From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #63 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, February 23 1998 Volume 04 : Number 063 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ummm.... [dave ] Re: Michelle Shocked et al [Neal Copperman ] Re: ummm.... ["Joanna M. Phillips" ] Re: embarrassing cd's [Heather Russell ] Missing Persons [Heather Russell ] Re: NJC/MCTAN: Brenda Weiler [Riphug@aol.com] folk implosion and lofi indiepop [pink ] Re: folk implosion and lofi indiepop [Neal Copperman ] Mary Lou [Rachel ] Imogen Heep [Paul Blair ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:05:20 -0500 From: dave Subject: ummm.... >Well, they were right! Just had a lovely chat on #ecto. Perhaps it >can be salvaged after all. > >- -Kay Which one? I guess we're going to have to be more specific when referring to #ecto now. On another note, I've been listening to a really great CD called 'Listen' by Cindy Morgan for the past few weeks. It's CCM, so that might put some of you off it.. but boy there's some really good songs on it. dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:17:38 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Michelle Shocked et al On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > Since I'm working on the ectoguide page for Michelle Shocked (it's almost > done, Neile), I need the information for the first release of _Kind > Hearted Woman_ and the greatest hits - which includes the proper name. > Can anyone help? In addition to the info that Jill posted, it's perhaps worth noting that the original release is spare and starker than the one on Private Music. It's just Michelle and electric guitar, while she gets to work with additional musicians later. Their contributions are pretty understated, but definitely there. She had said that that was more of how she invisioned the album, and was forced by monitary constraints to release the stripped down version first. The cover are is the same (the "kind hearted woman" hobo art, I guess), but the color scheme is reversed. Original is white with black lettering and drawing, while the re-release is blacke with white lettering and drawing. Neal np: Ella Fitzgerald sings the Ira and George Gershwin Songbook ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:44:19 -0500 From: "Joanna M. Phillips" Subject: Re: ummm.... > From: dave > Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 10:05 AM (snip) > On another note, I've been listening to a really great CD called > 'Listen' by Cindy Morgan for the past few weeks. It's CCM, so that might > put some of you off it.. but boy there's some really good songs on it. Now I am *really* confused: College Conservatory of Music? fleur ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:02:15 -0500 From: Heather Russell Subject: Re: embarrassing cd's The first albums I ever bought were vinyl - yes, the era before CD's. ;-) James Last Band-Seduction (I was playing sax in the school band at the time) Pat Benatar-can't remember the album title off the top of my head, but had the song Fire and Ice on it. (My record player kicked the bucket 7 years ago...R.I.P) The first CD was Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill. :-) Heather - -- |**************************************************| | Heather Russell | | My music site: http://www.freecloud.com/heather | | hrussell@bellsouth.net | |__________________________________________________| "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer." - Albert Camus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:45:03 -0500 From: Heather Russell Subject: Missing Persons > Hi, My first video recorded to keep was Surrender Your Heart by MP and > directed by Peter Max. I fell in love with SYH. Wow, that was one of my favorite songs for a long time. I heard it when I was in college and I used to play it on my radio show all the time. Nice to know there's someone else out there in the world that remembers this song. One of the things that I thought was interesting about the band was that they built most of the instruments that they used - they were extrememly innovative in that way. They actually came though my area (North Carolina) a few years ago and played a small to midsized club here but I was out of town and missed it. Heather P.S. Sorry I'm responding to old posts but I'm still getting caught up with my email... - -- |**************************************************| | Heather Russell | | My music site: http://www.freecloud.com/heather | | hrussell@bellsouth.net | |__________________________________________________| "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer." - Albert Camus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:44:28 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC/MCTAN: Brenda Weiler Ok, ok.......here's some more information about Brenda Weiler from her website at http://www.barkingdogrecords.com/brenda.html: <<"So you're the little girl with the big voice!" None other than folk legend Richie Havens bestowed this accolade on folk-rock singer-songwriter Brenda Weiler. Only eighteen years old when she opened a Richie Havens concert, Brenda Weiler was already a distinctive songwriter and performer. Her songs are startlingly direct, her voice is delicate as well as powerful, her