From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #348 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, September 28 1998 Volume 04 : Number 348 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Anam & Miranda Sex Garden news (quite LONG) [Yves Denneulin ] Re: Some exciting news ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] WXRV? [ken@isis.ST.3Com.COM (Ken Descoteaux)] Re: WXRV? ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: WXRV? [Michael Colford ] Re: area [larnep@pathfinder.com] Re: Some exciting news ["jeffrey c. burka" ] thought of you... [stunning@tezcat.com] TORI ON TV ????? [FAMarcus@aol.com] MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! [Old Spice ] ...a partial forward....Music from Ladyslipper! [Riphug@aol.com] Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! [Riphug@aol.com] scrappy bitches and more [Steve VanDevender ] Tori on Roseanne ? [jjh969@juno.com] Betty Carter.... [jjh969@juno.com] Re: Some exciting news [jjh969@juno.com] Re: Tori on Roseanne ? ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Re: 54-40 ["Michael P. Hayes" ] Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: area and future Tori album [Jerene Waite ] Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! [Old Spice ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:20:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Anam & Miranda Sex Garden news (quite LONG) Hi there, Here are some infos on Anam and Miranda Sex Garden. The only connection between the two is that I received the two messages at the same time :-). To make it short, Aimee Leonard is leaving Anam ;-(. I would appreciate any informations on the new singer, her name doesn't sound familiar to me. This means that the last chance to see Aimee with Anam is to catch the current tour (in the UK, the Netherlands and Belgium). I hope to be able to see them on the last date of the tour in Dranouter but now that I am leaving 800kms away it will be quite difficult. We'll see. Anam News: ANAM E-MAIL OUT # 1 www.sonicstate.com/anam/ Welcome to Anam's first e-mail out! Firstly, we'd like to thank you all for your support over the past year. '98 has been our busiest year to date with regards to touring, promotion and rehearsing. We have met some wonderful people and seen beautiful places on our journeys. It began with a whirlwind round-the-world trip to Switzerland, America, Australia, New Zealand and Japan and continued with tours in Taiwan, Japan (again), Canada and a return visit to the States. After that very hectic schedule Anam took a well-deserved break over much of the summer. We did, however, manage to squeeze in a few festivals and were to be seen performing at Sidmouth International Folk Festival in England, The Edinburgh International Fringe Festival in Scotland and Dranouter Festival in Belgium. Anam will be doing a Riptide tour in England and Wales in October and November. See dates at the end of this e-mail. We will also play 6 dates in The Netherlands and Belgium, including the Zwolle Festival in Holland. We look forward to playing to you all in the future. If you have any queries regarding tours, concerts or workshops please contact: anam@dial.pipex.com ANAM LINE-UP CHANGE Earlier this year Aimée Leonard announced her intention to retire from Anam at the end of 1998. She does plan to continue singing, teaching and playing music. For details of her workshops she can be contacted at: 100332.2277@compuserve.com The band will sorely miss Aimée and we wish her all the best in the new direction her career is taking. The Riptide tour in Oct./Nov. will be one of the last opportunities to see Aimée perform live with Anam. In her stead Anam will be joined in January 1999 by Fiona Mackenzie, a Gaelic singer/bodhrán player from the Isle of Lewis and Anna-Wendy Stevenson, a fiddle player from Edinburgh. We will keep you informed of progress by future mailouts. MERCHANDISE NEWS During the summer Anam signed a distribution deal with UK based Direct Distribution for their first two albums, Anam (1994) and Saoirse (1995). These are now available in most major UK records shops along with First Footing and Riptide (JVC). They were recorded on Anam's own record label, Ceirníní Anam, Direct Distribution can be contacted at 0171-281 3465. Any queries regarding Anam merchandise (c.d.'s, cassettes, t-shirts, etc.) should made to: anam@dial.pipex.com RIPTIDE TOUR OCT./NOV. 1998 Oct 1 Birmingham M.A.C. 0121-440 3838 Oct 2 Norwich Assembly House 01603-660 352 Oct 3 West Chiltington Village Hall 01798-812 661 Oct 6 Worksop Regal Centre 01909-482 896 Oct 9 Wimbourne Allendale Centre 01202-730 111 Oct 10 Tavistock Wharf Arts Centre 01822-613 928 Oct 11 London Purcell Rooms, Sth Bank 0171-960 4242 Oct 12 Nettlebed The Village Club 01628-636 620 Oct 15 Windsor Windsor Arts 