From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #38 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, October 12 1997 Volume 03 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Women on Air web radio [Richard ] susan mckeown [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: waterson:carthy [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: waterson:carthy [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: Women on Air web radio [Neal Copperman ] Re: Women In Music Web Radio [Heather Russell ] traditional music/WXPN [Silme@ix.netcom.com] sTuff [meredith ] reminder Sessions [kerry white ] Re: sTuff [Michael Bowman ] Re: sTuff ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Re: sTuff [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: traditional music/WXPN [Neal Copperman ] Re: sTuff [meredith ] DVD [kerry white ] Book of Secrets (was:Re: sTuff) ["Joanna M. Phillips" ] Re: reminder Sessions [Joseph Zitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 09:13:10 -0700 From: Richard Subject: Re: Women on Air web radio > Sunday, October 12th - Oktoberfest @ Harvard Square > Cambridge, MA > part of HMV Records > 2:00 full band performance > 4:00 Tara Mclean hits the stage Lordy- We're already gonna be in Boston/Cambridge tomorrow for Sarah at City Hall Plaza, and now this... Can we handle all this free music?? We'll try... ;-) r ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 09:44:36 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: susan mckeown also sprach Paul Blair: >I still think of myself as a relative newcomer to Susan's music, but I'm >amazed at how many of her songs that I've never heard except at shows I >know-- well, since it's been so long since _bones_ came out, it should be no surprise that she's playing a lot of non-released songs. some of them, though, have been unreleased for a *long* time. i think she played "wheels" and "words" (my two favorites) the first time we saw her play. there are a couple others as well ("chances are"). >Are any of them recorded anywhere else? i think "ballinaboula" was released on some compilation which i've forgotten the name of but, if i'm not mistaken, featured an early version of richard shindell's "reunion hill". woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:31:26 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: waterson:carthy also sprach Silme@ix.netcom.com: >> (in fact, i thought she sounded a lot like kirsty mccoll -- >> are they from the same part of england?). > >Is Kirsty from England? I was thinking Ireland. nope, england. i just poked around the web and she seems to have been born in croydon, on the south side of london. dunno if she grew up there or not though. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:07:38 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: waterson:carthy also sprach Michael Curry: >> n.p. sarah slean -- universe > > Ya know, I really wish there was a cd of this. *sigh* Remind me to >listen to it sometime woj. i was just played this for meredith without saying who it was. when she asked, i told her it was tori amos demos. she *almost* believed me. the tape is really quite good though. pester steve ito for copies -- he'll be happy to pick them up for you. ;) +w n.p. robyn hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:14:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Women on Air web radio Richard, Enjoy all those great shows. I'm jealous! (Rosh Hashona with a bang!) Be sure to say hi to Lisa. She's really sweet and friendly (and small). Neal On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Richard wrote: > > Sunday, October 12th - Oktoberfest @ Harvard Square > > Cambridge, MA > > part of HMV Records > > 2:00 full band performance > > 4:00 Tara Mclean hits the stage > > Lordy- We're already gonna be in Boston/Cambridge tomorrow for Sarah at > City Hall Plaza, but that ends tonight- yay> and now this... Can we handle all this free > music?? We'll try... ;-) > > > r > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:41:35 -0400 From: Heather Russell Subject: Re: Women In Music Web Radio >Also, Lisa sent this out in her last note. I haven't heard a thing >about >it, and don't generally do music on the web, but I'd be curious to hear >feedback if anyone checks it out. >> NEWS! Check out the Women on Air web site. You can hear entire radio >> shows showcasing women artists. My music was selected for three of the >> shows. You can listen as you surf: http://www.womenonair.com or >> http://www.audionet.com/shows/womeninmusic/ >Neal >np: Storm of Drones I'm listening to their show right now - it's really great. We don't get this show on WUNC (Eastern NC's Public Radio station), but it will be nice to tune in once a week and listen on the net. What a wonderful resource for women in music! playlist selections for past shows included Ani DiFranco, Lisa Cerbone, Jann Arden, Joan Armatrading, Luscious Jackson, Everything But the Girl, Loreena McKennitt... Heather n.p. Show No. 47, Women in Music - -- |***********************************| | Heather Russell | | http://www.freecloud.com/heather | | hrussell@bellsouth.net | |___________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 14:16:36 +0000 From: Silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: traditional music/WXPN I fit in all of the traditional music camps -- go figure. Of course, I prefer some artists over others, but I enjoy artists from all of the "camps" -- from the Copper Family to Steeleye Span, which of course, was Martin Carthy's idea for a name. (He wasn't in the band yet, but he gave the name to Tim Hart. The legend is that Tim voted twice for that name... Somewhere, I have an old tape of an interview in which Carthy discusses this. If you're within hearing of Philly's superb WXPN (home of World Cafe), listen to the Unicorn show for a great mix of traditional music. I grew up listening to it back in the 1970's (guess I'm dating myself, eh?). I'm no longer within hearing of the station, but I'm a long-distance member, and I believe the show is still aired on Sunday evenings. Ellen -- yes, I remember when David Dye was on WYSP, and WXPN aired a classical program. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:43:47 -0400 From: meredith Subject: sTuff Hi! This may be a long one... sorry! Thanks for the pointer to the Women In Music site, Neal! Lots of good stuff there to accompany an e-mail session, even if they did spell Susan McKeown's name wrong. :) Also, thanks to Marion for pointing out that Rainbirds have yet another new album out. Prolific, aren't they? I checked out www.rainbirds.com last night, and I have to say they have the most annoying, pretentious web site I've ever seen. All that javascript crap, and then they purposefully don't give you enough time to read the "home page", where the links are to get to the rest of the site. I was gratified to note that someone had already bitched about it on their guestbook (once I finally got to the damn thing). Has anyone heard the album by now? I'm definitely interested in a copy -- Marion, please e-me privately and I'm sure we'll be able to work something out. :) Richard Holmes inquired: >Although another "Richard" wrote the bit you're responding to here, >I myself was wondering what the bit about amazon.com was. I've heard >vague references to their being just another "Barnes & Noble on the net - >so do tell. I've ordered from amazon and would like to know what's up. amazon.com is an entity that only exists on the Internet and in a warehouse facility in Seattle, WA. Their slogan is "Earth's Biggest Bookstore", because they theoretically have access to every book in print (and some that aren't), and therefore have more titles available than any physical bookstore could ever hold. When Barnes & Noble introduced its web site, they knew they would initially have an uphill battle competing with amazon.com, so to coincide with the launch of the site they also slapped amazon.com with a huge lawsuit, alleging that their slogan was false advertising (because everyone knows that *B&N* is earth's biggest bookstore :P). They assumed that bringing in their heaviest legal brass would send amazon.com cowering into a corner and allow them to just take over the online bookselling world, and boy, were they ever wrong. The backlash against B&N has been most impressive. amazon.com used to have a little chart on their front page showing the number of titles available to them as compared to the number of titles available to "America's largest chain bookstore" that linked to a page with details about the suit, but that's gone now, and I'm not sure exactly what's up with the case. I hope it's already been thrown out of court for being just plain silly. As for me, I've boycotted B&N since the day I heard about the suit, and plan to continue to do so no matter what the outcome. amazon.com just LOVES me and my credit card. :} It's a dangerous, dangerous place. Sigh. Richard (from Maine -- yay! :) noted: >I buy 90% of my CDs at Bull Moose Music, a locally owned and operated >chain of four stores in Southern Maine and New Hampshire; Do they have a web presence yet? I've never managed to go to one of their locations when I've been back up that way, but I've been hearing great things about them for years. It sounds like they're doing well, too, which is a good thing. Maine was in *desperate* need of a good record store before they came along. Michael Doyle remarked re Compact Disc World: >I can do this because I'm a member of their "Club CD" -- which entails a >$12/year fee. The fee, however, has been worth the benefits, including >lower prices on everything. I find the whole concept of their "Club CD" thing offensive. Why the hell don't they just charge the lower prices to begin with?!? Not that the "special low prices" you get by being in the club are all that special -- $12.99 is still a ripoff for a disc, and their used prices aren't much better. (Not that this hasn't prevented us from buying in bulk there, but we grumble about it the whole way out the door. :}) Jeffy commented: >hmmm...woj seems to be spreading. I'm *not* going to make a comment about his waist size or anything, but I am going to say "ewwwww" for the image that presents! :) Then, he whined: > and for those of us for whom _Mask and Mirror_ was a big >disappointment after the brilliance of _The Visit_? I'm completely flabbergasted that Mike, woj and I seem to be the only three people on the planet who are loving this album. One of the things that makes Loreena's music most appealing to me is the fact that she's not afraid to go into new directions and explore new musical ground. The amount of research she puts into each album is unprecedented (just look at the liner notes), and the result is a rich tapestry of elements from different musical traditions that you wouldn't necessarily