From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #108 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, April 7 1998 Volume 04 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Grey Eye Glances concert review 4/4 [Matthew Woods ] Re: Ecto probably knows...(Re: goth talk) ["Xenu's Sister" ] Fwd: STRAWBLIST APRIL STRAWB DATES [Riphug ] Incommunicado for a couple of days....... [Riphug ] Re: Boston House Concert Invitation [Michael Curry ] Io Shows [Neile Graham ] Tori @irving Plaza [Ariana@excelsior.net] sarah at the oakdale [meredith ] loreena and veda and why i hate chuck ;> [meredith ] SMOE.ORG LIST MEMBERS PLEASE READ: fund raiser to keep smoe.org running :-) [Mike Connell Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ***************** Brion McIntosh (filmcut@westworld.com) ****************** ***************** Marcel Kshensky (mundopax@ingress.com) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Heidi Heller Mon April 08 1974 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Jerry Tue April 13 1971 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Angelos Kyrlidis Fri April 22 1966 Taurus Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Pablo Iglesias Thu April 23 1964 Positive Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian May 03 Taurus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:19:31 -0400 From: Matthew Woods Subject: Re: Grey Eye Glances concert review 4/4 >(Matt, delurk sometime, eh?) Alright, already. Hello Ectophiles, I exist. I just find myself too busy to keep up with mailing lists except sporadically, and thus am somewhat prone to lurking. Kay has kept me fairly well informed about this one tho. :) I just want to clarify that I was not "dragged" to the GEG concert. Kay had only to lend me their cd and I was quite eager to join her. They are quite a cool band and I highly recomend them as another person who is into ectoish music. Regards all, -Matt _ _ |"\ _____ /"| | \\-"""""""-// | \ """""M""""" /The being PURRRsonaly responsible for this /~<0>\"W"/<0>~\CATastrophic email message is none other than: __-----_\"/_-----__ ___-----+*+------___ Matt Woods -- __----'-^-`----__ -- -- /""""\___/""""\ --- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 03:34:07 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Ecto probably knows...(Re: goth talk) At 01:23 PM 8/3/98 -0500, Xenu's Sister wrote: >Calling on Ecto's Collective Knowledge: Thanks so much to Patrick and Lawrence for answering Doug's question about the Garbage song, and thanks also to Jack Sutton for the information about the Dax video (which I will definitely buy). I knew Ectophiles would come through, you guys are great!! Nice too that it was Doug Alan's questions that got answered by Ecto, since Ecto probably wouldn't exist if not for Doug. (For newer Ectophiles, I mean that he started the Kate Bush list/newsgroup Love-Hounds/rec.music.gaffa in 1985. Ecto was born from LH/rmg when talk about Happy got to be too much there.) Thanks again! Vickie Lisa McPherson Memorial Page http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/lisa.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 03:45:51 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Ecto probably knows...(Re: goth talk) At 02:09 PM 4/3/98 -0600, Owen L. Magee wrote: >Actually, this isn't an answer to your question, just a note that the >date on your machine is way off (or at least whereever your mail is going >through). The two messages you've posted to the list have had dates of >August 1 and August 3. (Interestingly, the August 1 post was about >Katemas, which is supposed to be on August 1!). Ooops, sorry, I was checking out my computer's calandar to see what date would be best to have the Katemas party on and I forgot to change it back until your post. Thanks for saying something or else I might not noticed for quite a while. Vickie Lisa McPherson Memorial Page http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/lisa.