From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #20 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, September 24 1997 Volume 03 : Number 020 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ecto-digest V3 #19 [AURALG@aol.com] Taping? [isometric plaything ] Re: Maggie Estep [Richard Holmes ] Neile's Poems! (was "Re: few replies") [Richard Holmes ] Poetry [neile@sff.net (Neile Graham)] Re: new releases [neile@sff.net (Neile Graham)] [Fwd: Holly Cole] [charleydarbo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:00:17 -0400 (EDT) From: AURALG@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V3 #19 Happy 's Dates with Bon L are Nov6 Metro in saratoga, NY (not the Qe2) Nov 14, 15, 16, Philly, Baltimore and DC.. I don't know where or what date is what city yet, but we'll straighten that out soon Nov 20 NYC Bottom Line. This is as official as it gets as of today. I'll post the correct and finals soon. I do know that these are the only dates she has time to do. Love to all KB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:46:42 -0400 (EDT) From: isometric plaything Subject: Taping? Welp, the Dar show is SOLD OUT, so I get to sit and home tonight. Bummer, eh? I'm sadden by this experience.... On a different note, my friends band is playing, and I want to tape their performance. Can anyone recommend a tape device which handles regular sized tapes and has a good mic? I don't want a crapola recording. Thanks, - -cas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Re: Maggie Estep jwermont@netcom.com ("Joyce" Wermont) writes: > Glad this list is back!! Goddess, yes! Belatedly, I'm really glad too (did I say that before?). > I just wanted to thank the folks who posted here about Maggie Estep. Based > on what I read here about her, I went out and bought the CD "Love is a Dog > From Hell," and I love it! My favorites are: Stalk Me, I'm an Emotional > Idiot (brilliant!), and I Want Mangoes. Also really enjoy the story about > Jennie's shirt with the Eiffel towers painted on it. > > I recently found out that she has a previous album called "No More Mr. > Nice Girl." Has anyone heard that one? Is it anything like the second > one? And is it available?? I haven't been able to find it. Well, I've got the "No More Mr. Nice Girl." CD, and it is, er, unusual - good if I'm in that sort of mood. It is spoken word, some of it would be considered "offensive" (so don't play it for people before you've listened to it yourself) - but I'm guessing that the new one is this way as well. I wouldn't want to ever lose this cd, though I don't play it very often either... Unfortunately, I don't know if it is available anymore.... - -Richard. NR: Alice Walker, "In the Temple of my Familiar" NP: Concrete Blonde, "Bloodletting" @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "And where does magic come from? @ | I think magic's in the learning, @ , , | , , 'Cause when Christians sit with Pagans @ ' ' ' ' ' only pumpkin pies are burning" @ - Dar Williams, "The Christians and the Pagans" @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 16:23:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Neile's Poems! (was "Re: few replies") [Sorry this is so time-warped!] Michael Bowman writes: > On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, meredith wrote: > > > I just realized I forgot to ask Neile how the reading at Bumbershoot went. > > Neile? (Thanks for the Muzikas tour info, btw!) > > It went very well, I thought. John Zimmer and I went attended. Poetry is > better heard than read, at least for me. If no one's seen Neile's poetry, you should -- it is incredible. In addition to "Spells for a Clear Vision", I have "Sheila-Na-Gig", which is a bit different feel than "Spells..." and a simply must-have, though I don't know if any copies are left or if it is being rolled into a larger publication. Neile, forgive me if I've typo'd the titles... also, what poets to *you* read, Neile? My interest in poetry has grown in the last couple of years, but much of the "contemporary" poetry I've seen in anthologies just doesn't do it for me. Others are welcome to comment as well. Thanks for listening...... - -Richard. np: Katell Keineg: Jet nr: Alice Walker: "In the Temple of my Familiar" @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "If you could fill a veil with shells from Killarney's shore, @ | And sweet talk in a tongue that is no more, @ , , | , , If wishful thoughts could bridge / The Gulf of Araby between @ ' ' ' ' What is, what is, what is, / And what can never be. @ - Katell Keineg, "The Gulf of Araby" @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:29:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Subject: The power of the fan and