From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #162 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, May 24 1998 Volume 04 : Number 162 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Danielle's Daze? [Tim Finney ] Re: Tori review at The War Against Silence [Tim Finney ] Genesis [dave ] Alanis and Jewel News [00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu] Re: Genesis [JavaHo ] Nightbirds at The Bottom Line [meredith ] Chat Transcript Online [meredith ] Re: Genesis [Greg Dunn ] Smoe.org fundraiser - Thanx! (and deadline for the doorprizes) [Mike Conn] Re: Nightbirds at The Bottom Line [Neal Copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 May 98 16:54:43 -0000 From: Tim Finney Subject: Danielle's Daze? A few weeks ago I saw the clip for a song by a woman/band under the name of "Danielle's Daze" called 100% Jesus. The woman has a strong celtic accent, and the music is sort of dance/rock a la Garbage. The song's chorus went: Say hello to the father and the holy ghost hello to the father and the holy ghost hello to the father and the holy ghost You're the one I love the most (then there was this cool processed vocal in the background, and she starts singing:) You're 100% Jesus You're 100% Jesus to me. On first impressions the song sounded fantastic. Anyway, I looked for any cds by her/them and found a newly released album, sensitively titled "Slut", and I'm wondering whether I should get it. Does anyone have any other information on this woman/band? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Tim - ----- This signature was designed by three hundred different internet technicians working in conjunction with two talking monkeys ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 98 16:54:56 -0000 From: Tim Finney Subject: Re: Tori review at The War Against Silence >I can't say enough about how amazing Glenn McDonald's (once a member of >ecto) review of _from the choirgirl hotel_ is. I agree totally. I have been an avid reader of Glenn's reviews for a while now (and he's gotten me on to so many people - Marillion, Big Country, Scott Walker, IQ, Simple Minds, Talk Talk, Comsat Angels, Whipping Boy, Dar Williams... just through his excellent writing), and after his excellent review of Boys For Pele I was expecting an interesting review for FTGH, but I did not expect a seven page epic in which he poured out his heart and soul to Tori. And I know exactly what he means when he says that now is the time to be alive for music. Everyone who hasn't been to his site, get a move on! You'll find yourself waiting impatiently for the new editions each Thursday night. Regards, Tim - ----- This signature was designed by three hundred different internet technicians working in conjunction with two talking monkeys ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 03:00:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Jewel Kilcher (JewelJK@aol.com) ********************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Dr. Firewall Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Pisces Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:36:10 -0400 From: dave Subject: Genesis Okay, how could you all discuss Genesis and not mention Wind & Wuthering or Tony Banks? This was a pretty big album way back when I was a teen, I remember Eleventh Earl of Mar, One for the Vine and All in a Mouse's Night getting a lot of airplay, and of course Your Own Special Way and Afterglow.. yes there was a time when they'd actually play more than two songs from an album. Blood on the Rooftops has some really nice guitar on it too.. I always liked Tony Banks' writing and keyboards, he did most of W&W and TotT, but I never seem to hear him getting much credit.. anyway, I found a pretty good website with info and reviews of all their albums at: http://www.pacificcoast.net/~pollux/kids.htm np: W&W (what else) desperately trying to find: my copy of TotT thinking of playing next: Alan Parsons I Robot, I'm in a mid 70's kinda mood.. later dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:51:28 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Alanis and Jewel News Well, damnit. I thought Alanis Morissette's album was done and we were gonna get it soon, but she's just now recording demos and will go into the studio. MTV said to look out for an album soon... I'm sure Steph would have more info than me, though. :) (Steph! Where are you?) Alanis is also playing God in Kevin Smith's new movie. Interesting :) Jewel said on MTV that she did record an album 2 years ago but is planning to go back into the studio in August and release it by November. Anywway, yeah. :) Jessica NP: Sarah Slean (still ;) http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess <-- updated Bio w/ summer plans :) "i'm stained all through my inside" - emm gryner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:59:51 EDT From: JavaHo Subject: Re: Genesis Dave asks: << Okay, how could you all discuss Genesis and not mention Wind & Wuthering or Tony Banks? >> Actually, I was also surprised that no one mentioned Wind & Wuthering. For me, A Trick of the Tail and W & W were the only two post-Gabriel albums worthy of the name Genesis, although I'm not among those who believe that the band ceased to exist creatively after Gabriel's departure. Eleventh Earl of Mar was musical literature