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 05:02:09 -0400 From: dave Subject: Re:Grey Eye Glances concert review 4/4 Okay, no sooner do I say they haven't anounced a name for the upcoming Grey Eye Glances CD when they go and do so.. it will be called Painted Pictures. roo posted: > The basic three were there, plus a drummer and an electric guitarist that > they stuck in the back who looked like he really didn't belong there at all. > He sounded great, though. That would be Brett Kull on guitar, fantastic player, he does kinda look like he'd fit in better with a Southern Rock group though . Yeah, he belongs there.. although he also has his own band, Almost Always. and then: > Anyways, the new songs...Sleepy is about the friend that just wouldn't > leave. Kind of cute, with lines like "If you dont stop talking I might have > to kill you...". Upbeat, almost a country feel. Now this I have to hear.. I'd heard they changed it.. when I heard it in the past it was a very mellow, slow song. One last thing, I'm sure this has probably been noted here before, but since I haven't seen it since I've been here.. I came across a 15 year old copy of LIFE magazine, and while looking through a story on the rainforest I noticed a picture of a small white bat called 'Ectophylla alba' Thought that was kinda cool.. later dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:14:22 EDT From: Riphug Subject: Fwd: STRAWBLIST APRIL STRAWB DATES This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_891864863_boundary Content-ID: <0_891864863@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII If you have a chance to see the Wild Strawberries *live*......do it!!! Jill :D - --part0_891864863_boundary Content-ID: <0_891864863@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v40.16) with SMTP; Mon, 06 Apr 1998 07:44:27 -0500 Received: from helium.xe.net (helium.xe.net [204.187.105.5]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id HAA13390; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by helium.xe.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id HAA23570 for strawblist-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:39:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: helium.xe.net: majordom set sender to owner-strawblist@helium.xe.net using -f Received: from xenon.xe.com (xenon.xe.net [204.187.105.2]) by helium.xe.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA23565 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.187.105.51] (dialin21.xe.net [204.187.105.51]) by xenon.xe.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA26278 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:32:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: strawberries@xenon.xe.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:46:01 -0500 To: strawblist@helium.xe.net From: ken@strawberries.com (Ken Harrison) Subject: STRAWBLIST APRIL STRAWB DATES Sender: owner-strawblist@helium.xe.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: strawblist@helium.xe.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit WILD STRAWBERRIES ONTARIO/QUEBEC DATES Thursday April 9 Sheridan College, Oakville Friday April 17 The Embassy, London Saturday April 18 Wilfred Laurier Quad, Waterloo Thursday April 23 The Caberet, Montreal Friday April 24 Barrymores, Ottawa Saturday April 25 North Bay Wednesday April 29 The Guvernment, Toronto We'll likely be doing some instores in connection with these dates as I'm not sure how many of them are all ages. We'll keep you posted. Cheers, Ken wild strawberries http://www.xe.net/strawberries/ e-mail: strawberries@strawberries.com - --part0_891864863_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:56:39 EDT From: Riphug Subject: Incommunicado for a couple of days....... I'm about to head out the door........sans computer access .....leaving for Michigan to see Sarah McLachlan in concert on Tuesday night in East Lansing...... So, if you are expecting words or packages from me somehow, I'll be back Wednesday night.... Play nice, kids! Jill ;D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:09:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Boston House Concert Invitation On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Michael Curry wrote: > Once again proving that everything happens on the same weekend. In the > Boston area that weekend are: > > - Tori Amos at the Avalon > - Susan McKeown at Passim > - Merrie Amsterberg and Barbara Kessler out in Salem > - EDA Cafe 2 To be more specific, all of these musical events are taking place on 4/24. np: Tori Amos -- Under the Pink nr: One World, Ready or Not: The Manic Logic of Global Capitalism by William Greider | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:37:52 -0500 From: Neile Graham Subject: Io Shows Here's a list of Io shows for anyone interested. - --Neile >X-Sender: Steeple@world.std.com (Unverified) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:36:05 -0400 >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >From: Steeple@world.std.com (Peter Irvine) >Subject: Io Shows in L.A. and Springfield > >SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT >Two Io shows > >1) Al's Bar, Los Angeles, Sunday, April 19. Io plays at 10pm. > >305 S. Hewitt, Los Angeles >213-625-9703 > >Playing through borrowed equipment (anyone got an amp we can use?) and a >questionable sound system, the unstoppable Io will offer a mixture of >haunting melodies, sonic experimentation and the energy of three tight >friends determined to play music every day. >This event organized by a friend of ours, in the midst of a Cordelia's Dad >tour. We'll be one of four bands that night. > >2) Infinity, Springfield, MA, Friday, April 24. 