From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #49 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, October 22 1997 Volume 03 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Transcendant Musical Moments ["Robert Lovejoy" ] Re: Transcendant Musical Moments [chris@neuron.uchc.edu (Chris Sampson)] sessions schedule thru January [Jeff Wasilko ] this week's new releases [meredith ] various [meredith ] Re: this week's new releases [Joseph Zitt ] Re: this week's new releases ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Re: MillaJaneSiberryDarWilliamsTheNields [Richard Holmes Subject: Transcendant Musical Moments The other day I was listening to an old Genesis album, "Selling England By The Pound". At the end of the album is a short song calld Aisle of Plenty in which Peter Gabriel is basically singing british supermarket prices. At one point he gets to the phrase "seventeen and a half..." and holds on to the word half for a few measures, during which the band behind him punctuate the music just a bit more. The result for me is goosebumps! So I put the question to ecto: What are some of your favorite musical 'moments"; points in a song where something greater than the rest of the song stands out? Another example of such a moment for me occurs in the song "Feed The Fire", as the first chorus comes in "I want to go back to the trees...". The subtle shift there is exquisite! Does anyone else sense these kind of moments in songs? I think they are uncommon, that most music bubbles along very nicely, but now and then something gets recorded that transcends the song itself. Maybe it's just a way a phrase is handled, or a clever arrangement, but now and then I hear things in songs that are so amazing! Thanks for your time, and looking forward to finding more moments... Bob L. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Temperance Subject: Re: Transcendant Musical Moments I would have to say that one of my fave - fave - favorites is: "Running Up That Hill" by Kate Bush, when she says during the climax of the song, "Lets exchange the experience... oooooowhhh". Right after that last ooowh, there's this musical convergence and it's almost like time stands still in that moment. I can remember in the mid 1980's hearing this song while in high school, and being so mesmerized by this song. So there's my moment :) Julie Christina aka Bubbah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:26:00 -0400 From: chris@neuron.uchc.edu (Chris Sampson) Subject: Re: Transcendant Musical Moments Not my only (or even greatest) such moment... but... "Bubbah" describes that moment in "Running Up That Hill": Yeah... that's definitely one of them... I know exactly the convergence and the climax you describe... of course, I don't know what it's like to experience this musical moment while in high school (I graduated in '82). I'd been thinking about these moments and couldn't remember any of them... Thanks for jarring my memory loose. Chris Sampson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:59:10 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: sessions schedule thru January I got this from another list I'm on. Note that Jane Siberry is on December 27th! The scheduled air time for "Sessions at West 54th" is 11:00 pm - 12:00am Eastern, but times may vary - be sure to consult your local TV listings for the correct date, time and public television channel in your locale - listings are subject to change. #118 - Rickie Lee Jones and Tindersticks (11/01) #119 - Beck and Ben Folds Five (11/08) #120 - David Byrne (11/15) #121 - Fiona Apple and Luscious Jackson (11/22) #122 - Sheryl Crow and Gillian Welch (11/29) #123 - Best Of Sessions (12/06, 12/13) #124 - Leo Kotke and Laura Love (12/20) #125 - Jane Siberry and Belle & Sebastian (12/27) #126 - Ani DiFranco and Tricky (01/03) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:39:12 -0400 From: meredith Subject: this week's new releases Hi! Here's the latest in the stores. Yet more amusing ones, which I've left in. :) Enjoy, and happy EWS! > *Rock and Pop new releases* > --------------------------- > - GREG BROWN - Slant Six Mind (Red House) > - JAZ COLEMAN/YOUTH/LONDON PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA - Kashmir: > Symphonic Led Zeppelin (Point) > - THE DEVLINS - Waiting (Radio Universe/Universal) > - FRED EAGLESMITH - Lipstick Lies and Gasoline (Razor & Tie) > - MOBY - I Like to Score (Elektra) > - PAXTON - Paxton (Nemperor/Razor & Tie) > - THE ROYAL PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA - Plays the Music of Oasis (Music > Club) > > *Rock and Pop reissues* > ----------------------- > - BARNES & BARNES - Spazchow (w/10 previously unreleased tracks) > (Oglio) > - ELVIS COSTELLO - Extreme Honey - The Very Best of the Warner Bros. > Years (18-track compilation w/one new track) (Warner Bros.) > - SINEAD O'CONNOR - Best of (Chrysalis/EPROP) > - THE PSYCHEDELIC FURS - Should God Forget: A Retrospective (two CDs) > (Legacy) > - THE WEDDING PRESENT - George Best (w/six bonus tracks) (Cooking > Vinyl) > - WIRE - Coatings (The B List 1985-1990) (WMO/World Domination) > > *Country new releases* > ---------------------- > - CHESAPEAKE - Pier Pressure (Sugar Hill) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | Boonton, NJ USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:25:02 -0400 From: meredith Subject: various Hi! Before I begin, just another plug for Susan McKeown and Lindsey Horner's new CD _Through The Bitter Frost and Snow_. I've been listening to