From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #95 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, March 25 1998 Volume 04 : Number 095 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Marriage [Krys ] Re: Little Plastic Castle [Laur & Damon des Jumeaux ] imbruglia/difranco [BarBearUh ] Re: imbruglia/difranco [Riphug ] selected TV stuff for Tuesday, March 24th [Riphug ] Re: ani talk [Riphug ] Natalie Imbruglia [00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu] Suddenly, Tammy! released from their contract [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: Marriage ["J. Wermont" ] Non-ecto announcement... ["We're all in it together." ] Re Little Plastic Castle [Andrew ] Merrie Amsterburg Stuff (fwd) [Michael Curry ] Reminder-CLB Friday night in LA 3/27/98 [ABershaw ] Re: OAC - Sunday afternoon at Borders [McPhile ] Re: Non-ecto announcement... ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Yet another Lilith-inspired tribute project [Richard ] Innocence Mission News? [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:41:55 +0000 From: Krys Subject: Marriage Dear Ectophiles, I read Jill's recent contribution, and Java's response regarding the subject of marriage. Here are my thoughts. Although I don't agree with all that Java or Jill said, I do think there are some merits in both views. I think both were saying you should find yourself and *know* who you are and what you want, so that you have the strength to remain true to yourself. This holds water in many situations besides marriage. I know that it is a common belief that people somehow become less themselves if they marry or co-habit - men get the blame for women losing themselves, women get the blame for men feeling stifled. Yet this is one negative view and, as someone once said to me, the blame game helps nobody. It does happen, sure I've seen it but I think it is the fault of both parties for not putting enough effort into themselves (first and foremost) and then each other and the relationship. Cohabiting and commitment does not mean you stop trying. If you go through life, all of it or a part of it, with another person then if it goes wrong you have the choice to do something about it - sometimes it means leaving, sometimes it just means you've lost the communication and are at cross purposes, and a little talking can sort it out. Sometimes you just have to accept you made the wrong choices *but* it is important to move on and not harp on the past. I've had a pretty turbulent life one way and another, and it is only in the past year that I have finally found my strengths by facing up to who I am. I'm about to get married, first time; I'm 39 this Autumn. Part of me would have loved to have met my partner 20 years ago, but if I had we'd both have been different and maybe it would not have worked. It is the living of life that has brought us to this point where we know who we are. For us, this works and we are tremendously, peacefully happy. I guess my final thought is that each person should follow their own heart, do what they want and not what others tell them to do. Be true to yourself and you will find what it is you seek. Thanks for the bandwidth. Love and peace, - -- Krys XXX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:59:15 -0800 From: Laur & Damon des Jumeaux Subject: Re: Little Plastic Castle Hullo again! Just thought I'd try to clarify what I wrote yesterday. (Two posts in as many days! Wull!) At 00:08 22-03-98, meredith wrote: >>The lyrics on this album are *so* strong. And each song really makes its >>own point, presents a complete idea and doesn't stray off into some other >>line of thought. > >That describes my personal fave, _Not A Pretty Girl_ to a T. _NAPG_ is >still one of my Desert Island Discs, and I don't see it falling off that >list anytime soon. Do check out _Imperfectly_ (heck, no Ani fan should be >without any of her albums :), but please keep in mind that _NAPG_ contains >to my ear similar arrangements to _Out of Range_, with a bit fuller sound, >and crisper production. This is true. NAPG is a later album, and as such has better production. I guess what I was referring to was the "spirit" of the album. To my mind, NAPG is much *harsher* than Out of Range or Imperfectly, in terms of the music and lyrics. Though this is not a bad thing--NAPG was the first Ani album I was exposed to and I love it to death--I just find that I get different feelings from it than I do from the other two. But that could just be me. I find that all the songs on Imperfectly also are "self-contained", not straying from their