18 and over. > >It's the finals of the WHMP-sponsored "Battle of the Bands". We were >dubious of the contest, but the local music scene is actually involved in >this event. In the semi-finals, we got to play with two great locally-based >bands, The Mitchells and Jesse Sterling Harrison. There are four bands in >the finals, and it promises to be a solid night of good music. > > >Io recently released a 7" single, from a forthcoming album recorded by >Steve Albini, in the USA and UK on Ferric Mordant Records. The single is >also available at shows on "home pressed" CD-R. D.I.Y.! > >The members of Io, Tim Eriksen, Peter Irvine and Cath Oss, also play in >Cordelia's Dad, Northampton Harmony, and Zabe i Babe. Io is a noisy, >original rock band. > >Io dates >April 11 Gold River High School, Gold River, OR >April 14 Reed College, Portland, OR >April 19 Al's Bar, Los Angeles, CA >April 24 Infinity, Springfield, MA >June 2 Pipeline, live radio show,WMBR-Boston >June 4 Bay State, Northampton, MA w/ Mitch Rasor, Jesse Sterling >Harrison >June 5 Stone Coast, Portland, ME w/Mitch Rasor, Lincolnville >June 6 Elvis Room, Portsmouth, NH w/ Mitch Rasor, Jack Drag >July 20-26 England tour, incl. Portland Arms, Cambridge on July 23 > >Peter Irvine > >Cordelia's Dad >and Io > >Cordelia88@aol.com >http://world.std.com/~steeple > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 1998 20:47:32 EDT From: Ariana@excelsior.net Subject: Tori @irving Plaza I forgot who complained about Tori playing at Irving Plaza but I agree. I didn't even know when tickets went on sale because I am no longer on the other lists. But I just couldn't see myself camping out to buy tickets especially since I am coming from Queens. Part of me is disapointed that I am not going but the other part of me says why the fuck is she playing Irving Plaza. I just don't get it. I thought if any place like the previous person said Town Hall would have been great. But why Irving Plaza. I can't picture seeing Tori standing room only. And I heard that when Paula Cole played there the seats were extremely uncomfortable. I have seen a few people there and enjoyed them when my feet were not hurting me and the crowd was not crushing me. Oh well maybe I'll get to see her when she does the 'real' tour. Not that I haven't seen her before. I have. Oh well at least there is Ani. And lately I enjoy Ani live much more than Tori. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:54:13 From: meredith Subject: sarah at the oakdale Hi! Okay, so it's been almost a week -- I guess it's time to post something about Sarah McLachlan's show in Wallingford, CT last Tuesday night. :) The show was neither more nor less than I'd expected. Lisa Loeb sucked (woj summed her music up with the worlds "utterly banal"), the crowd was overwhelmingly pubescent, and it was basically _Fumbling_ tour redux. Still, I enjoyed myself quite a bit, and I'm very glad I went just that once. Sarah was in fine voice, and I was pleased to see that she's grown her hair out a bit: she looks more like _Touch_-era Sarah now than Liza Minnelli, which can only be a good thing. She and the band managed to pack a hell of a lot of music into just under two hours: a main set almost devoid of between-song chatter was followed by two full encores. Before the show we ran into Michael Abram, who some of you may know from the fte or trajectory lists, who had driven up from Brooklyn for the event, and he said there were 22 songs in the set list, but I didn't keep track. That sounds about right, though (if anyone has a set list for the show, I'd appreciate a copy). The show consisted of mostly material from _FTE_, with the stronger tracks from _Surfacing_ stuck around the edges and the old standbys, "Vox", "I Will Not Forget You", and "The Path of Thorns (Terms)" thrown in to remind of her earlier days. (To the credit of the junior-high-schoolers surrounding us, I didn't hear one cry of "what is this?" when she played her older stuff. :) The highlight of the show was the latter half of the main set, in which a total of 7 songs segued seamlessly into one another, one after the other, without a break anywhere in between. If I get a set list, I'll post the chunk of song titles here -- some of it was unexpected