guitar playing is original and strong, and her performances are riveting. (See her reviews page for more...) Though often described as evocative of Ani DiFranco, Tracy Chapman and Sarah McLachlan, Brenda Weiler is a performer and songwriter with an original voice. Exploring universal issues of identity and relationships, Brenda's songs resonate with striking images, wry lyrical twists and direct sincerity. trickle down, Brenda's debut CD recording, is a collection of original songs produced by Mike Coates and Brenda Weiler. Spare arrangements and flawless production frame Brenda's remarkable voice and expressive guitar work. Brenda's musical interests were formed early. One of eight children in an extremely musical family, Brenda grew up listening to and performing classical music, playing cello in school orchestras from fifth grade through high school. Although she remembers listening to her older siblings' recordings of U2, R.E.M. and The Wallets, it was recordings by Tracy Chapman and Paul Simon given to her as a gift when she was ten years old that inspired her love of songwriting. Brenda has opened for acclaimed national and regional artists including Greg Brown, Richie Havens, Lucy Kaplansky, Willy Wisely, Eller Lynch and Martin Zellar. Plans for 1998 include full time touring and independent college radio and print media promotion throughout the Midwest.>> And her upcoming tour schedule: THROUGH AND THROUGH - A Celebration of Women and their Music Fargo, ND Saturday, February 28 The Liquid Bean ch 21 Java Jive Public Radio Show 9:00 AM - 9:30 AM Hastings, MN Thursday, March 26 Bunker's opening for Willie Wisely Minneapolis, MN Friday, March 27 Barnes & Noble 12:00 noon - 2:00 pm Edina, MN Saturday, March 28 Professor Java  Hastings, MN Saturday, March 28 Barnes & Noble 12:00 noon - 2:00 pm Roseville, MN Sunday, March 29 Java Club Rock Island, IL Friday, April 3 Java Joe'sopening Des Moines, IA Saturday, April 4 Borders 11:00 am - 1:00 pm Des Moines, IA Sunday, April 5 Barnes & Noble 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm Borders, IA Sunday, April 5 Dunn Brothers Coffee Grand Avenue St. Paul, MN Friday, April 17 Dunn Brothers Coffee Lake Street Minneapolis, MN Saturday, April 18 Stage Right  Omaha, NE Fri/Sat, April 24 & 25 Aromas  Zumbrota, MN Saturday, May 2 Mother's Fool  Madison, WI Friday, May 8 So there you have it..... Jill ;D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:23:09 -0600 From: pink Subject: folk implosion and lofi indiepop greg commented: > > The Folk Implosion - Dare to Be Surprised (now this is great > - sometime I'll have to post about this one.) > > Please do say more -- I've seen the group name before, but I don't > even know what kind of music it is. well, let me answer, because i happen to really like LOU BARLOW and his numerous projects. THE FOLK IMPLOSION is a side project with above LOU BARLOW and JOHN DAVIS (who does his own solo stuff). The easiest way to classify their stuff is the ubiquitous phrasings of "lo-fi, indie-pop" that was badgered about a couple of years ago to describe anyone who recorded with a 4-track, used some sort of earcandy hook in their song, and usually originated from either portland or olympia, washington. just kidding. after all LOU is from BOSTON. LOU BARLOW is actually more known for his band SEBADOH, which is one of the biggest indiepop lofi bands around, though they have yet to hit it "big" in any commercial sense (though each album they release, has been named "the big breakthrough album" by the record company hype). LOU's actual only hit was with THE FOLK IMPLOSION a couple of years ago, for a song he did for the soundtrack for KIDS. the song NATURAL ONE was picked up as a MTV BUZZ BIN song, and all of sudden he was getting more attention than he has ever had in his actual main band SEBADOH. this is probably why you might have heard their name. follow up releases by both SEBADOH (HARMACY) and THE FOLK IMPLOSION (DARE TO BE SURPRISED) proved to be commercial unsuccesful. LOU, by the way, was also a founding member of DINOSAUR JR, a grunge band, that along with SONIC YOUTH, paved the way for NIRVANA and the gang. just thought you should know that. If you are interested in the his stuff, easiest on the ear would be THE FOLK IMPLOSION's DARE TO BE SURPRISED, SEBADOH's HARMACY or BAKESALE (both are actually a little more harder-edged, as the other two members of SEBADOH tend to write more rockin' songs, and BOB FAY the drummer is just downright weird in his songwriting -- i once bought a DELUXXE cd, a solo BOB FAYE project and found it undigestable) or one of LOU BARLOW's solo projects under the name SENTRIDOH (my favorite being LOUIS BARLOW'S ACOUSTIC SENTRIDOH's WINNING LOSERS). i will warn you though that some of LOU's SENTRIDOH projects are really really really selfabsorbed masturbatory releases, of LOU just recording any old thing on his 4track and releasing it. for a quick lesson on LOFI INDIEPOP just check out all the bands that MARY LOU LORD sings about on her song HIS INDIE WORLD from her eponymous ep released by KILL ROCK STARS (catalog number KRS-238). sort of like LOFI for dummies or something. MARY LOU LORD of course is getting TONS of hype nowadays with her major label debut, which i have not gotten, because