01753-859 336 Oct 16 Gloucester Guildhall 01452-505 089 Oct 17 Perranporth Lowenden Peran Celtic Fest. 01872-553 413 Oct 23 Newcastle Tyneside Irish Festival 0191-261 0384 Oct 25 Basingstoke Fairfield Arts 01256-321 621 Oct 26 Cambridge The Milkmaid 01954-260 354 Oct 27 Worcester Huntington Hall 01905-611 427 Oct 28 Taunton Brewhouse Theatre 01823-283 244 Oct 29 Pontardawe Arts Centre 01792-863 722 Oct 30 Gainsborough Trinity Arts Centre 01427-810 710 Oct 31 Bury The Met 0161-761 2216 Nov 4 Buith Wells Wyeside Arts 01982-552 555 Nov 5 Congleton Town Hall 01782-514 896 Nov 7 Canterbury Gulbenkian Theatre 01227-769 075 Nov 8 Lichfield The Guildhall 01543-262 223 Nov 18 Leeuwarden, NL Theatre Romein 058-215 57 83 Nov 19 Groningen, NL Huize Maas 050-573 32 27 Nov 20 Hardenberg, NL Theatre 'De Voorvegther' 052-326 51 13 Nov 21 Zwolle, NL Folkfestival Zwolle 038-421 48 00 Nov 23 Dranouter, Bel. Den Esker 057-444 379 Miranda Sex Garden news: MSG NEWS UPDATE OF 21/9/98. - --------------------------- Welcome to more news from the world of the Mirandas! Miranda Sex Garden. Nothing is happening at the moment with regards to writing new material or live gigs. Katharine, Ben and Trevor are still too busy with their other projects. The plan to release a new album with material recorded on the Scandinavian tour earlier in the year is still very much alive though, and let me take this opportunity to thank everyone who's been writing to show their interest in the project. Do keep the mails coming if you'd like to buy a new album and you haven't already told us. There are still quite a few things to be sorted out, but at least the recordings are now finally in London and Miranda Sex Garden will be reviewing them to decide if the quality is good enough. If not then some new studio recordings could probably be arranged. The set lists varied a lot between gigs and it is possible that the album could contain only previously unreleased material. I should emphasise that no final decision has been made yet, so keep your fingers crossed. If the album does get released, it will be an independent release and it will initially be available through mail order only from this Web site. The Naked Goat. Trevor Sharpe has left the Naked Goat, but Ben is still there and the band recently recorded a number of tracks, one of which is planned to appear on a compilation CD released by The Torture Garden, a famous London fetish club. No details are available so far regarding the availability of this CD. Expect more gigs soon. The Servant. The Servant, consisting of former Minty members Trevor Sharpe (drums), Dan Black (vocals) and Matt Fisher (bass), has been signed to a major independent record label. No details can be revealed yet, but the guys have just left for Wales, where they'll be spending a month recording. The Mediaeval Baebes. The girls have finished recording their second album which is due for a worldwide release soon from Virgin Records. The album features more instrumentation than the first one, including drumming by Trevor Sharpe and is generally more adventurous than the debut. The Baebes recently left for the States to do a short promotion tour and they will be playing more gigs in the UK when they return. The new MB pages on Forever Burning are under development and you'll be seeing lots more Baebes stuff once they're on-line. Forever Burning. Yours truly will be away for the next 10 days, so there will be a delay in dealing with mail for a little while. The URL for Forever Burning will change in October. People on the mailing list will be notified in advance. There is also a new e-mail address to write to. It is now casper1@mdx.ac.uk Please don't send any more mail to cn034@mdx.ac.uk Sunshine *(:-) Casper - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This news update was brought to you by "Forever Burning", the official Miranda Sex Garden pages on the Internet. http://www.mdx.ac.uk/~cn034/miranda.html e-mail: casper1@mdx.ac.uk - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best, - -- Yves Denneulin Campus Universitaire LMC/IMAG, Institut Fourier, BP 53X Yves.Denneulin@imag.fr 100 Rue des Mathematiques Tel: (33) 4 76 51 46 68 38041 GRENOBLE CEDEX 9 Fax: (33) 4 76 51 48 46/ 04 76 63 12 63 FRANCE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:04:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Colford Subject: Some exciting news So, I had to share this very exciting news with people who I knew would really appreciate it. The radio station I listen to, WXRV, The River, out of Haverhill, MA, has been running a contest where they give a getaway trip to see an artist. The first such contest was last week where they were giving away a weekend in New Orleans to see Tori Amos. Now I figured, if I ever win a contest, this would be a good one. I love Tori, although I've stopped trying to see her live because she's so popular, and New Orleans is my favorite city in the U.S. Anyway, all you had to do was fax or e-mail your name and daytime phone number to the station to win. So I did. AND I WON! Friday afternoon they called and told me that I won. I leave Friday, October 9 and have dinner that night at Paul Prudhomme's restaurant. Then Saturday night is Tori's concert, and Sunday we fly back. Needless to say, I am pretty excited. Now here's hoping New Orleans survives Hurrican Georges. It sounds like it will according to this morning's news reports. I've got my fingers crossed. Michael n.p. Martha & the Muffinc - Then Again n.r. California Screaming by Doug Guinan (almost done!) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:17:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Some exciting news On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Michael Colford wrote: > I love Tori, although I've stopped trying to see her live because > she's so popular, and New Orleans is my favorite city in the U.S. > Anyway, all you had to do was fax or e-mail your name and daytime > phone number to the station to win. So I did. AND I WON! Friday Woohoo! Congratulations! n.p. Jocelyn Montgomery: Lux Vivens (Ya know, when I read here the description of the album as David Lynch producing Hildegard von Bingen, I thought it was being said as a metaphor -- but no, that's what it really is! And it's Wonderful! Thanks to whoever mentioned it...) n.r. Ian Stewart: Nature's Numbers - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 98 10:19:27 EDT From: ken@isis.ST.3Com.COM (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: WXRV? Sometimes I'm just a little too fast on the delete key... Mike Colford (?) in Reading, MA congratulations on your good fortune! I can't feel jealous since that date conflicts with my schedule anyway ;^) Anyway, I was wondering what the frequency of that station (WXRV?) was? I wonder if I can receive it out in the Metrowest area. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:26:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: WXRV? On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Ken Descoteaux wrote: > Anyway, I was wondering what the frequency of that station (WXRV?) was? A rarity: someone named Ken asks someone *else* "What's the Frequency?" :-) (I've been listening to either too much REM or too much Dan Rather... or maybe it's just Monday...) - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: WXRV? On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Ken Descoteaux wrote: > Mike Colford (?) in Reading, MA congratulations on your good > fortune! I can't feel jealous since that date conflicts with my > schedule anyway ;^) > > Anyway, I was wondering what the frequency of that station (WXRV?) was? > I wonder if I can receive it out in the Metrowest area. Not sure of the range, but you'll find it at 92.5 FM. This week they're giving away a trip to San Francisco, but I'm not sure who the concert is going to be Michael - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: larnep@pathfinder.com Subject: Re: area Neal Copperman wrote: > "While albums by The Cocteau Twins, This MOrtal Coil and black tape for a > blue girl helped define the genre of "ethereal" music, other groups > refined the sound and added their own unique touchs." > > Ah yes, that is 3 bands I always list together as being vital to the genre > :) Who writes the stuff in the Projekt catalog again? Probably Sam, who coincidentally founded Black Tape for a Blue Girl... > BTW, is there anything else in the catalog that I should consider ordering > besides these two discs? There's quite a bit from Projekt that I like, though it tends to be stuff I have to be in the right mood for. I have a number of discs from Love Spirals Downwards, BTfaBG and Lycia, and there's something to like about all of them, though I think Love Spirals Downwards is overall the strongest. Although I haven't gotten the "The Devil's Bris" yet, I *hugely* enjoyed Voltaire's set at this year's ProjektFest in NYC. I also liked BTfaBG and Lycia more live than I expected to, and I'm not sure if that means I need to pick up both their latest albums, or if they were just really good live. Anyway, my advice is pick up one of the Projekt samplers, which you may even be able to find in stores. - Larne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:03:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: Some exciting news > they give a getaway trip to see an artist. The first such contest > was last week where they were giving away a weekend in New Orleans > to see Tori Amos. Wow! How *totally* cool. Sounds like an absolute dream trip, and it's so cool that an ectophile won it! Have a wonderful time, and tell us *all* about it -- it's only