From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #52 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, February 13 1998 Volume 04 : Number 052 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: cds/response [roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves)] Re: cds/response [Yves Denneulin ] Re: ecto-digest V4 #50 [JavaHo@aol.com] My first CD (embarassing etc.) [afinney@ozonline.com.au (Tim Finney)] I won! :) [David Dixon ] Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) [afinney@ozonline.com.au (Tim ] Lisa, Cassandra etc. [Jet Girl ] Re: Music vs. movies/tv ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: Lisa Cerbone [Valerie Nozick ] Re: ecto-digest V4 #51 [AURALG@aol.com] Re: cds/response/Jennifer Kimball [Riphug@aol.com] Re: embarrassment... etc. [Carolyn Andre ] Re: cds/response [roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves)] Childhood music [Alan Moorse ] Re: embarrassment... etc. [Neile Graham ] Re: embarrassment... etc. [Carolyn Andre ] delurking for a thread or two... [cjmacs ] Susan Werner Boston concert & radio this weekend! [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: Katell Keineg [Riphug@aol.com] Ani DiFranco at Last ["Chad Lundgren" ] "newbie" (sort of) intro ["Larry S. Greenfield" ] Re: "newbie" (sort of) intro [Neal Copperman ] victoria williams on atc [Meredith Tarr ] Yes medley and first records [Tamar Boursalian >-- >amazing. It, Jonatha Brooke's new one, Emm Gryner, and the new Autour >de Lucie (can't quite get into this one..i'm trying) have been rotating >in my cd player for the past week or so. :) I've found that knowing French is helping me with that one. >-Dar: opinions on the Internet-only EP? Sounds great...? Yes? > It's worth it, IMHO, if only for "Wilder than her." It's got a couple of versions of "What do you hear..." and a live "Are You out There", which the liner notes say was recorded at a concert with Jimmy Olsen and Johnny Memphis in the audience.... I got it at her concert here two weeks ago. - --K - --------------------------------------------------- Kay S. Cleaves Brown University Stage Manager, Sweeney Todd 401-863-6650 Pager: 1-800-759-8888 x182-1000 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:55:31 +0100 From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Re: cds/response > >amazing. It, Jonatha Brooke's new one, Emm Gryner, and the new Autour > >de Lucie (can't quite get into this one..i'm trying) have been rotating > >in my cd player for the past week or so. :) > > I've found that knowing French is helping me with that one. That's why I tried to translate the lyrics into english so that everyone could understand the general sense of the songs. My attempt is on the beta version of my AdL page at http://www.lifl.fr/~denneuli/adl/ Of course, any suggestions are welcome especially regarding the translations since my english is far from perfect... (most of the puns can't be translated anyway). - -- Yves. n.p. AdL _Immobile_ (concert tonight!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 06:34:21 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #50 David asks: << Hi everyone. I'm interested in hearing what Happy Rhodes is all about. What should I start with? >> I usually start people off with "Warpaint", especially if I am unsure of their taste in music. It seems to be the most accessible. After that, I suggest either "RhodeSongs" as a good diverse sampler of her work throughought the years, or "The Keep" if they are into acoustic music. Any of the three would be ok to start with...then discover the rest...:) Happy listening, David...Java ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:43:14 +1000 From: afinney@ozonline.com.au (Tim Finney) Subject: My first CD (embarassing etc.) I have perhaps a strange example of an embarrassing first cd. For me it happens to be C+C Music Factory's Everybody Dance Now back in 91 or 92 - I'm only 15 so be nice. Actually I really enjoyed it, and used to dance around my room to it. Then I didn't really buy much until I got into The Cranberries in 94, and from there it was a hop skip and jump through Bjork and Tori into fullblown Ecto land, where I have mainly resided ever since. Tim "The trouble with the rat-race is that even if you win, you're still a rat" - Lily Tomlin ************20 9 13 6 9 14 14 5 25************* Customers are STILL taking too many free napkins! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:36:57 +0100 From: David Dixon Subject: I won! :) Lately I've become a regular reader of Salon Magazine on the web (www.salonmagazine.com), which has an "electronic culture" section called "21st". Every once in a while this section has a challenge for the readers, usually involving some sort of wordplay. The most recent challenge was to come up with a haiku error message, that is, a computer error message which follows the rules of haiku. Well, my entry won. :) You can see it at: http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/chal/1998/02/10chal2.html Each entrant could submit three poems. I was actually surprised that they chose my winning entry, since I thought my other two entries were better: Persevere, user. Journey of a thousand files Begins with single stop. Your quest finds end in Electronic cul-de-sac. Do not punch the wall. Cheers, D^2 ====================================================================== David Dixon (D^2) dixon@qt.tn.tudelft.nl Department of Applied Physics, Delft University of Technology This week's bon mot: "Was Karl Marx buried in a communist plot?" ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:43:22 +1000 From: afinney@ozonline.com.au (Tim Finney) Subject: Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) >Children of the Revolution (A flawed film, brought to these heights by the > dizzyingly amazing performance of my favorite > actress, Judy Davis) Wow, I'm surprised someone outside of Australia saw this. I think Judy Davis is brilliant, but I also liked the whole premise of the film. Its too bad the two parts of the film couldn't really reconcile themselves. >The Ice Storm (Ang Lee is a master of subtlety. Christina Ricci should > have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress!) Definitely! Christina Ricci has been my favourite young actor since Addams Family Values (an underrated classic), and she lived up to my expectations here. Of course all of the acting was a revelation, especially Joan Allen, and that kid who played Elijah Wood's younger brother. I saw this for the third time tonight, taking a few of my friends who hadn't seen it, and they were raving when they came out. I'd say that this is one of those films where you cannot walk out unchanged. One of my friend's parents strongly disliked it, but I can understand that more than someone being unaffected. What a film... Tim "The trouble with the rat-race is that even if you win, you're still a rat" - Lily Tomlin ************20 9 13 6 9 14 14 5 25************* Customers are STILL taking too many free napkins! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jet Girl Subject: Lisa, Cassandra etc. First off where is Cassandra Wilson playing, I absolutely *love* her. My first introduction to her was on a flight to London. They had one channel dedicated to her and I listened to it the entire flight - very soothing for someone who absolutely loathes flying. The Lisa/Vyktoria/Jane Lily Faeries concert was excellent. During the first Jane song - that i heard - I swear I thought I was watching Tori Amos. I preferred Jane when she was on the piano, rather than when she was playing the guitar. She has a really punchy style of guitar playing that is too loud and grating - i can't think of a better way of putting it. Although, "Girl Scout Slacker" became an instant classic. Vyktoria has the most lovely voice. We picked up both their CD's and I'm looking forward to the listen. This was my first time seeing Lisa without the band. It was strange. I can't decide which I like better, her songs take on a totally different color acoustically. They are more personal, the lyrics really shine. All in all a great concert. I'm looking forward to Michelle Shocked, thanks for the recs. There are so many good concerts coming up - 98 is definitely turning into my 'year of music' Oh and for another embarrassing fact, I too loved Duran Duran during the 80's, and at my home in Chicago I still have a D2 poster hanging on the wall, big hair and all. My first cd: The Cure Kiss Me^3, or Breathe I can't remember which My first LP: Harry Chapin My first 45: The Police, Every Breath you Take and speaking of 7" I saw Edie Brickells What I am last night at Phantasmagoria, must have! :) kIrI jetgrrl@magenta.com Teacher: Let's all work together to make Daria's dream a reality. Daria: You mean the one where people walking down the street burst into flames? -la la la la la ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:48:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Music vs. movies/tv On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Kay Cleaves wrote: > I'd actually question that. Maybe it's because I work in live theatre, but > I find that I love music, but cannot stand any video medium--tv, film, etc. > I was raised as a musician and a live performer, and the distance made by > the celluloid just grates on me. I was just wondering if I was the only > one...Does anyone else think visual and audio sources can be separated? Or > am I just a wacky freak? Hmm.... I've done work in both life performance and video. Each has its own positive attributes. Stuff on a screen that is just statically filmed theatre falls flat, as often does theatre that tries to handle the scope of the filmable. Do you feel the same about recorded music? - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:43:07 -0500 From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Re: Lisa Cerbone Paul Blair wrote: > Neal wrote: > > >On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Paul Blair wrote: > > > >> When Lisa talks, she has this Midwestern > >> accent that reminded me that yes, we Midwesterners do indeed have accents. > >> :-) > > > >That's funny, since, to the best of my knowledge, Lisa hails from New > >Jersey. I know the definition of midwest can sometimes be a bit nebulous, > >but I think that would be stretching it a bit :) > > So, would you call hers a New Jersey accent? I met her last night, and I wouldn't call her accent anything. However, I can settle one thing. She's definitely from New Jersey. She's from Morris County, from a town right next to Florham Park. A few comments about the Lillie Fairies -- Lisa Cerbone, Vyktoria Pratt Keatting and Jane Brody -- concert in DC last night . Wow. This was one of the best concerts I've seen for sheer beauty of music. They seemed to be having tons of fun, and the audience (very small -- maybe 30 people at most) was enthralled. They sang several cover songs together, obviously with no rehearsal and little planning, during which their voices blended together melodically. Separately (they alternated songs throughout most of the two-set night), their styles played off of each other. Just when you were tired of Vyktoria and Lisa's soft, high voices, in came Jane to shake things up. And just when you wanted to hear some good basic folk music, Vyktoria was there to meet the need. The standout, IMO, was Jane Brody. I knew nothing about her going in, but wow can she sing! She has a wonderful deep voice that at times breaks into high notes worthy of Happy. She feels the music, and interprets songs in a way that is reminiscent of classic rock or even funk music. It creates an energy that is only hinted at in her record. Lisa and Vyktoria were good, also. Lisa is just so damn adorable. She looks like a non-emaciated version of Ally McBeal, and when she smiles, she had the audience eating out of her hands. As for the venue, well, I'm disappointed yet again. Phantasmagoria is also a record store and cafe, but the owner made a poor choice in location. This is the second show I've seen there, and the second time there's been a serious problem with WTOP (a local news station) bleeding into the sound system. Although the Fairies had a good sense of humor about it, it's very frustrating to have mood-enhancing music interrupted by the latest Monica Lewinsky news. ==> Valerie n.p. Jane Brody -- Grin n.r. Vanity Fair -- Lord Thackerey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:40:01 EST From: AURALG@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #51 Just passin' through.......Endless Dream is from the "Talk" album. bye KB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:38:22 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: cds/response/Jennifer Kimball In a message dated 2/13/98 12:34:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu writes: << Jennifer Kimball: I could ask this on dog-dreams, but I'll do it here: I've heard and liked one song off the EP--what's she like? What's in the works? >> Well, you can hear how she blends so wonderfully with Jonatha Brooke on the records they put out as "The Story." There are also a few sound samples from her EP "Demo" on her website: http://www.jenniferkimball.com/ The website, which is under construction, briefly mentions the fact that one of the sound samples is "From Jennifer's forthcoming album now under production," so it sounds like it shouldn't be too long before we get to hear more of her. She and Lucy Kaplansky were guest vocalists with a new folk-group called "Wayfaring Strangers." From their website: <> Jill :D < waving to Jessica ;-) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:10:45 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: embarrassment... etc. well, in many ways what I consider my most embarassing purchase is so only in retrospect - I was somewhere around 10, I think. Just *had* to get the "Love Me Tender" 45 (at the local record/hi fi store where you could listen to the LPs & 45s on the store's turntable). Not embarassing as such, but ... quite awhile later, like when I was packing "my stuff" to move out on my own, I think, I noticed that ... the version of the song on the 45 wasn't even by Elvis!! doh! Well, I obviously wasn't seriously into music till a bit later . quite a bit later, like late high school, I 'progressed' to the first LPs I remember buying - Kenny Rogers & the First Edition, and Neil Diamond - Velvet Gloves & Spit (I was stuck on "brooklyn roads"). Didn't have to buy the Beatles - my younger sister was into them so I could borrow hers (kind of opposite to the typical listening influence). Then in pre-ectoish anticipation, I seem to have discovered Joan Baez and her early ballad type recordings... some 50+ Baez-containing LPs occupy way too much storage space. other embarassing event - some time in the 80s, I took a bunch of LPs to a local used-record store to sell. When adding up the total, the owner told me he couldn't take ... my complete set of Helen Reddy albums! Its been fun to read the 'firsts' and 'embarrassments' - they remind me of quite a lot of my own listening memories. But again, those 'high school listens' for others were things I bought and listened to when I was out of college ... embarassing? the first CDs were Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA and David Bowie - Let's Dance. Also bought before I had a CD player - but used as listening samples as I did buy it (a Hitachi single-disc player that my sister is using now!) .. 