i haven't bought any music in two months for strict budgetary reasons. i did see her featured on the MTV news show 1515, along with a clip of her new video for LIGHTS ARE CHANGING. not impressed with the new big budget sound, but then as i have been told, i may be in a lo fi rut. ah well.... back to grindstone irvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: folk implosion and lofi indiepop On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, pink wrote: > after all LOU is from BOSTON. Wow, I didn't realize Lou Barlow was in Boston. Whoda thunk it :) Speaking of Boston.... I was in Sound Garden today for the instore appearance of > for a quick lesson on LOFI INDIEPOP just check out all the bands that > MARY LOU LORD sings about on her song HIS INDIE WORLD from her eponymous > ep released by KILL ROCK STARS (catalog number KRS-238). While I was there, I glanced at the til tuesday greatest hits disc. Wow, the band has even bigger hair on that album than on Voices Carry! Anyone heard the bonus track? I'm not buying the disc for one song, but I was curious what it was like. Mary Lou Lord was pretty entertaining. She reminded me a bit of Amy Rigby in attitude, and Lois (and I guess other K records folk) in sound. SHe played with a full band that night, but I didn't see it. In the store it was just her and guitar. I thought it was somewhat hit or miss, but pretty good. She's updated His Indie World to His N.D. World (for No Depression?, a mag devoted to the Americana bands), so that's a handy dandy sampler of where to listen to for that scene too. I was impressed that she had the nerve to tackle Richard Thompson's 1952 Vincent Black Lightning, but not that thrilled with the results. I was also impressed that she hyped other people's music without ever once selling her own. SHe repeatedly raved about Elliot Smith (who's disc I bought, as well as hers) and her opening band, the Raging Teens. Anyway, a fun show and I wish I'd have had the energy to have seen her show with her band later. Neal np: Veda Hille - Spine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:39:58 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: DC/Baltimore concerts There is a frightening wealth of great shows in the area in the next month. Below are the ones I think are essential, and I plan to be at all of them. (Well, not all 4 Michelle SHocked shows, but at least one, and possibly more, of them.) If anyone is interested in getting together for any of these, let me know. Sat, Feb 28 - Nields, Birchmere March: Mon, Tue, 1/2: Michelle SHocked, 9:30 Club Wed, Thu, 3/4: Michelle SHocked, Fletcher's Mon, 16: Victoria Williams - Birchmere Tue, 17: Holly Cole - Fletcher's. Sun, 21: Solas - Birchmere. (Traditional Irish. I'm taking my parents as a birthday present to my dad. You have been warned.) Thu 19: June Rich - Ram's Head (Not an essential show, but an entertaining one anyway. They are a Philly band that come through pretty often, so I may blow this one off.) Neal np: Veda Hille - Spine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: Rachel Subject: Mary Lou I took the bus down to DC to go see Mary Lou Lord at the 9:30 Club and nobody told me about the in-store so I didn't get to go, but I heard it was good. I really like her new band a lot but I'm glad she's also incorporating her solo stuff into her shows - she did 6 solo songs Saturday night, including Shawn Colvin's "Polaroids" and again did "1952 Vincent Black Lightning." She also did "Not Half Right" which I think is a hidden track at the end of Heatmiser's (Elliott Smith's old band) _Mic City Songs_ and anyway, that one is truly incredible. One of the coolest thing about her live show is that she has her keyboard player play the theremin on this one song, and it looks and sounds really neat. Saturday's NY Times had a review of her NYC show - it's up at my website at http://pages.nyu.edu/articles.html - -- rachel - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- my Mary Lou Lord page is at http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/ To join Some Jingle Jangle List, the Mary Lou Lord mailing list, email Majordomo@smoe.org with ONLY "subscribe jinglejangle" OR "subscribe jinglejangle-digest" in the BODY. Email me for information about my zine I'M NOT WAITING. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:10:51 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Imogen Heep I was listening to Vince Scelsa's "Idiot's Delight" show on WNEW tonight, hoping to catch Autour de Lucie--apparently their guest appearance was cancelled--and heard him play something by someone named Imogen Heep off an upcoming album named _I, Megaphone_; the song was called "Oh Me, Oh My." Vince himself mentioned it would rank high among people who liked Kate Bush. Anyone know anything about it? He also played something off Veda Hille's _Spine_ which caught my attention. I guess she's beginning to grow on me, finally. Cheers, Paul ***************************************************************************** "Let her out? But she's a killer!" "No she's not. And give her your coat." SINED "Why me?" "Because you're perfect." Paul Blair "You have a point there..." psfblair@ix.netcom.com ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #63 *************************