fair that we get to enjoy your trip vicariously. Have a *fabulous* time.... jeff np: _When I Was A Boy_, Jane Siberry (I'd forgotten that Jane gives a nod to Betty in the liner notes...heh heh) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:00:22 -0600 From: stunning@tezcat.com Subject: thought of you... Godmother of Jazz Dead at 69 CNN ShowBiz Section Betty Carter, a Grammy-winning singer who worked with greats like Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie and later became known as the godmother of jazz for nurturing young musical talent, died at home Saturday of pancreatic cancer. She was 69. Clubs where she has played, including the Blue Note and Birdland in Manhattan, observed a moment of silence in her memory. Jazz singer Annie Ross said Carter was one of the last greats from a fading generation. "God, we'll miss her," she said. "She was a wonderfully inventive innovative singer. Who's left?" Carter was best known to fans for her signature singing style -- daring improvisations and unusual approaches to songs that included scat- singing around every tune and bouncing syncopations against every offbeat but the expected one. It's the style that helped catapult her 1960 duet with Ray Charles, "Baby It's Cold Outside," to a jazz classic. "The more you do a song the more you learn about the tune and your concept of the tune. Then I'm free; then I just go any way I want to go and can go with it musically," Carter once said in an Associated Press interview. Carter also was known as a nurturing but demanding godmother to successive jazz generations. She once said she tried to teach young musicians to respond to their audience and keep their music original. Her graduates included pianists John Hicks and Mulgrew Miller, bassists Buster Williams and Dave Holland, and drummers Jack DeJohnette and Lewis Nash. "She was like a mother to us all. She really made sure that not only in music ... but in life ... that we were going to be OK," said Eric Harland, one of the last drummers to play with Carter In 1993, Carter founded "Jazz Ahead," a music program that brings about 20 young musicians from across the country to New York every year during Spring Break. It is capped by a weekend of concerts. Carter was born Lillie Mae Jones in Flint, Michigan, on May 16, 1929. She grew up in Detroit, where she studied at the Detroit Conservatory of Music. When she was just 16, Carter was singing in jazz clubs with Parker, Gillespie, Miles Davis and Max Roach. She started singing professionally with Lionel Hampton's orchestra at age 18, and eventually adopted the stage name Betty Carter. In the 1950s, she moved to New York City, playing in small clubs and developing a reputation as one of the most promising young singers on the scene. In the late 1960s, she founded her own label, Bet-Car, which produced such classic recordings as the Grammy-nominated "The Audience with Betty Carter." Carter supported herself by releasing albums, touring and hitting the college circuit. In 1988, Verve offered her a contract, releasing the Grammy-winning "Look What I've Got" and reissuing her four earlier Bet-Car albums on CD. She won a Best female jazz vocalist Grammy award in 1988 and President Clinton gave her a National Medal of Arts award in 1997. She is survived by two sons, Myles and Kagle Redding. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:11:36 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: TORI ON TV ????? My daughter just told me that Tori was going to be on the Rosanne Barr show today at 3 on fox. Is this accurate???? I'd hate to wait around for something that was not going to happen. I got the chance to tape Tori the other night when they replayed her leno appearance. It was startling to hear how raw her voice had become. I'm still curious what the gameplan is for the people who are responsible for promoting Happy. Anyone out there know if there is a gameplan?? fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Old Spice Subject: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! Ohmygodohmygodohmygod-- Don't miss her. There was a time when I'd've considered going to Ireland to see her live--she's definitely one of my deities--but then she came to the U.S. for the first time a few years ago. Vickie and I simultaneously let go all our sphincters when we learned she'd be performing--twice in as many days--in that old backwater, Chicago. After the show, I took it upon myself to introduce Vickie to Mary and her manager as someone who played Mary's stuff on the radio. The manager offered Vickie an interview. Vickie said oh no I don't do interviews. I said would you excuse us just a moment and I dug my nails into Vickie's arm and pulled her into a dark corner and explained to her that yes, she did do interviews. Then I nudged her back over to where