From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #83 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, March 13 1998 Volume 04 : Number 083 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Jennifer Kimball CD and tour Information! [Riphug ] "Songs For Friends & Lovers" mix tape -Reply [Christopher Gagnon ] Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY [ABershaw ] Re: Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY [lvermeer@gpu] Re: "Songs For Friends & Lovers" mix tape -Reply [Bill ] Re: Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY [Justin Bur <] Re: Dayna Manning and friends on CBC [Dan Stark ] NYC - Reminder [jjh969@juno.com] Re: "Songs For Friends & Lovers" mix tape -Reply [Jeff Wasilko ] CBC missteps (was re Dayna Manning and friends on CBC) [Philip David Morg] Re: CBC missteps (was re Dayna Manning and friends on CBC) ["Joseph S. Zi] Custom CDs - a first report [Philip David Morgan ] [sib@sheeba.ca: SIBERRY pipeline #2 - 3/12/98 - AUCTION #3 - PINK MARIA BUSTIER] [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: Dayna Manning and friends on CBC ["Neil K. Guy" ] Ani diFranco on JJJ in Oz, today (NIGC) [Sherlyn Koo ] Re: Custom CDs - a first report ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:00:14 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Matt Bittner (mbittner@juno.com) ********************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 P.T. Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Michael Pearce Wed April 03 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:25:40 EST From: Riphug Subject: Re: Jennifer Kimball CD and tour Information! Some of you have asked for further information about Jennifer Kimball, so I thought I'd just go ahead and post it to my three favorite mailing lists. ;-) Jennifer's *Official* home page is at www.jenniferkimball.com -- you can listen to sound samples from her EP there. It also links to FolkWeb (www.folkweb.com), where you can purchase her EP, "Demo". Artist: Jennifer Kimball Title: Demo EP Catalog Number: 6 Price Per CD: $10 Shipping: $2.00 Jennifer also appears on the "This is Boston, Not Austin Volume 2" compilation CD, which is available through Eastern Front Records (www.easternfront.com). So there you go! Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:33 -0500 From: Christopher Gagnon Subject: "Songs For Friends & Lovers" mix tape -Reply I noticed your song list included Diana Krall. Somehow I managed to not have ever heard of her before last Thursday night, when I previewed her latest release at a listening station at Borders. I was floored by her voice and inflection, and couldn't believe I'd not been exposed to her sooner. What do folks here know about this smoky jazz siren? I'd like info before springing for a disc. Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:11:10 EST From: Paul2k Subject: Re: diana krall Here's what i've gleaned from some newspaper interviews and an article in Newsweek... Diana Krall is in her early 30's..was born and raised in Nanaimo out there on Vancouver Island in the Pacific Northwest...studied jazz piano from an early age...went to Berklee College of Music in Boston and studied piano there...dropped out and started playing in bars, lounges, etc...i think she moved back out west...started attracting the ears of other jazz peoples...and started to sing after awhile...she has at least 3 albums out, the second of which is a tribute to Nat King Cole...she has a very sultry voice and is an amazing pianist...i saw her on October 1st, 1996 at the Iron Horse (my birthday present from myself to me) and the house was packed and she gave a phenomenal performance. She was also on this year's grammy broadcast, singing some jazz with an ensemble in a tribute to sound recording... Paul Kim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:41:20 EST From: ABershaw Subject: Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY Hi to all (but specifically to Canadian Toronto & Alberta area Ectophiles), This Sunday two Canadian radio stations will be broadcasting the recording of Jewel's recent (February 5th, 1998) "secret show" at Legends at The Strathcona Hotel in Victoria, British Columbia. This was an "invitation only" small intimate gig & Jewel's only full length show so far in 1998. The setlist was as follows: Don't A Boy Needs a Bike Cold Song Morning Song Stranger Enter From the East Who Will Save Your Soul Sometimes It Be That Way Satellite Pieces Of You You Were Meant For Me Foolish Games Near You Always Angel Standing By Encores: Amen Fragile Flame Brother (aka Nikos) Here's the info: There will be an evening broadcast of this concert this SUNDAY 3/15/98 at 8:00 PM on CHFI FM, Toronto, Ontario There will be an afternoon broadcast of this concert this SUNDAY 3/15/98 at 4:00 PM on CFRV/The River FM in Left Bridge, Alberta I'm in New England, USA so I don't know the frequencies of these stations. Tape it & spread it