From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #56 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, February 17 1998 Volume 04 : Number 056 Today's Subjects: ----------------- New Indigo Girls news-only list [Sherlyn Koo ] Autour de Lucie news [Yves Denneulin ] Nan Vernon [Renee Canada ] Re: Nan Vernon [Riphug@aol.com] Re: First Records [spike45@sos.sos.net (wayne fisher)] Meth's sampler [Tamar Boursalian ] Memories... [Marion Kippers ] Re: Memories... [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: Nan Vernon [Neile Graham ] First & Most Embarassing [Marcel Kshensky ] Re: Memories... [Paul Blair ] Re: Memories... ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: First & Most Embarassing [Riphug@aol.com] Chris Cunningham CD Release Party [Hillary Jackson ] note for the sf fans [meredith ] live nields et al. [meredith ] Re: live nields et al. [BarBearUh ] Re: note for the sf fans [Greg Dunn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:46:01 +1100 (EST) From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: New Indigo Girls news-only list Hi folks, Just a short note to let everyone know that a new news-only Indigo Girls mailing list has been set up. This list will be fully moderated and is intended to be the smaller, much quieter sister of the regular Indigo Girls mailing list at netspace.org. It will be owned and moderated by me - Sherlyn Koo (sherlyn@fl.net.au). List content will primarily be drawn from sources such as the regular IG list, the IG newsgroup, the WWW and subscriber submissions. For more information about the new list, send this command to majordomo@smoe.org: info ig-news Or to subscribe, send this command instead: subscribe ig-news (replace "" with your real email address) No digest form of the list is available at present. Other questions can be addressed to me at sherlyn@fl.net.au. Thanks, sherlyn =-=-=-= Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig "I'll breathe and grieve and struggle and strive and love and love and love, and if I'm lucky, once - just once - the dream will drop to the floor and shatter in shards of silence. But I will see, I will see, in the pattern of the pieces I will see... something. This will, this will, this WILL happen..." - Peter Mulvey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:03:37 +0100 From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Autour de Lucie news Here is the detailed schedule for their promotional tour. There is a concert in Ney York at a place called The Luna Lounge. If you go see them, tell Yves says "Hi!". :-) 2/15 Los Angeles 2pm In-store performance at Borders (Santa Monica) 3:30pm Interview MTV-on-line (Borders too) 7pm KCRW radio interview (3 songs) 2/16 Los Angeles Press day (interview and photos) 2/17 Los Angeles Interview day 7pm In-store performance at Virgin megastore 7:30pmAlbum release party (Tempest Bar, 7323 Santa Monica Blvd.) 2/18 LA From LA to Toronto 2/19 Toronto 1pm Accoustic afternoon at the Gekko cafe (478 Queen St. W.) 2/19 Toronto 10:30pmDepart to Montreal 2/20 Montreal 12:15pmInterview and performance at Musique PLus (335 Ste Catherine West) 1pm Live on Air Play 2/21 Montreal 1:00pmInterview and in-store performance at the HMV Megastore (1020 rue Ste-Catherine W.) 2/22 Montreal Départ to New York 2/23 Bryn Mawr, PA 7pmConcert at the Borders 2/24 Oklahoma 11amWXPN world Cafe, interview and performance New York 9pmShowcase at the Luna Lounge (New York) 2/25 New York Press day 2/26 New York Back to Paris - -- Yves. Denneulin email: denneuli@lifl.fr http://www.lifl.fr/~denneuli Autour de Lucie page: http://www.lifl.fr/~denneuli/adl/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 23:38:42 -0800 (PST) From: Renee Canada Subject: Nan Vernon My boyfriend, who knows my music taste really well, recommended Nan Vernon to me after hearing her in some music store. I know many of you on the list know her, so I was wondering if anyone could give me a slight "introduction" so I can get an idea of her sound. In other words, what's she like? Thanks Renee ********* "I do it for the joy it brings because I'm a joyful girl because the world owes me nothing and we owe each other the world I do it because it's the least I can do I do it because I learned it from you And I do it just because I want to..." - -Ani DiFranco from "Joyful Girl" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:15:22 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: Nan Vernon In a message dated 2/16/98 2:55:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, laverick@leland.Stanford.EDU writes: << My boyfriend, who knows my music taste really well, recommended Nan Vernon to me after hearing her in some music store. I know many of you on the list know her, so I was wondering if anyone could give me a slight "introduction" so I can get an idea of her sound. In other words, what's she like? >> There's a good article and interview with Nan Vernon in Muse Magazine. Check it out at this address: http://www.val.net/muse/nanverno.htm Here's the opening paragraph of the article: <> And here's a segment of a review of Nan's album, "Manta Ray," from a website called The War Against Silence (http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0027.html#entry4): <> HTH, Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:27:37 -0800 (PST) From: spike45@sos.sos.net (wayne fisher) Subject: Re: First Records Hi, Just couldn't resist this thread becuase mine may be the most embarrassing of all. My first 45 was "Let's Get Together" by Hayley Mills. Let's get together, yea yea yea And we'll have lots of fu-un. There must be a prize for this one? Wayne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 00:16:04 EST From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: Meth's sampler Yo, meth, Walk across the hall for a track listing of your old Happy sampler! :) - --Tamar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:50:19 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) From: Marion Kippers Subject: Memories... Hi all, I really like these current threads! CD's currently in my cd wallet at work (might change tomorrow): - - Dar Williams - End of the summer - - Velvet Belly - The landing - - Sarah McLachlan - Solace - - Grey Eye Glances - Eventide - - Merry Amsterburg - Season of rain - - Unni Wilhelmsen - Definitely me - - The Innocence Mission - Umbrella - - Tara MacLean - Silence - - Velvet Belly - Window tree - - Susan McKeown - Bones + Kate Price - Deep heart's core. The tape in my walkman (playing on the way to/from work) has both Velvet Belly albums (on repeat for about a month now and I'm still not bored by them). Unfortunately the colleague who shares my room doesn't like music so I can only listen when he's out of the room... :-) Music that my other colleagues listen to (fortunately for me in another room): Rock classics, Santana, Metallica, Creedence Clearwater Revival and loads of other boyz with guitarz. Nothing wrong with that, just not my taste. As for music that I grew up with, after my very young years with various horrible Dutch artists that you don't want to know about, I was a really huge ABBA fan, from the moment I heard 'SOS' way back in 1975, leading to one of my first albums ('The best of ABBA' including "Fernando"). I must have been about 9, 10, 11 then. That used to be embarrasing for quite a while, but I think nowadays ABBA is accepted as good crafted music. :-) I still listen to my vinyl albums every now and then (especially 'The Album' and 'The Visitors'), and I might buy the remastered cd's for some of them. And I think my love for ABBA definitely formed my musical preference for female vocals, good melodies and harmonies. ABBA was also my first concert, on 24 October 1979 in Ahoy, Rotterdam. :-) I don't really remember what the first album or 7" was that I bought (probably something by ABBA), but I do remember the first cd: Peter Gabriel's 'So'. And I vividly remember the first album I taped on my father's brand new cassettedeck, way back in 1978: 'The kick inside' by a certain Kate Bush. That's the album that I lived with, frequently renewing the tape until I finally got the album, through my teenager years. It's still my all time favourite album, and I still play it fairly frequently (I've got the cd now). Loads of other memories coming up now, but I'll quit here. Best wishes, Marion (who's been thinking for 2 days now about the title of that movie about a deaf girl and a hearing teacher who meet and change each other's worlds... Anybody know what movie I mean?) n.p. Kristin Hersh - Hips and makers (I'm at home now) n.r. Andre Norton - Golden Trillium (anybody know of any other books by her (Alice Mary Norton)? I quite like this one.) - ---------------------- Marion Kippers Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:13:52 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Memories... On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Marion Kippers wrote: > (who's been thinking for 2 days now about the title of that movie > about a deaf girl and a hearing teacher who meet and change each > other's worlds... Anybody know what movie I mean?) _Children of a Lesser God_, with Marlee Matlin and William Hurt? Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg stuart@sph.emory.edu Information Services stuart@emory.edu Rollins School of Public Health http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:34:55 -0600 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Nan Vernon Renee asked about Nan Vernon: Well, she's one of those artists that gets a split vote on ecto. Some people really liked her while others found her stuff too pop. I myself had a split vote on her--I like some of her album but could easily skip other parts of it, And in fact usually do--it doesn't get much play at my house. In all honesty the last time I played it, it was to decide whether to sell it or not. I decided not to, but it was touch and go for a while. I think I like the end of the album better than the beginning. In my notes for the Ectophiles' Guide there are comparisons to Kate, Sarah, and one to Tori, but everyone notes that she's not quite like any of them. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:50:46 -0500 From: Marcel Kshensky Subject: First & Most Embarassing Dear Ecto-folk, It's great reading about all of your first and most embarrassing record purchases. It got me to thinking and hunting. So I started going through my 45's to see which one I bought first. I thought it was Jimmy Soul's words to live by "If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life don't you make a pretty woman your wife." The title's in there somewhere. I couln't find it so I can't be sure it was my first. Anyway, my first 45 turned out to be Larry Verne's "Mr. Custer." The song definitely supplemented my sixth grade history lessons nicely. If you don't know this classic, it's about General Custer's piercing death; the arrow sound effects are great! I thought buying Micheal Jackson's "HIStory" would be the most embarassing. I mean it's a double CD, and cost me at least $25. Yuck! But, while looking for the first record I bought I found what can serve nicely as the most embarassing, "Kicks," by Paul Revere and the Raiders. I couldn't believe I bought anything by them, but lo and behold, I did! Thanks for making me look through my old 45's. That was fun. - -Marcel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:03:14 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Memories... Marion wrote: >(who's been thinking for 2 days now about the title of that movie >about a deaf girl and a hearing teacher who meet and change each >other's worlds... Anybody know what movie I mean?) _Children of a Lesser God_ with William Hurt and um... darn, I can't remember her name. Is that it? - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:39:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Memories... On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Paul Blair wrote: > Marion wrote: > > >(who's been thinking for 2 days now about the title of that movie > >about a deaf girl and a hearing teacher who meet and change each > >other's worlds... Anybody know what movie I mean?) > > _Children of a Lesser God_ with William Hurt and um... darn, I can't > remember her name. Is that it? That could also be "The Miracle Worker". - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:48:43 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: First & Most Embarassing In a message dated 2/16/98 12:56:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, mundopax@ingress.com writes: << Anyway, my first 45 turned out to be Larry Verne's "Mr. Custer." The song definitely supplemented my sixth grade history lessons nicely. If you don't know this classic, it's about General Custer's piercing death; the arrow sound effects are great! >> Oh, yes! I remember that one -- I used to love it! I know this is probably a waste of bandwidth, but I just *had* to look up the lyrics so that I could walk down Memory Lane.........anyone care to join me? ;-) ************************************************************ Mr. Custer (That famous day in history the men of the 7th Cavalry went riding on) (And from the rear a voice was heard) (A brave you man with a trembling word rang loud and clear) What am I doin' here?? Please Mr. Custer, I don't wanna go Hey, Mr. Custer, please don't make me go I had a dream last night about the comin' fight Somebody yelled "attack!" And there I stood with a arrow in my back. Please Mr. Custer, I don't wanna go (forward Ho!!)--aaww SPOKEN: Look at them bushes out there They're moving and there's a injun behind every one Hey, Mr. Custer-you mind if I be excused the rest of the afternoon? HEY CHARLIE, DUCK YER HEAD!! Hmm, you're a little bit late on that one, Charlie Hooh, I bet that smarts! (They were sure of victory, the men of the 7th Cavalry, as they rode on) (But then from the rear a voice was heard) (That same brave voice with the trembling word rang loud and clear) What am I doin' here?? Please Mr. Custer, I don't wanna go Listen, Mr. Custer, please don't make me go There's a redskin a'waitin' out there, just fixin to take my hair A coward I've been called cuz I don't wanna wind up dead or bald Please Mr. Custer, I don't wanna go (forward HO)--aaww SPOKEN: I wonder what the injun word for friend is Let's see-friend-- kemo sabe, that's it KEMO SABE!, HEY OUT THERE-KEMO SABE! Nope, that itn't it Look at them durned injuns They're runnin' around like a bunch of wild Indians-heh, heh, heh Nah, this ain't no time for jokin' ********************************************************** Ah, they just don't make 'em like they used to......*sigh* *nostalgic* hugs and kisses, Jill :D (also remembering the 45 I have of Steve Martin's "King Tut") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:39:58 -0800 From: Hillary Jackson Subject: Chris Cunningham CD Release Party Chris Cunningham of Susan McKeown's Chanting House has a solo CD out. It's called "Stories to Play" and the release party is February 21st at 9pm at: The Parkside Lounge 317 East Houston NYC Chris and his band will perform songs from the CD and there will be a special performance by Michelle Kinney (also of Chanting House) and her band, Mississippi Peace. ================================================================= EVBVD Music PO Box 1677 Old Chelsea Station New York, NY 10011 212-675-9629 (vox) 212-645-0298 (fax) hillaryj@mindspring.com info on OVERSTEPPING CD: http://www.hear.com/o.o./oo33.html ================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:28:41 -0600 From: Neile Graham Subject: Laurie Freelove (+Aether +Barbara Gogan w/Zazou) Cyoakha asked: >Also any info on Laurie Freelove, mad >about her stuff and can't seem to find it anywhere...is there more than the >album Smells like Truth, and who was first with smells like? Her or Nivana? In addition to what Neal said about Laurie, there's a page on her in the Ectophiles' Guide: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/freelove.laurie.html She does indeed have a new album out, a live compilation of older and new material called Songs from the Nineline_. It got well-deserved positive reviews on ecto when we all first heard about it. I highly recommend it. I think the only way to get it is through mail order (info on the web page). I think Laurie was first with the "Smells like" since her album came out first. Hard to say when either song was written, though. I have a copy of the demo tape ofthe unreleased album _The Invisible Invisible_ and it's brilliant. There are soundfiles from it up on the nineline site (linked from the EctoGuide page) which are well worth exploring. On another matter: Hey, thanks to Craig's review on ecto, I picked up Aether's _The Smoke of Vanished Kisses_, and Jim and I have been obsessing over it the last couple of weeks. Sweet-backed gritty emotional lyrics. Lovely! You'd think harp-based music would be too sweet or something but there's a lot of electronic energy going on with it in addition to the energy of the singer. I don't much like the first song, but the rest of the album I can play and play and play... Bought the Barbara Gogan w/ Hector Zazou disc because Henry Frayne played on it and I liked Zazou's _Songs from the Cold Seas_ (not _Sahara Blue_ much, though). So far this is quite a disappointment. Maybe it will grow on me, but Gogan's voice isn't up to much (breathy and I think off key?) and except on one song Henry's guitar work is pretty much buried and the songs feel formless (and ahem boring) except one song Henry wrote the music for ("Breathe") and I found myself wishing someone else were doing the singing on it. Anyone have another opinion on this one. Should I hang in there with it? It's a German disc but available from Parasol Records in the U.S. Very happy with the new Kristin Hersh and Sixteen Horsepower. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:46:23 EST From: LynnGarret@aol.com Subject: Re: Nan Vernon In a message dated 98-02-16 02:55:52 EST, you write: << My boyfriend, who knows my music taste really well, recommended Nan Vernon to me after hearing her in some music store. I know many of you on the list know her, so I was wondering if anyone could give me a slight "introduction" so I can get an idea of her sound. In other words, what's she like? >> I purchased Manta Ray when it first came out mainly because I had collected Eurythmics since the early 80's. I knew she played with Dave Stewart and the Spirtual Cowboys, so I took a chance on her cd. It was interesting enough and I really didn't think it compared at all to Tori, Happy, Sarah, etc. To me, it has a bit more of a pop sound than the above. I even managed to pick up 2 UK cd singles to accompany Manta Ray. Is there a new release coming from Nan Vernon or is Manta Ray still the only thing out there? I still am surprised her name finally surfaced ;) Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:49:33 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Mila Drumke, chanteuse Hello ectophiles: Saturday night I went to hear Mila Drumke's Valentine's Day show, "An evening of standard and not-so-standard love songs in one of the city's most intimate rooms.... a loungy set replete with tuxedos, floor-length gowns, a feather boa and a 7-page drink menu. Ivories will be tickled, we're talking double bass, some jazz standards and a few surprises." This is Mila Drumke? Though the promo copy was perfectly clear, I had no idea what to expect. The description turned out to be dead on. Ciel Rouge is a tiny room with about ten little round tables and a bar. You enter through red velvet curtains and, if you're not careful, walk right into the double bass or the lead singer's mike. Everything's red: the walls, the tablecloths, the diminutive (7-page) drink menus. Saturday the place was full; people without reservations were being turned away from the early show, and I'd heard the late show was also completely booked. The band included Lyris Hung on violin and mandolin and Mark Sacco on drums, both from Mila's regular band. Elissa Moser wasn't on, however; instead Mila had brought double-bass player David Arend, along with pianist Peter Edmonston. Jake Stigers did the occasional vocal and played the occasional instrument. The gentlemen were all wearing tuxedos, Lyris wore a long dress and a sweater, and Mila came out wearing a very attractive long slim gown and the advertised feather boa. As soon as they started playing, there was no question. Mila makes a fantastic chanteuse. She started with a duet in which she did a verse of one song (whose name, unfortunately, I don't know) after which Jake Stigers did a verse of "Satin Doll." They alternated verses one more time, then finished simultaneously