From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #293 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, August 26 1998 Volume 04 : Number 293 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MWABT et al ["Valerie Nozick" ] Re: Happy's resemblances [Riphug@aol.com] Charming Hostess [Tamar Boursalian ] Happy Rhodes Review (fwd) [Carolyn Andre ] Happy Jones plus [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] MWABT redux [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] beth orton and SF [irvin lin ] a *bunch* of music related news (sarah, emm, fiona, etc!) [00jnweiser@bsu] playing songs over and over ["J." Wermont ] Re: playing songs over and over... and over, and over, and over, and over again! [les jums ] Veda Hille and Kinnie Starr in NYC [meredith ] Susan McKeown photo: Tompkins Sq. Park [Carolyn Andre ] Re: playing songs over and over [rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer)] Tori's early days, Wednesday AM VH1 ["Xenu's Sister" ] Tori's early days, Fri/Sat AM VH1 ["Xenu's Sister" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:21:01 -0400 From: "Valerie Nozick" Subject: Re: MWABT et al On 8/24/98, at 11:23 PM, jason and jill wrote: >> [re Happy looking like paula jones] >> >> > This is the most sickening thing I've ever seen in the pages >> > of Ecto. Happy looks *NOTHING* like the slutmeister. >> >> Hunh? *Jones* is the slut? Media whore, maybe; self-righteous >> right-wing prig with a personal and probable financial agenda, >> perhaps. But slutmeister? Let's be reasonable here. She >> didn't just get on national tv and admit an extramaterial >> affair... > >Yes, and that's not an accurate name at all for Jones considering she is >best known for, well, this isn't really an ecto-type subject...not >performing, rather than performing in large quantities (which would earn >the name slutmeister.) > >Now if someone said Happy looked like Monica, that would be different. Monica isn't a slut, either...we don't know of anyone else she was having sex with. Hell, she's looking pretty good for having been monogamous! The biggest slut in this one is Bill, who seemed to be having affairs left and right. Let's move this thread to off-list, and keep the on-list conversation to discussion of whether Happy looks like Paula Jones (which, no doubt, she does). ==> Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:05:52 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy's resemblances re Happy looking like paula jones: If I *had* to choose a Happy look-alike, I'm thinking maybe....Katey Sagal? Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: Charming Hostess Hi, all, Ecto lurker Tamar here... Valerie Kraemer said: > > I've run across a couple of very interesting (and very different) new > releases recently in our record library at WPKN-FM. The first is by a > group from Oakland, CA, called Charming Hostess (CD title: "Eat," on > Vaccination Records), who are self-described as a "thinking woman's > dance band." > > "The band was assembled largely through the efforts of Jewlia Eisenberg > (Yamazons) and is collage of Bay Area musicians. A first addition of > Idiot Flesh bassist and Polymorph Studios recording engineer Dan Rathbun ^^^^^^^^^^^ Wow! A bit of ectosynchronicity for me. Dan and I were friends at UC Berkeley many years ago, and I've seen a couple of his former bands play. Although I've never heard Charming Hostess (but I will!), knowing Dan (and Nils as well), and after reading the descriptions of the music, I would recommend this to people who like music that's not like anything they've heard before. Dan is a brilliant musician (and a really cool person), and I'm definitely going to seek out this disc. Thanks for the tip, Valerie! The other bit of ectosynchronicity attached to this tidbit is that it came from Valerie at WPKN, my favorite radio station for the years I spent in New Haven. I just moved to Seattle (Hi, Neile--hope we can meet soon!). ObHappy: MWABT didn't grab me on the first listen, and I have to admit there were things I actually disliked about it, but now it's growing on me like a weed! Happy's music from the first time I listened to it had that effect on me--it just creeps up on you, and before you know it, it invades your psyche and deposits itself there for good. It's sort of insidious in that way, but it's a welcome invasion! :) Am I the only one around here who really loves BtC? This album actually did grab me from the very first listen. How can anyone resist Collective Heart (Happy's warmest song ever with that groovy bass line of Kevin's in the chorus), or even the title track? Or Down, Down? This is great stuff! By the way, Happy does not bear any resemblance to Paula Jones at all, in my opinion. But I remember telling my boyfriend recently that someone looked like Happy, but now I can't