From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #49 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, February 12 1998 Volume 04 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Missing Persons [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] whoa massive thread. [pink ] Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: Embarassing cds/Emm Gryner Question [Steve I ] Bad superheroes, Missing Persons, and sundry [David Dixon ] Re: Emm Gryner/Canadian songstresses [Michael Colford ] Re: Former Lava Hay [isometric plaything ] Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) [Michael Colford ] Re: First Album AND mix tapes [Riphug@aol.com] Re: Emm Gryner/Canadian songstresses [Michael Colford ] Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) [Magenta <4dm@qlink.queensu.ca] top ten movies of 1997 ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] Re: Oops!!! [Neal Copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:04:19 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: Missing Persons Hi, My first video recorded to keep was Surrender Your Heart by MP and directed by Peter Max. I fell in love with SYH. Later a friend and I were allowed to go thru a college radio's slush pile and we found some BBC Concert series vinyls, licenced for play in one specific week's time. Live MP was there and WOW! I ended up getting them all (and Dale's Riot in English). (also in the live pile: Lene Lovitch-she had a cold, Duran Duran, Bob Marley in london-announcer says 'hope you at home are dancing, they aren't here, even 'tho there is space", The Teardrop Explodes, and UB40-live they're not bad. King Crimson-Starless era, with english audience who only clapped politely, sheesh!!) bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:09:36 -0600 From: pink Subject: whoa massive thread. NEIL said: > * Grace - If I could fly. Don't ask. Let's just say that one track heard >in a record shop is not always sufficient grounds to buy an album. I >should have judged this one by the cover - it's crap! Anyone want it? actually this does have a wretched cover, but i don't mind it all that much. i like track 4 (ONE DAY) though perhaps it was because i was feeling melancholic toward my ex when i picked up, and this song struck a note with me (sample lyrics "one day you'll see, you should never never have left me, one day there only be the moments that you miss me"). but the rest of the CD is pretty throw away (actually i haven't listened to it in ages, but the first 4 tracks aren't bad if i remember correctly, for light disposable disco). on another note though, i like the logo they came up with for GRACE (the g in a form of an @ symbol). and i never thought that when i asked about the embarrasing CD's the thread would have exploded like this. as for first purchase i have to chime in and say that my first VINYL album was NEW EDITION (the first one, with MR. TELEPHONE MAN "there's something wrong with my phone!"). the first tape was IRENE CARA's OH A WHAT A FEELIN' which is equally embarrasing as the above, but in truth my second tape i still own and occasionally listen to CYNDI LAUPER's SHE'S SO UNUSUAL. i still love cyndi (finally picked up SISTERS OF AVALON and really enjoy it). though poor cyndi. i don't know what is up with her record company, but the video for her latest single (THE BALLAD OF CLEO AND JOE) is wretched. forced to make videos with a camcorder in what looks like her basement, is truly sad. makes me feel sad too. and that bad wig she is wearing too... oh yeah, and the first CD i bought SWING OUT SISTER's KALEIDOSCOPE WORLD. a dissappointing CD, in comparison to their first CD, and subsquential CD's by them but oh well.... hmmm....and the first 45 would be PACMAN FEVER. in truth i never really got into 45's until much later, when they became indie staple (though they are referred to as 7"s now) at punk shows and such. as for completely embarrasing CD's i have to say that owning the FAME! LIVE tape is up there (from their live tour that they did, actually inherited it from my brother, but in truth i did listen to it an awful lot back then). and by the way VALERIE, my three best friends in jr high and high school were big ole DURAN-IES. All i remember is that Jill Levinsky loved Nick Rhodes the best, and that i once played the duran duran board game with Debra Linker. If anyone wants a ROGER TAYLOR poster by the way, i just discovered a mint condition one. along with a MADONNA WHO'S THAT GIRL poster (though i am keeping that one for sentimental reasons). other posters in my archive are several CYNDI LAUPER ones (she's still