around! :-) Best wishes, Alan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:41:43 EST From: ABershaw Subject: MrBB-Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY Hi to all (but specifically to Canadian Toronto & Alberta area EDAs), This Sunday two Canadian radio stations will be broadcasting the recording of Jewel's recent (February 5th, 1998) "secret show" at Legends at The Strathcona Hotel in Victoria, British Columbia. This was an "invitation only" small intimate gig & Jewel's only full length show so far in 1998. The setlist was as follows: Don't A Boy Needs a Bike Cold Song Morning Song Stranger Enter From the East Who Will Save Your Soul Sometimes It Be That Way Satellite Pieces Of You You Were Meant For Me Foolish Games Near You Always Angel Standing By Encores: Amen Fragile Flame Brother (aka Nikos) Here's the info: There will be an evening broadcast of this concert this SUNDAY 3/15/98 at 8:00 PM on CHFI FM, Toronto, Ontario There will be an afternoon broadcast of this concert this SUNDAY 3/15/98 at 4:00 PM on CFRV/The River FM in Left Bridge, Alberta I'm in New England, USA so I don't know the frequencies of these stations. If you are in Toronto or Alberta, please post this information for your fellow EDAs in the areas capable of recieving the broadcast. Tape it & spread it around! :-) Best wishes, MrBB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:48:17 -0800 From: Bill Subject: Re: diana krall At 12:11 PM 98/03/12 -0500, Paul2k wrote: >Here's what i've gleaned from some newspaper interviews and an article in >Newsweek... >Diana Krall is in her early 30's..was born and raised in Nanaimo out there on >Vancouver Island in the Pacific Northwest... Wow!!! I was there just last weekend, and will probably will be there again this weekend. I should go look for her house and take pics... *GRIN* - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:59:11 -0700 From: lvermeer@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Leslie Vermeer) Subject: Re: Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY >There will be an afternoon broadcast of this concert this SUNDAY >3/15/98 at 4:00 PM on CFRV/The River FM in Left Bridge, Alberta That would be "Lethbridge, Alberta"...regrettably, there is *nothing* "left" about this province! :) Thanks for the info. laV, in little red edmonton ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:56:08 -0800 From: Bill Subject: Re: "Songs For Friends & Lovers" mix tape -Reply At 09:40 AM 98/03/12 -0500, Christopher Gagnon wrote: >I noticed your song list included Diana Krall. >[snip] >What do folks here know about this smoky jazz siren? I'd like info before >springing for a disc. I have "All for You - A dedication to the Nat King Cole Trio". What I like about this album is that it has a good variety of jazzy/uppity songs and saultry/torchy ones. She also has another newer disc titled Love Songs (or something along those lines) which seems to be popular, but I do not have it, so couldn't comment on it. I also saw a few (three maybe?) earlier discs at A&B Sound, probably more piano stuff before she hit it "big" with ther singing in the Popular Jazz front. - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:16:56 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Bur Subject: Re: Jewel Secret Show Radio Broadcast in Canada THIS SUNDAY CFRV Lethbridge is 107.7 CHFI Toronto is 98.1 justin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:42:33 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Re: Dayna Manning and friends on CBC At 09:53 AM 3/12/98 -0500, James McGarry wrote: > >Well,... ...I loved it! Dayna was really on. ... >SOme of the "offstage" bits were funny Hmm, did we really watch the same show? It made me want to break out the Kraft cheese, it was so corny! Anyway, I really liked Dayna's main stage set at Toronto Lilith in the summer, but I thought this show made her look average at best. Then again, I have the same opinion about her CD - I think she has some growing to do both musically and vocally. Or maybe I'm just not a big enough fan of that folky style of hers. I'll be interested to see how she develops. Back to the subject of bad production values for a minute, how can the CBC possibly justify being so far behind in their technology, in both radio and TV? Sure they've had their budget cutbacks, but they still have way more financial resources than private broadcasters who are able to do things right. Specifically, the fact that their TV network is essentially the last one in North America to still broadcast in mono is inexcusable in my opinion. The same goes for their "Radio One" network, originally CBC-AM but now with stations on FM in many markets. This is even worse, because besides broadcasting in mono on the FM band they also use a narrowband signal with an audio frequency response cutoff point of 7.5 kHz - if they're going to do that they may as well just stay on AM! For the network that devotes so much of is time to cultural and musical content, CBC should be the first, not the last to upgrade to a quality signal - especially considering how many private stereo broadcasters they shut out every time they win a new dial position in a market to duplicate their existing service. CBC spends a fortune on producing their shows, and then they cut corners on their transmission system so the public can't hear the quality of those productions - there are some priorities seriously out of line there! >Big Rude Jake @ The Loop (Windsor) April 1 (new band!) I've heard of these guys, for quite a while, actually. But I can't remember what they sound like. Swing perhaps? Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:29:48 -0500 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: NYC - Reminder FYI - NYC Local Folk, Michelle Kinney 830 PM The Living Room in NYC. 84 Stanton St. 212.533.7235 Wish I could go. Damn Work ! John _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:55:22 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: "Songs For Friends & Lovers" mix tape -Reply On Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 10:56:08AM -0800, Bill wrote: > I also saw a few (three maybe?) earlier discs at A&B Sound, probably more > piano stuff before she hit it "big" with ther singing in the Popular Jazz > front. Actually, all of her CDs are of a similar style (jazz)... - -Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:47:49 EST From: Spbarker Subject: re: happy rhodes :) Paul2k wrote: >Album in may.......tour....mmm.....tour....will the tour be outside of the >philly/NY area? ;) Even better, a tour ouside the Unites States area for those ectophiles scattered around the globe. Wishful thinking, probably. Spb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:19:32 -0500 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: CBC missteps (was re Dayna Manning and friends on CBC) Hello, Dan et.al. > ...[H]ow can the CBC possibly justify being so far behind in their technology, > in both radio and TV? Sure they've had their budget cutbacks, but they still > have way more financial resources than private broadcasters who are able to do > things right... (Re Radio One, formerly CBC Radio, which is botching up its move to FM:) > ... For the network that devotes so much of is time to cultural and musical > content, CBC should > be the first, not the last to upgrade to a quality signal - especially > considering how many private stereo broadcasters they shut out every time they > win a new dial position in a market to duplicate their existing service. CBC > spends a fortune on producing their shows, and then they cut corners on their > transmission system so the public can't hear the quality of those productions - > there are some priorities seriously out of line there! It would also help if they think about what should['nt] be on Radio One... I still remember when singer/songwriter/playwright Marie-Lynn Hammond (yes, of Stringband fame) wrote to tell me that she and her CBC Radio (AM) show _Musical Friends_ were being dumped for talk fare à la _As It Happens_... if anything, her show deserved a FM slot and she should have stayed employed with CBC. Their recent reorganization makes them look like a dumb cross between BBC (in the network names) and National Public Radio (in the target audiences). If I want _As It Happens_ , I can sample them on RCI. But I don't want that. Canada - and good people like Marie-Lynn (now reduced to editing and movie extra jobs) - deserve better than that. Philip David 3/14/1998 (Purim) n.p.: _Soul_, debut CD by Neshama Carlebach (daughter of the late Shlomo Carlebach) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:46:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: CBC missteps (was re Dayna Manning and friends on CBC) On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Philip David Morgan wrote: > 3/14/1998 (Purim) Gut yontif! > n.p.: _Soul_, debut CD by Neshama Carlebach (daughter of the late Shlomo > Carlebach) n.p. _En Adir_, Ivo Perelman Quartet (free jazz musicians usually associated with Anthony Braxton playing traditional cantorial tunes and originals) - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:22:16 -0500 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Custom CDs - a first report Greetings! A while back someone on Ecto gave out the URLs for three custom CD companies - Musicmaker, superSonicBOOM, and CDuctive... I thought I'd do a quickie report on my first experiences with all three companies. Almost immediately, I need to say that all three companies' sites are best viewed with a graphic browser of the IE or Netscape variety (that would mean AWeb, iBrowse, or Voyager for our Amiga brethern). All three firms use RealAudio files. Take your time navigating thru each site, and don't buy anything on the first visits - give yourself time to familiarize yourself with everything. - --------- Musicmaker