1984 - year of the Go-Go's. now in an attempt to climb out of this hole of embarassing listening - how about the first 2 concerts I taped on my Sony stereo cassette player - Judy Collins and Buffy St. Marie - and I still have the very seriously degraded tapes. um, work listens - I actually have a 'work set' of CDs that stay there (complete sets of recordings by Melissa Etheridge, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Melissa Ferrick, Eleanor McEvoy, Mary Black, Frances Black, Lisa Moscatiello, and Susan Werner), which I augment with whatever I'm currently stuck on ... this month it seems to be Susan McKeown's "Bushes & Briars", "Buena Vista Social Club" (Ry Cooder & the Afro-Cuban Allstars), Janis Ian's "Hunger", Afro-Cuban All Stars, "Introducing Ruben Gonzalez", and Jami Sieber - "lush mechanique" ... yes, I'm into instrumentals, particularly afro-cuban, lately. Regards, Carolyn Andre - ------------------- Chicago, IL / USA | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet candre@enteract.com | Carolyn's House of Music: http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:22:20 -0500 From: roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves) Subject: Re: cds/response > >What is the Internet only EP, and where can I get it? > >==> Valerie > > It's called "What Do you Hear in these sounds", it's the EP celebrating the release of the single for that song. It's got two versions of that song plus some never-previously released versions of other songs, and a new one called "Wilder than her" that she recorded with Fred Eaglesmith. Either off of Dar's website or at her concerts (which iswhere I got it...). - --K - --------------------------------------------------- Kay S. Cleaves Brown University Stage Manager, Sweeney Todd 401-863-6650 Pager: 1-800-759-8888 x182-1000 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:56:30 -0500 (EST) From: Alan Moorse Subject: Childhood music I've been off-line for a few weeks and am just catching up, loving this thread enough to delurk for a moment. You see, I'm simultaneously reading all these memories while listening to many of my own. I just got a tape deck in the house for the first time in a couple of years, so now when my spousal unit's not around, I can listen to all my old tapes that she can't stand. (We're almost always together in the car, and neither of us has a Walkman.) Yesterday was Zappaday, this morning's been oldfolkday (Ever heard of Richard Dyer-Bennett, Stinson album SLP2?), with tapes of my early LPs (beginning with ELP's Tarkus and Shawn Phillips' Bright White) scheduled for the afternoon. Right now, I've regressed to Dick Hyman's Moog album (includes The Minotaur and Tap Dance in the Memory Banks). Now if only I had tapes of those Winnie the Pooh albums, stories read by Maurice Evans, as I recall... AlanM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:28:11 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: embarrassment... etc. Carolyn Andre wrote: >quite a bit later, like late high school, I 'progressed' to the first LPs I >remember buying - Kenny Rogers & the First Edition, and Neil Diamond - That reminded me that my first poprock concert was Kenny Rogers & The First Edition. I was 12 or 13. We even stayed afterwards and got autographs and a crush on one of the guitar players. Can't even remember his name now. Kin something? Kim maybe? Gotta remember that not all that many people came to Victoria, B.C. The first arena concert I went to was the Osmonds, and I had to go to Vancouver for that. The worst thing was that I myself was embarrassed by going. Even at 13 I thought I was "too old" for them and was embarrassed that I liked them. I didn't tell anyone at school that I'd gone. Mind you, if I'd been allowed to and could have afforded to I would have gone to see Bowie's Ziggy Stardust tour in Vancouver. But that was a year later. The only really good concerts I remember going to at all in Victoria were a _Humans_-era Bruce Cockburn concert and a _Testimony_-era Ferron concert. Can't think of any others. It took me a long time to think that live music was worth going to since my record collection was better than any band that played where I was living until I moved to Seattle in my late-20s. Hard to undo that conditioning from living so long where the only bands that came were ancient history (Beach Boys, T Rex, in Victoria) or pretty lame (Missoula, Montana). - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:56:56 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: embarrassment... etc. At 10:28 AM 2/13/98 -0700, Neile Graham wrote: >Carolyn Andre wrote: > >>quite a bit later, like late high school, I 'progressed' to the first LPs I >>remember buying - Kenny Rogers & the First Edition, and Neil Diamond - > >That reminded me that my first poprock concert was Kenny Rogers & The First >Edition. I was 12 or 13. We even stayed afterwards and got autographs and >a crush on one of the guitar players. Can't even remember his name now. >Kin something? Kim maybe? > Kin Vassey. He was the dark curly-haired successor to Mike Settle, the original guitar guy. I think Kin replaced Mike about the same time as Mary Arnold replaced original vocalist Thelma Camacho. And about the time the group's music turned from acid light rock (I was hooked in '65-ish time, with "Just Dropped In (to See What Conditon my Condition Was In" - guess I was in training for later attraction to Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" ....) to more country style -- which we in the US saw more of with their "Rollin' " television show ... by which time I recall watching it on my own tv in my first post-college apt! The drummer of the group went by a couple of names on different album credits - including Micky Jones. I was quite surprised to see him some years later appearing in biker/construction worker type 'extra' roles on tv shows - even with a few lines on some occasions. Thelma appeared in a walk-on on one of the Mod Squad episodes .... she also tried a solo career about the same time that Anne Murray (Canadian reference here :-) got started - 69-70 - I remember seeing them on (different nights) the same music variety show back then. more than anyone wanted to know about childhood memories ...all the more embarassing to admit that I wrote this without looking *anything* up!! (only excuse - took the day off from work, so my brain obviously has not been turned on yet) actually, Rogers played jazz (stand-up double bass, I think) - with the Bobby Doyle Trio before he formed the First Edition. kind of deteriorated musically, over the years IMHO >Gotta remember that not all that many people came to Victoria, B.C. well, first we US types are geographically challenged . Besides, anyplace that requires taking a ferry or small plane - or long drive to the one bridge (isn't there one to the north a bit??) was probably too complicated for agents to figure out!!! > ...The >first arena concert I went to was the Osmonds, and I had to go to Vancouver >for that. The worst thing was that I myself was embarrassed by going. >Even at 13 I thought I was "too old" for them and was embarrassed that I >liked them. I didn't tell anyone at school that I'd gone. ^^^^^^^^ laughing~!! great adolescent conflict - going "all the way" over to Vancouver for a show but not able to tell anyone about it because of the band you went to see! how typical of the things we put ourselves through at times while growing up, isn't it Osmonds!!! . I admit I was quite surprised to see Donny on one of those VH-1 round-table conversations a few years ago - somehow I never imagine him as "grown up". >Mind you, if I'd been allowed to and could have afforded to I would have >gone to see Bowie's Ziggy Stardust tour in Vancouver. But that was a year >later. One of the few arena style shows I saw was Bowie on the Glass Spider Tour. It had a grandiose style and staging which certainly leant itself to the oversized environemnt! Regards, Carolyn Andre - ------------------- Chicago, IL / USA | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet candre@enteract.com | Carolyn's House of Music: http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 15:06:33 -0500 From: cjmacs Subject: delurking for a thread or two... ...the door creaks loudly and slowly the lurker steps out into the light, eyes blinking madly..... hey ecto! nothing like a few good threads to bring everyone out into the open! ;-) my first lp record (purchased): MEET THE SUPREMES - $2.49 at Grand Way ...and it even came with a poster of the gals that hung in my bedroom for years... my first 45 (purchased): THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKING - Nancy Sinatra - - $.39 at Woolworth's this was the soundtrack for our basement disco - my two younger sisters shimmied on top of the coffe tables wearing their white go-go boots while my two younger brothers pointed flashlights on them through the bottom of mom's green crystal ashtrays (to give it that psychedelic swirly-light look!) while i played dj and artistic director!!! my first cd(s): FACE VALUE - Phil Collins, ARCHITECTURE AND MORALITY - OMD, BARTOK: CONCERTO FOR ORCHESTRA - Sir Georg Solti way back in 1981-82 i had a friend that worked for phillips. on one of his trips back from japan he brought joe and i a prototype cd player which he lent us for a few months. this was before