From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #372 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 5 February 1996 Volume 02 : Number 372 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATH TRIED ERR Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 22:36:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Argh! Hi... I thought at least ONE radio station in the New York metropolitan area would carry Modern Rock Live, but apparently I was mistaken. :P :P :P If *anyone* taped Tori on this show, PLEASE let me know! Thanks... Meredith the disgruntled meth@delphi.com ------------------------------ From: gregdunn@indy.net (Greg Dunn) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:20:07 -0500 Subject: Re: sTuff >>Initially we're thinking of a Border's tour. Perhaps a trio, perhaps solo and >>then some evening shows in the towns she's in. We're actually setting that up >>now. We'll post a list as it gets closer. > >I really, *really* hope this Border's tour happens. It could very well be >the best career move she's made since putting _Warpaint_ out on CD. Say, there are several lovely ecto-friendly Borders around here: Bloomington, Indianapolis, Cincinnati... Wouldn't it be nice if.... - -- | Greg Dunn | "Information is not knowledge; | | GregDunn@aol.com | knowledge is not wisdom; | | gregdunn@indy.net | wisdom is not truth." | | Greg@gdunn.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil | -- Frank Zappa | ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 22:37:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: Warning! Hello, Warning, warning Warning!!!!! Stay away from Barnes&Noble! EWS is bad enough, but pseudo-EWS, OWW!! With 4 cds still new I can't pass B&N w/out wanting more! But actual Withdrawl should take more time to build up. The darned place just has *too* good a selection on everybody! KrW "Who was born today, Patty?" "Uh, nobody,Hugh." "I mean in history, before they changed the water.." ------------------------------ From: jeffy@wam.umd.edu Date: Sun, 04 Feb 96 23:49:24 EST Subject: Re: Argh! meth moaned: >I thought at least ONE radio station in the New York metropolitan area would >carry Modern Rock Live, but apparently I was mistaken. :P :P :P > >If *anyone* taped Tori on this show, PLEASE let me know! Thanks... I know you don't want to hear this, meth, but yes, I'm listening to Tori's MRL appearance, and frankly it's fuckin' INCREDIBLE, and of course, I don't have a way to record it. In fact, I didn't even know she was on tonight, until I left a coffee house and turned on the radio. Le'see. So far, I've heard "Leather", "Putting the Damage On," "Dougnut Song," "Losing My Religion," and one, "I don't feel like playing anything I've recorded, so I'll just improvise something really spiff." And there have been some intelligent questions and nifty (and often bizarre) answers. I need a tape deck. Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Joseph Zitt" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:01:48 +0000 Subject: Re: sTuff On 4 Feb 96 at 23:20, Greg Dunn wrote: > >>Initially we're thinking of a Border's tour. Perhaps a trio, perhaps solo and > >>then some evening shows in the towns she's in. We're actually setting that up > >>now. We'll post a list as it gets closer. > > > >I really, *really* hope this Border's tour happens. It could very well be > >the best career move she's made since putting _Warpaint_ out on CD. > > Say, there are several lovely ecto-friendly Borders around here: > Bloomington, Indianapolis, Cincinnati... Wouldn't it be nice if.... There's quite a nice Borders here in Dallas -- and they even have The Keep in their listen-to-this-here-are-the-headphones rack! - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ==== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Organizer, SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List \|| |/Joe Zitt's Home Page\| ------------------------------ From: "Xenu's Sister" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:27:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Wygals? & Tori pictures on my web page Hi there! I've recently become a slave of Snappy!, a cute little device to capture video images. I used it to get the images of Happy on my Collective Heart page, and I just put up a bunch of images of Tori from her recent appearances on 120 Minutes, Regis and Kathie Lee, and Saturday Night Live. (http://miso.wwa.com/~vickie/artists/tori.html) Anyway, I'm flirting with the idea of adding an images page to go along with the Suspended In Gaffa / Ecto Artists page, and in preparation I'm gathered a bunch of images from various artists, such as Diamanda, Aster Aweke, Carla Bley...just going through video tapes and "snapping" away. Considering that we have hundreds of video tapes, it could turn into a nightmare, but as long as stays fun, I'll continue to consider the possibilities. (That didn't make any sense, did it?) I'm not sure if it'll be useful or wanted. Would anyone want to see images from videos and live performance in lieu of seeing the actual videos? I don't know. I captured about 20 cool images from a Diamanda video before I realized that it's certainly no substitute for seeing the actual video. Would people think "what's the point?"