on their respective last verse. It worked. Other songs in this "loungy" vein included "A Fine Romance," "Girl from Ipanema," "My Funny Valentine," and "Someone to Watch Over Me." Mila definitely has the right voice and presence for this kind of music; if she did these shows on a regular basis she could clean up. The set also included more recent songs such as "Baby Don't Go" and "Bring Your Sweet Lovin'" (I'm not sure of the real titles). Later in the show, Mila announced that she and Lyris were going to do a new song, one they thought had "radio potential": It turned out to be George Michael's "Faith." Mila picked up the acoustic for these songs, which tended to undercut her "chanteuse" persona a bit. I had a feeling she wasn't entirely sure she could play the role completely straight and carry it off--though I'm sure she could have. Mila did one song of her own, "Last Light," which she introduced as the only love song she's written, about missing someone who is far away. (It was at this point Mila mentioned that she was the only band member without a date for the evening--making all us guys in the audience reflect that we could easily have remedied that situation if we'd only had some advance notice :-) ) The set closed with "Ribbon in the Sky." The audience was ecstatic. Mila came back for an encore, but they'd already done all the songs they'd prepared. I figured she'd do "Under the Ivy," and I was right. Everyone was spellbound. It was particularly fascinating to see Mila do this song up close: it requires abrupt transitions from extremely loud to soft, and this time I could see the way she pulled back just the right distance from the mike as she got louder (so as not to overload the sound system) and then move in close for the soft parts. It was perfect. My three companions for the evening had never heard Mila before, and all were sold. So far, I've already got a definite promise from one of them to go see Mila perform her own music at Arlene's Grocery on the 28th. Cheers, Paul ***************************************************************************** "Let her out? But she's a killer!" "No she's not. And give her your coat." SINED "Why me?" "Because you're perfect." Paul Blair "You have a point there..." psfblair@ix.netcom.com ***************************************************************************** Š ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:59:44 -0500 From: meredith Subject: note for the sf fans Hi, I know there are some fellow fans of the SF/Fantasy author Jo Clayton here. Jo passed away on Friday, 13 February at a hospice in Portland, OR following an almost 2-year bout with bone cancer. She was surrounded by family and friends. She had asked that a "leave-taking" ceremony be held the previous night, so several area friends gathered in person and even more got together online on the GEnie service to bid her adieu. I've seen excerpts from that RTC and heard reports from some who were in attendance IRL, and all were quite moving. Her birthday would have been yesterday. She was a top-notch person as well as a brilliant writer, who brought more dignity to death than I think any of us could ever hope to. She will be sorely missed. Requiescat in pace. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:58:24 -0500 From: meredith Subject: live nields et al. Hi! Last night woj and I trekked up to Northampton yet again to see The Nields at the Iron Horse. A long time ago I vowed never to miss a show of theirs there, and once again I wasn't disappointed. Originally we only had tickets for the early show, but yesterday morning when I woke up I decided I didn't need to be functional at work today, so I called and got tickets for the late show too. Of course, I woke up really really sick this morning and ended up leaving work and sleeping all afternoon (a word of warning: when ordering an Ironburger, "medium" apparently means "totally not cooked" -- I'm probably dying of e. coli right now and don't know it yet) but it was all worth it. :) Jim's Big Ego (which consists of Jim Infantino and his goofy rhythm section) opened. I'd seen them open for The Nields before, at Wetlands a couple summers ago, but that night the sound wasn't good and I couldn't understand a word he was saying/singing, so I was rather unimpressed. Well, this time Mr. Infantino totally won me over -- both sets were hilarious! His music is sort of like if Moxy Fruvous smashed into the Beastie Boys on a dark highway. Normally not my thing, but this stuff works, and really gets the crowd grooving. I can't imagine him opening for Dar Williams as he did the previous night, though -- that must've been a shock to the Dar crowd! He provided by far the best line of the night: "Thanks to The Nields! Thanks to the Iron Horse!! BITE ME HARD!!!" (Maybe you had to have been there... ;) The late show was better than the early show -- I don't know if that's because for the early show we were sitting up in the loft looking down on the proceedings, whereas for the late show I had my usual spot right up front at Nerissa's feet, or if there was just more energy because there wasn't any pressure to get the show over in time to let the freezing hordes in for the