From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #147 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, May 11 1998 Volume 04 : Number 147 Today's Subjects: ----------------- News Page [meredith ] Kristin Hersh Webcast [Joseph Zitt ] EWS spree on Thursday [Ariana@excelsior.net] just another saturday night [woj spice ] Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast ["Kathy Clark and/or Ed Clark" ] EWS... [JavaHo ] Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast [Joseph Zitt ] Re: EWS... [Joseph Zitt ] emer kenny ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Re: emer kenny [Michael Curry ] Re: emer kenny [meredith ] Re: emer kenny [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:33:02 -0400 From: meredith Subject: News Page Hi! I just wanted to let y'all know that I've added a new feature to the trajectory web site: a News Flash page, where I will put all of the tidbits of news related to Veda Hille gigs, releases, radio appearances, miscellaneous performances etc., as well as any list-related happenings that may occur in future. The URL is . I've also provided an easy link at the bottom to NetMind, which will allow you to sign up to receive an e-mail message every time the page is updated, thus saving you from having to remember to check back for updates at regular intervals. I hope people find this page is a useful resource. My intent is to provide a complement to Veda's official home page, and I'll go out of my way to avoid posting redundant information. If anyone has any suggestions or news to add to the page, please e-me privately. Thanks! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:12:47 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Kristin Hersh Webcast Sorry for the short notice, but her performance at the Knitting Factory tonight at 8 PM EST (very soon) *may* be webcast via RealPlayer at http://newalbion.com/artists/cagej/silence/ The Knit's been flaky about their Webcasts, but there's a chance... NP. Terry Riley, "Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band 'All Night Flight' Volume 1 NR. The latest issue of Lilith magazine. - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 1998 19:13:34 EDT From: Ariana@excelsior.net Subject: EWS spree on Thursday I had an EWS spree on Thursday in the village. I was at a boring conference on Morton street in the morning so I had the rest of the day to do some music shopping. I unfortunately picked up a lot of crap. (I was taking chances with people I never heard of before.) I shopped at Sounds and Disco-Rama Clearance. I picked up the following: Moxie-The Floor ($3.99-They are a band from Long Island. The album is growing on me. I happened to see them live once for free and really liked them.), Lauren Christy-Breed (.88-I listened to the first song and liked it), Taja Sevelle-A lot like you (.88 why oh why did I pick this up...Not only this is not my kind of music but it's not an album.), The elastic pure joy-(.88 another album why i wonder why the hell did I pick this up. I thought by the cover art it would be a female singing. It's not.), Music to floss your ears with-Zoe, Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise, Babe the Blue Ox, Delinquent Habits, Republica, and Skold-(.88-Sounds good), Tami Hert-If you were mine-(.88 another why the fuck did I buy this), Kathleen Wilhoite-Pitch like a girl-(.88 I listened to the first song and I did like the sound. I picked it up because she looks like Tori Amos. I'll give it a chance since it's on Tower's listening station.), Noella Hutton-(.88 I know the first song from the lillith fair sampler cassette. I think the album will grow on me.), Brigid Boden(.88 I like her voice and the irish sound but I think it got to be a little too much with the hip hop sound mixed in. But I will give it a chance.), Veda Hille-spine(4.99-It's growing on me.), Bitter-Nepotism-(.88-I thought once again that it would be a woman singing. So once again I am disapointed.), Bernadette McCallion-(.88 it's a 3 song ep. I bought it because I like the song White alot.), Kristen Hall-Fact and Fiction-(.88-I liked the first song), They Might Be Giants-Snail Shell-(.88 was a waste because it's not an album), on cassettes-Holly McNarland-Stuff-(.99 I have it on cd but I figure I could use one for the car.), Controlled Bleeding-Penetration-(.99 I have always wanted to know what they sound like), Judybats-pain makes you beautiful-(.99-I haven't listened to it yet but I use to hear good things about them.), Aftershock-Slave to the vibe-(.99 I bought it because I loved the song slave to the vibe on the Sliver soundtrack), More cds: catherine wheel-before Adam and eve radio hits sampler-(2.99 a waster because the back said it was adam and eve which it's not), Catherine wheel-Ferment-(4.99 I haven't listened to it yet), Clara Thomas-$2.99 (I like their sound), Suddenly, tammy!