the shebop girl to me), a BANARAMA one (back before they became the playthings of Stock Aitken Waterman, we're talking a cruel summer here), and an ECHO and the BUNNYMEN one (hmmmm, how progressively alterna-goth of me - much cooler than all my friends obsession with THE CURE, after all E and the Bmen are still cited as being incredibly influential, and well the cure and robert smith suck now). i was a damn cool kid back then! whoops. well, we won't look at that Debbie Gibson poster i had too. forgot about that one. ugh. shake you love! i just can't shake....your love! hey she did write her own songs though (i think i once wrote a paper comparing the late 80's TIFFANY/DEBBIE GIBSON phenomena to the mid 80's CYNDI LAUPER/MADONNA phenomena but now that i look back there obviously is no comparison other than the hair color dichotomy. AND, of COURSE, i didn't take into account the wild card of MARTIKA "watch them all fall down, toy soldiers..." - hey, she's damn cool, she collaborated with PRINCE, back when he was PRINCE....) on a completely different topic, i just have to public thank BOB KOLLMEYER. he added me on to the guest list for HOLLY COLE. everyone was right, it was an amazing show. truly amazing. thanks bob for doing that. perhaps i will post later about the show (though enough people have raved about the show, that you would be a fool to miss her if she comes around) bob got to meet her later on after the show (i had to take off and do work that i had been putting off, wrote a paper that was due yesterday that i had four weeks to do, and that i hadn't started until, well yesterday after the show)...how was it? love irvin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:34:06 -0600 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) I'm surprised and very pleased to see that Jane Siberry has not one, but *2* songs in Oscar-nominated films this year! The song "Temple" is in the Jack Nicholson/Helen Hunt movie "As Good As It Gets" which was nominated for Best Picture, and a character in the film "The Sweet Hereafter" (nominated for Director and Adapted Screenplay) sings part of "One More Colour." Congratulations to Jane! NON-ECTO AHEAD Speaking of movies, although I couldn't come up with a Top 10 music list to save my life, I can do it with movies. Most of these are recent films simply because Chris and I have been going movie mad for the last couple months and they're fresh in my mind. There's still quite a few films from last year I haven't seen yet, but of the ones I have seen, these were my favorites (with some Oscar nomination commentary): 1. L.A. Confidential (should win Best Picture) 2. Titanic (will win Best Picture) 3. Kundun (should have been nominated!) 4. Ulee's Gold (good for Peter Fonda!) 5. Ponette (the little girl *is* Best Actress) 6. Jackie Brown (how wonderful for Robert Forster) 7. Boogie Nights (Ditto Reynolds and Moore) 8. Men In Black (hey, I loved it, what can I say?) 9. The Boxer (saw it 3 times, for Emily Watson) 10. The Ice Storm (shut out, damn damn damn) Honorable Mention, just missed Top 10: Donnie Brasco (where's Al????) Wag The Dog (glad it wasn't nominated for BP though) Good Will Hunting (instead of Kundun? what??) The Full Monty (instead of Kundun??? what????????) Other films I really liked, in no particular order: In The Company Of Men Amistad Fast, Cheap & Out Of Control The Fifth Element Shall We Dance? Delinquent (thanks Mitch!) The Tango Lesson Contact The Game Chasing Amy Grosse Pointe Blank As Good As It Gets Waiting For Guffman In & Out Face/Off The End of Violence Saw, were ok, had some redeeming qualities: Private Parts (was actually quite sweet) Austin Powers (Dr. Evil!) Con Air (Steve Buscemi) Air Force One (Gary Oldman & the plane) Seven Years In Tibet (the mountains, the music and the actor who plays the Dalai Lama made this worth seeing once) Wings Of The Dove (Helena was great playing a stupid character) Scream 2 (Buffy goes boom) Mouse Hunt (psycho cat!) Disliked much: The Sweet Hereafter (great scenery & Ian Holm performance though) I didn't see any movies I downright hated, because I stayed away from movies I thought I might hate, such as Speed 2 and Batman & Robin. It seems as if I've seen a lot of movies, until I realize I have yet to see Career Girls, The House of Yes, Female Perversions, Welcome to Sarajevo, Eve's Bayou, 4 Little Girls,The Apostle, The Winter Guest, Hard 8, Afterglow, Mrs. Brown, Box of Moonlight, Cop Land, The Rainmaker, Midnight In The Garden of Good and Evil, Traveller and Gattaca, among others, which is why none of them are on my lists. I will see them all sooner or later. Vickie Lisa McPherson Memorial Page http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/lisa.