http://www.musicmaker.com Based in Vienna, VA. (home to America On-line). Perhaps the most "mainstream" of the three, with rock, jazz, blues, and easy listening dominant. Lots of material from the Fantasy labels (an exclusive Creedence Clearwater Revival listing, too!). The classical offerings are almost all from the Newport Classics label. (Dominick Argento and David Amran are among the few contemporary composers offered.) I ordered my first disc from them on a Sunday, and it arrived the following Saturday, glitch free. (One of the multi-movement works I ordered has one movement segue into another; the technology employed by all three firms inserts a one-second pause between tracks - a problem that I hope will be aired out one day.) superSonicBOOM http://www.supersonicboom.com/ Also based in Vienna, VA., but with more genres better represented than Musicmaker - ska, reggae, dance music, children's, world music, etc. (no classical offerings thus far). I was surprised to see some material from Madacy, Magnum, and TKO Licencing (no soundalike covers, mercifully). More importantly, this company seems especially receptive to hearing from regional artists - Bev Stanton (a/k/a Arthur Loves Plastic, who sampled some Susan McKeown for his _Diva II_ tape) is here. Perhaps some of the musicians here on Ecto could licence material to sSB, and really fortify their catalogue (Heather? Land of the Blind? Kevin & Happy??). My order (an all-reggae disc) was ordered on a Friday night, and arrived the following Wednesday. Due to a botch up, my disc started not with "Days ah come" by Omega, but with "Y.M.C.A."(!) and something from the Lyrichord catalogue (the source of sSB's world offerings thus far). I promptly sent it back with a polite cover letter (explaining the problem, thanking them for their prompt service, and asking them nicely to try again)... and the replacement CD (with the correct programme) came promptly and courteously (bless you, Julie MacKinnon, sSB's Chief Operations Officer). Now that's customer service. CDuctive (say it "c-ductive") http://www.cductive.com/ Great opening to their site (a snake curving itself into the outer circle of a CD, then raising its head and pushing out its tongue)... This firm (part of Group K) is based in New York City and specializes in trance, hip-hop, techno, ambient, and other related styles. But they don't assume that you know these genres well; their site actually provides some information about each, plus mini-biographies and information about the labels who licenced material (Ninja Tune, Swim, Asphodel, Made to Measure et.al.). Sampler discs are availible. Their site is probably the easiest to navigate (not so reliant on frames). Because I am close to them (I live out on Long Island), the disc I ordered on a Wednesday arrived that Saturday, glitch-free. For now, ambient and illbient seem to be my fave styles at CDuctive. I hope they'll load up on more of those (and maybe some drone material?). - -------- The prices on the CDs I ordered from each averaged to about $20 with shipping figured in. All three firms use the Post Office for shipments. You can custom-title your discs (Musicmaker and superSonicBOOM print the titles on the discs; Musicmaker also prints the titles of the individual tracks). Mitsui Gold recordable CDs seem to be the discs of preference (except at Musicmaker, which used a Kodak disc for my order). I see serious potential in custom CDs, if enough artistes, bands, labels, and customers come forward and support them...which is why you may have noticed that I CC'd this note to each of their contacts listed above. Both sSB and CDuctive have their share of exclusive tracks (read: not availible by any other means), and this might be something our Ectonian musicians might go for if they want it. Given the waste that's been going on at the majors, I say it's high time. Philip David 3/14/1998 (Purim) - -------------- Philip David Morgan Internet liaison for Diane Wolkstein, Storyteller Visit our pages at: http://www.li.net/~philipda/welcome.htm - ------------- "Life is like music - C# or you'll Bb!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:25:08 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: [sib@sheeba.ca: SIBERRY pipeline #2 - 3/12/98 - AUCTION #3 - PINK MARIA BUSTIER] - -----Forwarded message from SHEEBA Records ----- SHEEBA'S Third Auction: Auctioning collector's items "a-la-Siberry" is an idea I have come up with to raise funds for new works. It is my hope that through this kind of resourcefulness, SHEEBA can run on it's own steam without reaching outward for funding and returning home with compromises and an incredible amount of BS. Your comments on past auctions have been very helpful and I would appreciate more. Apologies for the twice postponement of the deadline of this auction. Also, anyone with knowledge of "Basic Principles of AUCTIONEERING": I'd like to put them up on a "PRINCIPLES OF" page on the