it more closely, and it just keeps getting better and better. Even if you don't normally go for "Christmas" music (which this mostly isn't), it's a wonderful mix of traditional, jazz, and folk that transcends the seasons. Mike posted re that Susan McKeown person: > At least, unlike Meth, I know how to spell fflyven. ;p Okay fine, so I hadn't really read the liner notes yet. Thpth. Actually, now that I've read the liner notes I know that that's our own fellow ectophile Hillary (formerly of Prime-CD) in the chorus on "There Is No Rose"! I knew that didn't sound like Susan... :) I can't quite figure out what "mistress of the bellows" means in the notes for "Auld Lang Syne", though. I'm not sure I want to know. ;> > Of course, the rest of the set was great as well. Seeing that "Bold >Orion" crossed off the set list after the show was a bit disappointing, >as like both Meredith I think it was one of the best tracks off the >original version of _Through the Bitter Frost and Snow_, but Susan said >she might try to work it into the set for the next Chanting House show at >Fez (10/22) so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Me too. We did, after all, make a special request. ;> I must say I find the guitar solo in the version on the CD to be rather jarring, but it's short and goes away quickly and other than that it's a brilliant track. >Having said that, I don't >know which of the other songs I'd have wanted to see dropped to make room >for it. How about none, and a longer set? :) >As always, I'm trusting a >copy of the set list rather than my memory. Pretty soon Susan is just going to start writing an extra one up for you. ;> > To be honest, I thought it was one of the best performances I have seen >Michelle give. Her playing is always great, but Saturday night it was >brilliant! No kidding. She really seemed to be enjoying herself, too. Anyway, on to other things... Matt reported: >The ecto-friendly radio station (KIWR) just received Happy's entire >catalog, and all discs are in rotation. Yes!!! This afternoon I was >able to hear a song from Warpaint. Yay!!! That's so cool. >The Nields are due in town Wednesday. I managed to win tickets from >KIWR, and plan on going solo. Great! (Which I just misspelled as "Greta", whoo-ooo.) Let me know if Nerissa actually plays the black electric guitar. >KIWR is also playing Holly Cole! The station just keeps getting better >and better. I heard something from Holly Cole's new album on WFUV yesterday. It was pretty good, but didn't inspire me to run out last night and buy the disc or anything. Does anyone have this yet? >I received a new disc in the mail, Mary Lydia Ryan's latest (first?). We got this too, but I haven't really listened to it yet. Ariana inquired: >As anyone heard anything from Alana Davis yet? (I think that is her >name.) I read about her last week in my newest Spin magazine and I got >a post card yesterday for her after seeing Sarah McLachlan. I think the >album is called "Blame it on me" and the single will be "32 Flavors". There has been some talk about it on the Ani list... if I'm remembering correctly it's rather hip-hoppy, and definitely radio friendly. The overall reception to it was mixed. I haven't heard it myself, so I can't say. >But I am also worried that this song might go >top 40. I can just picture people who have no clue of who Ani is >singing this song. (Picture people in the streets or at work just >singing the song.) To me that is a scary sight, but maybe I am wrong. Yeah, that would be pretty scary. But then again I know quite a few die-hard Kate Bush fans who came to her music via Pat Benatar's cover of "Wuthering Heights", so who knows? Jerene wondered: >Everytime I have tried to order from A & B's website, I am told my >password is not long enough, no matter how long it is. I gave up and >phoned my order (which, BTW, has not arrived yet--but it's only been 3 >weeks). Has anyone successfully ordered from their website? We did... but we're using Netscape 4.0. Odd. Kenn posted re Project Lo in NYC: >Perhaps I'll see some of you there. Meredith? Woj? You planning on >being at the late show? Anyone else? I'm flying solo that night, so if >anyone is looking for company, let me know. Actually, we might be at the early show, since I can just hop on the train and woj just has to come in from work. (This change of geography thing is going to take some time to get used to.) We'll let y'all know. Who else is going? Re Moxy: >And, then... the guys are scheduled to return to NYC to perform on New >Year's Eve at The Bottom Line!! I can't really imagine a show that would >be more fun to see on New Year's Eve (ok... Paula at Roseland last year >was pretty awesome, but I doubt she'll be doing *that* again...). If >nothing better comes along before then, I'll very likely be at that show, >too. Wow. I might be in Tucson for New Year's this year, but if I'm not, I'm there, dude! Paul reported: >Great show, with a small guest appearance by Paul Hernandez--I think his >first name was Paul, but come to think of it, I can't remember now--playing >the fish on "Hip to Hip." (Not being well-versed in the ways of percussion >instruments, I didn't know that there was such an instrument until last >night.) Ah, then you've never seen The Nields, have you? Katryna has been playing the fish for as long as "Fountain of Youth" as been a song. (I think I saw one of the very first shows to feature her playing the fish, actually -- it's looking rather well-worn now. :) >and a guy behind the drumset and a girl who