in its brilliance. However, a religious experience it was not. Sarah and the band just seemed to be going through the motions. I found myself having flashbacks to the shows from the Fumbling tour, wishing I could step into a time machine and be at the Lincoln Theater or Count Basie Theater instead. The Fumbling show was brilliant, but you'd think in three years she could come up with a new shtick. I mean, they even have the same light show this round! She needs to ditch the band and jump into a van with Ash and Camille, and drive around North America doing unnanounced gigs at places like CB's Gallery. Oh well. It was still good to bask in her voice again. Tamar appears to have begun subscribing to Rolling Stone, and the latest issue arrived in the mailbox today. Since she's not home, I read it. :) Sarah's on the cover, and there's a pretty good article inside. Recommended even if you're not all that big on her any more, as I am. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:01:03 From: meredith Subject: loreena and veda and why i hate chuck ;> Hi! Chuck posted: >Tickets for Loreena McKennitt at Radio City go on sale tomorrow (April 3) >at noon!!! Oh gee. Since I read that on April 5, I guess I'm SOL, huh? :P >Anyone going?..... meth??? ;-) Apparently not. Looks like I'm stuck having to go see Veda Hille play at CB's Gallery that night. :) >Joe and I saw/spoke with Sarah M. and Lisa Loeb tuesday night at Oakdale >(we didn't see any other ectophiles in attendance! where WERE you >folks???) Outside with the cattle, where else?! Where did you end up sitting? I saw a couple of guys who looked like you and Joe right smack up front, but I didn't want to believe it could be you, so I didn't. (If it was you, please lie.) >We had so much fun that we set up a rendezvous at the shows this weekend >in Buffalo and Rochester...reviews of all three will be forthcoming... Oh sure. Let's hear all about the limo rides, and the soup, and and and ... you didn't happen to notice a copy of _RhodeSongs_ in her personal effects, did you? (I'm becoming more and more convinced that Chuck gets these backstage passes to Sarah shows just because he knows how much of a rise he can get out of me by telling me *all* about it afterwards. ;>) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:42:06 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: SMOE.ORG LIST MEMBERS PLEASE READ: fund raiser to keep smoe.org running :-) Hello everyone on the Happy Rhodes mailing list :-) Some of you may know me, many don't. My name is Mike Connell and I manage the Jewel and Patty Griffin lists here at smoe.org. My purpose for writing you today is to ask for your assistance in a project/fund raiser to help keep smoe.org up and running for many more years to come. A gentle bloke by the name of Jeff Wasilko owns smoe.org, and while he does have a merry band of smoe-elves to help him in various tasks in operating the system, Jeff has always paid the operating costs (NOT a small penny) and of course had paid for the expensive equipment it presently runs on. He's always offered this service for free since day one....no user fees....no list owner fees...totally free :-) Many of your favorite artists and their fans have benefited from this service as smoe.org hosts lists for such artists as Happy Rhodes, Paula Cole, Jewel, Patty Griffin, Tori Amos, Thomas Dolby, Poe, Susan Werner, Leah Andreone, Lucious Jackson, Maria Callas, the Indigo Girls, Shawn Colvin and many, many more. Some of these once unknown artists, and more to come I'm sure, had their internet presence begin right here at smoe.org :-) For a complete list of which artists have mailing lists hosted at smoe.org, you can go to http://www.smoe.org/lists At the present moment Jeff is looking into replacing the hardware smoe.org operates on with more modern equipment, as the present workhorses are a pair of seven year old SUN Sparc stations. Being seven years old is pretty much dinosaur age in computer terminology (smoeasauruses?), and these systems are acting older than their age. This replacement is necessary to get newer and better equipment in place before the present smoe.org falls down and goes boom permanently, leaving the lists at smoe.org temporarily without a home :-) As you might imagine, this replacement is going to cost a pretty penny. On other list servers this would be no problem, as money would be used from the user fees. 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I thank you all in advance :-) Mike "Once a bell ringer, always a bell ringer" Connell :-) ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #108 **************************