website in the future. Now, I am very fascinated with auctions and watch "Auction Roadhouse" from England on t.v. every chance I can. "Yes, Mrs. Walsh, I have to tell you that the Grandfather Clock that has been in your family since before you can remember and that you have dusted weekly with the rest of your furniture is worth 5,000 pounds." She titters, embarrassed, looks around. "Gold"-framed Pink Bustier from the cover of "MARIA". Model not included. Bustier is arranged across a pale green silk background in a shadow box. Looks great with nice lighting. Label of bustier discretely says "Screamin' Mimi's!" where it was bought in New York for the photo shoot. To see photo and highest bid go to: http://www.sheeba.ca/bulletinboard.html DEADLINE: Monday, March 16, 1998 at 6pm EST. Bids will be put up as they come in on the website. quote from correspondent: "I feel you are exploiting your celebrity status in these auctions." quote from Ms. Siberry: "Yes! And finally it has a practical use." Best wishes, Jane Siberry http://www.sheeba.ca/ - -----End of forwarded message----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:27:56 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Re: Custom CDs - a first report At 03:22 PM 3/12/98 -0500, Philip David Morgan wrote: >(One of the multi-movement >works I ordered has one movement segue into >another; the technology employed by all three >firms inserts a one-second pause between tracks - >a problem that I hope will be aired out one day.) In this case, all three firms are using the wrong kind of CD writers. There are several manufacturers that produce CD writers using "Disc-At-Once" technology, which can produce a disc without that gap between songs. The inferior "Track-At-Once" technology puts a space between every track, and although some allow you to set that gap length to "zero", there will still be an audible blip as one track segues into the next. I'm very surprised these companies use the Track-At-Once type, since their business is all about producing audio CDs to order and this is a significant limitation. Perhaps they should all read the CD-R FAQ at: http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/FAQ.html Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:31:54 -0800 From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: Dayna Manning and friends on CBC (non Ecto post ahead :) At 1:42 PM -0500 3/12/98, Dan Stark wrote: >Back to the subject of bad production values for a minute, how can the CBC >possibly justify being so far behind in their technology, in both radio and >TV? Sure they've had their budget cutbacks, but they still have way more >financial resources than private broadcasters who are able to do things >right. [...] That is a very contentious statement. Government after government has cut back the CBC. Doesn't surprise me at all that their technological base is not as sophisticated as it could be. Especially at the radio end. Teevee - sure, they've made some bizarre priority decisions in the past (eg: sinking tons of money into the disastrous Ralph Benmurgui show) but radio's held together with proverbial bailing wire by comparison. I don't know where you get the bizarre idea that the CBC is rolling in money and private broadcasters are necessarily cash-strapped. The CBC is also mandated to do a lot of stuff private broadcasters don't have to - like broadcasting to isolated and economically marginal rural markets, doing time-delays on network broadcasts because of time zones, etc. > [...] The same goes for their "Radio One" network, originally CBC-AM >but now with stations on FM in many markets. This is even worse, because >besides broadcasting in mono on the FM band they also use a narrowband >signal with an audio frequency response cutoff point of 7.5 kHz - if >they're going to do that they may as well just stay on AM! [...] My understanding is that they only broadcast in FM to certain areas for technical or cost reasons. For example, in the BC Interior they tend to use small FM transmitters in mountainous regions to assure modest coverage of the Radio One (formerly AM) network. They never broadcast Radio One on FM in urban areas. Unless this has changed recently. - Neil K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:42:42 +1100 (EST) From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Ani diFranco on JJJ in Oz, today (NIGC) Hey everyone, My boss says that apparently Ani diFranco will be on the Australian radio network JJJ sometime this morning - ie sometime during the next 2 hours 15 minutes... JJJ also streams out over the Internet via RealAudio if anybody else wants to check it out, it's at http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/triplej.htm. :) sherlyn =-=-=-= Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig "And the best ones were the ones I got to keep as I grew strong, And the days that opened up until my whole life could belong. It's like getting the