-we get there when we do-3.99 (i like it), Neneh cherry-homebrew-(5.99 I usually won't pay that much but I haven't found that cd easily used.). I also bought a promotional poster of tori amos for madison square garden in may of the dew drop inn tour for $4.99....2 other cds I want to mention is a free cd I picked up at Sam goody called-Long Island voice presents...those damn folkies vol. 4. I like a few of the songs like one from Marci Geller, Kristin Mainhart, and Bernadette McCallion. Speaking of Kristin Mainhart...she has an amazing voice. I heard 3 of her songs on a cassette a friend of mine got from his roomate. She has been compared to Tori and Fiona for her singing and piano playing. Her song "Blame it on me" gave me chills the first time I heard it. I hope to see her this summer either in NYC or Long Island when she plays...I also want to mention that I love Tori's new album. I originally thought I was not going to like it but I loved it right away. I think I like it better than BFP. But not so much for it's lyrics but for the music. My favorite song right now is "Rasberry Swirl". My friend thought that song is too much but I like it like that. That song is the best song to work out to! :) And I am looking forward to seeing her at Madison Square Garden. By some miracle I got section 2 Row F main floor. I never got such great seats with her before. I thought that I would end up with nose bleed seats there! :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:07:17 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: just another saturday night also sprach Hillary Jackson: >Which 'Daddy's Little Girl' is this? Do they have one of their own? yup. i remember hearing it, i don't remember what it sounded like, but i know it was not the same one that susan mckeown does (written by rosie walls). speaking of which, the usual suspects (jeff wasilko, mike curry, meredith and myself) saw susan play at fez in new york last night. mike, meredith and i skipped the early fez show to catch kristen hersh at the knitting factory earlier in the evening, while jeff headed to fez for both of susan's sets. kristen hersh was fantastic. just her and her guitar. she played mostly songs from her new record _strange angels_, a couple from the previous solo effort and a bunch of throwing muses tunes (!) including "pearl", "serene", "delicate cutters" and a couple other i don't remember. i do remember at least one song that i had never heard before, so i think she's trying out some new material. kristen's very thankful on stage -- she seemed genuinely surprised and touched that anyone bothered to come out on a rainy day to see her play. but after hearing her play, i wonder how anyone could *not* have. after her set, we rushed out grabbed a taxi and headed uptown to fez for the second half of the festivities. we figured that by the time we got there, there would already be a line, but no one was there yet! well, that's not quite true: paul blair was sitting with a friend inside fez, but they didn't join the line until a bit later. the fortune with the line turned into a good seat right up front for the late show. mila drumke opened. she and her band were plagued by technical difficulties and, because of that, were particularly wacky, but their set was good nonetheless. they seemed more raucous than usual, but that may just have been the bad battery in one of mila's pedal distorting her guitar. her set included one new song, the vocal excerpt from "a play of st. nicholas" (on _gathering my name_) and the standards: "constance", "time we spent" and a kick-ass version of "world away". susan mckeown's show was excellent (insert here all that you've heard us spout before so i don't have to repeat it yadda yadda yadda). highlights were the return of "heart" and "storm in a teacup" to the setlist and mila joined susan for a duet of "bushes and briars" which was breath-taking. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:45:35 -0400 From: "Kathy Clark and/or Ed Clark" Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast Are you sure that this is where it'd be? I went to the URL, and it didn't seem very much like the place for a Kristen Hersh Webcast... Kathy - ---------- > From: Joseph Zitt > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Kristin Hersh Webcast > Date: Sunday, May 10, 1998 7:12 PM > > Sorry for the short notice, but her performance at the Knitting Factory > tonight at 8 PM EST (very soon) *may* be webcast via RealPlayer at > http://newalbion.com/artists/cagej/silence/ > The Knit's been flaky about their Webcasts, but there's a chance... > > NP. Terry Riley, "Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band 'All Night Flight' > Volume 1 > > NR. The latest issue of Lilith magazine. > -- > ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- > |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| > ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| > |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:33:14 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast Kathy Clark and/or Ed Clark wrote: > > Are you sure that this is where it'd be? I went to the URL, and it didn't > seem very much like the place for a Kristen Hersh Webcast... Joe seems to have pasted in the url to the John Cage mailing list he runs, rather than the Knitting Factory. The KF's homepage is at knittingfactory.com. You can reach the live page at http://www.knittingfactory.com/Live/Welcome.html (I've just tried hooking in to the Kristen Hersh feed with no success. ) jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 21:01:29 EDT From: JavaHo Subject: EWS... Just bought new Tori. I immediately like it better than BfP. May take a while to completely grow on me, but then UtP did, too, and now I love it. "Spark" is instantly accessible, which means that we'll soon be sick of hearing it on "alternative" radio (not that I listen to radio). Also Emma Townshend "Winterland". I remember an Emma thread a while back, but I don't remember the concensus. Soooo...my two cents is that I like it. I think it's going to grow on me and become a regular listen for a while. I bought it on the strength of "The Last Time I Saw Sadie". She has an interesting and palatable voice. Her songwriting is quite nice for a first effort. This CD stands on its own merit, but I think it shows potential for some nice future efforts, too. Picked up Ebba Forsberg "Been There". It's a little more pop than I remembered from the first listen, but still a good buy at $9.99 at Borders. Nice voice, decent songwriting. I'll definitely give it a few more spins, although it doesn't knock me down. Two discs that I listened to but did not pick up were Kathleen Wilhoite (I'm sorry, but I don't remember the title). I believe this is a debut. I will be picking it up at some point, but it wasn't on sale. I liked it better on first listen than Ebba. Java sez "Give it a whirl." The other was Chris Stills (also don't remember the title). Everything that people have been saying on the list about him is TRUE!!!! Killer voice...he has that nice edge that his father does. And the songwriting and guitar work were great. Another one that I will be buying when I can find it at a decent price. Happy music shopping...Java ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:33:15 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast Kathy Clark and/or Ed Clark wrote: > > Are you sure that this is where it'd be? I went to the URL, and it didn't > seem very much like the place for a Kristen Hersh Webcast... Well, the Web site listed: Knitting Factory Main Space Sunday, May.10 8:oo pm Kristin Hersh 1o:oo pm Otomo Yoshihide ...and there was an ectophile presence at her gig there last night... OTOH, I just tuned into the stream from there, and, while its streaming OK according to the plugin, while Otomo Yoshihide *may* be playing an extended silence in the dark, I think something's awry.... - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:39:09 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh Webcast Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Joe seems to have pasted in the url to the John Cage mailing list > he runs, rather than the Knitting Factory. :slams head against keyboard repeatedly. Just *once* Windows should have what I expect in the paste buffer -- and I should proofread. AAAAaaaaarrrggghhhhh.... - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:49:31 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: EWS... JavaHo wrote: > > Just bought new Tori. I immediately like it better than BfP. May take a while > to completely grow on me, but then UtP did, too, and now I love it. "Spark" is > instantly accessible, which means that we'll soon be sick of hearing it on > "alternative" radio (not that I listen to radio). I definitely like it better that BfP, though IMHO it doesn't have LE's immediacy or UtP's clarty. (To expand acronyms, add water.) I've listened to it several times, and while none of it is yet running in my head, and I can't tell the songs apart, it's a big step from the aimless murk of its predecessor. I also got the Lilith Fair set. I liked most of it, though nothing on it made me want to run out and get CDs that I didn't already have by the artists -- with the significant exception of Yungchen Lhamo's "Lama Dorje Chang" which is magnificent. It struck me listening to the Lilith Fair immediately after the Tori that I was the first time in a while I'd listened to several discs of *songs* in a row. My most recent slow-motion EWS consisted of, in addition to them, several Miles Davis disks, Meredith Monk, Ornette Coleman, Jeffrey Stolet (how could I resist a disk of computer music named "Concerto for Orchestra, Chainsaw, and Cow"?), and Anthony