plays odd percussion >like a bongo and some oversize thing you shake (given what I learned about >fishes, this one's probably called a "whale"). LOL!!! Finally, Uncle Bob posited: >So I put the question to ecto: What are some of your favorite musical >'moments"; points in a song where something greater than the rest of the >song stands out? Hoo boy. Well, the standout one is in Kate's "Night of the Swallow", when she sings the word "borderline" and holds it for a wonderfully long time. I'll never forget the night I was lying on my bed listening to that song on headphones with all the lights off, when she held that note I literally felt like I was levitating. (The next year in my Intro to Religion class I had an assignment to write about a "conversion experience" similar to those described in William James, and I wrote about that.) To this day the line gives me the chills every time I hear it. Others I can think of right off the top of my head: Dar Williams, "Are You Out There", when she shrieks "all the ti-III-me" in the chorus immediately following the bridge Veda Hille, "Precious Heart", every time she sings "the light and heat" Sarah McLachlan, the ending of "Home"; the perfect snare double-beats after the first verse of "Elsewhere" Tori Amos, the climax of the studio version of "Precious Things" ("with their little fascist panties stuffed inside the heart of every nice GIRL"); the piano part running underneath "Muhammad My Friend"; the triple bridges in "Little Earthquakes" Susan McKeown, "Salome" ("she wants your head on a plate. And she'll do more than dance to get it") There are just so many... but those are the ones that pop to mind right now. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | Boonton, NJ USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:20:09 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: this week's new releases meredith wrote: > > - THE ROYAL PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA - Plays the Music of Oasis (Music > > Club) And stay tuned for: ANONYMOUS 4 - Sings Janis Joplin LONDON SYMFONIETTE - Plays the Best of John Lydon SARAH BRIGHTMAN - Uebersomething: A Tribute to Laibach BARRY WHITE - Los Grandes Exitos de Menudo THE THREE TENORS - In Honor of James Brown WYNTON MARSALIS - Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll TOM WAITS - Hocus Pocus by Focus KRONOS QUARTET - Purple Haze (Oh wait, that's out already...) - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt whodp://ding.activerse.com/jzitt \| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:39:00 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: this week's new releases meredith wrote: > Here's the latest in the stores. Yet more amusing ones, which I've left > in. :) Enjoy, and happy EWS! > > *Rock and Pop reissues* > > - SINEAD O'CONNOR - Best of (Chrysalis/EPROP) Hmm. I wonder if this means it's time to dash out and snatch up a CD of _The Lion and the Cobra_, which I've been putting off for, what, 8.5 years now? (I've got a tape of it!) Seems like these best-of types tend to mean that the earlier albums are being deleted. Me, I won't be buying anything off this list...I bought two other CDs today, which ought to last for at least a little while...the new Morrissey album (couldn't resist) and, finally, the new Loreena. No comments on either yet, except to say that the first four tracks of the Loreena sounds exactly as I expected...pleasant, but, well, just...pleasant. whatever, jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Re: MillaJaneSiberryDarWilliamsTheNields Alvin Brattli writes: > The past few days, I have practically only listened to these four CDs. > So far, _The divine comedy_ is the album that hits me hardest, but the > other three are also excellent. It's a shame that Milla has not > released more CDs, but I understand that a new one is coming Real Soon > Now[tm]? Anybody know when? I have the dar and the jane, but never heard the nields or milla. You think it's pretty good, huh? Tell me more... > As for Jane Siberry, WIWAB is different than what I had expected, but > in a positive way. So far, my favourite song on WIWAB is "All the > candles in the world". Dunno why, it just is. I think I will give > WIWAB a little time to grow on me (which I am convinced it will) > before I buy my next Jane Siberry album... Yes I think "candles..." is my fave on this one, but they *all* are good. WIWAB is my favorite Jane album, but then I don't have them all (I own "The Walking", and have heard pieces of others in listening stations). - -Richard npimh: Ingrid Karklins, "A Darker Passion" nr: homework assignments @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ " 'The Book of History has many missing pages' @ | Murmurs the Madonna of the Middle Ages @ , , | , , But in between her cracks you can read between the lines @ ' ' ' ' ' She'd love nothing better than to rob the Louvre blind @ Baroque and complicated, her lovers never stay @ It looks like Mona Lisa is having a bad day... " @ - Michelle Shocked, "Looks Like Mona Lisa.." (on Captain Swing) @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 01:49:02 -0400 From: slambert@interport.net (samantha) Subject: june tabor is no one else going to post about how unbelievably amazing june tabor was at the bottom line? were there no other ectos there? because personally, i was totally blown away. - - sam "we are quick-change artists we girls" www.interport.net/~slambert ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #49 *************************