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:42:37 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: Re: Embarassing cds/Emm Gryner Question Jessica wondered, re: Emm Gryner's upcoming release: >for either the EP, CD, or both, but *when* is her cd coming out? Anyone >have a clue yet? I can't wait!!! I'm in the process of updating the site with this info now. Mercury plans to release Emm's new album in the U.S. on June 23rd, with the Canadian release coming sometime after that. Emm thinks that this date might be a tad optimistic but hopes that it will be out by September. One interesting tidbit is that her album will be released on vinyl in addition to CD and cassette, which surprised me for a U.S. release. Unfortunately the EP will be a promo-only item. - ---------------------- There're a couple of soundtracks I forgot to mention in my most embarrassing CDs post: - - Beverly Hills Cop II - - Grease II (containing the great song "Reproduction" which features the clever line "I've got your pistil right here baby") - ---------------------- BTW, who was asking for suggestions about good compilations? The one I'm listening to right now is lots of fun although only parts of it are ecto-fodder. I know it's been mentioned before on ecto, but _Stay Awake_ is a collection of covers of Disney songs including Natalie Merchant and Michael Stipe doing "Little April Showers" (from _Bambi_... I *love* this song!), Sinead O'Connor doing "Someday My Prince Will Come", and a gorgeous a-capella performance of the lullabye "Stay Awake" by Suzanne Vega. np: Stay Awake Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve I | Check out cool Toronto artists Sarah Slean & Emm Gryner Toronto, CAN | at NORTHERN SOUNDS: http://webhome.idirect.com/~nsounds/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:47:14 +0100 From: David Dixon Subject: Bad superheroes, Missing Persons, and sundry meth wrote: >The other life-shaping musical force in my life was the Doctor Demento show. Oh yes, definitely. A couple years ago I rediscovered some cheesy audiotapes I had made as a 12-year-old of songs on that show. "Existential Blues" anyone? I listened to him a couple times in Berkeley while in grad school there, but the magic was gone (and so too, it seems, is his market-- hardly anyone broadcasts that show anymore!) >I thought of an even more embarrassing album from my youth -- though I >don't know if it counts because it was a gift, I didn't buy it myself. >Does anybody remember a *really* stupid tv show called The Greatest >American Hero? It ran on ABC for a couple years around 1981 or so, and was >about a guy who found a superhero costume dropped on him by aliens, which >gave him super powers whenever he put it on. Anyway. The theme song was >by a dude named Joey Scarbury, who probably never did anything else in his >life. Well, folks, I had that album. I can do you one better. I went out and bought the *sheet music* for "Believe It Or Not (Theme to 'The Greatest American Hero')." One of my childhood friends topped me, though, by getting the lead actor William Katt's autograph. That reminds me... anyone remember "Automan," co-starring Desi Arnaz Jr. as a computer programmer who creates a computer-generated superhero, and goes around solving crimes? I swear, that was my favorite show (for the short time it was on). I don't remember the first 45 I bought, but I recall hearing "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas, "Hey Boogaloo" by someone, "Sugar Sugar" by the Archies, and a slew of others. I think the first 45 that my *brother* bought was "Renegade" by Styx. He had a pretty cool taste in music for a while there-- he introduced me to Nina Hagen and the Dead Kennedys when I was about 11 (now he listens to crap like The Mavericks and Junior Brown. :P). My junior high school German class was a bit taken aback by Ms. Hagen's _Nunsexmonkrock_ when I brought it in one day. I dug it. Still do. I haven't gotten to hear much Missing Persons, but I can give a simple reason why their musicianship was so top-flight--Frank Zappa. Besides Dale, the rest of the band were all late 70's FZ alums--Terry Bozzio, one of the most amazing drummers ever; Patrick O'Hearn on bass, who's done a number of decent darkish "new age" albums on his own Deep Cave label, and Warren Cuccurillo, who believe it or not is now a guitarist for...Duran Duran! We just had the Rotterdam International Film Festival here last week. Unfortunately, I only had time to go see a couple movies, one of which was awful ("The Atrocity Exhibition," based on the J. G. Ballard experimental novel), but the other, "What's So Funny About Me?" (a French film whose original title I forget) was wonderful. Harmony Korine's disturbing white-trash film "Gummo" was quite popular here--he's the 24-year-old who wrote the script for Larry Clark's devastatingly realistic film, "Kids". I would have seen it, but it was sold out. D^2 ====================================================================== David Dixon (D^2) dixon@qt.tn.tudelft.nl Department of Applied Physics, Delft University of Technology This week's bon mot: "Was Karl Marx buried in a communist plot?" ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:38:34 +0200 (EET) From: Markku Kolkka Subject: Re: First Album (was: embarrassing cd's) I can't resist delurking to add my contribution to this thread. My first cassette tape was Queen's "A Day at the Races". The first CD I bought was Peter Gabriel's "So". The closest thing to an embarrasing CD I have is either Paul Simon's "Graceland" or Candy Dulfer's "Saxuality". n.p. Finland - Canada (1-4 after two periods :-( ) n.r. Anne Rice: Lasher - -- Markku Kolkka mk59200@cc.tut.fi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:54:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: embarrassing/first cd's On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Chris Beckwith wrote: > meredith wrote: > > > On the topic of building things up in memory, last year I finally > > found a cheap copy of Wendy and Lisa's first album, the one with > > "Waterfall" on it. > > As a curious coincidence, yesterday the "M2 Hour" on MTV aired > "Waterfall" as part of a theme of Prince-related product (Sheila E.'s > "The Glamorous Life," The Bangles' "Manic Monday," etc.) W&L were > by far the best of the bunch. Man, I love Wendy & Lisa. Does anyone know if they're ever going to record again? Also, I haven't picked up the new Victoria Williams yet (although I plan to). How do Wendy & Lisa fit on that album? Michael (remembering fondly the amazing Wendy & Lisa show at Axis in Boston just after their last album.) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:51:00 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Emm Gryner/Canadian songstresses At 07:53 AM 2/11/98 -0500, Jill wrote: > >I've been collecting several Canadian *femvox* artists lately -- Barbara > >Lynch, Lenni Jabour (another *Tori sound-alike*), Mia Sheard, Lin Elder, > Wendy > >Lands, Jann Arden (of course), and Andrea Florian. > are also folks on the list who swear by Dalbello and Anhai although they're > not really my thing. > > Steve I'm one of those who swear by Dalbello, and if you don't mind a little mature anger and an interesting voice in your music, give her a try. I'm also a fan of Annette Ducharme who apparently has written for other artists such as Tom Cochrane, but has a couple albums out herself. Her first, Blue Girl, was basic '80's pop/rock, but great lyrics. Her last, called Don't Argue With Her in the States, while still retaining pop sensibilities, is a little more sophisticated. Some of my favorites haven't really recorded much lately, but I first discovered Canadian songstresses (aside from the Goddess, Jane Siberry) through Luba (a little pop, but a fabulous voice and I wish she would record again), Martha & the Muffins (aka M+M who put out some amazing albums and I would love to hear something new by them!; vocalist Martha Johnson has also put out a solo children's album), and The Parachute Club (with vocalist Lorraine Segato also having put out a solo album). Some fringe female vocalists who you may or may not like include Sass Jordan, Sue Medley, and Maria Del Mar (is that her name) from National Velvet. By the way, Jill, do you like the new Jann Arden? I'm enjoying it. It's mellower than her previous, but good songwriting. Michael - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:16:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Highnight" Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #47 To Java, you were looking for the lyrics to "The Keep". They were published in "Rhodeways" issue #10 - last page!!! Many of us were dying for those!!! You can order the issue from Sharon Nichols at terra@ulster.net Kevin D. Highnight "Never cry because you ------------------ think you cannot make it... khighnight@online.emich.edu You've made it this far, that's better than most" - Happy Rhodes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:16:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Highnight" Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #47 