Mary and her manager were still standing, wondering what all _that_ was about, and Vickie said--after I poked her a couple times--Vickie said I mean, yes, I do do interviews. So the interview era of Vickie's show began. Thanks to Mary Coughlan. (Which is pronounced, by the way, Cocklin.) If you do see her, try to get a chance to say hi, and tell her Vickie and I said hi. - --charley - ---Markku Kolkka wrote: > > Hello, I delurk to ask the ecto-opinion on Mary Coughlan. She's > performing in my hometown next week, and I'd like to know if it's > likely to be worth the $15 ticket price. > > -- > Markku Kolkka > mk59200@cc.tut.fi _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:23:24 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: ...a partial forward....Music from Ladyslipper! ************Greetings from Ladyslipper!********** We've got something special for you this month -- our brand new fall catalog - -- and you can see it first on the web! This time around we're on-line even before we're in print, so high-tail it to the on-line catalog to get a first look at what's new. Our print catalog is being mailed at the beginning of October, so look for it by the middle of that month. If you think you're on our mailing list and you don't receive a catalog, please let us know so we can get you one as fast as possible. The holiday season is almost here! ************************************************************************* Our fall new releases include recordings by Laura Love, Sweet Honey in the Rock, Kay Gardner, Phranc, Anonymous 4, Christine Lavin, Women's Chorus of Dallas, Kate Clinton and many more. Just head to http://www.ladyslipper.org, then click on *Browse Catalog* and *New Releases*. The latest in Women's Music right at your fingertips! We're also adding 50 titles to our listen line and on-line sound. Most of these are up already, so start listening! The best way to know what you want is to hear it, and with Ladyslipper you don't have to drive to the mall and get a salesperson to unwrap it for you. ************************************************************************* These are good people......I've ordered from them and they've given me good service. Definitely worth subscribing to their hard-copy catalog. Jill :D *share the music!* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:29:54 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! In a message dated 9/28/98 2:26:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lissener@yahoo.com writes: << Vickie and I simultaneously let go all our sphincters when we learned she'd be performing--twice in as many days--in that old backwater, Chicago. >> Ewww! Thanks for the great visual, charley! Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve VanDevender Subject: scrappy bitches and more I'm glad Larry Greenfield posted the announcement for the Scrappy Bitch Tour just a few days before they came through Eugene. It was plenty of advance warning. The venue, Sam Bond's Garage, is pretty much what it sounds like: a remodeled garage that is now a pleasant little pub. I arrived a bit late, shortly after Oh Susanna's set had started. Although folky country isn't exactly my favorite genre, I was entertained by Oh Susanna -- partly because her songs were dark and moody. I wouldn't mind seeing her again live. Veda Hille was who I really came to see -- the discussion of her music on Ecto has been intriguing, and I even remember Neile mentioning her during my visit to Seattle in 1995. I was quite impressed by Veda, particularly the poetic quality of her lyrics. I'd definitely go see her again, and I was impressed enough to buy copies of _Spine_ and _This Is a Picture_ on the spot. I've made one pass through _Spine_ -- while not all of it grabbed me, there is some very good stuff on it. But the cover art is pretty disturbing. If someone had told me Kinnie Starr was more or less a rap artist, I might have fled screaming into the night (especially as I had to suffer through some really inept rappers that opened for Built to Spill a week before). But that wouldn't have done her justice; after my initial apprehension, I really came to like her. Her songs weren't the kind of toneless and repetitive stuff I perceive most rap music to be. She performed most of her poems and songs walking around among the audience, which gave a very intimate and personal feel to her set. It was also a hoot watching Veda and Susanna doing backing vocals for one of her songs; they were really having fun with it. The Scrappy Bitch tour shirt is pretty funny, but since it cost $20 I decided to spend my money on the Veda Hille CDs instead. If the tour is coming to your town I highly recommend it, especially since it's nearly three hours of quality music in inexpensive small venues. This next weekend Susan McKeown is