remember who that was! Oh well. Gotta get back to work..... - --Tamar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:26:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Happy Rhodes Review (fwd) forwarded from the folk radio dj list. (without Jim's permission). - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:46:28 -0700 From: Jim Foley Reply-To: Folk and Bluegrass DJs To: FOLKDJ-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU Subject: Happy Rhodes Review Happy Rhodes (terra@ulster.net) Many Worlds Are Born Tonight Samson 1998 (http://www.samsonmusic.com) by Jim Foley So, why do I like Happy Rhodes recordings? It isn't simple to disentangle the threads of her phenomenon for analysis, and the attempt may even be a disservice to it (and her), but it is after all what music reviewers do. First, there is Rhodes the person, of whom I remain innocent of knowledge, despite recognition that there is a burgeoning volume of material shared by a committed fandom. Must be the New Critic in me or, as Annie Gallup says, "trust the art, not the artist." There is also the content of her lyrics, the design choices of album packages, both striking and disturbing, suggesting psychological interpretations which I also habitually resist. Finally, there is the surface, what her music sounds like, and here "Many Worlds are Born Tonight" remains true to the techno-muse trajectory set on Rhodes' 1993 release "Equipoise," fortified by dense sampling and a stripped-down, almost meditational lyrical sense reminiscent of Jenifer Smith's 1997 release "Code Mesa." Start with "100 Years"; after all, it's the first track. The basic production features synthesized techno percussion, dense keyboard sampling augmented by varied sounds of satellites and spheres, the mysterious and ominous mutterings of half-heard voices along crossed telephone lines at midnight, from which rise the manifold manifestations of Rhodes' astonishing vocal range. High, reedy chants, often in tight harmony, offset her rich, resonant narrative voice, nearly a baritone, describing an immortal being, more machine than man, abandoned, bereft of guidance, the prey of inexorable entropy, a startling, disturbing, pathetic conceit. If the bass line of "Proof" doesn't blow your speakers, the strident depth of Rhodes' vocal on the chorus, backed by harmonies not much higher, will blow your mind (been waitin' since the sixties to write that). The beat is shuffling and insistent, a triumphal entry to an identity crisis interrupted by discordant realization ("I was young, I was free once. Nothing I could ever think to do was wrong, then ..."), or is that the true delusion? This is followed by "Looking Over Cliffs," an intense techno-waltz, humming synth and tinkling, slightly dissonant piano prefiguring the fugue between Rhodes' deep lead vocal, betraying a rare raspy emotionalism, and contrapuntal chorus, shamanistic samplings stressing a mythic if not entirely clear theme, perhaps of a sort of redemption. This is but a bare introduction to the tracks on "Many Worlds Are Born Tonight." Happy Rhodes' vocal and production tricks, alloyed with the semi-choate ominousness of her lyrics, suggest the soundtrack to a New Age film, but without the flaccidity. Listen loud and let your mind's eye roam. Goof gloriously. ################## Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in this artist. Hell, I've never even seen her perform, and don't know her. I am not paid in advance to write reviews, although on rare occasions someone will pay me for use rights after the fact. If this is hype, then ALL speech is hype. ################## ========================================================= Jim Foley - Music Director KXCI-FM 220 South Fourth Avenue Tucson AZ 85701 (520) 623-1000 foleyj@azstarnet.com KXCI web site: http://www.kxci.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:07:24 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Happy Jones plus Hi, I haven't met PJ but I would say that a caricaturist's impression of each would be similar. Other than that, there is no real resemblence. Just took some cds to the used cd store: they didn't want Joan Osbourne or the Ethno Punk but took the others. I got Genesis' 3 sides Live virtually free, which is good, 'cause I only want the Live Abacab cut-- love it, the rest...eh. I also got Sam Phillips Martinis and Bikinis for $7. Her voice has the same kind of truncated feeling to it as in Jen Hess (remember her, Tin Angel goers?) and her music is very reminiscent of certain periods of The Beatles. I think I like it. Also picked up, lately, Vonda Shepard, Holly Cole's Temptation and Grace Pool- Where We live. I guess I am only going to keep the Grace Pool. I follow lots of recommendations [here] and have a 80 - 90% keeper rate. 8-) Which reminds me-- You Dirty