From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #76 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, November 18 1997 Volume 03 : Number 076 Today's Subjects: ----------------- firecracker cover [sspan ] Re: help? [nightwol@dircon.co.uk (Steve Fagg)] Entering the Ecto MUSH [nightwol@dircon.co.uk (Steve Fagg)] This and That ... [yngveh@mo.himolde.no] EctoGuide Requests: Sandy Denny [Neile Graham ] Happy & visiting Ectophiles [Neile Graham ] Re: help? [Neile Graham ] Ectophiles' Guide update [Neile Graham ] Project Lo? [Dan Stark ] Ditto ["Tom Ditto" ] Happy's Baltimore debut [Neal Copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:25:47 -0800 From: sspan Subject: firecracker cover Mark Anthony Miazga wrote: >Picked up Lisa Loeb's "Firecracker" the other day, and it's pretty darn >good, and has one of the best album covers in recent memory >(a beautiful retro paining of Loeb).Yes, great cover art.. there's a story on how it came about on her web page www.geffen.com/lisa-loeb/ click on 'Bio'. Very interesting, she wrote the bio herself. Yeah, Falling in Love is a great song, (with Shawn Colvin on harmony vocals btw) but the one I get running through my head all the time is Dance with the Angels. - -- ++ -dave- ++ + irc.Dal.net #Panic_Beach + + Maria McKee/Grey Eye Glances/Lisa Loeb + ++ ++ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:17:03 +0000 (GMT) From: nightwol@dircon.co.uk (Steve Fagg) Subject: Re: help? Dan Stark wrote: > Brad Hutchinson wrote: > > I need to change money from American dollars to 12 GBP. What is > >this and how does one change to it? > > It's probably the domestic currency of whatever country you're sending it > to. (GBP = Great Britain Pounds??) How about buying an international > money order from the post office? Yes, GBP is an abbreviation for pounds sterling. So GBP12 is about USD20 but beware that, for such small amounts, conversion charges can be disproportionate. Where this is possible, payment by credit card is usually cheaper. This is one reason why my wife and I have found it worthwhile to retain her US bank account. HTH TTFN Steve - -- Steve Fagg (nightwol@dircon.co.uk) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1313/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:52:47 +0000 (GMT) From: nightwol@dircon.co.uk (Steve Fagg) Subject: Entering the Ecto MUSH To all frustrated Ecto-MUSHers... As Mitch has pointed out, it is not currently possible to teleport into the main Ecto Room (#29946) or the Ecto Newbie Trail (#68340) on the MUSH. In fact it seems that many (perhaps most) rooms in the Ecto area may not be teleported into - I suspect this has been done as a defensive measure against attack from unfriendly players. However, to the best of my knowledge (i.e. I tried creating a brand new character and it worked for him), it is possible to teleport to my room (#55456) from whence one may proceed, via West Ecto Avenue and Ecto Square to the Ecto Room. Please feel free to use this route into the Ecto area of the MUSH from outside until Jason fixes the locking on the main room and newbie trail. Syntax is: @tel #55456 And I can recommend the espresso in the adjoining Java Joint! ;-) TTFN Steve - -- Steve Fagg (nightwol@dircon.co.uk) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1313/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:41:48 +0100 (MET) From: yngveh@mo.himolde.no Subject: This and That ... Hi, Hmmm, this mail is kinda off-topic though it is about music indeed. Just warning you all :) For those who want to do something about the classical part of their CD-collection should read this. According the the great news Ecto has been very quiet indeed. But enough about that. What I wanted to point out is my signature of today by Ginette Neveu, who has been mentioned on these list before by humble me. I found this quote in one of the 2 CDs I got by her. Considering it was written just shortly before she died in a plane crash on Oct 29 1949 on her way to USA to perform, it is as if she did predict her own death without knowing it (hopefully). But as it is clear that she didn't fear death then it wouldn't have been such a terrible thought for her even though she had just turned 30 at the time. For those who don't remember what I told about her - here are some facts : She was born in France on Aug 11 1919. Already at an early age she did impress people by being able to sing tunes accurately only after one single hearing, and her capacity to work was incredible. At the age of time she could practice the simplest passages 50 times, which she explained by "it must be beautiful". She did debut at the age of seven and a half in Paris with Bruch violin concerto and