Braxton, none of whom are exactly singer-songwriters :-) n.p. Miles Davis: Decoy (I got it on CD after having had the vinyl since it first came out in 1984 -- and, listening to it for the first time in years, I'm amazed at how much I copped from it in the music I was making in the '80s...) n.r. uh, same as last time... - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:08:48 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: emer kenny our own Craig Gidney just loaned me Emer Kenny's album (the name of which changes depending on whether I look at her web page on her label's site, or the cover) _Advance Music_ or simply eponymous. Curious. Anyway, I'm not aware of Kenny's music being mentioned on ecto in the past (and a quick glance at upcoming K's in the EGGM doesn't show her name either), and I'm rather curious as to why; she is quite the quintessential ecto artist. Fuzzy, ethereal, beautiful female vocals overlaying light-weight- yet-beautifully-textured sequenced percussive tracks and electronics, held together by irish harp, bodhran, uillean pipes, etc. Sort of imagine if Loreena McKennitt had moved in the Beth Orton direction, rather than the Peter Gabriel World Beat direction, only *completely* different. Hmm. That probably doesn't help much. Well, you can check out some RA5 samples on her web site at: http://www.triloka.com/global/cdkenny.shtml Highly, highly recommended to those of you who like harp, modern celticy stuff, and understated bizarreness. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:57:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: emer kenny On Sun, 10 May 1998, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > our own Craig Gidney just loaned me Emer Kenny's album (the name of > which changes depending on whether I look at her web page on her label's > site, or the cover) _Advance Music_ or simply eponymous. Curious. > Highly, highly recommended to those of you who like harp, modern > celticy stuff, and understated bizarreness. I picked up this CD a few weeks ago in a $2 bin after getting a rather tepid review from Meredith (who said it was good background stuff) and a negative review from someone else whose opinions about music I have a lot of respect for. I *loathe* this CD. It's the first CD in quite a long while that I actually want to destroy rather than risk the possibility of it accidently landing in my (or anyone else's) CD player. In my opinion it's a perfect example of the sort of "celtic"/newage swill that's caught on so big with major label marketing departments lately. If anyone heard that little bit of pseudo-Enya that Grandpa on South Park used to illustrate what it's like to be old... well, that was better than this CD. In my opinion of course, since obviously your milage may vary. :) Mike np: Altan -- Horse With A Heart nr: Summon the Keeper by Tanya Huff | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:51:57 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: emer kenny Hi! I am way behind, but I just had to respond to this: Jeffy posted: >Anyway, I'm not aware of Kenny's music being mentioned on ecto in the past >(and a quick glance at upcoming K's in the EGGM doesn't show her name either), >and I'm rather curious as to why; she is quite the quintessential ecto artist. Actually, she has been mentioned here. We picked up her album a while ago and I recall saying something about it. Basically, I decided she's the Irish Julee Cruise. I haven't been motivated to listen to the album in a long time, though, mostly because some people I know have had some really bad things to say about it motivated by really understandable concerns, and that kind of soured me on it. (And I'm not talking about Mike Curry's proclamation that the album emanates "that giant sucking sound", either. ;) It's good background music for doing e-mail or whatnot, but that's about it. >Fuzzy, ethereal, beautiful female vocals overlaying light-weight- >yet-beautifully-textured sequenced percussive tracks and electronics, held >together by irish harp, bodhran, uillean pipes, etc. "Lightweight" would be the most apt adjective to describe it, I guess. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:20:12 -0500 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: emer kenny Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: >our own Craig Gidney just loaned me Emer Kenny's album (the name of which >changes depending on whether I look at her web page on her label's site, or >the cover) _Advance Music_ or simply eponymous. Curious. The depths of the Ectophiles' Guide files indicate that both Cyoakha and Meth have mentioned her in the past, both in positive terms. - --Neile, feeling a bit like an archivist np: from the choirgirl hotel nr: just finished Connie Willis' _to say nothing of the dog_ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #147 **************************