to me once upon a time. For anyone looking to explore the real Genesis, I'd have to warn that the music that came from them during the 80's and 90's was a complete departure from the incredible band they were. That is not to say that the more recent music is unlistenable, but it is much more rooted in popular tastes. Popular, of course, refering to music of such general appeal that it can be spoon-fed to the masses via the media. Enjoying this Genesis thread...Java ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:53:32 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Nightbirds at The Bottom Line Hi! Thursday night I made it down to the Bottom Line to see Veda Hille's surprise performance at this month's Nightbirds show. Due to various unpleasantries at work I missed the train that would have gotten me there in time for the second half of the early show (Veda was on 3rd of 4 performers), and woj couldn't make it to the late show, so I decided to be foolish and take the train for the late show, knowing full well that I may end up taking the very last train back and getting home at almost 4 am, even though I had to work at 8:30 the next morning. As it was I did get home at almost 4 am and ended up sleeping in the hallway because my esteemed housemates, thinking I would be staying in the city had put the chain on the door, and going to work on 90 minutes sleep yesterday was *not* very much fun. But was it all worth it? Yes. Oh, yes. :) There weren't very many people there, so everyone pretty much had their choice of seats. Hillary, who was also in attendance assured me that the "reserved" sign on the table front and center didn't mean anything, and nobody chased us off so I guess it didn't. :) Cindy Lee Berryhill was on first, and she was as wonderfully weird as I'd heard she is. She had a guitarist/backing vocalist on stage with her whom she didn't introduce, and they both played identical big red guitars. CLB also played her Casiotone, which was propped on top of a toy piano. Unfortunately I don't know the names of any of the songs she played, but one of them involved a tape of a skipping Beach Boys record (this one was great), and on the next-to-last song, which I'm guessing was called "Make Way For The Handicapped" she invited Veda and the drummer from Lara Lavi's band onstage to help her out. Veda crouched in front of the toy piano and spent the song grooving away, tossing her pink hair about while trying not to lose her glasses, banging out an octave and occasionally leaning way over to yell harmony in the vague direction of the piano's mic. It was hilarious - I wish I'd videotaped it. Hell, I I wish I'd audiotaped CLB's set, but I didn't think about it until it was too late. :P Oh well. After CLB a rather large band took the stage, and Lara Lavi took over for the next 30 excruciating minutes. I should've known to be Very, Very Afraid when half of the literature the Bottom Line staff handed out at the door consisted of glossy, effuvescent promotional materials for this "wonderful, outstanding" woman from Seattle, and there were posters of her everywhere, too. I do have to say that if I'd been blindfolded I probably wouldn't have minded her music too much - it was pretty unoriginal, but it did induce toe-tapping at regular intervals, and she has a pretty nice voice. However, I couldn't stop myself from watching her, and that just killed the whole thing for me. Imagine if Deborah whasername from Romeo Void had graduated from the Paula Cole School Of Stage Overdramatics, multiply that by six, and you've got Lara Lavi. Aside from playing fiddle and a big Rickenbacker guitar (I will say that she plays guitar better than, say, Oh Susanna), she played the air. In big, swooping, arcing motions. A *lot*. I missed her big modern dance performance because I had to flee for the bathroom at one point, but according to Hillary that was pretty scary too. Next came a short intermission, and then it was time for Veda's set. She was replacing Christine Taylor, a spoken-word artist who, apparently, does things like balance a watermelon on the back of her neck and have her partner cut it with a chainsaw. Gee, sorry I missed it. :) Veda came onstage in a black cocktail dress and her new shoes (which she had enthusiastically pointed out to me when I saw her before the show and can only be described as Air Jordan sandals), drink in hand, and proceeded to do a completely spoken rendition of "INSTRUCTIONS", followed by "Well, I Guess Not" and a hilarious bit of 'psychosurrealism' called "Sink" (which I had previously known by the title of "Bug Yelling"). For "Sink" she stood about four feet behind the microphone and shouted about cockroaches showing up in soup, two women in an airplane-shaped hotel room, and finally a woman who finds a pole in the water and crawls down it to the bottom, where she stays until she drowns. After that came two new songs on the guitar: the one she's played previously that has the line about "maybe we can fuck in the kitchen", immediately followed by a playful one with the lines, "why don't you come up, my bed's unmade" and later, "why don't you come up and make my bed", both of which she prefaced by saying that the first was about the sad side of love and the second about the happy side, which is how she hopes it goes for everyone. It was the first time