Guys!!!!!! Before I [met] you I had 200 rock cds -- now I also have 200 'ecto' cds, and I hardly listen to the rock anymore -- they just sit there! Can't bear to part with 'em, so they just sit. Grrr! bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. Whether to suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:45:30 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: MWABT redux Hi, usually I listen to a new loved cd over and over. Often this ends up ruining my enjoyment in the long run. I love MW but have only listened to it 8-9 times since the 11th. I find my self humming certain songs without having them memorized. Each time I do listen to it, it is still fresh!!! bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. Whether to suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:51:20 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: beth orton and SF someone wrote about: >< > Label Toshiba/EMI > >Release Date 1993 > No, it's not this one--this came out before Trailer Park did. can anyone tell me how to get ahold of this album? i would love to hear. i haven't seen it anywhere, even as an import. is it still in print? > I know for sure there's a new album out in november (it's been in > magazines, etc., I've read) BETH ORTON is on tour right now, and is coming to San Francisco. i am seeing her on september 9. if no new information is up by then on the webpage, i will be sure to see what information i can gleam at the concert and duly report it. but since she is on tour, usually that means an album is due out soon. anyone in the bay area going? other shows i am going to (if anyone wants to meet up) is MARK KOZELEK of the RED HOUSE PAINTERS, JOAN BAEZ, and LIZ PHAIR. also can anyone tell me if it is worth going to see emm gryner live? i have her latest (second) album PUBLIC and it is decent (nothing spectacular, but i do enjoy it enough to not take it out of my CD player). she is opening up for Bernard Butler and i am not a huge Britpop fan, so he isn't that much of a draw....just wondering. anyway i still haven't caught up with the past months worth of ecto mailing list, but i just have to say that the MAGNETIC FIELDS show that i went to last week was one of the most amazing shows i have been to in years. Stephin Merrit is brilliant. does anyone have a discography of his that i can check out? i only recognized 80% of the songs he performed and i thought i had most if not all of his stuff. back to working my way through the digests..... irvin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:19:52 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: a *bunch* of music related news (sarah, emm, fiona, etc!) Hey guys, I ran across a couple of these things today as I was looking for other things on the web, so I wrote them all down and here they are: - -Much Music announced the nominees for People's Choice, Sarah McLachlan was nominated for "Sweet Surrender" and is also up for favorite Canadian artist as well as Chantal Kreviazuk and Holly mcNarland. Broadcast Sept. 24 8 pm. - -A couple of Sarah McLachlan related articles at www.wallofsound.com - -Emm Gryner is featured in the August issue of Chart Magazine - -There will be an online broadcast of the Bernard Butler show from Chicago on 8/26 at 9 pm EST (www.rollingstone.com,www.sony.com) (will this feature Emm? anyone?) - -Save Ferris chat Aug 25 5 pm EST @ theglobe.com - -Fiona Apple has a new track on the Pleasantville soundtrack and a new video to go along with it, the song is a cover of the Beatles "Across the Universe" and should premiere/debut/whatever on or around Oct. 6 - -According to "mojo" magazine David Roback guests on the new Beth Orton which apparently is due out in Nov. (though I've heard '99) - -Shawn Colvin has been a mom for just a month and already has a new CD "holiday songs and lullabies" due out of Oct. 13 and will tour with that. Check her site for details, I guess - -On Sat. Aug 29th a bunch of reruns of Sessions @ West 54th are supposed to air (PBS), check local listings; and finally - -Ani Difranco on VH1's Hard Rock Live Friday Aug. 28 jessica n. weiser \ http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess / "the trouble with me is keep believing in the wrong things. who needs to believe anyway? i have given all, i have seen what it brings, i wish it all away" - t.maclean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "J." Wermont Subject: playing songs over and over kerry white wrote: > Hi, usually I listen to a new loved cd over and over. Often this > ends up ruining my enjoyment in the long run. I have this problem too! In fact, when I'm really in love with a song, I have to be very careful not to overplay it or I'll destroy it for myself. But I'm not very good at self-discipline in this area. The song will finish and I'll think, just once more, just once more, etc - till it's too late. I'm an addict! :) Is this common? Actually, there are two different questions here. One is, do many people overplay songs (or albums) they love? And two, does overplaying ruin the song for you, or can you listen to it over and over indefinitely? If you can, I envy you! Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:07:39 -0400 From: les jums Subject: Re: playing songs over and over... and over, and over, and over, and over again! sorry for the weird al reference :) joyce wrote: >Is this common? Actually, there are two different questions here. One >is, do many people overplay songs (or albums) they love? And two, does >overplaying ruin the song for you, or can you listen to it over >and over indefinitely? If you can, I envy you! yes and sometimes. the overplaying thing is something i've definitely noted in the past and tried to stop, but it just seems natural to listen to new stuff constantly... until suddenly, without really realising it, i reach the point where it becomes almost painful to hear. which is very saddening when it's an album/song you really like. as for ruination, i find that can happen with most artists. luckily it's usually not a permanent thing, but there is always a quality of newness that i can keep in part if i *don't* overplay something, but which disappears when i do. and there are some exceptions to the rule, anything by they might be giants being the most striking example. it just doesn't seem to matter how often i listen to their stuff, it's never ruined. :) this is the one thing i like about my listening trends of the past couple of years, though - on the one hand i find it almost disturbing that i don't listen to music nearly as much anymore... but on the other hand, that also means i don't usually overplay an album quite so severely as i once did. and the two hands have lately been reaching towards a happy medium... i listen to music more, again, than i did a year ago... but still not so much that anything starts to grate :) well, wish us luck - laur and i begin our 18-hour odyssey of a return to vancouver tomorrow morning. it'll be nice to get back. - -damon * * * * * * * * * * les jums: jumeaux@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~jumeaux/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:20:25 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: playing songs over and over... damon sez: > this is the one thing i like about my listening trends of the past couple > of years, though - on the one hand i find it almost disturbing that i don't > listen to music nearly as much anymore... for quite a while, this was a trend with me as well, and I found it was something I missed. Part of the cause was when I was going to grad school and had a tv in my room (I was doin' the group house thing, and basically lived in a bedroom/living room/office all rolled into one, so I tended to watch tv while I was working at the computer or whatever). And even after I moved into my current apartment just shy of two years ago, there was a long time when I just didn't seem to be playing much music around the house, nor listening to any at work. Now admittedly, these were due to technical problems (couldn't use the CD-ROM drives in either my home machine (in a different room from the stereo) or my office machine). I finally got both problems straightened out, and now listen to, on average, 4-6 discs a day. And life is good. ;-) jeff np _Passion_, Peter Gabriel - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | moving to jburka@cqi.com -- come say hi | |http://www.cqi.com/~jburka | at the new digs...now up and running! | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:20:45 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Veda Hille and Kinnie Starr in NYC Hi! I was lucky enough to see both of Veda's shows in New York City the past couple days. (Alas, I wasn't able to find out why she'd cancelled the Asbury Park gig on Saturday... I tried!) Sunday night she and Kinnie Starr were at the Meow Mix, a tiny little dyke bar in the East Village. There was a very small crowd there, but they were all attentive and appreciative. Veda did a pretty standard set, consisting entirely of songs from _Spine_ and two of the new songs, "Clumsy" and "Born Lucky". The rest of the set included "Sweet", "INSTRUCTIONS", "26 Years", "One Hot Summer", "Slumber Queen" and "Bellyfish" (with Kinnie providing backing vocals). It was a pretty somber set, but Veda lightened it up in the middle by passing around a photo she had with her for some reason, which was taken when she was 10 on Halloween. She was dressed as a Tuscan Raider (you know, from Star Wars :), and she was incredibly cute. (I must admit to a pang of jealousy: I think that was the same year I went as Darth Vader, but her costume was much cooler than