took Happy's "Suicide Song" and made a little laser animation to go with it. It was a great relief to me. I showed the piece at a class reunion some years later, and a classmate who had seen her right before the suicide burst into tears, thanking me later for helping trigger a long suppressed reaction. Surely someone will help us now with the death of Matthew Shepard. Jim Henson, where are you when we need you? ;-) Tom ditto@taconic.net "Do you copy? Over" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:19:18 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Hair of the kitty Last night's Mila Drumke show was just what I needed to recover from my post-Happy hangover. I had gone out with some friends for dinner and arrived at 10:35, by which time Mila was only in the middle of her second song. The place was packed like sardines all the way to the back, though after a song or two the people who had come based only on the *Time Out* piece and who had decided she wasn't for them started leaving, making it a bit less crowded. The set included -- I forget the exact order, sorry: [missed the first song] Someone Motorboat The Irish Sea Worlds Away Lullaby the new song she played before the summer -- forget if it has a name or what it is Constance Under the Ivy (encore) It was a pretty short set, maybe 45 minutes. For being as crowded as it was, the audience was pretty undemonstrative, and almost didn't give Mila an excuse to get back up and do "Under the Ivy." The amount of conversation over the music also got annoying at times. The band--Lyris, Elissa, Mark--was in fine form, even though they hadn't done a show for months, and Mila and Elissa were sporting new "tattoos" which seemed like they might have been done hastily in magic marker :-) No all-new songs at this show, though Mila said something about new songs coming up at the Mercury Lounge show. I got a few words in with Mila after the show and learned that on Valentine's Day she plans to do another show like the one she did at the Ciel Rouge this year. Get those tickets early or you may not be make it in! - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:30:52 -0500 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Re: Happy songs (was saddest song) Happy songs I like: Have to start off with a Happy song, so, how about "Hold Me" or "If I Ever See the Girl Again" "Rubberband Girl" - KaTe "Let's Go Crazy" - The Artist Who at That Time Was Known as Prince "Happy Phantom" - Tori "Here Comes Your Man" - Pixies "Shiny Happy People" - REM "Girlfiend in a Coma" - The Smiths Mark n.p. single for "Across the Universe" - Fiona Apple (from "Pleasantville") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:26:52 -0400 From: Hillary Jackson Subject: Saddest song OK, I'm actually responding to a thread. I didn't know I had it in me. Some of my favorite saddest: (and I only really like the sad ones; hey, I was raised on Jacques Brel!) Well to start, speaking of Jacques Brel: "My Death" My death waits in your arms, your thighs Your cool fingers will close my eyes Let's laugh for us and the passing time "Old Folks": They tremble as they watch old silver clock When day is through It tick-tocks oh so slow It says yes, it says no It says, I'll wait for you. The old, old silver clock. That's hanging on the wall That waits for us all (think he was a little obsessed?) More Brel: "Alone" "I Loved" "The Desperate Ones" "Fanette" Well GOD, the whole Album of ".. Alive and Well." OK, moving on, some others: "Morning Song for Sally" by Jerry Jeff Walker (It's on Nanci Griffith's Other Voices, Other Rooms.) "Love's Found A Shoulder," by Nanci Griffith. (On "Last of the True Believers") And an odd one that I discovered on an old Joan Baez tape that I have since lost: "Love Song to a Stranger." But really, two of the saddest songs I know are not recorded yet: "Seven Cold Glories" by Susan McKeown and "Clumbsy" by Veda Hille (The "fuck in the kitchen" song) Oh, and Susan's "Albatross" is right up there too! hillary ====================================== Hillary Jackson 468 Sixth Avenue #4 New York, NY 10011 212.675.9629 212.645.0298 (fax) hillaryj@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:27:25 -0700 From: samsamiam@juno.com (Sami T.) Subject: Re: Saddest Song >>Saddest song I know is the theme to Somewhere in Time the Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour film. It's always the one that breaks me up.<< That's my favorite love-song in the whole world. I hope someday if I get married, to play it as a recessional after the ceremony. I suppose it just depends which way you listen to it if you think it's sad or heavenly romantic. By the way, it's Rachmaninov's 18th overture from Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini. I once taped this short piece (approx. 3 minutes) over and over and over on a 90 minute tape. It was the most wonderful tape I think I've ever made! ~Sami~ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "...reality is the leading cause of stress among those in touch with it. I can take it in small doses, but as a lifestyle I found it too confusing." --from "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe" by Jane Wagner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:07:43 -0500 (CDT) From: kerry white Subject: Sessions tonight plus Hi, Tonight's Sessions on PBS:John Hiatt and Imani Coppola. Oct 24th : Medski, Martin & Wood and Holly Cole. Oct 31st is not on our schedule, monster movies are. Not sure about other PBS affiliates. bye, Kerry R White ............................... ............................. zzkwhite@washburn.edu KTWU PBS TV kerrywhite@webtv.net Topeka KS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:37:49 -0700 From: Alundra Madusa Blayze Subject: Players: Get Terre Roche's new CD FREE! Yo 'philes, Here's an opportunity for the players among us to be awarded a copy of Terre Roche's upcoming smash CD _The Sound of a Tree Falling_ for nary a song! Check out Terre's main page at this url: http://www.roches.com/terre/index.html -then go on down to the bottom of that page for a special offer from Terre: Anyone who sends her a tape of them- selves playing the title cut will be sent a copy of her new CD once it's released. Are you copying, METH? I _know_ you've been waiting for this moment! And hey, you are quite welcome. :-) Larry (alundra@olypen.com), wishing I could read music! np: _I Wanna Be Kate_ tribute CD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:56:29 -0700 From: Alundra Madusa Blayze Subject: Correction Re: Terre Roche free CD OOPS- Hey, I just got a new job today, and I've been celebrating a bit, so I guess I'm a little off... :-) After you click on this url: http://www.roches.com/terre/index.html ------ go to the left and click on 'Score and Tabs'-that'll get you to the free offer... Sorry for the confusion, Meth. Larry (alundra@olypen.com) ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #371 **************************