she had ever performed that song. I liked it a lot. Apparently they were both written for banjo - can't wait to hear them that way! Then she made her way to the piano and played yet another new song, this one again a debut, which she introduced by saying that it's for an 18-month-old friend of hers, then mentioned the inspiration also came from the translation of the word a British Columbian tribe has for "god": "woman who is afraid of nothing" (I think I'm remembering that correctly). This song was gorgeous. Maybe it was the piano, but it sounded like it could have come from _Path Of A Body_ with a bit of the chills I always get from "26 Years" thrown in. I had barely recovered from that when she again went to the front of the stage and picked up the accordion belonging to the previous band, and performed e.e. cummings' "somewhere i have never travelled, gladly beyond" in its entirety. A bit of this is the "hidden track" on _Spine_, but last night she did the whole thing, with accordion accompaniment, ending it with the bit as it appears on the album. As Veda always does, by the end of her set she'd completely won over the room, and left those of us who were there expressly to see her shaking our heads and wondering just how she can keep on doing what she does to us *every single time*. As Veda made her way offstage to a rousing ovation the host, WFUV DJ Meg Griffin noted, "isn't it a pleasure to be a part of something like this, and know that you're one of a select few who had the brains to be here at The Bottom Line tonight?" Amen. :) It was definitely a special performance, and I'm very glad I had the chance to experience it. Thank the gods the tape came out!!! Patti Rothberg was up next. Alas I had to leave after two songs because my crash space for the night fell through due to the extreme lateness of the hour, and if I'd missed the last train I would have been screwed. I was bummed because she seemed to be well on her way to peeling the paint off of the back wall, and I just love it when that happens at the Bottom Line because it's just so ... so ... impertinent. :) Hopefully I'll get a chance to see her again sometime soon. Next on the calendar is The Nields opening for 10,000 Maniacs at Wetlands in NYC on Thursday night. Yay!!! What a perfect double bill. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:56:45 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Chat Transcript Online Hi! I've got the transcript of Monday night's chat session with Veda up at . Enjoy! There's lots of neat tidbits of information there. Perhaps the most important one is that she will *not* be participating in Lilith Fair - they had asked her to be on the Village Stage in Vancouver, but she turned down the offer. If anyone needs the transcript sent to them via e-mail, please drop me a note and I'll get it right out to you. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:33:46 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: Genesis >Okay, how could you all discuss Genesis and not mention Wind & Wuthering >or Tony Banks? >... >I always liked Tony Banks' writing and keyboards, he did most of W&W and >TotT, but I never seem to hear him getting much credit.. I"ve always thought Tony was one of the most tasteful and melodic keyboard players in the world. His work on "Live" and "Selling England..." just about defines the sound of Genesis for me. I had almost forgotten "Eleventh Earl of Mar"; and must add "Dodo" as (for me, anyway) the last truly Genesis-like gem to emerge from the studio, as late as Abacab. To me, W&W seems like a predominantly Steve Hackett-influenced album, even though Tony contributes a huge amount. Steve's textured and well-paced guitar fills are always there, creating an atmosphere that didn't always flourish in the early albums. Steve's solo work is very Genesis-ish too, btw; I have a couple of his '80s albums and like them a lot. I guess I omitted W&W because I was trying not to make a list of every album with Steve in it; it would have made my bias too obvious. :-) - -- | Greg Dunn | Every year is getting shorter, | | gregdunn@indy.net | never seem to find the time | | GregDunn@aol.com | Plans that either come to nought | | GregDunn@compuserve.com | or half a page of scribbled lines | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | Pink Floyd | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 23:03:36 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Smoe.org fundraiser - Thanx! (and deadline for the doorprizes) Hi folks :-) Just wanted to again say thanx to all those that contributed to the fund raiser for the new smoe.org hardware :-) As Jeff Wasilko posted yesterday, over $3500 thus far has been sent in and he is installing a new $4600 system this weekend. Also, as he said I am still accepting donations towards this cause, as we did fall about a grand short of the final cost (not to mention Jeff pays the $150+ a month operating costs....so I myself wouldn't mind seeing us foot the whole bill for the hardware :-) Also, also - I'd like to announce that the deadline for me to receive donations where you would be eligible for one of the door prizes is next weekend, as I am going to randomly pick the winners next Sunday May 31st, meaning donations I receive in the mail by next Saturday the 30th will be eligible. No matter if you donated