From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #131 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, April 27 1998 Volume 04 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- For FireSign Theatre fans only [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: crimson/bjork/stochansky/keinig/larkin From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: crimson/bjork/stochansky/keinig/larkin At 11:51 AM -0700 4/25/98, Dave Williamson wrote: > The answer I've heard expressed most often from females when they hear > this style of music (and say they hate it) is the lack of a clear > melody, and complaints about the fluidity of the bass line. [...] Where does Kate Bush fit into the latter half of this theory? - Neil K. [] Anyone heard about Seven? [Yngve Hauge ] Re: Imax and Jonatha (was :Not exactly in Jill's league but..) [Richard <] my little spree at Strawberries [roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves)] Shawn Colvin concert.....and another CD binge [Riphug ] another new york times article [woj spice ] Re: another new york times article [David Dixon ] Re: another new york times article [David Dixon ] Re: another new york times article [woj spice ] Tori in Boston [Michael Curry ] Re: Shawn Colvin concert.....and another CD binge [Sherlyn Koo ] Fallen prey... [JavaHo ] Re: Gender Music [jjh969@juno.com] chris botti [woj spice ] Re: Hugo Largo? [woj spice ] Message from Lynn Canfield [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 01:40:09 -0500 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: For FireSign Theatre fans only Hi, With apologies to those without the memories: on Deep Space 9 Quark said to Odo, "I came here to talk about a missing shipment of groat clusters!" I laughed out loud!!! bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 03:00:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** **************** Matt Adams (matt.adams@wmcmail.wmc.ac.uk) **************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian May 03 Taurus Joe Dembski Wed May 07 1952 Rumple Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus John Warren Mon May 08 1961 Taurus - the Ox Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Miss Megan Celia Koster Sun May 14 1978 Taurus Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 05:49:12 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: Re: crimson/bjork/stochansky/keinig/larkin From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: crimson/bjork/stochansky/keinig/larkin At 11:51 AM -0700 4/25/98, Dave Williamson wrote: > The answer I've heard expressed most often from females when they hear > this style of music (and say they hate it) is the lack of a clear > melody, and complaints about the fluidity of the bass line. [...] Where does Kate Bush fit into the latter half of this theory? - Neil K. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Williamson wrote: > The answer I've heard expressed most often from females when they hear > this style of music (and say they hate it) is the lack of a clear > melody, and complaints about the fluidity of the bass line. [...] Neil K. wrote: > Where does Kate Bush fit into the latter half of this theory? i've been thinking about this rhythm thing. it's hard for me to step outside of my own ecto prejudices, but the odd rhythm doesn't explain joni mitchell, either. she often switches time signatures multiple times during a song and often plays in 6/8 and other non-4/4 sigs. i'll never forget when she appeared on jay leno and he began the interview by saying something like, 'all the women i knew in college loved your music' - it was one of the stupidest opening interview comments i'd ever heard. joni herself has said something about women being geared to hear higher frequencies, like babies crying, but i don't know if i buy that. since i'm a woman whose taste is equally made up of male and female artists, i can't figure out why some women listen only to women. or why king crimson doesn't go over with my sex. barbara np: nusrat fateh ali khan, mustt mustt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:23:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Anyone heard about Seven? Hi, Finally back from the deep level of ecto-silence. I was pretty amazed when I discovered that I had 900 mails from ecto to read :) What I wanted to know is - Has anyone on the list heard about the Polish band Seven? They got an album out (that I haven't heard obviously as it is not available outside Poland me thinks). I heard the singer personate Sinead O'Connor yesterday, and she did a very good job. *hugs*, - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:06:09 -0500 From: Richard Subject: Re: Imax and Jonatha (was :Not exactly in Jill's league but..) Paul communicated: > Jonatha bashed on Portland, ME at the concert here in Annapolis, MD on > wednesday too...she was miffed, almost pissed, that a pair of special rose > tinted sunglasses of hers had been stolen right off the stage...i'd guess that > she probably had some other bad experiences before her show that caused > her to > have a bad attitude during and after it...she was fun and goofy and pleasant > at the MD show... I think that sucks that some miscreant stole her glasses, which she didn't take off and put down on the stage until 1/3 of the way into the set, but she had a hair across her ass from the moment she walked onto the stage.. She mentioned dinner earlier at Katahdin, one of the most overrated restaurants here, so maybe it was gastroenteritis, but it still left a sour taste in my mouth. A professional entertainer just don't give the virtual finger to a packed house that's turned out to see her, no matter how much she hates her hotel room or the weather or whatever, you know? That said, I *still* love her music and think that _10¢ Wings_ may be the best pop album of 1997. r n.p. nothing- spouse is sick of all the ecto CDs I brought home.. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 11:10:21 -0400 From: roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves) Subject: my little spree at Strawberries Hey, so I went up to Boston again yesterday and found an even better deal at my favorite Strawberries. This time it was 10 cd's for 10 bucks, along with various other deals. Naturally, I pulled a Jill :D and absconded with 16 CD's and 6 cassettes. On CD: Merrill Bainbridge, the Garden Star 69: Eating February Abra Moore: Sing TLC: On the TLC Tip Liz Phair: Whip Smart Just say Roe Patti Smith: Horses The Best of Billie Holiday Philip Glass: Songs from Liquid Days (featuring lyrics by Suzanne Vega, David Byrne, Paul Simon, and Laurie Anderson, as well as some vocals by the Roches) Danielle Dax: Blast the Human flower Cheryl Wheeler: Driving home Bananarama: True Confessions Anonymous 4: Love's Illusion Anonymous 4: English Ladymass On Cassette: Sondheim: A Celebration at Carnegie Hall (2 tapes) Tanita Tikaram: Eleven Kinds of loneliness Tanita Tikaram: Ancient Heart Consolidated: Play More Music (they just amuse me, Okay?) Aimee Mann: Whatever Maria McKee Total cost paid: $44.60. My concertgoing buddy made off with some Zoe, completed his Anonymous 4 collection, some old Motown classics, Suzanne Doucet, and other funky stuff that I missed out on. We play finders keepers when we go CD hunting together. So far he's gotten away with Laurie Freelove's Smells like truth (out of print, grrr.) and the Innocence Mission right under my nose. Argh. Now, before anyone rushes out to Strawberries to get CD's for a dollar each, I did hear the employee get berated by his manager as we were leaving for giving us the wrong deal, apparently the 10 for 10 deal was for cassettes. However, it seems to me like the cassette selection is pretty equal to the CD's which have been pretty picked over at this point. I'm sure they'll get new stuff soon, though. EWS at Strawberries: All of the fun of being Jill :D, none of the guilt. I love being an ectophile! - --Kay np: Aretha Franklin's Greatest Hits nr: stacks of books on Mapplethorpe for my Midsummer design. - --------------------------------------------------- Kay S. Cleaves, Brown University Production Ass't/Press, Misnomer Dance Theater ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 11:43:15 EDT From: Riphug Subject: Shawn Colvin concert.....and another CD binge I don't understand why people will pay to see someone in concert....and then just stand around, not watching the performer, but drinking beer and talking loudly the whole time! Last night my husband and I went to see Shawn Colvin at Bogart's in Cincinnati. We were in line about a half an hour before the doors opened, so we were in a pretty good position to get good seats. Well, I made the mistake of leaving my husband in line and going across the street to Wizard's to look at their used CD section. (More on that later in this post.) When I got into the theatre, I looked for my husband at the tables in the back (where he said he'd get seats), but he wasn't there. I went farther forward and spotted him at a table along the side......To make a long story, short....whoever had the stupid idea to put tables along the side should be fired! There were people standing up in the aisles so that it didn't matter that we actually got to sit down for the show......we couldn't see a thing if we had remained sitting where we were. So after opening act, Ana Egge (a pleasant surprise), was finished with her set, we took our chairs to the elevated back of the theatre. We could see very well from there (especially since I had brought along my handy-dandy binoculars), but we soon realized that it was the absolute noisiest place to be! People (including Bogart's employees) were talking so loudly that we couldn't hear Shawn's between-song patter. We were very much disappointed in the whole concert......although Shawn did a wonderful job singing lots of popular favorites and came across as very friendly. Oh, and I purchased Shawn's "Live '88" album as well as Ana Egge's "River Under the Road" at the concert. I'll be seeing Jonatha Brooke/Marc Cohn/Kacy Crowley at the same venue this coming Friday and will be *sure* to get there early enough to get unblocked front-row seats! Ok......on to the treasures I found at the used CD store. All of these were either $1.00 or $4.00 with the exception of two bootlegs I found. Kristen Hall - Fact and Fiction (I have her "Be Careful What You Wish For" and didn't realize that she had a previous album.) Blackgirls - Happy (even though I recently bought "Procedures" and haven't listened to it yet) Long Fin Killie - Valentino (I think I might already have