? (why does that seem so right and look so wrong? Is there a word for people who study punctuation? Punctuologist?) Feedback anyone? Aaaanyway, I was going through a tape last night with some very interesting artists, such as Diamanda (the video for "Double-Barrelled Prayer"), Clara Rockmore, Mary Margaret O'Hara, and others, and I came across a group called The Wygals. I didn't tape this, it came from my friend Kim...she thought I'd like it. I do like it, and I've never heard of the band before getting this tape from Kim, and I've never heard of the band since. Has *anyone* heard of The Wygals? The name of the song is "Eat A Horse" and the album (which I've never seen) looks like _Honyocks In The Whithersoever_ (?) on Rough Trade Records. Kim gave me this video (which was played on MTV's 120 Minutes...probably just this once) in 1990, but I don't know when she got it. Any tidbits of information at all would be appreciated. Thanks! I'll let you know if this images archive gets off the ground. Vickie (you think *you're* confused?) http://miso.wwa.com/~vickie/ ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 08:10:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ectophiles Guide volunteers Just wondering if there's anyone else out there willing to join this project. It entails receiving collections of comments on an artist and formatting and organizing them, then sending them back. We have a great core of people, but as usual with projects of this size people can make varying commitments at varying time--myself included because I've been probably the slowest--and I want to keep the Guide moving along. Anyway, anyone with an interest and some time is welcome. Please email me at ethelred@u.washington.edu Thanks! - --Neile ------------------------------ From: ptv@rtp.scm-metals.com (Patrick Varker) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 12:36:25 -0500 Subject: Tori tv Guess I missed Tori on CBS This Morning today, could someone tell me what she sang, did they interview her, etc. Also I saw that someone had posted that she would be on Letterman. I know about the Leno show this week but when is Letterman? Also can anyone give me info on her appearance on Regis & Kathie Lee last Friday(2nd)? Thanks in advance for the info. Patrick ------------------------------ From: Miguel Antonio Gonzalez Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 13:26:23 +0100 Subject: Tori on WNEW-FM New York I'm listening as I type, and is it me, or does Carol Miller seem just out of the loop? Tori seems kind of perplexed during the interview parts, so I guess it's a good thing Tori is playing excerpts as well. Other Tori media sightings: Raygun - review for BFP (SamGoody/Musicland freebie magazine) February 9th issue of Entertainment Weekly - page 55, `PELE` THE CONQUEROR, a short blurb on BFP debuting at #2. Dad #2 ------------------------------ From: MJM Date: 05 Feb 96 13:56:03 EST Subject: Jewel Is anyone going to see Jewel in Milwaukee this Thu.? I am hoping to try to make it there (is that definite enough? :-). - -mjm ------------------------------ From: Charley.Darbo@harpercollins.com (Charley Darbo) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:30:21 -0500 Subject: I'm baaaaaack. Hi, all-- I'm back, one gallbladder lighter, and with an entirely new definition of the word PAIN. I've had kidneystones, and I'd rather have kidneystones; even though my last one looked like a black EverlastingGobstopper and was passed -- are you ready? -- into the urinal of a movie theater. This -- gallstones that fell into my common duct and blocked my liver and pancreas, making me pee bourbon and shit oatmeal and turning me the color of a McDonald'sBananaShake -- felt like The Iron Hand of God, wristdeep in me just below my sternum, clutching and twisting. It wasn't even worth the morphine. There are a lot of posts I want to respond to, and I'll catch up when I can. But I returned to work to find 505 E-mail messages, only three of which are work-related. So no promises just yet. --charleydarbo ------------------------------ From: Yngve Hauge Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:48:15 +0100 Subject: Velvet Belly - Conversation Stops Hi you all, I bought the new Velvet Belly single the other day (Think it is their first single whatsoever) and I'm really impressed. After Bel Canto kinda failed with their last single VB is getting better and better. Seems like they are continuing to do whatever they want musically even after they've changed label to BMG. This single might be available at least in Europe if what I heard is correct (*beg*) They really deserve to get out to the rest of the world ... At the moment the best band in Norway