mine. ;) Apparently she was sitting somewhere on St. Marks Place the other day when she was approached by an HBO film crew, who asked if she would go through the contents of her backpack with them. The picture was in the backpack, so who knows -- you all might get a chance to see it too. :) (I have no idea why this film crew wanted to look inside her bag or whether or when it will ever be broadcast, but if I find out anything I'll let y'all know.) We didn't stick around for Kinnie's set, as it was a school night :) and we had to get back home, despite Veda's pleading that we stay. Last night she and Kinnie had the 8 to 9:30 slot at the Old Office in the basement of the Knitting Factory. They both did a tandem set, switching off after one song each. I got there pretty early, and while Veda was putting together her set list she asked if I had any requests. :) I was really happy to hear that she played my three requests first. :) Veda's songs were, in this order: "Bug Yelling"/Song For Snake Three Precious Heart 15 Years Battered/Kill Zone Driven Born Lucky (A Nick Cave song) Praise (Kinnie Starr's song, a cappella, as encore w/Kinnie) "Battered" and "Kill Zone" are two new songs I hadn't heard before. "Battered" is very much like "Clumsy": a quiet, simple guitar line over which she quietly sings the lyrics. (These have a lot of God and storm imagery in them.) From there she immediately went into "Kill Zone", the lyrics for which she said she had taken directly from a pulp novel called _Chicago Kill Zone_. It's loud and she plays the guitar with the slide on it, and it's great. Afterwards she noted that she likes the juxtaposition between religion and violence in those two songs. :) In between, Kinnie Starr did her usual mix of spoken-word, rap over pre-recorded backing music, and songs on her big green guitar. Veda accompanied her on many of them, either on backing vocals or piano or both. It was pretty cool (especially on the songs when Kinnie came out into the audience and did her thing literally in woj's face ;). During Veda's songs, Kinnie would just sit there (in what she called the "executioner's chair") in the background looking at Veda with the most awed fan-girl look on her face. It was really cute. At the end of the set Kinnie commented that it's been great playing with Veda for the past couple weeks, because she's added so much to her songs. She wanted to play on some of Veda's songs too, but "I have no idea what's going on with this thing" (her guitar), and all the time changes and everything just blew her mind so she couldn't do it. The two of them were having a great time, and as the set progressed it was like they were each trying to one-up the other. Veda asked at one point (right before she launched into a driving "15 Years") if it was a challenge. ;) The set got more and more intense and fun as it went along. The audience (which kept getting bigger) really warmed up to Veda quickly, and she got an even bigger ovation than Kinnie at the end (though Kinnie got a big cheer too). I think it was the best performance of Veda's I've seen. My friend Alvin, a fellow Veda fan who is visiting from Norway and had the good fortune to pick this weekend to do so, took a bunch of pictures last night, and they all came out pretty well. They're a touch dark, but not bad. I've scanned them in and will put them up on the web page within the next couple of days. The news is that Veda will be back in NYC with the band (including Ford Pier) in November. They'll be at the Mercury Lounge, and maybe somewhere else too. As always, info will be posted here as soon as I get it. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:36:05 -0500 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Susan McKeown photo: Tompkins Sq. Park Fellow ectophile John Henshon was kind enough to provide one of his photos taken of Susan McKeown earlier this month at the Day of Yoga & Meditation in Tompkins Square Park. Susan, looking ethereal in a white dress, can be found on Susan's Photo Album page: http://www.susanmckeown.com/smkphotos.shtml (personally, I find the sitting position rather remarkable for her to look so comfortable -- she must be sticking with the yoga ) Regards, Carolyn Andre - ------------------- Chicago, IL / USA | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet candre@enteract.com | Carolyn's House of Music: http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:50:04 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Cincinnati Ecto-Gathering? Hi, all ;-) If anyone in, near, or around the Cincinnati vicinity (say *that* ten times fast!) plans to see the Cowboy Junkies/Over the Rhine concert at the Taft Theatre on September 8th.........well........how would you like to try to get together for a pre- or post- concert gathering? Bill (the wagill-guy) is flying in all the way from Seattle for this concert.....I've turned him into an OTR junkie. Heheheheheh.....And I'm sure there are many more Cincy-area ectophiles out there.......Make yourselves known! ;-) By the way.....there's a teeny-tiny rumor going around that I might be hosting a Living Room Concert with Jennifer Kimball as the lead (or maybe only) performer sometime in early November........Keep your fingers crossed and stay tuned! Jill :D *share the music!* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:11:06 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Seaville In a message "Seaville" on 25/Aug/1998 14:43:29 Tim says: > To all Australians on the list, I thoroughly urge you to go and pick up the > new EP by Seaville (called Swansong) now! OK, I'm off to the record shop :) Actually I've been meaning to pick this one up at the first opportunity... I heard a couple of tracks on the radio and it sounded very interesting. My first impression was that it sounded more like the earlier Paradise Motel's recordings than their own "Flight Paths". And that's a very good thing in my book, because I thought Flight Paths turned out to be somewhat disappointing. I missed these "alternately beautiful and disturbing sounscapes for Merida Sussex's hauntingly deadened vocals and frankly scary lyrics" ... which their first record had in spades. It's good to see them back in Merida's solo project. >This has made me really anxious to hear Arossa's stuff, so I'll probably get back to you all with > (hopefully) another recommendation.C I heard Arossa in concert a while ago, and I thought that while it sounded interesting and promising they really needed more time to develop as a band. Perhaps it's time to see them again and check up on their progress. There certainly seems to be a bit of hype about them at the moment, but I have to wonder how much of it is due to their association with Paradise Motel... __________________________________________________ Some people, you just wanna headbutt them in the hope of direct data download.... (from alt.gothic) http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:16:35 -0500 From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Subject: Re: playing songs over and over "J." Wermont wondered: > Is this common? Actually, there are two different questions here. One > is, do many people overplay songs (or albums) they love? And two, > does overplaying ruin the song for you, or can you listen to it over > and over indefinitely? If you can, I envy you! No *I* don't overplay songs/albums I love, but paradoxically, yes, overplaying does ruin songs for me. It's been my experience that the only way I burn out on a song is if I'm forced to listen to it when I don't want to. I hardly ever listen to commercial radio voluntarily (partially for just that reason), but there's no way to escape it - it's in the grocery store, coming out of the car next to you at the stop light, eminating from neighboring officemate's stereos, etc. Several otherwise enjewel^H^H^H^H^Hjoyable songs have suffered this fate. The stuff I love never gets ruined by my own hand because some switch flips in my head and I'll have the desire to listen to something else before the previous song/album starts grating. So back on the shelf it goes to come out again when the mood hits me. I don't listen to, say, Happy all the time - perhaps not even a disproportionate amount of time - but when I want to listen to Rearmament, nothing else in the world sounds so glorious. But if I'm not in the mood, rather than listening to something that doesn't mesh with whatever state I'm in (because, for instance, it was in the CD player when I turned it off the previous day) and letting it generate friction, I pop it out and put in something that's a better fit. ;) just a datapoint for you... bob np - silence, it's bedtime ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:02:59 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Tori's early days, Wednesday AM VH1 I'm surprised no one mentioned tonight's (Tuesday) edition of VH1's Before They Were Rock Stars III, since Tori was featured. I just found out that it's being re-run Wednesday day at 10am (that's Central time). It included not only scenes from "The Big Picture" video, not only scenes from her acting days, not only scenes from her Kellogg's Corn Flakes commercial, but also Tori on local Baltimore TV singing the song "Baltimore" live! Vickie DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:17:48 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Tori's early days, Fri/Sat AM VH1 VH1's Before They Were Rock Stars III featuring Tori will also be shown Friday night/Saturday morning at 12:30am (again, Central Standard Time) according to the VH1 site. Vickie ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #293 **************************