From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #94 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, December 5 1997 Volume 03 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: time and love (a gripe) [ken@sj.ptc.com] Re: time and love (a gripe) [Neile Graham ] Re: time and love (a gripe) [Joseph Zitt ] Veda Hille news and sTuff [meredith ] News from Ingrid Karklins & Backbone [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:42:38 -0800 From: ken@sj.ptc.com Subject: Re: time and love (a gripe) This is my second try at sending this. The first time I sent it to ecto@ecto.org. I guess I've haven't posted in awhile. Yes "Poverty Train" is on it, performed by Patty Larkin. For me it is the best piece, followed by Holly Cole's "Sweet Blindness". Patty does a wonderful, down and dirty, bluesy rendition. I'm not that familiar with her other work which I thought was more folk than blues. Another person who I'm not familiar with is Leni Stern who does an instrumental version of "Upstairs by a chinese lamp". Does anyone know anything about her? What does she normally do? I liked most of it. The big disappointments for me were Suzanne Vega's "buy and sell" and Jonatha Brooke's "he's a runner". I just thought they were boring. As always, YMMV. Ken J. Wermont wrote on Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:04:57 -0800 (PST) : > > It didn't do that much for me, but I did love (maybe best of all) Holly > > Cole's "Sweet Blindness". > > > > --Neile > > I haven't listened to this CD, but I've looked at the cover and I know > what's on there (more or less). And I was really disappointed that the > performers chose to go almost exclusively with Nyro's hits - songs that > have already been covered by the 5th Dimension, Barbra Streisand, and > Blood Sweat and Tears, among others. In doing that they have eschewed > some of her most wonderful songs, such as "Timer," "Emmie," "The Confession" > and that song I can't remember the name of, the one that starts off, "My > lover's mouth, been so good to me..." (Can you tell I'm a fan of Eli & the > 13th Confession?? :)) I guess someone did do my favorite song from that > album, "Poverty Train." Or did they? Can't remember. Well, if that one's > not on there, then there's one more song to gripe about! My point being, > Laura Nyro's written a lot of great songs that no one's ever heard about, > and now they will continue to not hear about them. And meanwhile, do we > really need yet another version of Wedding Bell Blues?? > > Joyce > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:19:45 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: time and love (a gripe) At 5:04 PM -0800 12/3/97, J. Wermont wrote: >I haven't listened to this CD, but I've looked at the cover and I know >what's on there (more or less). And I was really disappointed that the >performers chose to go almost exclusively with Nyro's hits [snipped for length] Well, I think this is a generational thing--while her hits, especially as performed by other artists, were ubiquitous in my youth at least, I don't think many teens or twenty-somethings will ever have heard them as _songs_ or music they might potentially like though they may have heard them in the background in their parent's lives or in old tv & movies, the same way I heard stuff from the 40s and 50s when I was growing up. (FYI, I was born in '58). I think the marketing idea might have been to bring these great and catchy songs to the mainstream's attention--by introducing them to the younger market and by reminding those who were awake in the 70s about them--catching the nostalgia factor. I definitely know what you mean about there being other great lesser-known songs, though. My favourite album of hers (actually the only one I know really well) is _New York Tendaberry_. - --Neile n.p. (internal radio): "Time and Love" n.r. nothing--I'm in between books - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:23:53 -0600 (CST) From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: time and love (a gripe) On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 ken@sj.ptc.com wrote: > Another person who I'm not familiar with is Leni Stern who does > an instrumental version of "Upstairs by a chinese lamp". Does > anyone know anything about her? What does she normally do? For info about her, see http://www.jazzcorner.com/stern.html All I know about her that isn't on that page is that she is (or at least useta be 10 years ago when I was paying attention) married to fellow guitarist Mike Stern (formerly of Miles Davis's '80s bands). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 22:08:19 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Veda Hille news and sTuff Hi! First, some Veda Hille news that made me very very happy: she's taking a surprise trip back to New York City next week! She will be at CB's 313 Gallery next Thursday, 12/11 at 10 PM. At this point she doesn't know if she'll be solo or mit Smokin' Combo, but either way it's going to rock. She will also be at the Bottom Line on Friday, 12/12 performing at a birthday show in honor of Vin Scelsa, the delighted idiot himself. She's only doing one song, though, so not even this die-hard fan is considering it. woj and I will definitely be there on Thursday, though -- and maybe we'll even be able to squeeze in at least part of Mila Drumke's set down the street beforehand??? Could we be so lucky? Oh, and Veda will probably have copies of _Here Is A Picture_ (a.k.a. the Emily Carr cycle) with her next week. Whoo-hoo! Also, she is going to be signing with Bottom Line Records (yes, as in the club) to release her work in the U.S. Both _Path of a Body_ and _Spine_ will be released down here in March, with much touring and promotion et al. to follow. Yay!!! (Bottom Line Records is also Moxy Fruvous' American label. I don't know who else is on it.) RIP Michael Hedges. While I can't consider myself a "fan", and I don't own any of his work, I certainly appreciated it whenever I heard it, and I know that his death really is a loss to the music world. I wonder if Echoes will do any sort of a tribute? That show is where I heard the most of his music (and in fact there's a great segment of him performing in John DiLiberto's living room on a video collection I have lurking around here somewhere -- he *really* got into his playing!). Neil K. reported: > First, Sarah's going to be doing a walk-on part on the Ellen teevee show. >The episode is scheduled to be aired January 7 next year. I actually saw a mention of this on CNN on Thanksgiving Day, but I forgot to post it here. Apparently the Indigo Girls will also be in the same episode, wherein Ellen and her friends go to a music festival a la Lilith Fair. Michele of Golden Gate Park posted: >A couple of weeks ago I finally saw Susan McKeown play at Berkeley's >Freight and Salvage coffeehouse. Aha! I was wondering if any ectophiles had caught the West coast leg of the "tour" last month! >On stage were Susan >McKeown, Lindsey Horner, and a new guitarist whose name I didn't catch. Aidan um, Brennan, I think (help, Mike!). >I don't think I'm ready to call them my *favorites*, but I liked the show >and would make some effort to see them again next time they're on this >coast. Susan's voice was fabulous, and Lindsey Horner was way way cool. We call him the hepcat of the group. ;) >I think I would actually make more effort to see him perform again than I >would her, though she was good. If they play here together again, so much >the better. As a player he does far outshine Susan, but she wins the songwriting and singing contests. :) You'll see what I mean once you do listen to _Through The Bitter Frost and Snow_ -- the songs he wrote are quite nice, but Susan's compositions just have a certain something that his lack. I still think he's massively cool, though!!! >Anyhow, back to the Susan/Lindsey/? show. Due to the new guitarist, the >set list was pretty fixed, so I did not get to hear Salome after I asked >Susan if they could play it. Oh well. That's a pity. Even in the stripped-down trio version, it's a wonderful song. Chris Cunningham, who is their regular guitarist does amazing things with it. >We did get a somewhat impromptu >rendition of "Blue Moon" when guitar strings broke and had to be replaced. Isn't that great? Another Susan-and-Lindsey favorite of mine is the bass-and-vocal version of "She's Leaving Home" that completely and utterly blew me away the very first time I ever saw the Chanting House perform. I never saw them do it after that. >When I spoke to them at intermission I mentioned that I was there becuase >of all the great press they got on "ecto", and Susan mentioned meth and >woj and Neile and Jeff Wasilko by name as wonderful persons she has met >from ecto. Thought you'd wanna know she thinks of y'all even when in >California. Wow. I don't know whether to be impressed or scared. :) Urs resurfaced: >Hi peoples... I've finally got my own email address after two years, >and have only just resubscribed. Welcome back!!!!! Wow, a blast from the past. :) Good to see you alive and well and returned to the fold. WARNING -- IGNORANT JEWEL INQUIRIES AHEAD Alan forwarded: >February will primarily be devoted to >prep-work for the movie "To Live On" which is scheduled to >begin filming in Mid March & will continue off & on for several >months. ?!? Is she going to be in the film or something? Having just watched the Wizard of Oz thing on VH1 last weekend, I have to say I find the prospect of Jewel on the big screen rather frightening. But hey. > Her new album is now tentatively scheduled for release by >Atlantic in late September 1998. Wow. I'll believe that when I see it. Will we ever get to see the several albums' worth of material she's written and gotten sick of since _Pieces of You_ came out, I wonder? >Jewel & Lenedra recorded "Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer" (or >just "Rudy" as Jewel calls it) along with The Boys Choir Of Harlem. Weird. (Who's Lenedra?) END IGNORANT JEWEL INQUIRIES Larry pointed out: >Not only that. I've also been meaning to congratulate >*vickie* (EctoMa?? jeez, that