lines of thought, and there are some really beautiful images and ideas. It is an earlier album, and so it's not as "produced" as NAPG, but I don't find that to detract from the album's appeal. Anyway. Enough from me. :) - --Laur - -- CHEZ JUMEAUX: Gourmet vegan restaurant.. Les Jumeaux jumeaux@pobox.com ...or just two silly jums? - Damon damon@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~jumeaux/ - Laur laur@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:26:29 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: imbruglia/difranco Dan wrote: > Yup, Natalie Imbruglia, who sounds a lot more like Lisa Loeb than Tara > MacLean to me. An Australian TV soap star who moved to L.A. after spending > some time in England pursuing acting and singing gigs. The song on all the > big stations is Torn, written by former Cure member Phil Thornalley. Damn > hard not to like it! i'd agree about the song, but there's something about her that makes me suspicious. i really liked sheryl crow and alanis morrissette on the first few listens, but grew to despise them. i have that sneaky feeling about her - that it might not bear repeated listenings. i saw the 'torn' video on 120 minutes a few weeks ago, and thought, 'she's gonna make it'. last week, i saw it on MTV or VH1 at a closer to primetime hour. another week or two, and she'll be unmissable! Joyce wrote: > The Ani album I really love is Out of Range. I don't hear people > mentioning that one too much, but I think it's a dynamo of a CD. I haven't > heard Dilate or Living in Clip (but I don't tend to like live albums > that much - you get neither the energy of being there live, nor the > benefits of a studio production). I just find the songs on Out of Range > to be intense, lyrically powerful, and musically interesting. The lyrics > on Little Plastic Castle are clever and poetic as usual, but don't have > the same narrative drive as those on Out of Range - instead, they seem > to meander from one subject to another until I'm not sure just what the > point of the song is. give LPC a bit more time. it didn't grab me initially, but i've become addicted to it, something that's never happened before with an ani record for me. 'out of range' was, to me, the first record she made that wasn't a total disappointment. she seemed to be getting a better hang of being in the studio, and that seems to have improved record by record. the first time i heard ani was at a show, so nothing ever lived up to seeing her perform, especially those pre-OOR records. you should give 'living in clip' a try. i am also not fond of live discs - they have worse sound than studio records, and can't recreate being there. ani is an exception. altho i'd say you don't feel like you were there listening to it, she is so much better live than on record that at least you get some of the energy from the disc. there's a less contrived, forced feeling to that record than any of her studio efforts. for me, her best stuff is 'living in clip', then selected songs from 'dilate', 'not a pretty girl' and 'little plastic castle'. i like those three about evenly - certain songs really stand out. overall, LPC is the most listenable for me - i don't get sick of putting it on repeat. 'swan dive' may be my favorite songs of hers ever, especially the line "i've got better things to do than survive". it seems very narrative to me - she's struggling with fame, for sure. BTW, this month's 'musician' mag features ani - she's on the cover. barbara np: LPC ps. thanks to whoever posted info on the forthcoming jeff buckley album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:52:37 EST From: Riphug Subject: Re: imbruglia/difranco In a message dated 3/24/98 7:39:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, barbearuh@erols.com writes: << give LPC a bit more time. it didn't grab me initially, but i've become addicted to it, something that's never happened before with an ani record for me. >> My favorable opinion of LPC was formed after listening to only the first minute or less or each track on the album. I hope to find time soon to listen to it all the way through! My first reactions were that Ani sounded a little less *angry* on this latest CD (even though her lyrics often contradict that idea). She sounded (please don't flame me for this) a little more *feminine*. By that, I guess I mean that her songs were a little more *tuneful*.......but there were still several of those songs where she does that fast little guitar thing with not a whole lot of melody (know what I mean?) As a result of following this Ani discussion, methinks I