expect to hear woven together. Her Celtic stuff was nice, but after 4 albums of that it was refreshing to hear something new and different. Granted, _The Book of Secrets_ is quite similar musically to _The Mask and Mirror_, but it's *far* from "New Age". You want New Age, check out John Tesh or Yanni. Lorenna McKennitt is NOT it! >(who notes that if Loreena follows the Sarah pattern, she's only two tours >away from playing basketball arenas...and if that isn't a sobering thought, >I don't know what is) Jeffy, Jeffy, Jeffy ... have you been slacking off on your medication again or something? Even if we consider for a minute that Loreena would allow a stop on her tour to be booked in a basketball arena (which is *exceedingly* unlikely), somehow I just don't see Loreena selling a million albums and/or showing up on Letterman anytime soon. The day I station-surf past Z-100 and hear "The Mummers' Dance" I will immediately turn my car around, drive to MD, and treat you to the most expensive dinner to be had in the Washington, D.C. metro area. Deal? Dave slammed: >The Sarah pattern... would this be the 'put out several albums that >pretty much bite* except for one or two songs, then a really good >album, then another that bites*' pattern? Ouch! Just ... ouch. Paul Blair posted: >I still think of myself as a relative newcomer to Susan's music, but I'm >amazed at how many of her songs that I've never heard except at shows I >know--not just that I know the titles (some of the titles I probably don't >have right)--but I can even remember how all of them sound, which is pretty >good for me (even though I have been to five Susan shows this year): The new songs are every one of them amazingly good. My absolute favorite is "Seven Cold Glories", which is one of those grab-you-and-make-you-LISTEN-and-leave-you-breathless-at-the-end songs. "There's a god up there, and god I wish it was mine" -- yow. >That's a whole album's worth! How many of these are going to be on >*Through the Bitter Frost and Snow*--does anyone know? "Winter King" and "Through The Bitter Frost And Snow" will be on that disc, which I think officially comes out on Tuesday. The record release party is next Friday night, btw! Here's the scoop: > 17 October - Dublin Booksellers / 116 Suffolk Street, NYC > 1 block above Delancey (Suffolk goes North) > 'Through the Bitter Frost & Snow' Release 9pm > Reservations:(212) 982-3078 $10 woj and I will be there, as will Mike Curry and probably JeffW, and of course Sam and Hillary (you know, the usual suspects. :). Anybody else? >Are any of them recorded anywhere else? "Daddy's Little Girl" can be found on the "Snakes" single, but unfortunately the only place the general public will be able to get hold of that is by scouring the used bins for copies sloughed off there by idiotic program managers from annoying radio stations who wouldn't know a good thing if it jumped up and bit them in the butt. Or you can enter the contest on the Chanting House web page. :) "Balanaboula" is on the Fast Folk Cafe's Anniversary compilation, which came out on PRIME-CD late last year (along with Richard Shindell's "Reunion Hill", as woj mentioned). I've never seen a copy of this anywhere, though. That's it, as far as I know. With all of the projects Susan's involved with, I don't see a new Chanting House album on the schedule, but the good news is that we'll be getting a lot of other new music from Susan in the near future, and hopefully more of the country will get a chance to hear the new songs live soon. Neal commented: >My experience with places that do music and food is >that the food generally is mediocre to bad (with Iota being the only >exception I can think of... well, new 9:30 has ok food, though nowhere to >eat it.) The exception to this that I can name is the Towne Crier Cafe, in Pawling, NY (just over the border from CT, near Danbury). They have a small stage with an excellent sound system, and they serve some of the best food in the Southwestern genre I've ever had. (My mouth is watering even now as I recall the seafood stew over polenta I had the last time we were there... yummy!) We've seen the Chanting House there a couple times, and have reservations to see them there once again next weekend -- and Susan Werner is on the bill in November, which is certainly tempting. My only problem with them is that their food is *really* expensive, even if it is excellent (and the desserts are killer too), so we can't really afford to get up there often. It is well worth it once in a while, though! In keeping with your observations, however, the Bottom Line has ***bad*** food. As in, Avoid At All Costs (Dojo is right across the street and is cheap and fast and quite good). Fez is okay, but way overpriced (and messy). The Iron Horse has good burgers, most of the time. woj noted re Kirsty MacColl: >nope, england. i just poked around the web and she seems to have been born >in croydon, on the south side of london. dunno if she grew up there or not >though. I'm assuming the answer to that is yes -- she sounds like Billy Bragg (isn't he from that area too?). re Sarah Slean: >i was just played this for meredith without saying who it was. when she >asked, i told her it was tori amos demos. she *almost* believed me. Only because I'd only been awake for something like 10 minutes, thankyouverymuch! I really really really liked it, though. Great stuff. (Thanks, Steve! :) Neil K. wondered: >What kind of