means I'm "old" too :), >for being ~the~ fan(atic) for Happy Rhodes. We know it, >too-now where would Happy's career be if it were not >for Vickie recognizing that this incredible talent must >be heard, and, lucky for us, *doing* something about it. >And now, there's an even better chance of that happening. Excellent point, Larry. I'll never forget standing outside of the venue of the 1991 KaTe Bush KonvenTion in London after having just met Vickie in person for the very first time (and Chris too :), listening to her rave about this obscure musician named Happy Rhodes who sounded like Kate and Annie Lennox at the same time and made just the most incredibly beautiful music. Unfortunately Vickie's boombox wasn't working at the time, so she couldn't play anything for me -- I had to wait until woj sent me a tape of _Rhodes Volume I_ and _Warpaint_ a few months later, which I then proceeded to wear out from constant use. Vickie gave Happy her very first radio interview, way back when in Kansas City (ah, I pine for those halcyon days when once a week I would read the Suspended in Gaffa playlists on rec.music.gaffa and desperately wish I lived in the listening area), and distributed the Aural Gratification address far and wide for people to order tapes of their own. She called people up and played Happy's songs over the phone for them, sent sampler tapes, and always had a copy of something of Happy's cued up in her boombox at net.gatherings so she could better spread the gospel. And of course, there was the constant Happyvangelization on the Net. When you think about it, all this -- ecto, the ectophiles, Happy's core support network of fans -- really goes back to Vickie's belief in Happy, and like Larry said, her *doing* something about it. I think that's been kind of forgotten, or at least pushed into the background lately. So yeah, thanks, Vickie. We know you're still out there somewhere. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:41:01 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: News from Ingrid Karklins & Backbone >From: Ingrid Karklins >Subject: News from Ingrid Karklins & Backbone >To: ingrid@libr.stedwards.edu >Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 13:23:37 CST > >Hello friends. > >Red Hand is done. Recorded and mixed at the Fire Station Studio in San >Marcos and Arlyn Studio in Austin. A very human album. An album of human >ecstasy, sin, pain, compassion and innocence. Stuart Sullivan serving as >engineer, wizard and sage as always. Backbone is Steve Bernal (the best & >most beautiful bass playing he has ever done) and Thor (returning to the >fold on drums & percussion) with crucial touches by Craig No. 7. It is an >evolution and an attempt to simplify. > >The packaging is designed & hand-made by me from recycled and non-wood >papers (including a beautiful red Thai Unryu made from kozo fibers) with >grosgrain and French weave ribbons, sliding into a silky-black outer >sleeve. Each has my actual hand print on the cover in red ink. Each >booklet is hand-sewn. A tremendous amount of work, but at last this is >from my hand to yours. > >For now, Red Hand will only be available by mail order through Willow >Music, 500 Terrace Dr., Austin, TX 78704-4343 or >http://www.hear.com/passion/order.html. However, if you have a local >store or distributor that would like to carry it, please have them contact >Willow Music. > >Tremendous thanks to our "Hands", whose generous support has made Red Hand >a reality. We've decided to leave the "Hands" options open, since the >debt we've incurred is significant. The credits in the album liner notes >will be updated when possible (acknowledging the additional contributors) >or by inserting an addendum. These are the options: > > Open Hands ($50.00) receive a signed copy of Red Hand plus an > acknowledgment (by name) of your contribution in the album liner notes. > > Grand Hands ($100.00) receive the same as above plus a copy of > "The Riga Session" and the "Race the Sky" video. > > Fistfuls ($500.00) receive the same as above, plus a day in & > exploring central Texas with me. You will need to provide for > your own transportation to & from Austin as well as any > overnight accommodations. > >We hope to have our album release celebration in January in Austin. I'll >let you know the date & place we settle on. > >Rain. Wet washing away the dust. Moist...dark. Fall. Fall is not >always fall here. But this year: the late/low afternoon butterscotch sun >pours over the turning trees. The tall grasses burnished and gently >swaying. Gold, copper, bronze, red glowingly vibrant. I want to melt in >it. > >This life, this life. The things we must struggle & strive for always >seem to bring the greatest reward. Yes. > >Thank you for being here with us and most of all for listening with open >minds & ears. > >Ingrid > >http://www.hear.com/passion/ > >P.S. It may take a few days yet for the Willow Music & Passion pages to >be updated to reflect Red Hand's availability > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #94 *************************