for sure ... *hugs* Yngve - -- ________________________________________________________________ Yngve Hauge | __ ___ __ | | _ www: http://ulke.himolde.no/~yngveh/ |-- | | | ||-- |_||| |_ Irc-nick: One Alien |__ |__ | |__|| | |||_|_ ------------------------------ From: "Stuart P. Myerburg" Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:02:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: sTuff Meredith wondered: > She made a video for "Pretty Good Year"?!?!? I said the same thing when I heard the first notes of "PGY." > What's it like? At the beginning, Tori comes crashing through a window. At this point, I did remember some discussion somewhere of a video where this occurred, although I could have sworn this was supposed to happen in the non-US "Cornflake Girl" video. Anyway, after coming through the window, Tori ends up in a fairly barren room. The rest of the video shows Tori singing while sitting on a couch and/or sofa, laying in bed with some blonde guy, or surrounded by men in underwear and hats. It felt more like a _Little Earthquakes_ era video than any of the more recent ones. I wonder if it was directed by Cindy Palmano... Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg stuart@law.emory.edu Information Technology Services labspm@emory.edu Emory University School of Law http://www.law.emory.edu/~stuart __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: pearceja@mailgw.wl.wpafb.af.mil Date: Mon, 5 Feb 96 17:04:14 -0500 Subject: Cutout Tribe CDs/Martha & the Muffins I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 05-Feb-1996 04:48pm EST From: Jeffrey A. Pearce (Contractor) PEARCEJA Dept: POPR (UTC) Tel No: 54171 TO: Remote MILNET Mail ( _DDN[ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu] ) Subject: Cutout Tribe CDs/Martha & the Muffins To whoever's interested, my local Borders (Dayton, Ohio) has the Tribe CDs "Abort" and "Sleeper" as cutouts. If you're looking for them, try your local Borders. They're $7.99. Also, I recall some discussion (probably more than a year ago) about Martha & the Muffins. Is their back catalog ever going to be released on CD (please)? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. The "Faraway in Time" compilation is simply not enough! Jeff ------------------------------ From: hobbes@wintermute.co.uk Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 22:37:14 GMT Subject: Sleeper Hello, You should all do your ears a favour and buy "Smart" by Sleeper. The singer/songwriter Louise Verner has a huge talent (she and her band beat Alanis to "Best Newcomer" in the 1995 Q Awards - even though Alanis should have won :)) Its been out a while, but they are having some trouble breaking into the US. If anyone wants a sample wav - I will happily oblige :) Take care, Paul < hobbes@wintermute.co.uk > ------------------------------ From: Rudi Pittman Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 19:33:50 -0500 Subject: [none] unsubscribe ecto ------------------------------ From: Anthony Kosky Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:11:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Chas and Dave? Sue wrote: >I'll be totally embarrassed if this has come up already on ecto and I >missed reading about it :) but I just got a copy of the limited edition >"Caught a Lite Sneeze" single, which features a "Tribute to Chas and Dave" >(tracks are "London Girls" and "That's What I Like Mick"). Who are these >guys, and why is Tori covering them? Enquiring minds want to know! (Apologies if this has already been covered, since I'm a bit behind, but a brief skim of recent ecto's didn't reveal any answers). Chas and Dave are two cockney pub performers who had a brief period of mega-stardom in England about a decade or so ago. As I recall they first became known for the music they did for a series of Courage Best (beer) tv advertisments. They then had some hit singles including non-brand specific versions of the songs from the Courage Best commercials: the ones I remember were called Urtcha (sp?) and Rabbit. Rabbit was particularly popular and got them on top-of-the-pops a few times. I don't know what they've done before or since, or why Tori chose to cover them. All this is based on my own, somewhat disfunctional and frequently inaccurate memory. - -Anthony ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:32:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wygals? & Tori pictures on my web page On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Xenu's Sister wrote: > Has *anyone* heard of The Wygals? The name of the song is "Eat A > Horse" and the album (which I've never seen) looks like _Honyocks > In The Whithersoever_ (?) on Rough Trade Records. Kim gave me this > video (which was played on MTV's 120 Minutes...probably just this > once) in 1990, but I don't know when she got it. I have this disc, though I don't know much about the band, or even why I bought it :) I guess it just caught my fancy somewhere. I haven't listened