should spend more time on my Ani albums. I am giving "More Joy, Less Shame" to a friend.....and I wasn't impressed at all with "Imperfectly." "Out of Range" was my first Ani album, so I guess that has always held a special place in my heart......I haven't given "Dilate" enough time, I suppose, but really enjoy "Living in Clip." I get the impression that she'd be very entertaining in a live performance! ;-) Knowing that you all care, Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:59:08 EST From: Riphug Subject: selected TV stuff for Tuesday, March 24th 8:00 pm EST FOX - TITANIC: BREAKING NEW GROUND (Repeat) - Unreleased scenes from ``Titanic''; interviews with cast and crew; exploring the undersea wreckage; new perspectives on the catastrophe 9:00 pm EST WB - DAWSON'S CREEK (Repeat) - "Dirty Dancing" - Dawson is jealous when Jen dates; Tamara and Pacey have their first kiss. VH1 - HOLLYWOOD & VINYL - "Titanic" - 9:30 pm EST VH1 - WOMEN FIRST - "Music and Movies" - 10:00 pm EST COMEDY - VIVA VARIETY - Robin Leach; musical guest Pizzicato 5 11:35 pm EST NBC - THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO (Repeat) - Kate Winslet; Burt Reynolds; skater Michelle Kwan. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:09:05 EST From: Riphug Subject: Re: ani talk In a message dated 3/23/98 11:10:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, elan@access.digex.net writes: << Also, there is no info on the ani/Utah Phillips colaboration. >> Neal, you can quote anything I write -- not that any of my comments are all that profound..... All I can say about the Ani/Utah Phillips CD is that I got rid of my copy quite soon after I purchased it. I know that I didn't give it enough time, but on first listen it seemed to be nearly all Utah's singing......maybe Ani's music.....but definitely *not* enough Ani for me to keep it. And here I thought I had eclectic taste in music..... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:28:26 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Natalie Imbruglia You know... I kind of like her cd, though, just because it's *so* different from what I usually listen to... This is a very general, unsupported statement (no time right now), but after awhile most of the people I listen to sort of all run together...y'know? I mean, they're all very different, but it starts to get really old after awhile..I bought this cd and Madonna's "Ray of Light" cause I needed change in a big way, and I like them both. Sure, Natalie's is pretty overproduced and some of the lyrics are generic, but I like to dance to some of the songs when I'm in a bad mood or whatever, and... I don't know. I personally think "Smoke" is a cool song... and "Big Mistake," too... But, that's just me. I'm sure I will probably tire of this disc soon... Who knows. Jessica, off to class :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:13:22 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Suddenly, Tammy! released from their contract - -----Forwarded message from Keith Abbott ----- Subject: The new album Well, it's hard to say when the new CD will be out according to the higher ups with ST! Why? because they've been released from their contract with Warner Brothers. Thank God I say! Warner Bros were never really sure what to do with them and it surely hasn't helped the band. Their management company is currently searching for a deal right now for the new CD which is complete (for the most part). It may only be a one-time deal, but who knows. Personally, I'd love to see them on Spin Art again as they did a wonderful job for them. That's the scoop though. Hopefully I will be able to tell you more in the next few weeks. Keith _______________________________________ Keith Abbott, President Abbott Promotions P.O. Box 35558 Richmond, VA 23235 Tel/Fax (804-897-2324) Email: Sunday@infi.net http://www.infi.net/~sunday/index.html ________________________________________ - -----End of forwarded message----- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Wermont" Subject: Natalie and Chantal I bought the Natalie Imbruglia CD because so many people on the newsgroup rec.music.alternative.female raved about it for months (How did they hear it, anyway?? It just came out a couple of weeks ago!). Well, I was completely unimpressed, it just did nothing for me. So back I went to the record store for an exchange (that's when I picked up Little Plastic Castle). I bought Under These Rocks and Stars by Chantal Kreviazuk (I spelled that from memory! :)) at the same time, and I love that album - especially the songs Surrounded and Co-Dependent. In