cds or players were available here in the u.s.a. these were the first cds we bought and they were all we had for a while! the only place we could find discs for sale was through advertisements in the back of gramophone magazine. the only retail stores carrying them were in tokyo and london. can you imagine: we used to get up at 4 am to call england to order cds and had to pay $25-30 each!!!! i'll never forget the FIRST CD STORE IN NEW YORK CITY!! i can't recall the store's name but it was on broadway in the seventies. all of the discs were displayed in drawers inside a small end-table-type cabinet. this meant squatting down and flipping through the selection of 200 discs they had, which was a HUGE quantity back then! no long boxes, no shrink wrap, just bare naked cds in jewel boxes! and again at that time they were all $25+ each! my most embarassing music purchase ever: at one time i would have said my ABBA records, but now i'd have to say anything by BILLY JOEL most disappointing to hear on cd after a long time: REMEMBER THE FUTURE - Nektar i was so excited to see this come out on cd that i gladly paid import prices for it...and when i got it home and listened to it after many many years i realized it was a piece of overblown pompous dreck! fave movies of 1997: MRS. BROWN, FULL MONTY, THE ICE STORM, IN THE COMPANY OF MEN, WINGS OF THE DOVE, THE PILLOW BOOK, NIL BY MOUTH, WELCOME TO SARAJEVO, ULEE'S GOLD enjoyed: SCREAM 2, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, AS GOOD AS IT GETS, CONTACT saw it, hated it: FIFTH ELEMENT (sorry milla!), GOOD WILL HUNTING (robin williams now annoys me to no end...), IN AND OUT, CHASING AMY (these two were alternately patronizing and flat-out insulting to gay people. we ain't no flavor-of-the-month, honey! *SNAP* ;-) absolute worst movie of the year, maybe of all time: MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL (or, how to take an o.k. book, totally ruin it by changing the story, then add a tired old drag queen who spoke like her mouth was full of marbles, and on top of it, use the beautiful backdrop of savannah and make it look like downtown poughkeepsie!! ..ugh i can't go on....but i will.....i had more enjoyment watching kevin spacey's horrifyingly awful hairpiece move forward and back from scene to scene. didnt ANYBODY NOTICE????? this was as bad as the people in TITANIC plunging to their deaths while riding dollies down the ship's inclined deck!) going to see tonight: THE APOSTLE btw, any ct-philes going to paula cole at toad's? meredith? ttfn, chuck n.p. labradford: labradford n.r. kathy reichs: deja dead ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:08:54 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Susan Werner Boston concert & radio this weekend! Susan's playing in Concord, MA at the Emerson Umbrella at 8pm. Tickets are still available (call 978-369 4127 for info). If you're going to be at the show, let me know and I'll keep an eye out for you. Also, Susan is going to be on WUMB 91.9 tonite (Friday)at 6pm and on WERS (88.9) at 9am on Saturday. - -Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: lanblind@teleport.com Subject: Re: Katell Keineg thanks Jill, Katell is very interesting, thanks for all the info...does anyone at Ecto know much about Johnatha Brooke's music? Can you describe it? Land of the Blind ALMOST had a chance to open for her and it was our night at WOW hall in Eugene and the big boys were calling from Seattle and NY and so we did it, being the little guy, we gave them our great night hoping that someday they would help us,,,,haha but I would like to know more about her if anyone knows.cy, LAND OF THE BLIND PS If any Seattle Ecto heads are out and about tonight THE BLIND is playing a Tibean Benefit in Seattle with some very interesting groups with fem vocals at the Pilgrams Center for Performing Arts @ 7:30 in the Capital Hill area..please come up and introduce yourselfs. cy Land of the Blind c/o NW New Music 3439 NE Sandy Blvd., Suite 266 Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. 97232 (503) 321-5093 email lanblind@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~lanblind/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:32:55 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: Katell Keineg LandBlind asks: << does anyone at Ecto know much about Johnatha Brooke's music? Can you describe it? >> I love Jonatha's music. I think when I first heard her ("Plumb" by J.B. and Story) my first thought was that she was a more melodic version of Suzanne Vega. Her lyrics are wonderful ("No Better" and "Paris" from the aforementioned CD come to mind). She's a good guitarist. Her songs have an immediate hook without being too "pop". At least IMHO. I just got the new CD ".10c Wings". It's a little quieter than "Plumb", but no less funky. I would suggest listening to either of those CDs first, then check out Story (with Jennifer Kimball). I think they had two releases; "Angel In The House", and