answers, when I don't need them anymore... I remember..." - Dar Williams, "The Blessings" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:47:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Custom CDs - a first report On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Dan Stark wrote: > In this case, all three firms are using the wrong kind of CD writers. > There are several manufacturers that produce CD writers using > "Disc-At-Once" technology, which can produce a disc without that gap > between songs. The inferior "Track-At-Once" technology puts a space > between every track, and although some allow you to set that gap length to > "zero", there will still be an audible blip as one track segues into the > next. We ran into this problem with the Comma CD -- we didn't know until it was too late to change things that the mastering facility that we were using could apparently only do Track-At-Once. Much of the CD is made up of continuous suites of 7 to 9 movements. We were figuring on the CD having some 30 distinct tracks, but it only has seven. On the Web site (http://www.artswire.org/comma/cd/) we have pages for each movement, as well as for each complete piece, composer, and other stuff, and time markings showing where each movement starts and ends. If I ever get a chance to breathe, we'll put in the control files for the Voyager CD-Link technology, which will directly address the smaller chunks of sound. - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:45:07 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Re: Dayna Manning and friends on CBC At 02:31 PM 3/12/98 -0800, Neil K. Guy wrote: > > (non Ecto post ahead :) >Government after government has cut >back the CBC. Doesn't surprise me at all that their technological base is >not as sophisticated as it could be. Especially at the radio end. Teevee - >sure, they've made some bizarre priority decisions in the past (eg: sinking >tons of money into the disastrous Ralph Benmurgui show) My point is that they have always gone over the top when it comes to production costs, the Ralph Benmurgi show being just one example. They won't hesitate to roll up to a bar in a transport truck containing the most sophisticated mobile recording studio accompanied by a huge staff to record a rock show, where any other broadcaster would take a soundboard feed and pair of stereo audience mics to do the same. Meanwhile, the only people who can appreciate it is the CBC crew, since the network won't upgrade the transmitters to reproduce this extravagant production in stereo. There is something fundamentally wrong there. > The CBC is also mandated to do a lot of stuff private broadcasters don't >have to - like broadcasting to isolated and economically marginal rural >markets, doing time-delays on network broadcasts because of time zones, etc. Well they already have the transmitters and satellites in place. I'm talking about sending out a stereo satellite feed instead of mono, and adding a stereo encoder to the existing TV and FM transmitters, at least in large urban areas. Every other network in North America has done this already, I don't think CBC has much of an excuse. If they aren't going to put a quality, stereo wideband signal on Radio One, why are they spending millions of dollars to move that service to FM in the first place? > My understanding is that they only broadcast in FM to certain areas for >technical or cost reasons. For example, in the BC Interior they tend to use >small FM transmitters in mountainous regions to assure modest coverage of >the Radio One (formerly AM) network. They never broadcast Radio One on FM >in urban areas. Unless this has changed recently. They have moved or are moving to FM in Toronto and Montreal, and have been on FM for many years in other cities (Charlottetown PEI and London ON come to mind from personal experience). Toronto already had one of the best AM signals in North America, a 50,000 watt, single-stick omnidirectional transmitter that covers hundreds of miles in every direction day and night. In mountainous regions, AM propagates better than FM, as it follows the earth's contour while FM bounces off solid objects and creates terrible multipath in the valleys. Again, it seems like the CBC has done things totally backwards. Anyway, I do not mean for this to turn into "tech talk". My point was simply that CBC seems to have misplaced priorities when it comes to production costs vs. the final product (transmission). Putting a quality signal on the air should be a top priority for _any_ broadcaster, _especially_ CBC whose content consists of so much meticulously produced, high-quality music. Look, they spent all that money putting that fabulous show with Dayna Manning on the air (ha), and then the hundreds of people across the country who watched it (jab) could only hear the music in mono. Doesn't make sense. Dan ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #83 *************************