one dollar or two-hundred fifty dollars, you have an equal chance for any of the prizes. (All of the door prizes are Jewel related) In addition to a bunch of Jewel key chains & Jewel pins, I have the seven Jewel autographed items listed below (at the end of this email). These items were autographed by Jewel herself, not some stamp, not another person, not some machine. (People have been asking me if her presigned poetry books that are available at various Virgin Megastore bookstores around the USA were actually signed by her....that I cannot answer, as I don't have an answer) I might add that the odds of winning one of these autographed items isn't too bad, since as of this moment there's only been 145 donations sent in. So the odds right now are just a tad over 20-1. To donate, send cash, check or money order. PLEASE make out any checks or money orders to Jeff Wasilko. Send donations to: Mike Connell PO Box 1206 Binghamton NY 13902-1206 This is the last time I'll be ringing that bell :-) Again, I wish to thank all of you who have donated already, all who may soon do so, and all of you who belong to any smoe.org mailing list, as it is the people and their love of the artists' music that make these lists special :-) To see what artists mailing lists exist for on smoe.org, check out http://www.smoe.org/lists cybernetly yours, Mike :-) P.S. If you are new to any of these lists and want more info on this fund raiser, just email me privately and I'll send you copies of my previous posts, and/or answer any questions you may have. *************************************************************************** THE DOOR PRIZES THE DOOR PRIZES THE DOOR PRIZES *************************************************************************** (In addition to a bunch of Jewel key chains and pins) The seven autographed items are (each individually awarded) a) Two twenty page, full of pictures, full color Jewel lyric books autographed in gold ink on the front cover. These are the same books that were being sold at last summers' Lilith Fair and Jewel's 1997 Fall Tour. b) Two sets of five 5x7 semi-glossy color photo packs, with the first picture autographed in gold ink. The pictures and lyric book can be viewed here: http://www.jeweljk.com/catalog1164/catalog.htm c) TWO of Jewel's ten times platinum Pieces Of You CD, with the insert autographed in gold ink. d) This is the top prize, especially to the collectors out there! A brand spanking new autographed in gold ink, RARE promotional CD, commonly known as "Phyllis Barnaby Finally Gets A Bra". It's a 4 track "You Were Meant For Me" promo CD that is pretty much impossible to find now a days. In fact, I myself consider it harder to find than her other promo CD "Save The Linoleum". The 4 tracks are an unreleased version of You Were Meant For Me (known as the Juan Patino version), and three other unreleased tracks Cold Song, Rocker Girl and Emily (although all three have subsequently been released on the vinyl version of Pieces Of You) * The Patty Griffin/Mad-Mission@smoe List Homepage is at: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/pattyg.htm * * The Jewel EveryDay Angels List Homepage & Guide is at: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup * * aka DuckOfPrey@aol.com WhyADuck55 on AOL Instant Messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 23:47:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Nightbirds at The Bottom Line On Sat, 23 May 1998, meredith wrote: Sounds like you had a great evening meth. Sometime I'll have to treck up to NYC for one of those things. I can't believe I still haven't seen Veda live. Does she ever play anywhere beside Vancouver, Seattle and NYC? > Cindy Lee Berryhill was on first, and she was as wonderfully weird as I'd > heard she is. She had a guitarist/backing vocalist on stage with her whom > she didn't introduce, and they both played identical big red guitars. I think she's travelling with C.J. Hutchins, another San Diego musician. > Unfortunately I don't know the names of any of the songs she played, but > one of them involved a tape of a skipping Beach Boys record (this one was > great) Yeah, that's one of my favorites. It used to be called "She Won't Even Try" (which is the lyrics on the skip), but has taken on the unofficial name of "The Skip Song", since that's what most people were calling it. Maybe now that she has (at least) 2 skip songs, it can have a real name again? > Hell, I I wish I'd audiotaped CLB's > set, but I didn't think about it until it was too late. :P Oh well. Well, it won't be nearly the same as having Veda Hille sit in, but I'll be taping her show from the soundboard at Iota on Sunday, and you are welcome to a tape of it..... > It was definitely > a special performance, and I'm very glad I had the chance to experience it. > Thank the gods the tape came out!!! .... perhaps in return for a tape of this? (I have a couple of tapes ready for woj for some more hugo largo stuff, so maybe we can toss them all together?) Speaking of Hugo Largo again, anyone got the Mimi disc yet? It's high on my list, but I haven't found it reasonably priced yet. > How about some reviews of this? I've been reading far more postive press about this album than Tigerlilly. Neal np: R.E.M. - Reckoning ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #162 **************************