costs, and would people be willing to chip in a few cents >each to reclaim the domain? I assume Jeff was referring to the initial fee required by the InterNIC to set up the domain, and the $50 yearly fee to maintain it beyond that. (Jeff, would shore.net require something extra as well for the additional alias?) I'd be more than willing to help pitch in. Jeff's been gracious enough to host a number of great lists and web sites at smoe.org for no return whatsoever, and members of other lists have already done their part to help with other maintenance issues as they've come up. What do y'all think? Jeff, what exactly are you looking at costwise to point ecto.org at your machines? I think that's quite enough for now... :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | Boonton, NJ USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 18:19:17 -0500 (CDT) From: kerry white Subject: reminder Sessions Hi, Tonight's Sessions: Sinead O'Conner and World Party. Note: 1st 1/2 hour is WP, SO'C is last half. S sports a full head of hair. Kerry R White ............................... ............................. zzkwhite@ktwu.wuacc.edu KTWU PBS TV kerrywhite@webtv.net Topeka KS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:20:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Bowman Subject: Re: sTuff On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, meredith wrote: > Jeffy commented: > Then, he whined: > > > and for those of us for whom _Mask and Mirror_ was a big > >disappointment after the brilliance of _The Visit_? > > I'm completely flabbergasted that Mike, woj and I seem to be the only three > people on the planet who are loving this album. One of the things that > makes Loreena's music most appealing to me is the fact that she's not > afraid to go into new directions and explore new musical ground. The > amount of research she puts into each album is unprecedented (just look at > the liner notes), and the result is a rich tapestry of elements from > different musical traditions that you wouldn't necessarily expect to hear > woven together. Her Celtic stuff was nice, but after 4 albums of that it > was refreshing to hear something new and different. Granted, _The Book of > Secrets_ is quite similar musically to _The Mask and Mirror_, but it's > *far* from "New Age". You want New Age, check out John Tesh or Yanni. > Lorenna McKennitt is NOT it! You are not the only ones. I find BoS to be an incredible album, it has a really rich sound. My favorite of her albums is _The Visit_, but BoS is rapidly becoming my second favorite. On a change of direction, Loreena is currently on a bike tour of China, so who know's what influences there'll be on her next album? Michael Bowman bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu nr. Eric Hobsbawm. The Age of Revolution, 1789-1848 np. Loreena McKennitt. The Book of Secrets ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 21:33:10 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: sTuff Michael Bowman wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, meredith wrote: > > > Jeffy commented: > > Then, he whined: > > > > > and for those of us for whom _Mask and Mirror_ was a big > > >disappointment after the brilliance of _The Visit_? > > > > I'm completely flabbergasted that Mike, woj and I seem to be the only three > > people on the planet who are loving this album. > > You are not the only ones. I find BoS to be an incredible album, it has a > really rich sound. HEY!!!!! I haven't HEARD _Box of Secrets_ yet, so will you people please stop telling me how much I hate it? I merely commented that I wasn't particularly fond of _The Mask and the Mirror_ (which is to say that I almost never listen to it, though I often listen to the first four albums), which didn't bode well for BoS since everybody says it's a continuation of MatM. I also said that I'd be buying BoS because it is, after all, a Loreena album. So leave me alone already!!! jeffy np: a Women in Music show via real audio. wheee! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:35:18 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: sTuff On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 09:33:10PM -0400, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > I haven't HEARD _Box of Secrets_ yet, so will you people please stop telling > me how much I hate it? > > I merely commented that I wasn't particularly fond of _The Mask and the > Mirror_ (which is to say that I almost never listen to it, though I often > listen to the first four albums), which didn't bode well for BoS since > everybody says it's a continuation of MatM. I picked it up, despite not being a huge fan of LM (probably because I haven't given her the opportunity to sink in, having only MatM and her Christmas cd). I think it's a wonderful CD. It's got a very nice eastern influence (a la the 2nd half of Maria). - -jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:11:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: traditional music/WXPN On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 Silme@ix.netcom.com wrote: > If you're within hearing of Philly's superb WXPN (home of World Cafe), > listen to the Unicorn show for a great mix of traditional music. I grew > up listening to it back in the 1970's (guess I'm dating myself, eh?). > I'm no longer within hearing of the station, but I'm a long-distance > member, and I believe the show is still aired on Sunday evenings. I'm happy to say that I sort of am now. Hopefully with the bit of recent good press, it'll get even better: 1997 Best of Baltimore (from the CIty Paper) Best-Kept Radio Secret WKHS-FM 90.5's simulcast of Philadelphia's WXPN-FM 88.5 And for some reason, my radio seems to be working again, and reception in my new apartment is mysteriously strong. Neal np: Heidi Berry - Love (Bought today at Normal's , the Best of Baltimore Used Bookstore, which didn't have any of the books I wanted, but I still left with a big pile of music. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:36:24 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: sTuff Hi! Jeffy returned: >HEY!!!!! > >I haven't HEARD _Box of Secrets_ yet, so will you people please stop telling >me how much I hate it? I wasn't speaking directly to you. I was taking your sentiment and combining it with the similar views expressed here recently by others who have heard the album and made less than positive statements about it, and wondering at the fact that nobody else had jumped up and given it a good review. That's all. Jumpy today, aren't we? ;> +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | Boonton, NJ USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:35:38 -0500 (CDT) From: kerry white Subject: DVD Hi, Since one of the internal underwriters of Sessions is for Digital Video Discs, I thought I'd share a bit of an article in TV Technology. A new format has jumped in the marketplace: Divx. It has "military-grade copy protection". "Disney, Paramount, Universal and DreamWorks have agreed to provide movie titles for release on Divx...". "The new technology is attractive to the studios because it addresses their concern over motion picture piracy." Divx is pay for view and you have to be hooked into the phone line. You buy a Divx for about $5 and can play it all you want for 48 hours after you hit "play", after that you have to pay again. The company will call in the middle of the night for info on preparing an invioce. The studios >may< force a situation that pushes Divx hard onto consumers and those w/ DVD sets are out of luck: no upgrades. You can walk into Circuit City, see the signs about Divx and if you don't ask specific questions they will gladly sell you DVD, even tho they hope Divx will replace DVD. (Divx is Circuit City in partnership w/ a law firm) This all reminds me of Rita Rudner's refusal to buy CDs until she is sure that a new format isn't coming along. It can drive you crazy. She says those people who wander the streets and mutter loudly to themselves are those who had 8-track players. This is all FWIW and TWIMC. {{stirs up the pot and steps back to watch}} bye, KrW "AHA!!!" "What's wrong, Stones?" "I sat on my pipe!!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:52:04 -0400 From: "Joanna M. Phillips" Subject: Book of Secrets (was:Re: sTuff) > From: Michael Bowman > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Re: sTuff > Date: Saturday, October 11, 1997 8:20 PM (snip) > You are not the only ones. I find BoS to be an incredible album, it has a > really rich sound. My favorite of her albums is _The Visit_, but BoS is > rapidly becoming my second favorite. (snip some more) Whoa! You-all (everyone talking about the new Loreena McKennitt album) are gonna keep me doing double-takes on every post as long as you refer to it has her BoS ! For witches/wiccans, that's Book of Shadows! :-D fleur - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna M. Phillips | "...And into midnight's tapestry she fades ragged fleur@one.net | and wild/Searching down her ancestry in the | costume of a Persian child." -- Joan Baez - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://w3.one.net/~fleur/ <*> The Mouse House ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:42:42 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: reminder Sessions kerry white wrote: > > Hi, Tonight's Sessions: Sinead O'Conner and World Party. Note: 1st 1/2 > hour is WP, SO'C is last half. S sports a full head of hair. Thanks for posting this! I read this about 3 minutes before it was due to come on, and had just enough time to dig up a blank tape and slam it in the VCR and find the right channel. I had spaced on it, having been basking in the afterglow of the first new Babylon 5 episode in months, which had ended half an hour earlier. I wish I'd caught last week's episode (do they plan to rerun them?) My mother called me the next day to mention it, since she had seen Nadja Salerno Sonnenberg (who grew up down the block from me and was continually coming to our house to play the piano, and was quite an obnoxious twerp when she was little, and who has since tweaked her official biography quite a bit to obscure her ever having lived in Camden, NJ) on it. She said that Joe Jackson's music was "unusual" and that I might like it; she'd never heard of him before. BTW: does anyone know of any venues in Central NJ that would be interested in booking an experimental (or avant-garde or something like that) vocal trio? My group, Comma, is looking to do a quick run up the East Coast in mid-January, and it would seem to make sense to play New Brunswick or Princeton or somewhere like that on the way. We're doing original pieces and improvisations, along with pieces by John Cage, Pauline Oliveros, and possibly David Hykes and Meredith Monk. Any clues? 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