some places, Chantal's singing style is similar to Natalie Imbruglia's. In fact, I think there's an epidemic of that style of singing: Chantal, Natalie, and Holly McNarland. Is it some kind of Alanis-wannabe thing? Chantal has some other things up her sleeve, though. Sometimes she sounds a bit like Sarah M (in Surrounded, when she sings "So don't you lo-o-o-o-ose sight of me now"), other times she reminds of Cheryl Crow. Despite these borrowings, she has a genuine emotional richness that I think is her own. On a totally non-ecto note, has anyone heard of a band called "Cool for August?" I happened to be hanging out at a listening station and, never having heard of them before, gave the CD a listen just for the hell of it. I ended up buying it - it just captured me. There's nothing ecto about it - it's good old-fashioned, big-sound white-boy rock, lots of anthemic melodies and crashing guitars. But it's the kind of stuff I grew up on and I just love it. Anyone else? Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:59:58 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Wermont" Subject: Re: Marriage Krys wrote: > Although I don't agree with all that Java or Jill said, I do think there > are some merits in both views. I think both were saying you should find > yourself and *know* who you are and what you want, so that you have the > strength to remain true to yourself. I don't think it's as black and white as all that. Sometimes I think people get a little extreme in their beliefs that you should have it all together, be a totally strong person, before you enter into an intimate partnership with someone else. But if we all waited for that, many of us would never even have relationships. It's certainly possible to continue growing as a person within a relationship - in fact I think that sometimes people can get stronger *because* of a relationship. We went from one extreme - the idea that the right person would come along and save this lonely, pathetic person and give them fulfillment and meaning in life, to the opposite extreme belief that all strength comes from within, and you can't possibly love another until you completely love yourself. Reality is most likely somewhere in between. True, no one else can "save" you from your problems, but that doesn't mean people can't help each other and give each other valuable tools, nor does it mean you stop being an individual when you commit to someone else - you can still do your own work on yourself whether you're partnered or alone. I wish I could think of some appropriate ecto song lyrics to help make this post more relevant to the list, but oh well, I can't. Joyce np. Chantal Kreviazuk, Under These Rocks and *Stones* (I said "Stars" in my last post, where I bragged about spelling her name right...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:17:53 -0500 From: "We're all in it together." Subject: Non-ecto announcement... Here's one of my twice-a-year ecto posts, and of course, there's no ecto content. :( But I know some long time ectophiles will be interested in this news, since there was a time when I was a more prolific poster... Kevin John Sandoval was born last Tuesday 3/17 at 11:28 AM. He weighed 7 lbs, 14 oz. and is 20 1/2 inches long. Both mom and baby came through the delivery fine and are now at home. We're still getting used to our new arrival, but it's a great experience. If you'd like to see a photo, go to: http://www.clark.net/pub/sandoval/baby.html Oh, I can add some ecto content. :) Kevin's first concert was the Happy/Project Lo show we went to last year at the Orion Studios in Baltimore. Sure, he was still in utero, but he probably heard the music pretty well from in there. :) John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:26:33 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Subject: Re: Marriage On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, J. Wermont wrote: > I wish I could think of some appropriate ecto song lyrics to help make > this post more relevant to the list, but oh well, I can't. May I suggest: http://www.wagill.com/bill/thehawk.html and http://www.wagill.com/bill/imalive.html - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:23:30 +1000 From: Andrew Subject: Re Little Plastic Castle On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Neile Graham wrote (about Little Plastic Castles): >It hasn't caught me yet--mostly because I've only listened to it about 3 >times. It's got some pretty serious competition for space in my disc >player. I just got Margot Smith's _Taste_ and it's a knockout. I also got both of these albums pretty much at the same time, and I ended up playing Margot Smith a lot more often... it is pretty amazing. As for LPC, somehow it doesn't grab me, and that's despite the fact that I just saw and really enjoyed Ani's live performance... I'd love to tell you how much I hate the mariachi band, but words simply fail me. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it! Especially because the title track would be a great song otherwise... - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- No more imagination, there's role to be played go to work and be milked like cattle everyday Human stables hold the herd, office stalls filled with stock the system keeps you docile by promising the weekend off... "Masses like asses", Def FX Visit my site devoted to little-known Australian bands... http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:57 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Curry Subject: Merrie Amsterburg Stuff (fwd) Some Merrie Amsterberg news and tour dates... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:39:37 -0500 From: Jessica Smyser Subject: Merrie Amsterburg Stuff Hello all, happy spring! Merrie has been nominated in the Best Local Folk category of THE BOSTON PHOENIX/WFNX BEST MUSIC POLL. Please vote if you get a chance. There are ballots in the weekly Phoenix or, even better you can VOTE ON-LINE...we love that. The address is below. Now, I've been told that if you know what you're doing you can just click on this address and go right to the site, but if you're a little slow like me you can just copy it. http://www.bostonphoenix.com/cgi-bin/bmp1998.pl While you're at it and if you are so inclined, please put a vote in for Merrie's Q Division label-mates The Gravel Pit, they are nominated for best local rock act and Jed Parish is nominated for best local male vocalist. Now...TOUR DATES! * THIS FRIDAY, March 27 The Lizard Lounge 1667 Mass. Ave Cambridge, MA w/ Senor Happy 2 Sets $7 the music starts at 10pm 617-547-0759 COMING UP IN APRIL * Monday, April 20, Metropol 1600 Smallman Pittsburgh,PA w/ PAULA COLE 7 PM $15 412-261-2232 * Tuesday, April 21, Grape St. Pub 105 Grape St. Philadelphia, PA w/ Paul Camberis & Jennifer Teft 10 pm $3 * Wednesday, April 22 Community Theatre 100 South Street Morristown, NJ w/ PAULA COLE 8 pm $27.50/23.50 201-539-0345 * Thursday, April 23 Beacon Theatre 2124 Broadway New York, NY w/ PAULA COLE 8 PM $27.50/$35.00 212-496-7070 * Saturday, April 25 Universal Coffeehouse 211 Bridge St. Salem, MA w/Barbara Kessler 7:30 $10 978-927-8822 * Sunday, April 26 Lupo's 239 Westminster St. Providence, RI w/ PAULA COLE 7 pm $15 401-831-4071 **************************************************************************** Please Visit our web site at http://www.qdivision.com **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:14:28 EST From: ABershaw Subject: Reminder-CLB Friday night in LA 3/27/98 Hi Ecto & Jewel list folks in the Los Angeles area, Just another reminder about Cindy Lee Berryhill's final Garage Orchestra gig this Friday night at Genghis Cohen in Los Angeles. Genghis Cohen is located at 740 North Fairfax in Los Angeles. Phone at the club is (213) 653-0640. I'm sworn to secrecy, but Cindy Lee has a surprise or two in store for this gig. ;-) I highly recommend anyone in reasonable distance make this show. You won't be sorry! Wish I could join ya, MrBB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:27 EST From: McPhile Subject: Re: OAC - Sunday afternoon at Borders In a message dated 98-03-23 07:46:03 EST, Riphug@aol.com writes: << McKinley - Big*Top*Shop*Talk (discussed on the ecto mailing list and even better than I had hoped for! Check her out! >> Hoo hoo!!! PDX singing-type chick. Heh heh. You rock, Jill. toodles Doug (with hometown issues) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:37:12 -0500 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: Non-ecto announcement... John (and Jenn) wrote: > Here's one of my twice-a-year ecto posts, and of course, there's no > ecto content. :( But I know some long time ectophiles will be interested in > this news, since there was a time when I was a more prolific poster... so modest! He leaves out the fact that the proud parents hosted one of the Biggest Mid-Atlantic Ecto Gatherings Ever, many moons ago! > Kevin John Sandoval was born last Tuesday 3/17 at 11:28 AM. mazal tov!! So when is *this* Kevin going to pick up an e-bow? jeff np: _Ray of Light_, Madonna nr: _Children of Beowulf_, Barnes/Niven/Pournelle - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | moving to jburka@cqi.com -- come say hi | |http://www.cqi.com/~jburka | at the new digs...now up and running! | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:34:40 -0500 From: Richard Subject: Yet another Lilith-inspired tribute project Found this in the Jonatha Brooke folder on AOL, for what it's worth.. > Subject: Fan Book (long post) > Date: Thu, Feb 26, 1998 7:34 PM > From: Vashdom > Message-id: <19980227003400.TAA14815@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > Hi All! > > Do You have a favorite woman musical artist? Has she touched you in some special way (maybe her music has helped you make a decision or maybe she has put your deepest feelings or longings into song). Would you like to tell her just how much she means to you, just how much she has specifically influenced you? If so, then you are invited to share your story for possible inclusion in the book (tentatively titled): If I Could Only Tell You: A Tribute To > Women In Music. For this labor of love, please use the following guidelines: > > Contribution Guidelines: > 1. Include your full name, mailing address, telephone number, and e-mail address. Sorry, but only the original author may submit an entry. > 2. If you are sending your entry via e-mail, please DO NOT send it as an attached file. Just type the text in the e-mail. > 3. Please limit your entry to no longer than 3-4 pages in length. > 4. Feel free to include photos of the author (taken with the woman musical artist). > 5. On the back of the photos, please print the following: > a) The names of all the persons in the photos (left to right order). > b) The full name, mailing address, telephone number, and e-mail address of the person who took the photo. PHOTOS CAN ONLY BE USED IF THERE IS A SIGNED RELEASE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHER. > c) What date the photo was taken. > d) Where the photo was taken (city, state, country, etc.). > 6. All authors will be notified of receipt of their entries. If you submit an entry and don't receive confirmation of this, please e-mail me....I may have not received your entry. All entries not used will be returned to the author. > 7. All accepted entries will be edited for length and form. > 8. A permission form for accepted entries will be sent to each author along with an edited version of their entry. The author retains the copyright of their entry and gives Vashdom Publishing permission for One Time Use of their work. ENTRIES CANNOT BE PUBLISHED WITHOUT A SIGNED PERMISSION FORM. > 9. Compensation for each entry includes: > a) $10.00 permission fee to be paid to each author prior to the publication date. > b) 2 complimentary copies of the book sent to each author after publication. > 10. The deadline for submission of entries is May 1, 1998. Entries sent in early have the best chance of inclusion due to the volume of entries received. > 11. Please send entries (questions or comments) to: > vashdom@aol.com (using the subject of fan book, or something like that) > or > Vashdom Publishing > 4325 13th Ave. SW #212 > Fargo, ND 58103-3309 > USA > or > FAX: (701) 282-8542 > > Please pass this along to anyone who might be willing to put their story in writing. Remember, this is a labor of love....feel free to put your heart on paper (or e-mail) for this tribute to women musical artists who have given so much of themselves in their works. Thanks for participating! > > Respectfully, > Pauline, Publisher > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:35:34 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: ani difranco on letterman friday night. bb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:19:13 From: meredith Subject: Innocence Mission News? Hi! Reading the news about Suddenly, Tammy! getting dumped from Warner Bros. reminded me of something Mila Drumke told me the other day -- I'm not sure if this has been brought up here already, and if it has, my apologies for the repetition. I'm assuming it's not just a rumor, because Mila said she heard it from Karen Peris and I don't think she would lie. :) Apparently Innocence Mission have been dropped from their record label (I don't even remember which one they were on ... Geffen? Capitol? I'm drawing a complete blank). They are strongly considering putting their next album out themselves, but nothing's for sure yet. I hope they can get something figured out soon. If anyone has more info on this, please pass it along ... P.S. Public congrats (following up on the private congrats :) to John and Jenn Sandoval! Another homegrown ectophile joins the family. 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