coming to Eugene. I caught her surprise appearance last year, and I'm definitely going to be there for this show too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Subject: Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! I think he meant the frontal sphincters. Just a little water sports. - - B. On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 Riphug@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/28/98 2:26:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > lissener@yahoo.com writes: > > << Vickie and I simultaneously let go all our sphincters when we learned she'd > be > performing--twice in as many days--in that old backwater, Chicago. >> > > Ewww! Thanks for the great visual, charley! > > Jill :D > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:20:52 -0500 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Tori on Roseanne ? I tuned in on the hope it might be so. No luck, but she did have on Patti LaBelle and John "Pink Flamingos" Waters. Hadn't bothered to check out Roseanne's show previously, but let it run even Tori-less. Always thought John Waters was a hoot, even if as time goes by his outrageousness gets more and more watered down. John ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:13:00 -0500 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Betty Carter.... On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:00:22 -0600 stunning@tezcat.com writes: >Godmother of Jazz Dead at 69 >CNN ShowBiz Section >Betty Carter, a Grammy-winning singer who worked with greats like >Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie and later became known as the >godmother of jazz for nurturing young musical talent, died at home >Saturday of pancreatic cancer. Jeez... Bummer. The old school giants of jazz are dropping like flies. Only had the pleasure of seeing Betty live once way back on November 5 in 89' at the WFC. She could give Ella and Sarah (Vaughn not McL) a run for the money any day of the week. Had a chance to speak with her briefly after the show and aside from her extraordinary talent she struck me as being possessed of exceptional spirit and grace. If you aren't a big jazz fan but would like to check her out look for Hal Wilner's "Stay Awake" Various artists interpretations of the music of vintage Disney films. Other contributors were... Ken Nordine w/Bill Frisell & Wayne Horvitz. Natalie Merchant w/Michael Stipe, Mark Bingham & the Roches Los Lobos Bonnie Raitt w/Was (Not Was) Tom Waits Suzanne Vega Syd Straw Buster Poindexter and the Banshees of Blue Yma Sumac Aaron Neville Garth Hudson NRBQ The Replacements Sinead O'Connor Sun Ra and his Arkestra Harry Nilsson James Taylor & Ringo Starr John (who's bummed by the news) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:12:03 -0500 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Re: Some exciting news I'm green with envy. Congratulations !!!!!! Good thing it's next weekend, not tomorrow, leave the scuba gear home. I love the Crescent City. My moms retired down on the eastern shore of Mobile Bay and I always try to do a side trip over there whenever I pay her a visit. When I called her up at 11 last night I could hear the 110 mph winds whipping the pines over the wires. Three of my four brother who live nearby got called up by the National Guard and have been buzzing by the house every couple of hours in their Hummers' to check on her. Hope the levees hold so you'll be high and dry. New Orleans has a pissa aquarium a short sashay from the Quarter and if you've got time you might like to check it out. They've got a glass tunnel that goes through a huge tank teeming with the denizens of the deep. Sorry I didn't get to see it during the days when hallucinogens were more socially acceptable. There's a itty bitty little shop a down the street from Chez' Paul called "Le Petite Soldier Shop" (if it's still there) @ 528 Rue Royale that has a great collection of antique Tin Soldiers. They've got other miniatures as well, little gothic things and very cool ornate chess sets. The dinner engagement's quite a coupe as well, every time I've been in that neck of the woods I've been shut out, the line waiting for tables at Paul Prudhomme's place has been down the block and round the corner. No shortage of rippin places to chow down though. Wonder if Tori's show will have a Creole flavor ? Dixieland Jazz Bands, Cajun Cookin', Liquor sufficient to rot out the heartiest of livers, Hot Damn.... Enjoy ! Enjoy ! John ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: Tori on Roseanne ? On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 jjh969@juno.com wrote: > Always thought John Waters was a hoot, even if as time goes > by his outrageousness gets more and more watered down. But doesn't that just make it more subversive? I mean, sure, _Serial Mom_ was