this and haven't listened to it) Fem 2 Fem - Woman to Woman (I enjoyed their contribution to "Lesbian Favorites") Niamh Parsons - Loosely Connected (never heard of her, but she's on Green Linnet and was described as Celtic.....only $1.00 to take a chance) Anuna - Invocation (I have lots of Celtic stuff, but none of theirs....it was about time) "The Paper" - Soundtrack (music by Randy Newman for only $1.00) Lori Carson - Shelter (I seriously can't believe that I came across this treasure for only $4.00! I've never seen this before anywhere....and had totally forgotten that she had made another album prior to "Where It Goes." I listened to it this morning and was sooooo pleased! She even does a cover of Paul McCartney's "Junk.") Dave Matthews Band - Riverbend, Cincinnati 6/22/97 (I had seen this bootleg before, and decided this time to buy it since my husband and I had been at that concert last year......pricey -- $39.95 -- but it's two CD's.) Sarah McLachlan - Unplugged & Wired (This is a Guy Smiley Records bootleg/ import I'd never seen or heard of and consists of seven acoustic tracks from an Autumn '95 performance in NYC.....and nine electric tracks from a Spring '95 performance in Toronto.) Well, that's the report.....off to listen to more music..... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:04:38 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: another new york times article the following article appeared in the april 25, 1998 edition of the new york times, page b14 in the arts & idea section. For Female Expression, The Virility of Tori Amos By Ann Powers Tori Amos took steroids before introducing her new album, "From the Choirgirl Hotel", at Irving Plaza Thursday night. "I'm losing my mind up here," she said after the majestic crescendo that is the climax of the ballad "Northern Lad". The drugs, she explained, boosted her voice, which is suffering from overwork. Whatever contribution they made to Ms. Amos's euphoric stage presence, her real source of power was grounded in her new musical approach. In her seven years as the wizard queen of alternative rock, Ms. Amos has never toured with a band. Her concerts generally featured her alone at the piano. Her highly sensual relationship with that instrument amplifies the feeing she shares her ardently devoted fans: this former child prodigy has long told her secrets to those ivories, and she uses then to send her intimacies outward. Her new songs, however, employ a more expansive sound. She needs accompaniment to complete them. Any questions about whether a conventional rock setup would dilute Ms. Amos's idiosyncratic art were erased the moment she took her place between her piano and synthesizer. Her band -- Steve Caton on guitar, Jon Evans on bass and Matt Chamberlain on drums -- was already cultivating a raucous noise. Ms. Amos let the band support her as she played both keyboards and experimented with vocal techniques, her patented high wails giving way to grunts and syncopated phrasings. A hard-rock element has always been crucial in tempering Ms. Amos's sometimes frilly tone, but on Thursday night she let her virile side dominate. Those steroids were not as strong as the musical arrangements showing the influence of sharp-edged bands like Garbage, as her as the classic art-rock of Peter Gabriel and "Scary Monsters"-era David Bowie. She also incorporated modern funk; her affinity with Prince showed, and during "God", she vamped on "You Dropped Me Like A Bomb" by the Gap Band, substituting "Jesus" for the song's obligatory "Baby". Through all these turns, the band gave Ms. Amos room to move while still challenging her. Reworking old material or trying out her bold new work, Ms. Amos stayed true to her mission: the pursuit of a fully female expression as intense as the heroic rock of bands like Led Zeppelin. This quest takes Ms. Amos into the realm of goddess-oriented legends, but also into a common sexual and emotional history. She has built a mythos of the parlor, the parked car and the basement room, charting the rhythms of womanly sensuality to suit lyrics about orgasm and childbirth, human loss and spiritual ecstasy. Now she is giving greater rein to the masculine side women also possess. Her zeal for this new heroic labor was palpable and potent. It wasn't just the drugs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:34:52 +0200 From: David Dixon Subject: Re: another new york times article >"God", she vamped on "You Dropped Me Like A Bomb" by the Gap Band, Uhh.. shouldn't this be, "You Dropped The Bomb On Me"? Just goes to show, even the New York Times ain't fallible, as anyone who's seen the movie "Hype!" knows. D^2 ====================================================================== David Dixon (D^2) dixon@qt.tn.tudelft.nl Department of Applied Physics, Delft University of Technology This week's bon mot: "What did Lil' Orphan Annie have in common with Caravaggio? No pupils." ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 21:50:43 +0200 From: David Dixon Subject: Re: another new york times article At 09:34 PM 4/26/98 +0200, you wrote: >>"God", she vamped on "You Dropped Me Like A Bomb" by the Gap Band, > >Uhh.. shouldn't this be, "You Dropped The Bomb On Me"? > >Just goes to show, even the New York Times ain't fallible, as anyone who's >seen the movie "Hype!" knows. Uhh.. shouldn't this be, "infallible," D^2? Sheepish D^2 ====================================================================== David Dixon (D^2) dixon@qt.tn.tudelft.nl Department of Applied Physics, Delft University of Technology This week's bon mot: "What did Lil' Orphan Annie have in common with Caravaggio? No pupils." ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:19:17 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: Re: another new york times article also sprach David Dixon: >>"God", she vamped on "You Dropped Me Like A Bomb" by the Gap Band, > >Uhh.. shouldn't this be, "You Dropped The Bomb On Me"? oops! my typo! i spell-checked and quickly proofread, but not closely enough, i guess. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:13:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Tori in Boston [I wrote this for precious-things, please excuse any list-specific references.] Hi all, Yesterday I went to see Tori's show at the Avalon in Boston, so here's a little something about the experience. Let me start by thanking Heather (aka Glitter Girl) for offering me her extra ticket, for driving into Boston and for tolerating me for the entire very, very long day. Thanks again Heather! Heather and I got to the Avalon not long after 5am so we were 14th in line. In case it wasn't said by enough people last night (including Tori), Brian did an excellent job of keeping thing organized the entire day. Spending the entire day in line is much less onerous when you know you can leave your spot in line to go get food or hide from the weather (the weather forcasters in Boston are idiots btw) and it will still be there when you get back. The truck with Tori's equipment arrived early, followed later by the crew bus, but the real excitement didn't start until Tori's bus arrived not long after 3pm. A rush to reach the hastily erected barricades began as soon as the bus rounded the corner and by time it was parked quite a crowd had gathered. Unfortunately, as soon as Tori came out and started to meet the fans those people toward the back of the crowd decided it was worth crushing those of us closer to the front in order to get a few inches closer to her. Tori seemed a bit frazzled to me, but she moved quickly along the line, signing various things, exchanging a few words and giving out a few hugs and a kiss or two. Once Tori had gone inside it was back to the line, and not too long after 5pm the doors opened and we began filing inside. I got a good spot in what was roughly the third row center, and being fairly tall I had an excellent view. Then as more and more people piled into the club the pushing began, as some of those who couldn't be bothered to get down the the Avalon early in the day attempted to push their way into the crowd from the sides and rear. Since the show wasn't scheduled to start until 6:30 we got over an hour of pushing, shoving and crushing, highlighted with the occasional threat of violence. When reading the reviews of some of the previous club shows I had been rather surprised by the reports of fights and such, but when I was up in the front of the crowd actually being crushed myself I got a better understanding of why things like that had been happening and I find it hard to blame some people for snapping. Just after 6:30pm David Poe took the stage. They say the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference, and that's how I felt about David. So far I haven't seen one opening act for Tori that I've liked, and this guy continued the streak. Yes, he got heckled and shouted at, but as I commented to one of the people I was crushed up against I think the crowd would have been more polite if we hadn't been standing around being crushed for so long. Basically I just found David Poe to be really, really boring. His voice isn't very good, his guitar playing is average and his songs aren't especially well written. Once he was finally done there was more activity on stage as the various techs took care of all the last minute chores. While this was going on the fog machines that seem to haunt every Tori show got started, filling the air with mist to prepare it for the light show that was to come. Just before Tori and the band took the stage I was wondering if the show would be worth all the time spent on the street outside and the time spent standing and being crushed inside. Then the show actually started and by halfway through the first song I knew that it had been more than worth it. The band really rocked, and though I'd say that the only one Tori has a genuine rapport with at this point was Caton the other guys did a great job as well. Of course I had trouble tearing my eyes away from Tori to watch her bandmates play, but with Tori on the stage there's no need for theatrics from any of the other players anyway. Tori was, as always, Tori. She was absolutely brilliant! Her voice was in good shape and she seemed to me to be really into the performance. I was close enough (and tall enough) to enjoy a few of the moments when Tori looks right into your eyes while she plays and they were as breathtaking as ever. As for the songs themselves, though I was a little apprehensive about the new album before the show all my doubts are gone now. The new songs are amazing, with the standouts for me