shortly after she was winning one competition after the other. At 9 she was (as Menuhin) studying under Georges Enescu, and already then she showed that she wanted to do things her way. An example of that is when she was playing Bach's Chaconne and Enescu stopped her by saying "I play that passage rather differently" and Ginette answered "Yes, and I play this music as I understand it". Any other pupil would have been shown the door :) After a drawback at the age of 14 when she only became 4th in a competition, she did beat David Oistrakh in the Warsaw Competition (thinking about him being 10 years older than her). Most of her recordings were done "late" in her career. During the war she did hardly perform at all - just read, wrote and composed some. EMI had in this period suffered huge losses in their classical catalogue and Ginette Neveu was chosen to be one of the performers to help them build it up again. From 1946 to 1948 she did make some amazing recordings among them : Ravel - Tzigane .... It is just like she was born into this piece of music, which IMHO is close to impossible for a normal being to play. Chausson - Poeme .... This is among my alltime favorite classical pieces. Sibelius Violin Concerto (Ver.II) - This recording is a must. After the famous Camilla Wicks recording this is by far the first pick (as the first one is close to impossible to get hold on) Brahms Violin Concerto It is said to be her best performance of them all. It is at least utterly incredible. So much strength and feelings put into a piece of music you hardly will find anywhere else. Ok, She never did get to do many recordings - sadly enough. *hugs* - -- Yngve Nothing great is achieved without the solitude of vocation, and true greatness is, perhaps, a kind of radiant solitude ... People are sometimes fainthearted because they fear death. But death is something sublime, which one must deserve according to the life and ideals within one's self. - Ginette Neveu (1949) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:10:35 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: EctoGuide Requests: Sandy Denny Alan-- May I swipe your album comments here for the Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music? Please let me know if I can. Thanks! - --Neile At 11:26 AM -0400 10/17/97, ABershaw@aol.com wrote: >Hello again so soon ;-) > I couldn't agree more with all Neile said regarding Sandy Denny & would >like to also very highly recommend two other essential Fairport Convention >albums (other than "Leige & Leaf") which also feature incredible performances >by Sandy as well as Richard Thompson. The titles are "What We Did On Our >Holiday" (also simply titled "Fairport Convention" in the USA) & >"Unhalfbricking". Both of these have mezmerising Sandy performances. > Unlike the majority of anyone's late 60's & early 70's recordings, these >albums (& "Leige & Leaf") do not sound dated at all. > > Also, Javaho wrote: >< >remotely true) she died of a broken neck after falling down a staircase at > >Boleskine House--Jimmy Page's home on Loch Ness. This was in the late 70's. > > Probably more fiction than fact, but I've come across the story more than > >once. >> > >This is a commonly perpetuated myth that is totally untrue. > Actually, she fell down a flight of stairs at a friend's house(not Jimmy >Page), struck her head, and immediately went into a coma. She was rushed to >the hospital, but died several nights later of a cerebral hemorrhage without >regaining consciousness on April 21st, 1978. > This tragedy happenned just as she and husband Trevor Lucas were planning >to >move to America to launch a new life and career. Her death came nine months >after the much-desired birth of the couple's first child, Georgia. Sandy was >31 years old. > > If anyone is interested in learning more about Sandy via a website, >the best one, by far, is at: >http://utopia.knoware.nl/users/doornkam/index.html > > Best wishes, Alan > >np: Static & Silence-The Sundays >nr: Memoirs Of A Female Messiah-Cindy Lee Berryhill > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:45:34 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Happy & visiting Ectophiles Thrilled about Happy's news. Can't believe that we can actually maybe think that Happy might possibly sometime play Seattle. Too shocking to think about. But Veda is playing Seattle for the first tiem (opening for Dan Berg) on Thursday, so things do change. I'm glad Happy was able to make such a wonderful deal, and am DYING to hear the new album. It has been a looooooooong time, though I must say _The Keep_ has tided me over pretty well. And I never tire of the rest of Happy's back catalog, either. Amazing considering how much play the albums have gotten over the last 5.5 years since we discovered her much. Had a wonderful weekend with visiting ectophiles (who mostly lurk now) Art Liestman and Jens Brage. Bought way more cds than I would otherwise have dared, and of course encourage Jens to take way too many discs back home with him to Denmark. And he brought me a cd copy of Virginia Astley's _From Gardens Where I Feel Secure_ that he bought in Japan a while back, so her music _is_ available there! Does anyone know of a good mailorder source for Japanese titles? - --Neile n.p. (on the internal radio) Sarah Slean's _Universe_ n.r. Vonda McIntyre's _The Sun and the Moon_ (or is it the other way 'round? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:45:24 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: help? At 2:17 PM +0000 11/17/97, Steve Fagg wrote: >Dan Stark wrote: >> Brad Hutchinson wrote: >> > I need to change money from American dollars to 12 GBP. What is >> >this and how does one change to it? >> >> It's probably the domestic currency of whatever country you're sending it >> to. (GBP = Great Britain Pounds??) How about buying an international >> money order from the post office? > >Yes, GBP is an abbreviation for pounds sterling. So GBP12 is about >USD20 but beware that, for such small amounts, conversion charges can >be disproportionate. Where this is possible, payment by credit card >is usually cheaper. This is one reason why my wife and I have found >it worthwhile to retain her US bank account. Yes, definitely. My bank charges something like $7 to type up an international money order. I use credit cards where possible, buy traveller's cheques where not possible, or beg for exchanges from friendly overseas ectophiles. ;) - --Neile n.p. (on the internal radio) Sarah Slean's _Universe_ n.r. Vonda McIntyre's _The Sun and the Moon_ (or is it the other way 'round? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:29:06 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Ectophiles' Guide update At 9:10 AM -0700 11/17/97, Neile Graham wrote: >Alan-- > >May I swipe your album comments here for the Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music? > >Please let me know if I can. Thanks! > >--Neile Oops, sorry everyone. I try to delete all the ccs on these but sometimes don't see them all. I'm way behind on requests, so expect a steady stream of them to those of you who have posted comments but aren't on my swipe-at-will list, I hope they won't be winding up on ecto, though. The Guide has been on a bit of hiatus the last few weeks since I'm still catching up from being away for much of October and coming home with a lingering virus, but I have files I'll be uploading in the next few days. I'll try to keep everyone posted (but not cced). - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:47:09 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Project Lo? Hi, I'm curious about the latest Project Lo release, but I'd like to hear some samples before buying it. Is there anyone here that has the CD and might like to encode a minute or so of a couple tracks for me, in MP3, RealAudio or ADPCM format? 22 kHz mono would be fine, and I'm especially interested in the tracks that feature Happy of course. I'd either take them as e-mail attachments, or go to a website to hear them. :) Thanks! Dan - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- All spam email sent to this address will automatically be forwarded to I.R.S. and USPIS fraud investigation, FTC fraud and pyramid investigators, Securities & Exchange Commission, and many more. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:50:49 -0500 From: "Tom Ditto" Subject: Ditto Java wrote: >...and a resounding "DITTO! from Kansas City. Well, here's a ditto from Ditto. I'm *not* decloaking. Fact is, I lost touch with Ecto after a trip to England in March. I unsubscribed to make room on my hard drive for real life. This evening, for some reason, I thought it wise to take a peek at what had been going on in the past seven months. It was a little hard to find SMOE, but perserverence furthers, and there it was, not two days old, the Big News so long in the making... Well, it took Happy to prove that Time/Warner doesn't rule the world. I suppose all that money from Gateway invested in Samson suggests that in a way Microsoft does. However, there is a rumor going around that Gateway is going to revive the Amiga. Let's hope so. Happy and Kevin have just a few thousand sequences laid down with Amiga software. To the few who remember me, an update of sorts. After fiddling with computers, holograms and magnetic wave detectors, I have built the 3-D digitizer promised to the National Science Foundation two years ago. Now as I file my final report, I move on to my version of finding a suitable dotted line to sign. You can read about this project at www.dewittbros.com Our little Ditto, born hours after Happy's Troy Music Hall concert, is now parading on two feet. He continues to grin, but now he's got his pearlies. He is a very handsome kid. We don't deserve such joy. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:35:43 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Happy's Baltimore debut On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, meredith wrote: > First off, CONGRATULATIONS HAPPY!!! I can't believe there hasn't been more > buzz about the Big Announcement in these pages... is everybody iced/snowed > in or on vacation or something??? Hey, some of us were congratulating Happy in person . > I'm in the process of watching my favorite band The Nields get royally > screwed over by their faux-indie major label, and it's a truly painful > experience. So what's been happening with the Nields? I haven't heard anything. I missed their DC show last weekend, but they will be coming to Baltimore in December. On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, We're all in it together. wrote: > After Tony, Project Lo and Caryn Lin came on stage. They played a > few of Caryn's songs, then Happy came out to sing some of the Project Lo > stuff. They played "Perfection", "Mercy Street", and "D.I.E". The whole Project Lo evening was a rather bizarre and disjointed one, starting with the venue - a recording studio on the fringes of Baltimore that advertises solely by the internet and word of mouth, resulting in an attentive but sparse crowd. Project Lo seemed to be very much a series of disparate projects, with only partially successful mixing. Project Lo 1 was actually the Caryn Lin band, with Bon Lozago adding various touchs on guitar. I managed to miss all of Caryn's gigs opening for Happy, and I was really impressed. Her band was really tight. They seemed to know exactly what each member was doing, and yet had freedom to experiment. Their bass player was particularly impresseive, though often lost in the mix. You could tell that they were a band, and that Bon was an extra. He seemed to be having a good time, but he didn't feel a part of their group. There were a number of stand outs, but the biggest was Caryn's solo, layered violin song for her nephew. She layed down rhythm and percussion lines on her violin, capturing and looping them while she played a beautiful lyrical melody over the top. (I bought the album that's on, but haven't heard it yet.) Project Lo 2 was more meandering stuff, that I assume was Bon's. Project Lo 3 (and maybe 4) was Happy joining. She seemed fairly uncomfortable too, sounding intriguing through the bad mix of Perfection and somewhat out of place on D.I.E. Mercy Street had the vocals better. I haven't listened to the album much, but live I found about half of the song really moving, and half of it merely nice. I may be slightly biased since I find the original really powerful. The cameradery that Happy shows with her usual musicians wasn't really present with this crew. At times, she seemed like a Project Lo back-up singer, and at others, Project Lo seemed like her back-up band, ably providing texture to Happy's songs, but without any real interplay between her and the musicians. Happy seemed much more comfortable doing her own songs, and they were a treat to hear. Especially the first encore, with a funky Station to Station mutating into an incredibly strong Warpaint. That and Caryn Lin's solo song were the definite highlights for me. Project Lo was brought back for a second encore, but they couldn't top Warpaint. Despite that sounding somewhat critical, I really enjoyed the show. It was interesting throughout, and occasionally was stellar. Happy got a really warm reception from the crowd. I don't know how many of them had heard her before. She should definitely have had discs for sale though. All the other performers had discs available, and I'm sure Happy would have sold a handful too. On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Not to mention the prospect of not having to drive 5 hours to see her in > concert > Ooh! Finally managed to dig up a copy of this over the weekend, and > it's just amazing. I *really* need to see Susan live sometime... Gee, Jeff, you have plenty of chances. It seems like she's playing within 5 hours of you all the time :) Neal np: A Lida Husik, Kirsty MacColl, June Tabor, Veda Hille sampler tape nr: In The Time Of The Butterflies - Julia Alvarez ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #76 *************************