From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #163 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, May 25 1998 Volume 04 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Genesis [Tamar Boursalian ] Re: Genesis [Greg Dunn ] Kristy Thirsk two days in a row! (fwd) [Michael Curry ] Allen Holdsworth (was Re: Genesis) [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: Allen Holdsworth (was Re: Genesis) [Greg Dunn ] natalie merchant's _Ophelia_ [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:19:56 -0400 From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: Genesis Hey, With all this talk about Genesis I thought I'd jump in and mention an album that no one has mentioned and that is ...and then there were three... which is the first album without Steve Hackett. I just listened to this a last week and there are so many great songs on it! Am I the only one one who loves this one? Down and Out, Undertow, Snowbound, Many Too Many, The Lady Lies--these are great songs! It's funny that I really love this album considering the fact that I'm such a huge Steve Hackett fan. If y'all think Tony Banks is underrated, this definitely goes for Steve Hackett as well. Not only is he a great guitarist, one of the most melodic and tasteful, but he writes beautiful music too. My favorite solo albums of his are Voyage Of The Acolyte ('75), Spectral Mornings ('79) whose title track still makes me melt, and Defector ('80). And if you like acoustic guitar music, he's got 3 acoustic albums as well, the most recent one being Midsummer Night's Dream with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra which came out just last year. It's music he wrote which was inspired by Shakespeare. Some of his albums aren't so great (and he's made many!), but the ones that are great more than make up for those that aren't so great. I just wanted to point out that meth failed to mention that woj and I both chastised her for not ringing the doorbell the other night to wake one of us up so we could get the chain off the door and let her into the apartment. I appreciate her thoughtfulness, but as woj said, "NEXT TIME RING THE F***ING DOORBELL!!" And before I go, Neile said sometime last week: >Oh, yay! Another Seattle ectophile! > >Actually, it might be a good idea to fly out for a weekend before the move >to apartment hunt. The apartment market is tight because Seattle is >booming, and August is a particularly competitive time with all the >students coming back (Seattle has 3 universities). > >Anyway, I'll definitely keep my ears open. Because I work at one of those >universities I do hear about these things. I'm not sure I can afford the trip out, but I have a friend I can stay with when I get there until I find something. I appreciate any tips you could give me! >I also used to have a copy of one of Bill Bruford's album (_Feels Good to >Me_?) which had a song based on Alice in Wonderland. I used to faint in >coils to it. I liked that album but wasn't much taken with other stuff I >heard at the time so I haven't sought it out. A great album! I look forward to meeting you when I get to Seattle and I can lend you some of my other Bruford albums! See ya, - --Tamar (tamar.boursalian@yale.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:31:07 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: Genesis >I also used to have a copy of one of Bill Bruford's album (_Feels Good to >Me_?) which had a song based on Alice in Wonderland. I used to faint in >coils to it. I liked that album but wasn't much taken with other stuff I >heard at the time so I haven't sought it out. "Fainting In Coils" is from _One Of A Kind_ . That album, and _Feels Good to Me_ are quite incredible works. Bill Bruford (who also played live with Genesis, to keep the thread from breaking :-) has always been one of my favorite musicians. These two albums feature the inimitable Allan Holdsworth on guitar; Allan gets my vote for "Guitarist Who Can Play Virtuoso Solos Without Making It Sound Like Wanking" :-) If you like jazz with polyrhythms and odd meters (but no lack of melody and groove), Bill's first _Earthworks_ album is utterly delightful; the later ones good but not outstanding. - -- | Greg Dunn | You can always tell bass players | | gregdunn@indy.net | because they have that... sultry | | GregDunn@aol.com | vibe. | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | Elizabeth Hummel (re: Toni) | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:02:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Kristy Thirsk two days in a row! (fwd) I thought some Vancouver area ectophiles might find this of interest... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 01:18:10 EDT From: Milkrox To: vicious-thorn@smoe.org Subject: Kristy Thirsk two days in a row! Hi everyone! As most of you already know, Kristy is playing live at the Bulldog Restaurant in Vancouver on May 30th. She is also playing at the Purple Onion Club on May 31st. Both of the performances are during the New Music West conference in Vancouver. Access to the second performance is with a festival wristband which is $40. The wristband also gives access to performances all around Vancouver from May 28th to 30th. the main festival concerts include performances by Big Sugar, Copyright, Los Lobos, Matthew Good Band and 54.40. The wristband is sold through Ticketmaster. bye for now Erika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:48:15 -0500 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Allen Holdsworth (was Re: Genesis) Hi, Any group that has AH will be great, but, IMHO, stay away from his solo stuff. I just can't get into his own writing, I'm afraid the solo stuff leaves me cold. KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 13:12:56 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: Allen Holdsworth (was Re: Genesis) >Hi, Any group that has AH will be great, but, IMHO, stay away from his >solo stuff. I just can't get into his own writing, I'm afraid the solo >stuff leaves me cold. > > KrW I found "Atavachron" excellent, and the others so-so. YMMV. :-) - -- | Greg Dunn | | | gregdunn@indy.net | "Talking about music is like | | GregDunn@aol.com | dancing about architecture." | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn/ | Frank Zappa | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 21:38:09 -0400 From: meredith Subject: natalie merchant's _Ophelia_ Hi! Neal implored: >How about some reviews of this? I've been reading far more postive press >about this album than Tigerlilly. Okay. :) I just picked it up on Friday afternoon, but I've listened to it 5 times and I have to say that it's grown on me a lot. My initial impression was that the album really never gets going, but now I don't think it really needs to. The one-word capsule description I could give would be "languid". The album is very much like _Tigerlily_ in that respect, but musically it is much different. There is a very heavy emphasis placed on strings and orchestration, and the result is very nice. I especially like the "reprise" of "Ophelia", which rounds out the album as a quasi-hidden track and is basically a string quintet instrumental of the first and title song. Natalie Merchant's voice and singing style are the same as ever. However, I really can't imagine her having any chart-topping hits with any of the songs on this disc (which of course isn't necessarily a bad thing). Jennifer Turner doesn't appear on this album, which is a bummer, but there are some notable guest appearances, including Michelle Kinney on 3 songs, Karen & Don Peris on two songs (which really do sound like Innocence Mission tunes - Don Peris does that to everything he plays on, doesn't he?), Chris Botti on one, and Daniel Lanois on one. Funny thing about Chris Botti - I'd never heard of him before Bruford/Levin, and now he's just popping up all over the place. :) Even if I hadn't already known it was going to be his trumpet on track 6, I would've known it was him immediately. I hate the packaging, though. I can deal with the environmentally-friendly cardboard digipak, but the photos on the cover and all the way through it are just stupid. They show Natalie in all sorts of weird costumes and poses, for no apparent reason whatsoever. The liner notes say that they're "from a film by Mark Seliger & Fred Woodward", and I'm guessing that film is a video for one of the songs, but I'm not 100% sure of that. And there's no lyrics, which I always find annoying. One of the pleasures of bringing home a new CD, for me, is opening it up and reading along with the lyric booklet as the album unfolds for the first time. I hate when I can't do that. I don't know exactly why, but I just *like* what Natalie Merchant does, usually no matter what she's doing. As with _Tigerlily_, I don't think she's going to win any new fans with _Ophelia_, but if any other old-timers are like me, they're going to be quite pleased with this one as well on general principle. Hope that helps, Neal! :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #163 **************************