being "Jackie's Strength" and "Northern Lad". Whether I like those two because they are truly better than the other or just because they seem more Tori to me is of course an open question. I guess I'll find out once I get the album. The new arrangements of the older songs were awesome too. "Horses" seems much darker in the new version, and I like it better this way I think. "Precious Things" is great with the band, and I think the long drawn-out "grrrrrrrrrl" sounds a lot less overdone (which was my impression of it on the last tour) with the band. The standout though is "Tear in Your Hand", which though I had always liked it had always been sort of a second-stringer. The band version is several orders of magnitude better than either the album version or live versions of the song that I've seen Tori do in the past. Anyway, in case you haven't seen it yet, here's the whole setlist: Black Dove (January) Cruel Horses Precious Things Liquid Diamonds Jackie's Strength Northern Lad Baker Baker Upside Down Doughnut Song iiiee Tear in Your Hand Waitress 1st Encore: She's Your Cocaine Spark 2nd Encore: God Merman "Spark" didn't impress me nearly as much as I had expected it to, as I thought several of the other new songs outshined it. On the other hand, I thought the unexpected "Merman" was even more brilliant than I had thought it was after hearing the mp3. Overall it was an absolutely stunning show, and well worth the effort I put into being there. Since this might well have been the last time I get to see Tori perform (since I can't even imagine going to see her in some gigantic venue like Madison Square Garden or some football stadium) I'm glad the last show was possibly the best show I've seen. The only way the experience could have been improved (besides of course a better opening act) would be if some Tori fans had taken the time to be less selfish and more considerate of their fellow fans. Mike | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:22:24 +1000 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin concert.....and another CD binge Hey folks, Jill said: >Kristen Hall - Fact and Fiction (I have her "Be Careful What You Wish For" and > didn't realize that she had a previous album.) Two, actually - the first is "Real Life Stuff", which I believe you can still order through Daemon Records at http://monsterbit.com/daemon (I could be mistaken, don't have time to check right now). "Real Life Stuff" is an excellent, excllent stripped-down folk album, my favourite Kristen Hall album in fact. After RLS came F&F, then BCWYWF. There's also a "Bootleg Demo" tape called "Thumbprint" that was released (I think) last year, I believe you can also get that through the Daemon Record site... I seem to recall hearing something about either a new album or a second bootleg-demo cassette coming sometime soonish, but I can't really remember much of anything right now so I could be mistaken. I think Kristen's living in LA now, writing songs for movies or something, but I could be making that up too... Howzabout that for a post full of vague nothingnesses? :) sherlyn also =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When I look around I think this, this is good enough, And I try to laugh at whatever life brings. 'Cos when I look down, I just miss all the good stuff, When I look up, I just trip over things..." - Ani diFranco ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:56:30 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: Re: Philosophical Question. also sprach Greg Bossert: >i have two categories: cds-and-vinyl-in-the-shelves, and >cds-and-vinyl-stacked-on-the-floor. greg, of course, forgets to include the music-under-the-cats sub-category. there is also the music-in-the-desk-at-work-so-certain-people-do-not-realize-how-many-cds-i-bo ught-in-the-past-year category, but i think that only applies to jill and dave steiner. ;) woj n.p. projekct two -- space groove ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:57:47 EDT From: JavaHo Subject: Fallen prey... ...to the evil influence of Jill :D and EWS. I don't buy a lot of CD's, but I just splurged (well, for me anyway) and picked up a few: Blue -- Joni Mitchell Hunger -- Janis Ian Charity of Night -- Bruce Cockburn Eli and the Thirteenth Confession -- Laura Nyro Don't Smoke in Bed -- Holly Cole Trio I'm afraid that Ms Rhodes will be temporarily displaced in my CD player at work. Gotta hear these things! BTW, my daughter and I attended a performance of _A Midsummer-Night's Dream_ by the Kansas City Ballet this afternoon. We were the guests of an actor friend who was the narrator for this production. The first words he spoke were, of course, "Over hill, over dale, thorough bush, thorough briar..." No surprise that Ecto was the CD of choice for the ride home...:) Later friends...Java n.w. Merlin...wonder if it will live up to the hype? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 19:16:54 -0400 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Re: Gender Music Was there not a time when women weren't permitted to play the drums ??? ********************************************************************************************** Paradise Sound The Sound Choice For Choice Sound ParadiseSound@juno.com ----- 718-850-2300 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/triadmedia/sound.htm On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 15:47:55 -0700 "Neil K. Guy" writes: >At 11:51 AM -0700 4/25/98, Dave Williamson wrote: > >> The answer I've heard expressed most often from females when they >hear >> this style of music (and say they hate it) is the lack of a clear >> melody, and complaints about the fluidity of the bass line. [...] > > Where does Kate Bush fit into the latter half of this theory? > > - Neil K. > >-- > t e l a computer consulting + design * Vancouver, BC, Canada > phone: (604) 254-1002 * email: tela@tela.bc.ca > web: http://www.tela.bc.ca/tela/ > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:13:43 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: chris botti also sprach Neal Copperman: >I had some ideas of what sort of noise >Bruford/Levin/Torn would make, and they pretty much delivered on that, but >Chris Botti on trumpet was completely unexpected. meredith and tamar looked at me funny when i told them, but i think the sound of his trumpet playing (trumpeting?) is very much like david sylvian's voice: smooth, calming, relaxed. very lovely. i thought he was a great addition to the bruford/levin/torn line-up as well. >Anyone heard any of his solo stuff? well, i'm still listening to _midnight without you_ (1997 release on verve) right now ($2 find at smash, during the great help-yves-spend-money fest a couple weekends ago) and it's good. the music is mostly light jazz/pop which is pleasant, but not terribly engaging. his hornwork (ah! good word!), though, makes it a keeper. woj n.p. well, you know p.s. believe it or not! i'm actually caught up on ecto! woo hoo! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:06:58 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: Re: Hugo Largo? also sprach Neal Copperman: >I saw Hugo Largo twice at the 8X10 Club in >Baltimore, and either one of those shows would make it onto my top 10 list >of all time best shows I've ever been to (with probably 50 other shows!). >It was both compelling and frightening, and seemed genuinely dangerous. a-yup. the only time i managed to see them was one of their last shows. it was april in 1991 at the (old) knitting factory. i was late because of the subways and on the verge of breaking into a serious fever, but managed to make it just as the first song finished. the combination of their lightly-unsettling music, mimi's on-stage antics and my delerious state was devastating: by the time the show was over, i was in physical and mental pain...but, man, was it ever an incredible show! i'm really looking forward to mimi goese's solo record. she performed at bryter layter -- the nick drake tribute concert last year. it was broadcast on wfuv, so recordings of it exist (in fact, i have a dub, if anyone is interested). >I was quite surprised to see Hahn Rowe again some years later, making >equally scary noises at almost as disturbing a show by Foetus, Inc. >(Don't worry, they don't sound anything like Hugo Largo.) the first time i heard hahn rowe was with a band called bosho. back in ye olde college daze, some friends and i were down in new york for a college radio conference. we blew off most of it. one of the things we did was just go to the knitting factory and see whomever was playing that night. it was bosho: hahn rowe on bass and violin, yuval gubay (i think) on drums and a diminutive japanese woman screeching at the top of her lungs. noisy as hell, but another great show. it was like a jet plane landing in your brain. wow. so, it's not really a surprise that hahn was involved with foetus (another amusing story: was at maxwell's to see babe the blue ox and a drunken (surprise) jim thirlwell walked up to me, rambled something that smelled of stale whiskey, poked my chest a few times and ambled off somewhere else. ah, the lifestyles of the rich and famous!) woj n.p. chris botti -- midnight without you ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 23:37:56 -0500 From: Neile Graham Subject: Message from Lynn Canfield For anyone curious about what's up with Lynn Canfield, I just received this from her today. I guess this means M7x is unlikely to do much more. Alas. - --Neile N.R. Russell, _Children of God_ (interesting, but it's not _The Sparrow_ which I had some problems with anyway. Still worth reading, I think, though.) N.P. Silence. Ah..... >From: Canrain1 >Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 20:52:47 EDT >To: neile@sff.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: moon7times > >Dear Neil: >Just finished reading your comments on the Moon Seven Times and Area records, >and I appreciated them. Projekt will be rereleasing the first two Area CDs >this July, and they were excited about them yesterday. Brendan and I, drummer >and singer and main songwriters from M7x, have been working on a new project >called Shotgun Wedding and will have a website with soundbytes up soon on >Prairienet and hopefully get around to releasing the stuff on disc soon. >Since recording twenty some songs, we have put together a live group that >we're really into right now, so we're playing some shows and recording with >them. Anyway, thanks for your interest in our previous stuff. Peace. -- Lynn >Canfield > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #131 **************************