To Java, you were looking for the lyrics to "The Keep". They were published in "Rhodeways" issue #10 - last page!!! Many of us were dying for those!!! You can order the issue from Sharon Nichols at terra@ulster.net Kevin D. Highnight "Never cry because you ------------------ think you cannot make it... khighnight@online.emich.edu You've made it this far, that's better than most" - Happy Rhodes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:36:41 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: cds/response Neil K Guy writes: >Emm Gryner... there's one office where the guys are always playing >jazz Emm Gryner, yay! And... that office wouldn't be the one you all lovingly refer to as the 'skat pad' (sp?), is it? I know it well... :) Steve Ito writes: Re: Tara in Toronto >although she's moving back to Vancouver She's already there, actually. Yay! :) Vancouver rocks. Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:56:44 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Varker Subject: New Kate Bush!!! Finally! Some new Kate Bush music. The cut she has on the new Celtic Heartbeat Collection 2 is one of the most beautiful songs she's ever done in my opionion. It's entitled Mna Na heireann and is the 11th cut on the cd. Others on the cd are Anuna, Lunasa, Frances Black, Sinead O' Connor, and Christy Moore with Bono and The Edge. Overall a wonderful project. Should be available soon if not already. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:51:39 -0500 (EST) From: isometric plaything Subject: Re: Former Lava Hay > > > Well, here's what I know. I don't know what Michelle Gould (Taste of Joy) > is up to these days. Taste of Joy, her band post Lava Hay, is no longer on > Nettwerk. Suzanne Little is indeed married to former Grape of Wrath and now > Ginger member Tom Hooper, and they're proud parents of two strapping young > lads. I've asked whether Suzanne had anything to do with Jewel, and nobody > here thinks so. So. There you go! One of the former members of Lava Hay went onto a Vancouver band called the Beauticians, in case any one was interested (and I hadn't noticed it mentioned). - -cas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:40:45 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Xenu's Sister wrote: > I'm surprised and very pleased to see that Jane Siberry has > not one, but *2* songs in Oscar-nominated films this > year! The song "Temple" is in the Jack Nicholson/Helen Hunt > movie "As Good As It Gets" which was nominated for Best > Picture, and a character in the film "The Sweet Hereafter" > (nominated for Director and Adapted Screenplay) sings part > of "One More Colour." Congratulations to Jane! Having only seen The Sweet Hereafter recently, I have to say I thought Sarah Polley did an interesting and enjoyable job on "One More Colour." I loved the fact that Anne Bourne was the cellist in Sarah's band! > NON-ECTO AHEAD I'm a big movie fan as well, and for those of you who are interested, I'm going to pick up on Vickie's thread and list the movies I felt were exceptional in a largely bland year. It's funny, like Vickie, picking favorite music for a year is next to impossible, but movies? No problem! In no particular order: Hollow Reed (fabulous British film about a gay man -- played by one of my favorite actors, Martin Donovan -- trying to get custody of his son from his wife and her abusive boyfriend) L.A. Confidential (Vickie's right, of the nominees, this one deserves Best Pic) Lilies (Amazing Canadian film) The Myth of Fingerprints (Surprisingly good family drama filmed in Maine co-starring one of my favorite actors, Julianne Moore) The Wings of the Dove The Sweet Hereafter (Love Atom Egoyan; a haunting film) The Winter Guest (Far exceeded my expectations. Wonderfully acted, beautifully directed!) The Full Monty As Good As It Gets (Who'd have thought; a Jack Nicholson picture that I actually liked! Helen Hunt was superbly real and the writing was top notch) Margaret's Museum (2 amazing performances by Helena Bonham Carter!) Chasing Amy (Here's a film that I wouldn't see because it sounded so awful. When I finally did see it, I was very pleasantly surprised. There were a lot of complaints about the lesbian character falling in love with a straight guy, but as a gay guy, I found the motivations of all of the characters to be dead on, and while all their conversations sounded scripted, Kevin Smith had important things to say. Boogie Nights (For Burt and Julianne's performances, mostly, although Mark Wahlberg did a great job too.) Children of the Revolution (A flawed film, brought to these heights by the