second round. In any event the band was having the time of their lives (Katryna kept mentioning how much fun she was having, and Nerissa was positively glowing). As promised, both sets were chock-full of new songs, including several that had never been performed before. Hands-down the highlight of both shows was the new song "Snowman", in which Katryna played guitar (*very* confidently, too) and Nerissa belted out a soulful, intense solo vocal. That song got the biggest ovation of the show both times. I was really glad to find that that was one of the 4 songs which ended up in both shows - -- it's wonderful. Another standout, not-as-new song (though I'd never heard it before) was "Nebraska", sung in the first show by Nerissa, then by Katryna in the second set, both times accompanied by Dave Chalfant on his brand-new lap steel guitar. As much as I love Nerissa's singing, I have to say that the song worked better for me when Katryna sang lead. There were also some old favorites: they started each set with "Be Nice To Me" and "Happy Ever After Afternoon", respectively, and also trotted out "Ash Wednesday" and "Merry Christmas, Mr. Jones", as well as the stunning "Black Boys On Mopeds" (which blows the original farther out of the water every time I hear it) and "James". There were also the requisite songs from _Gotta Get Over Greta_, including the title song, "I Need A Doctor", "Bulletproof", "Einstein's Daughter", "Taxi Girl" and "Best Black Dress". Other highlights included the new rock anthem "Check It Out" (which in the long run probably won't work for me, but it was amusing to watch last night :), as well as the songs in which Dave Chalfant played his new upright bass Gregor, and the very end when David Nields stage-dove. :) (Fortunately, everyone was able to catch him. ;) Both shows were recorded, whether for an entire new live album or just for some tracks for the next album I don't know. I *really* hope we're going to get another live album -- "Live At The Iron Horse Redux", or whatever. As good as their studio CDs are, there's really no comparison to the energy of their music live, in front of a (sometimes overzealously) enthusiastic hometown crowd. It was interesting -- while none of the band members specifically mentioned their recent label woes, it was inferred in some of the intros to the new songs, especially the one which Nerissa described as "a declaration of hope", and when she introed another new song as having come out of a conversation last fall in which they all decided that they're not in it for the fame and fortune, they're just in it for the love of it, which in my view is the healthiest attitude possible. While I'm here: Marion reminisced: >As for music that I grew up with, after my very young years with >various horrible Dutch artists that you don't want to know about, I >was a really huge ABBA fan, from the moment I heard 'SOS' way back in >1975, leading to one of my first albums ('The best of ABBA' including >"Fernando"). I grew up with ABBA too, but not of my own volition -- my dad was their biggest fan for years and years. I think he still is, to a degree. I bought him the boxed set for Christmas a couple years ago, and he still considers it to be one of the best presents anyone has ever given him. :} In fact, the day I bought my very first album he bought his first ABBA album (_Greatest Hits Volume II_), and my mom would probably say that was a day to live in infamy for all of us. ;> To this day I can still recite the lyrics to "Gimme Gimme Gimme" and "Eagle", and I convinced him to rent the movie _Muriel's Wedding_ solely on the strength of my description of the priceless "Waterloo" scene halfway through. :) Tamar called: >Walk across the hall for a track listing of your old Happy sampler! :) Heh. Gotta love this intra-house communication we have here... (thanks!) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 00:10:15 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: Re: live nields et al. meredith wrote: > Last night woj and I trekked up to Northampton yet again to see The Nields > at the Iron Horse. A long time ago I vowed never to miss a show of theirs > there, and once again I wasn't disappointed. the nields are playing nearby soon and i've never heard them before. can someone please fill me in - what is their music like and so forth? make a case for why i should go in spite of not knowing 'em! barbara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:43:08 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: note for the sf fans >Hi, > >I know there are some fellow fans of the SF/Fantasy author Jo Clayton here. My wife was one of the authors participating in the leave-taking. This happening saddens us all... one small major note in this minor key, though: we understand she found good homes for her cats prior to leaving us. Too many good people leaving us lately... - -- | Greg Dunn | I shut out acceptance so I won't | | gregdunn@indy.net | get hurt; and move on to the next| | GregDunn@aol.com | one who will treat me like dirt. | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | Patti Rothberg | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #56 *************************