the power of the net Today's _Chicago Tribune_ has a piece on how the current US tour by Marillion is bankrolled entirely by their fans, and how pretty much all the organizing of this effort was done online. I'm sure that all of Marillion's fans put together probably have more money than all of Happy's fans put together. simply because there are probably more of them; but it still makes a nice pipe dream of sorts :-). The story may be available on the web, at //www.chicago.tribune.com . It was in the Tempo section of the paper, and so links should be followed accordingly. On a more practical level, it seems to me that Happy could do worse than to liase with Sarah McLachlan about participating in next year's Lillith Fair. WRT woj's call for comments on the web archives, _inter alia_, I think that the archives are a marvelous resource (both the back posts, and the other things that havce been the original ftp archives), and that whatever posts in ecto history aren't already there should be added. As far as the fear of the archives setting us all up for junk emailers is concerned, it may well be overblown. While Dan has certainly suffered a lot of aggravation that way, I'm not sure that his case is anything more than a random and freakish occurrence. I get the odd piece of junk advertising email here and there, but am far from snowed under with it. My subjective sense is that at this point, most of our situations are probably closer to my experience than to Dan's. I would hate to see this valuable resource deep-sixed, or access to it restricted, just to insulate us from certain advertisers. A range of opinions on this should be heard. Also, the archive search engine, currently out of commission, should be restored; and if there is any way of making those pre-1995 files stored in compressed (.Z) form readable without having to download and decompress them, that too should be done. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 21:09:16 -0400 From: meredith Subject: new releases Hi! Here are some American album releases from today that may be of ecto interest (a LOT came out today!): > *Rock and Pop new releases* > --------------------------- > - JULIE ADAMS - Julie Adams and the Mountain Stage Band Live (Gadfly) > - SUSANA BACA - Susana Baca (Luaka Bop/WB) > - JOAN BAEZ - Gone from Danger (Guardian) > - BJORK - Homogenic (Elektra) > - BT - ESCM (Kinetic/Perfecto/Reprise) > - THE DEVLINS - Waiting (Radio Universe/Universal) > - SHARON SHANNON - Each Little Thing (Green Linnet) > - STEREOLAB - Dots and Loops (Elektra) > - ANDY STEWART - Donegal Rain (Green Linnet) > - THE SUNDAYS - Static & Silence (DGC) > - THE BEAUTIFUL SOUTH - blue is the colour (Ark 21) > > *Rock and Pop reissues* > ----------------------- > - MORPHINE - B-Sides and Otherwise (Rykodisc) > - DUSTY SPRINGFIELD - Wishin' and Hopin' - The Anthology > (Mercury/Chronicles) > - BILL WHELAN - Roots of Riverdance and The Seville Suite > (Celtic Heartbeat/Universal) > > *Jazz new releases* > ------------------- > - CASSANDRA WILSON AND JACKY TERRASSON - Rendezvous (Blue Note) > > *Jazz reissues* > --------------- > - BILLIE HOLIDAY - Lady in Satin (Columbia/Legacy) Looks like I got to get me to a recordery soon ... sigh ... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | Boonton, NJ USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 21:50:46 -0700 From: neile@sff.net (Neile Graham) Subject: Poetry Richard Holmes wrote: >If no one's seen Neile's poetry, you should -- it is incredible. In >addition to "Spells for a Clear Vision", I have "Sheila-Na-Gig", which >is a bit different feel than "Spells..." and a simply must-have, though >I don't know if any copies are left or if it is being rolled into a >larger publication. Richard, thanks for your words of encouragement! I thought _Sheela-na-Gig_ was out of print because it's a limited edition, but because the publisher forgot to number a batch of the printing, I was able to get 30 more copies. But that's the end of the print run. The poems will eventually most likely appear in another collection, but maybe not the same one. They are really different from the poems in _Spells_, which are meditative though not all in the head, I'd like to think. _Spells_ is about trying to make sense of the world, but _Sheela-na-Gig_ I call my angry women poems. If anyone is interested in reading four sample poems from _Spells_, they're on my web pages at http://www.sff.net/people/neile/spells.html Eventually I'd like to have samples from all my collections available, but I haven't done it yet. >Neile, forgive me if I've typo'd the titles... also, what poets to *you* >read, Neile? My interest in poetry has grown in the last couple of >years, but much of the "contemporary" poetry I've seen in anthologies >just doesn't do it for me. Others are welcome to comment as well. I read a huge variety of poetry, but like my musical tastes, I tend to like the obscure. Because a lot of people were asking me what I read, I put together a list, then this summer added to my web page. The full list is at http://www.sff.net/people/neile/reading.html, but this is the poetry section: Robert Bringhurst--The Beauty of the Weapons (earthy and intellectual both, and an evocative voice) Jorie Graham--Errancy (sometimes far too abstract but can capture intellectual passion like no one else. No, she's not a relation) W.S. Graham--Collected Poems (a master of addressing the the issue of communication. He's not a relation, either) Linda Gregg--Too Bright To See, Chosen by the Lion (emotional intensity and clarity of phrasing & vision) Robin Skelton--Timelight (intense and beautiful evocations of time & place. Skelton was my writing teacher, and died a month ago. I was at his memorial service this weekend. His posthumous book is going to be incredible) Some other recommended poets (not an exhaustive list, ask me some other time for that): Ai (esp. Sin) John Barton (esp. Great Men) Wendell Berry (Collected), Roo Borson (esp. A Sad Device) Marilyn Bowering (esp. Autobiography) Olga Broumas (esp. Beginning with O) Anne Carson (esp. Glass, Irony and God) Carolyn Forche (esp. The Country Between Us) Louise Gluck (esp. The House on Marshland) Beth Goobie (Scars of Light) Joy Harjo (esp. She Had Some Horses) Richard Hugo (esp. The Right Madness on Skye) Brigit Pegeen Kelly (esp. Song) Erin Moure (esp. Furious) Harold Rhenisch (esp. Dancing With My Daughter) Gail Tremblay (Indian Singing in 20th Century America) Bronwen Wallace (esp. The Stubborn Particulars of Grace) As in music, my preference is for passionate, original work, and most of my favourite artists in the field are women. - --Neile n.p. The Sundays, _static & silence_ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 21:50:41 -0700 From: neile@sff.net (Neile Graham) Subject: Re: new releases At 9:09 PM 9/23/97, meredith wrote: >Hi! > >Here are some American album releases from today that may be of ecto >interest (a LOT came out today!): >> - BJORK - Homogenic (Elektra) >> - STEREOLAB - Dots and Loops (Elektra) >> - THE SUNDAYS - Static & Silence (DGC) Well, our house has already indulged. Glad to find a local (indie!) retailer that puts new releases on sale, especially as it's still a couple of days until I get my first paycheck since the beginning of July. We also got the new Pram (ordered from Parasol Records) today--it's pretty damn wonderful, too. Ears in heaven - --Neile n.r. Wicked (still) n.p. Pram _Gash_ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:03:48 +0000 From: charleydarbo Subject: [Fwd: Holly Cole] I just received this from Holly's management comapany: > > I've Just Seen A Face - the first single from Dark. Dear Heart (Out > October 7th) is at radio in Canada. If you do not hear it on your > favorite station - call and request it! > > Holly Cole has been extremely busy and therefore, have not had time > to reply to all your emails. She does in fact read them all and > thanks everyone for your kind words, suggestions, and questions, > however, can not - at this time only - reply to them all. Please > understand that Holly has been recording, rehearsing, voguing for > cameras, and doing end list interviews. She will reply to them once > she has down time. > > Check out the web page for new information on the upcoming release > including bio, release dates, and non-stop tour dates, along with > some great new photos in the gallery. The Bulletin Board is a great > way to meet other Holly fans - that may even be able to help you to > answer some of your questions concerning Holly. > > Holly will be on the road starting next week in Japan, returning to > do some promotional days in late October and out again in November > to Germany and England. > > I understand everyone is asking for Canadian and US tour dates, > which at this time are unconfirmed and may not happen till the new > year. The web is always the first to be updated with Upcoming tour > dates. > > Thanks to everyone for your continuous interest in HOLLY HAPPENINGS > and please be patient. We will try to get her into your town soon. > I am, of course, thrilled beyond words to recognize the title of the album as one of Mary Margaret O'Hara's. I heard her (MMO'H) sing this song a couple years ago in New York, and she recorded it with The Henrys. An achingly beautiful, sad song: I can't wait to hear Holly's version. - --charley ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #20 *************************