dizzyingly amazing performance of my favorite actress, Judy Davis) The Ice Storm (Ang Lee is a master of subtlety. Christina Ricci should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress!) Honorable Mentions: Alive and Kicking All Over Me Brassed Off Daytrippers Deconstructing Harry (for Judy Davis and Kirstie Alley who was surprisingly great!) Different for Girls Fairy Tale: a True Story Female Perversions Waiting for Guffman Ulee's Gold Ponette Shall We Dance? The Substance of Fire Movies I still really need to see: Afterglow, The Apostle, Wag the Dog, Never Met Picasso, The House of Yes, Nowhere, Bent, Designated Mourner, Eve's Bayou, Fire, Grosse Pointe Blank, In the Company of Men, Jackie Brown, Kundun and more. Biggest Disappointment: Good Will Hunting - Can you say, overhyped? While it was good, I just can't understand why critics are falling all over themselves over this treacly, simplistic film. Damon and Affleck do a good job with the screenplay, but is the hype because they're so young? I think that fact shows in the screen- play. And Minnie Driver for Best Supporting Actress? While she was good, the part was pretty underwritten. Worst Movies: Batman & Robin (I'm not sure why I saw it.) Absolute Power (I saw this for Judy Davis, but man was it boring!) Thanks for induldging! Michael n.p. (Talk about embarrassing!) Glass Tiger - Thin Red Line note to Vickie - Good taste in movies! - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:57:50 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: First Album In a message dated 2/11/98 5:36:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, valerie@smoe.org writes: << Hee hee...this gets me thinking back to my childhood 'albums'. Does anyone remember the plastic 45s they'd give out at fast-food restaurants, the ones where to hold it down you had to place a coin on the record? I know they gave them away at Jack in the Boxes. >> I remember some of those flimsy 78's that used to be inserted in magazines occasionally -- particularly National Geographic......like whale songs and educational stuff like that...... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:57:49 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: First Recordings In a message dated 2/11/98 10:36:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlovejoy@bellatlantic.net writes: << I picked up the first Spirit album before the back cover was printed in color. I've generally lived outside the musical mainstream, but I have enough respect for music to appreciate all genres. >> Oh, yeah.......I used to play "Nature's Way" over and over again.......Didn't Victoria Williams or someone recently do a cover of that? In the early '70's, I was also listening to King Crimson......I didn't realize that they're still popular these days.......at least in some places...... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:42:12 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: childhood music awareness In a message dated 2/12/98 12:37:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, barbearuh@erols.com writes: << i really liked claudine longet, simon & garfunkel and the mamas and papas (the latter two being the only hip music my parents owned). i also remember the 5th dimension's "up, up and away" pretty vividly, and the broadway LP of "hair". i of course had to have my manditory partridge family/donny osmond/jackson 5 stint, but by 5th grade was also listening to the beatles and elton john mostly. >> Oooooo, thanks, Barbara! I hadn't thought of Claudine Longet in ages! She sang "I Love How You Love Me," yes? In that whispery little voice of hers......with that French speaking stuff in parts of the song...... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:44:32 +0100 From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Re: New Kate Bush!!! > Finally! Some new Kate Bush music. The cut she has on the new Celtic > Heartbeat Collection 2 is one of the most beautiful songs she's ever done > in my opionion. It's entitled Mna Na heireann and is the 11th cut Isn't it the song on the compilation released two years ago? To join the crowd, CDs I have at work today: Echobelly _Lustra_ Ataranxia _Le fantoma del'Opera_ (with a KT's WH cover) Autour de Lucie _L'echappee belle_ _Immobile_ (preparing the concert next friday) Kristin Hersh _Strange angels_ YES!!! Nathalie Imbruglia _Left of the middle_ very poppy, not interesting at all (plus what is n.p.) Me, ectobsessed?! No! :-) Cheers, - -- Yves. n.p. Mercedes Audras _Mercedes Audras_ folk-pop singer from Argentina. she sings in French and is released by "Le village