no _Pink Flamingoes_, but the fact that it had Kathleen Turner and the rest of its stellar cast made it more acceptable to the mainstream...and that was one *sick* movie (c'mon, just picture Kathleen waving around that fireplace poker with the liver attached!) jeff (very much looking forward to seeing _Pecker_) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:02:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael P. Hayes" Subject: Re: 54-40 On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Dave Williamson wrote: > Side note that the name 54.40 carries some interesting Canadian/American > history - derived from the American Manifest Destiny movement under US > President Polk to move the US border north to 54.40. Which makes me wonder if the band ever released, or considered releasing, an album simply titled "Or Fight!"... -- Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:37:24 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! Oooh, ooh, Charley reminded me to answer this. I hope it's not too late. At 10:57 AM 9/28/98 -0700, Old Spice wrote: >Ohmygodohmygodohmygod-- > >Don't miss her. There was a time when I'd've considered going to >Ireland to see her live--she's definitely one of my deities--but then >she came to the U.S. for the first time a few years ago. Vickie and I >simultaneously let go all our sphincters when we learned she'd be >performing--twice in as many days--in that old backwater, Chicago. Charley can speak for his own sphincter, not mine, but it is true that my reaction was akin to "Ohmygodohmygodohmygod" because I'd been a fan since her first album and couldn't believe that I was actually going to see the lady live. > After the show, I took it upon myself to introduce Vickie to Mary >and her manager as someone who played Mary's stuff on the radio. The >manager offered Vickie an interview. Vickie said oh no I don't do >interviews. I said would you excuse us just a moment and I dug my >nails into Vickie's arm and pulled her into a dark corner and >explained to her that yes, she did do interviews. Then I nudged her >back over to where Mary and her manager were still standing, wondering >what all _that_ was about, and Vickie said--after I poked her a couple >times--Vickie said I mean, yes, I do do interviews. This is pretty much true. I had done *telephone* interviews (Happy, Betsy Martin of Caterwaul, Karen Peris of The Innocence Mission) and in-studio interviews (Cathead, Ala from The Catherines/Smitten) but at that point had never done a live interview outside the studio. The night we first met she played a place called the Abbey Pub. The next night, she played a Celtic Fest out in the boonies somewhere. It was raining sheets and there were only a few hard-core folks there, but she and her band gave it their all. > So the interview era of Vickie's show began. Thanks to Mary > Coughlan. After Mary, Charley and I did a ton of interviews, including Jane Siberry, Kirsty MacColl and Heidi Berry. > (Which is pronounced, by the way, Cocklin.) Huh? No, it's Cog-lan, I'm pretty sure. > If you do see her, try to get a chance to say hi, and tell her > Vickie and I said hi. She would remember me as "The Bag Lady" :-). The next-to-last time she played Chicago, she played at my favorite venue, Schubas. The day before that, she performed at an in-store at Borders. Talking to her after the in-store, she complained about needing bags to carry crap in (her words, she's delightfully profane). She has 5 kids, and was doing a lot of shopping while in the states. She said that clothes were especially cheap here. Chris and I promised we'd bring some bags to her the next night. We had a bunch of them (gym bag type affairs), and brought her quite a few to choose from. She picked 4 or 5, plus a backpack that I didn't like, but that she seemed to fall in love with. (She must've said "it's fuckin' brilliant!" at least 10 times.) The last time she was here was for the Guinness Fleadh this summer. She was the first to perform and Chris and I made sure we got there early enough to see her. She was wonderful, as always, but we were thrilled when she recognized us sitting on the ground in front. She made a motion, miming putting on a backpack, and winked at us. She dedicated the next song to us and told the whole story about us giving her the bags! After her set, but before the next band (Capercaillie) she came out and found us. We stood talking for a while, and then she motioned us close. She pressed something into my hand and said that it was a thanks for the bags, but to keep it quiet. When she left we looked to see what she had given me, and there were 2 backstage passes! (Since the "backstage" consisted of a closed-off semi-circular area around the entire park grounds, we could move from one stage to the other quickly and easily, unlike the poor souls who had to maneuver among the tens of thousands of people also trying to maneuver from stage to stage. She did us such a wonderful favor. We probably could have met a lot of the artists, but we decided we didn't want to bother anybody. We did meet Dar Williams though, since we stood right behind the stage listening to her show and were right there when she came off.) >---Markku Kolkka wrote: >> >> Hello, I delurk to ask the ecto-opinion on Mary Coughlan. She's >> performing in my hometown next week, and I'd like to know if it's >> likely to be worth the $15 ticket price. Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. She's got an amazing voice (an Irish bluesy, what'd Charley say once? fuck-it-all-pour-me-another-drink voice) and a wicked sense of humor. She chooses eclectic, interesting songs to cover, and even if not every single one is my cup of tea, I could listen to her sing the phone book (even at an outdoor, daytime concert) and I'd be transported to a dark smoky bar. Mary's atmosphere, with a lot of working class class. Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:16:00 -0700 From: Jerene Waite Subject: Re: area and future Tori album Neal queried regarding the Projekt catalog and Area: > BTW, is there anything else in the catalog that I should consider ordering > besides these two discs? > I have and enjoy two of the Projekt compilations: Across this Gray Land (Vol. 2&3). One or both of these should give you enough exposure to the artists to know whether or not you would enjoy an entire album. I have both A Perfect Dream and Radio Caroline, the reissued recordings. I do love the softness of Area. And then, a quote from Tori: > "I want to make a live album before I need an oxygen machine next to the > piano." > Having just seen her San Diego concert, I am inclined to agree. I have always wondered about her heavy breathing. Is this a stylistic affectation or an unavoidable accompaniment to her vocal gymnastics? Most people I've asked think it's the former. I suspect she snores loudly. In the concert, her spoken voice was raspy and I thought she might need to clear her throat. What was amazing is the fact that her singing was impeccably pure and unrestrained. The woman can wail. Unfortunately, the band sound drowned out her voice and lyrics (?). (What lyrics? Is she singing in English?) I do like FCGH, but the recording is more instrumentally balanced than what I heard in the open air amphitheatre Saturday night. Tori and piano showcases her talents much better, IMO. The Waitress was the best with band. A live album of Tori concert exerpts would be a sure seller. She is one who does not sound the same live as her recordings. - --Jerene n.p. This Mortal Coil- It Will End in Tears n.r. The Last Three Minutes - Paul Davies (so I can plan my future) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:58:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Old Spice Subject: Re: MARY COUGHLAN! MARY COUGHLAN! - --Xenu's Sister wrote: > > (Which is pronounced, by the way, Cocklin.) > > Huh? No, it's Cog-lan, I'm pretty sure. The gh has to scrape the back of your throat, like Van Gogh pronounced by Dutch native. Gaelic has a few of those phlegm-loosening vowel/consonants, like German and Dutch and Yiddish. I don't know how to relay that clearly in American English, but Cocklin, with its hard ck, is closer, I think, to the way Mary pronounced her name than is Coglan. Cockhlin, maybe, is a little more evocative of her pronunciation. > Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. She's got an amazing voice (an Irish bluesy, > what'd Charley say once? fuck-it-all-pour-me-another-drink voice) I can't find the review I wrote, but that was close: I think I described her voice as bluesy and blowsy, and her philosophy of life as "Fuck it, have another drink." Which is why I'm still astonished to think of Joyce's referring to Mary's style as "female vocalist ballads." That's kind of like calling Billie Holliday a lounge singer, or calling Kate Bush a pop singer. Mary Coughlan could find the soul of any song; she could uncover emotional truths that the song's composer didn't even know were there. Holly Cole, at her best, in _Temptation_, only approaches the emotional solidity of Mary Coughlan's singing. (In my review of _Temptation_, which is in my lifetime top ten, by the way, I wroted that it _nearly_ achieves the level of a Mary Coughlan record.) Joyce, (that was you, wasn't it?)--if you get a chance, next time you need to dig out a good cry that you can't quite get to, turn off the lights, pour a big mug of red wine or a tumbler of warm whiskey, and let Mary show you what your soul is for. Markku, if you _don't_ go, please don't tell me. - --charley _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #348 **************************