another whose title escapes me at present. I like them, but I don't think they are as consistenly interesting as the other two CDs. BTW, her husband Alain Mallet lays down some very tasty piano on much of her stuff. It's definitely more toward the mainstream (although not in a dull, radio-fodder way). I'll be interested to hear what you think. Take care...Java ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:51:53 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: Re: Lisa, Cassandra etc. Jet Girl wrote: > > First off where is Cassandra Wilson playing, I absolutely *love* her. at the lisner auditorium in washington dc this sunday night. barbara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 20:42:33 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: Katell Keineg In a message dated 2/13/98 6:59:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, JavaHo@aol.com writes: << ".10c Wings". It's a little quieter than "Plumb", but no less funky. I would suggest listening to either of those CDs first, then check out Story (with Jennifer Kimball). I think they had two releases; "Angel In The House", and another whose title escapes me at present. >> The CD you're thinking of is "Grace in Gravity," which is probably my second favorite-- after Plumb. I haven't really listened to Ten Cent Wings as much as I should to form an intelligent opinion of it. Anyway, you can hear sound clips of some of Jonatha's older and new songs at her new *official* web page: http://www.jonathabrooke.com/ I just love her voice! Something about it just fills me with emotion...... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:45:10 -0600 From: "Chad Lundgren" Subject: Ani DiFranco at Last 'Lo all, It's funny. It was just about a year ago when I posted to the list asking for advice on checking out Ani DiFranco. She was coming to Milwaukee and I was wondering whether I should hear some of her Cd's before seeing her live or would the live performance stand alone. The general response I received was that Ani is best experienced live. Needless to say, I dragged my heels and passed on the concert. I probably spent that night mindlessly watching tv (much like the loser I was). Fast forward to about a month later. I see the video for "In or Out" from Living in Clip on MTV's 120 Minutes. I thought, "Pretty decent. Maybe I'll check it out." A couple days later, I purchased LiC and started listening to it. What came next was a futile attempt at kicking myself in the head. What the hell did I do???! Ani's energy and stage presence came through loud and clear on the CD. I was rapidly falling in love with the music and I just passed up a golden opportunity to see her live! Major regret...More kicks to the head... I felt like the most idiotic person around. And you guys told me to check her out. I didn't listen! D'OH!!! Fast forward to today. I own a couple of more Ani CD's. I still love her music and am eagerly awaiting the release of her new album next week. What do I spy? Ani returns to Milwaukee April 18th??? Well, this story has a happy ending boys and girls because I am now the proud new owner of two tickets to that performance. I'm happy as happy can be. The icing on the cake is....Dar Williams is coming on April 9th. My feet didn't touch the ground today as I went about my daily routine and on Friday the 13th no less. Thanks to all who said positive things about Ani and got me to check her out. I'm just sorry it took so long for my thick skull to allow the info in. Later all..... Chad Check out my band's website at http://www.arcfile.com/hiptones The Indispensible Hiptones (a pretty decent R&B band) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:57:30 -0800 From: "Larry S. Greenfield" Subject: "newbie" (sort of) intro Hi! I just subscribed to the "ecto" list (after 2 or 3 failed attempts over the last year), and I want to introduce myself. I'm Larry Greenfield; I first found out about this list from the Jewel List (Everyday Angels), and I "think" I know one or two of you ectophiles! I see that people are talking about their first records, concerts, cds, etc., so I'll toss my recollections out: My first single purchased, I think, was "Flying Purple People Eater" (1959?). My first LP was Dion's "Runaround Sue" (1961?). My first live concert was Judy Collins at Carnegie Hall, 1966 (I'm pretty sure). My first "arena" concert was Blind Faith at Madison Square Garden, July 11, 1968 (my 18th birthday!). It was also the first concert ever held at the "new' Garden. Those guys performed on a circular revolving stage. The sound sucked, big time. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. My first CD was "The Doors' Greatest Hits" (1988). Thank god/dess for all the music! Seeya! - -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 22:55:13 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Lisa Cerbone On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Paul Blair wrote: > Hey, I remember that song from the show--it's called "Stalls When it's not > Warm"! Thanks, Neal! (Now if I could only remember how the tune goes...) Here, let me help you, it starts, la la, la la la laaa, la la lalalaa lalaa lalaa, and keeps going from there :) neal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 22:53:30 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: "newbie" (sort of) intro On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Larry S. Greenfield wrote: > I just subscribed to the "ecto" list (after 2 or 3 failed attempts over > the last year), and I want to introduce myself. I'm Larry Greenfield; I > first found out about this list from the Jewel List (Everyday Angels), > and I "think" I know one or two of you ectophiles! Hi Larry! Welcome to ecto. Glad to see you finally made it here. When you were trying to subscribe before, it was the time of the great ecto disaster, where ecto's old home blew up and it was gone for many weeks before Jeff W gave it a new home. I woulda told you, except your business card inexplicably has no e-mail address on it. Glad you finally arrived though. Hope it's worth it for you. I got a copy of your tape of the Bel Air show from Alan and love it! neal np; Hand to Mouth - Calling Madeleine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:29:24 -0500 (EST) From: Meredith Tarr Subject: victoria williams on atc Hi! Just a quick note to let everyone in the US know that Victoria Williams will be profiled on NPR's All Things Considered this afternoon. I'm not sure exactly when, but usually such things happen at the end of an hour, so I'd say either at the end of the first or second hours, depending on when it's on in your area. For a listing of stations, check out . Usually things that air on All Things Considered are available via RealAudio later, though the last time they had a musical artist of note on (Mary Lou Lord a couple weekends ago) that was the only segment for which they *didn't* have a RealAudio link. :P We'll have to see. Hope this gets to people in time to be useful... Meredith .sigless in Connecticut ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 98 17:13:24 EST From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: Yes medley and first records Hi! It's been quite a while since I've spoken up here. Someone had a question about the Yes medley that hasn't been answered yet so I thought I'd provide an answer. The first song of the medley (can't remember the name) is indeed a Trevor Rabin song, and I think it's on a solo album of his, but I could be wrong about that. The second one is of course "Soon" which is part of Gates of Delirium from the Relayer album, but most of you knew that one too. The third song is Endless Dream from the album Talk, the last one with Trevor Rabin on it. It's one of those long songs, I think about 15 minutes or so. It's the only song that really grabbed me from that album, but I know a couple of people who thought that album was brilliant. Go figure. The last song is Hearts from the 90125 album. I love that song, and I wish she had expanded on that one a bit. So there you have it! If anyone is interested, I would highly recommend a recent Yes album which is Keys to Ascension 2. The first disc is all the live tracks that weren't on Keys 1, and the second disc is 5 new tracks from Anderson, Howe, Squire, Wakeman, and White. The new tracks are much better than the ones on Keys 1, and for a while I just couldn't stop listening to it. I wish I could say the same for the other new Yes album Open Your Eyes which they made after Wakeman flew the coop again. After listening to Keys 2, Open Your Eyes was a big disappointment. Anyway, that's enough about a band that many people are embarrassed to have records of. Nice grammar, Tamar. I guess I should really be embarrassed--I was actually in a progressive rock band. Now for the funny part. The first record I ever owned was a Christmas gift given to me from my mom when I was six. It was a Donny Osmond record. I loved him, and I listened to this record all the time. I can't remember what record I first bought with my own money. Among the first was a Beach Boys record, Spirit of America. I listened to a lot of cheesy rock in the 80s, like Journey, but hey, I lived in the Bay Area where Journey was ubiquitous at the time. I think it's more embarrassing to admit to the stuff you listened to after you have a clue. I mean, Donny Osmond at 6 years old, you can't really hold me responsible for that, can you? While I was pining away for Donny, my sister was into Tony Difranco of the Difranco Family. Anyone remember them? Buehler? No relation to Ani that I know of. However, if my sister's childhood dream had come true, her name would have been Ani Difranco! Before I really start to babble, I should go. My head is pounding. If any of you out there are considering a career in biological science, think again...... - --Tamar ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #52 *************************