vert", Autour de Lucie label n.r. Neil Gaiman _Angels and visitations_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:39:00 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: First Album AND mix tapes Neal (who doesn't seem to respect his elders) wrote: << Gee Jill, I was sure you grew up listening to wax cylinders :) >> :P~~~~~ I'm not *that* old, Neal! At least not on this list......right? I've gotten the impression that there are at least a few other ectophiles (why do I always want to call us *ectolites*?) pushing 40......I'll be 43 in April. Oh.....and that thread about CD's you're listening to at work? Ummm......I'm a stay-at-home-mommy right now, so I listen to *everything* all day long! Although, lately I've been rather making up mix tapes for people so that they can *taste* a little music that they might not otherwise hear. So far I have six or seven different collections, including what I call an *obscure sound sampler*, *female folk sampler*, *just different bands*, and *mood music*. I'm getting ready to make a mix tape of songs with the word *angel* in the title.....and another one of songs which include people's names in their titles. I found a wonderful website to help in these projects. You can search on a word and it will give you a list of song titles which include that word. There were *nine* pages of songs with *angel* in them! (Although, a few of those were things like *Evangeline*) Geeze, I'm rambling again! *hugs and kisses* Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:31:39 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Emm Gryner/Canadian songstresses On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 Riphug@aol.com wrote: > I've been collecting several Canadian *femvox* artists lately -- Barbara > Lynch, Lenni Jabour (another *Tori sound-alike*), Mia Sheard, Lin Elder, Wendy > Lands, Jann Arden (of course), and Andrea Florian. Forgot to mention Mae Moore. Another ectoish Canadian artist. Her last album, Dragonfly was 1996, I believe? Certainly she's due for another. Any news? Michael - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:45:26 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) Well, I can't resist a favorite movies of the year thread since I see about 3 a week, so here are mine, in no particular order, with occasional commentary: 1. Chasing Amy (perhaps my favorite of the year. What a surprise after _Clerks_ and the dreadful _Mallrats_) 2. The Wings of the Dove (surprisingly enjoyable, especially since I had sworn off stuffy British films) 3. The Winter Guest (even though it was very slow-moving and light on plot, I found it incredibly engrossing) 4. Titanic 5. Hollow Reed 6. Contact 7. LA Confidential 8. Mrs. Brown (Judi Dench deserves the Oscar) 9. Deconstructing Harry (the first Woody Allen movie I've enjoyed since _Hannah & Her Sisters_) 10. Face/Off (silly and implausible, but I liked it anyway) Honorable Mentions: 1. Wag the Dog 2. Good Will Hunting (sappy and overhyped, but I enjoyed it more than I expected) 3. The Boxer 4. Female Perversions (Tilda Swinton was outstanding and some of the scenes will stick in my mind forever, even though the movie was sometimes tedious) 5. In the Company of Men 6. Men in Black 7. The Pillow Book 8. Red Corner Weren't Brilliant, but I Enjoyed Them: 1. The Game 2. Austin Powers 3. Scream 2 4. Grosse Pointe Blank 5. The Full Monty 6. In & Out 7. All Over Me 8. Private Parts 9. The Edge Huge Disappointments, Despite Rave Reviews: 1. Boogie Nights 2. The Ice Storm 3. The Sweet Hereafter 4. The Apostle 5. After Glow 6. Ulee's Gold 7. Ponette Had Potential and Wish They Had Been Better: 1. Midnight in the Garden of Good & Evil 2. Gattaca 3. Amistad 4. The House of Yes 5. Lost Highway And, I still need to see: Different for Girls, Intimate Relations, Face, Keep the Aspidistra Flying, Margaret's Museum, Nil By Mouth, Oscar & Lucinda, Eve's Bayou, Great Expectations, The Replacement Killers, Kundun, Welcome to Sarajevo, Live Flesh, Cop Land, The Myth of Fingerprints, etc., etc. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg stuart@sph.emory.edu Information Services stuart@emory.edu Rollins School of Public Health http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:55:50 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Varker Subject: Oops!!! Yves is correct, the Kate song is the same that was on the nCommon Ground cd. I had forgotten about that and did not remember the song. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:41:11 -0500 (EST) From: Magenta <4dm@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Stuart Myerburg wrote: > Well, I can't resist a favorite movies of the year thread since I see > about 3 a week Oh please guys...not to be rude, but this thread will blow the list up. Please stick to topic -- MUSIC. I'm a movie buff too, but this mailing list isn't designed for films. Now for an Ecto question...does anybody (maybe from Northern Europe?) have information on the Swedish band Pineforest Crunch? Kind of like Bettie Serveert with a Tori Amos-like vocalist in Asa (though Asa's voice is smaller and sweeter -- maybe weaker -- than Tori's). And the band uses FLUTES! I'm very much interested in a bio if there is one. I.D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:03:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: top ten movies of 1997 Since we're going on a movie thread, I couldn't not throw in my 2 cents. Here's the best of 1997: 1) Good Will Hunting: A film done with more heart and soul than any other this year. Everyone seemed to have poured everything they had into this project, and result is contagious, infectios, and a real crowd pleaser. Really moving, funny, and an awesome soundtrack. 2) LA Confidential: One of the most flawless films I've ever seen, with an intricately involving story, fine performances all around, some of the best direction I've ever seen, and a unique pace and tone. 3) Titanic: An epic sort of masterpiece that while flawed still was incredibly affecting. Its strength lies not in its $200 effects, but rather than story, which humanizes an 80-year old tragedy in a way that nothing else could. 4) Contact: Really underrated and thought-provoking sci-fi drama that made me question my own beliefs as the excellent Jody Foster was. INtriguing and beautifully shot. Bonus points for the female lead and the Matthew McCoughaney character that usually ends up going to the token female in a movie like this. Only flaw: the use of clips of President Clinton instead of a real actor in the President roll was just show-offy. 5) Face/Off: Really crazy story, but one of the most entertaining movies of recent years. Fine acting, and violence that is filmed with an almost operatic vision. Best use of music and editing that I've seen in a long time. 6) Chasing Amy: Kevin Smith's best movie yet, with a lovely little love story, intriguing and hilarious dialogue, and nice performances. 7) The Ice Storm: Really unsettling gem of a film that will leave you thinking about it for weeks. The best performances of the year highlight this dark, unusual that is one of those movies that's nearly impossible to describe cuz it's just so weird. 8) The Game: REally underrated thriller starring the excellent Michael Douglas. Completely involving and unpredictable storyline that warrants repeat viewings. 9) As Good As It Gets: Nice dialogue and performances (especially Greg kinnear) make this sometimes flawed and overlong movie a sweet find. Very uncliqued and unironic view on life, and that's refreshing. 10) Gattacca: REally underrated sci-fi film boasting an intriguing storyline and excellent performances from Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman, who is an icy delight. A nicely filmed gem. Some other really good ones: Scream 2: Superior to the original. Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion: The best dumb comedy of the year, even if that's not saying much. The worst of the year: Batman & Robin: Horrible dialogue, poor acting by the villains (including Arnold Schwartzenegger embarassing himself beyond belief), an unfocused story, and overwrought direction lowlight this film, which hopefully marks the end of the Batman series. - -- Mark A. Miazga "The thing about the rat miazgama@pilot.msu.edu race is even if you win, Michigan State University you're still a rat." 206 East Akers Hall, M.S.U. -- Lily Tomlin East Lansing, MI 48825-1372 (517) 353-2083 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:21:08 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Oops!!! On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Patrick Varker wrote: > Yves is correct, the Kate song is the same that was on the Common Ground > cd. I had forgotten about that and did not remember the song. Gee, does that make it the most beautiful [and forgettable] song she's ever done then? Actually, I have that disc too, and I can't bring the song to mind. Perhaps time to go play it again. Neal now shuffling over: Cowboy Junkies: Trinity Sessions disappear fear: seed in the sahara soul whirling somewhere: pyewackit the dear janes: no skin mistle thrush: agus amarach ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #49 *************************