to it in years, and recall that it was nice enough, but not all that interesting. It's copyright 1989 and was recorded in Hoboken, New Jersey. The band consists of Janet and Doug Wygal, Gene Holder, Mary Phillips and Erik Boyd, with Tricia Wygal credited with Cameo Yodeling. Track list is: Eat A Horse Passion Creature Comforts The Falls Try Honyocks in the Whitersoever Slap Me Like A Wave Lonely Sleep With The Angels Darken My Doorway Paradise The Room If you want a tape of it Vickie, it's yours for the asking. Perhaps if I feel like listening to it later I'll make some further comments. From a distant faded memory, there was one Cocteau-ish song, and the rest was sort of a Cocteau swirl mixed with poppier stuff like The Darling Buds. Also reminded me vaguely of X-Mal Deutshland in English with stronger song-structure. Then again, maybe I really should listen to it again before commenting. Neal ------------------------------ From: maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 96 21:53:43 EST Subject: Re: Wygals? & Tori pictures on my web page At 01:27 AM 2/5/96 -0600, Xenu's Sister wrote: > >Hi there! I've recently become a slave of Snappy!, a cute little >device to capture video images. I used it to get the images of >Happy on my Collective Heart page, and I just put up a bunch of >images of Tori from her recent appearances on 120 Minutes, Regis >and Kathie Lee, and Saturday Night Live. Hee hee hee. Last week, I tried watching tv with my Snappy hooked into the VCR. It was a blast. It just so happens that I grabbed an image of Tori from the "Caught A Lite Sneeze" video. It was the first time I'd seen it and I was _impressed_. My computer's wallpaper now is a close-up of Tori singing against the background of roiling, sea-colored clouds. As far as grabbing stills from videos for your site, I don't see why not. If you stick to the core images of the video (such as the Tori snap I took), you'll give visitors a good idea of what the video is like. Alternately, you could grab shots that you might ordinarily miss while watching the video, yet carry meaning or beauty (freeze-frame fun). In either case, as long as you don't get carried away with the quantity of images, it would be interesting. - - Mike Michael Doyle maeldun@i-2000.com =================================================================== "If I were not Alexander, I would be Diogenes" - - Alexander the Great ------------------------------ From: ariana@nycmetro.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 22:25:26 -0500 Subject: ecto-digest V2 #371 Tori Tori Tori...Well this morning on my way to work I listened to WDRE 9.27 and they said that Tori would be on at 10am...Well I would be working without the ability to pick up wdre. When I came home my friend Jen left a message that she taped it and she will make me a copy. :) Plus she told me Tori would be on at 6pm on kroq. So I taped and listened to tori dj for the radio station. Kind of cute. My friend said that on wdre she sang to the tune of cornflake girl gary's girl. The dj is gary c. Kind of cute. My friend also taped her for 20 minutes on wnew. Now someone wrote she was on CBS this morning. IF i knew I would have taped her. :( And I tried to find her last night on z-100 but no luck. I heard she would be on z100 today but I did not catch her. I just watched Melrose Place tonight. The first song they placed I really liked. Does anyone know who sang. Some female ectoish singer. She sang something about dancing on his grave. (No not Sinead O'connor) ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 22:34:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wygals? & late night musical guests On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Neal Copperman wrote: > The band consists of Janet and Doug Wygal, Gene Holder, Mary Phillips and > Erik Boyd, with Tricia Wygal credited with Cameo Yodeling. Gene Holder used to be in the dB's, a wonderful '80s pop band that released several classic albums, including "Stands for deciBels," "Like This" and "The Sound of Music." He left the dB's to join the Wygals and the band broke up. Peter Holsapple, another former dB, has become fairly well known as an occasional R.E.M. sideman and member of the Continental Drifters. He is married to Susan Cowsill of '70s pop band the Cowsills. (I am a regular fount of pop trivia tonight!) I don't have the Wygals album, though, so I'm afraid I can't comment on its musical value. But anyone who's into that whole Big Star/Raspberries/ Badfinger etc. pop sound should dig the dB's. (Another ex-dB, Chris Stamey, has released several solo albums.) And now for the lineups...which, as positively everybody knows by now, you can always get at www.interbridge.com/lineups.html. LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, CBS Th 2/8 Soul Asylum Fr 2/9 The Ramones Mo 2/12 Gin Blossoms Tu 2/13 Bette Midler We 2/14 Neil Diamond Th 2/15 Lenny Kravitz THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO, NBC Mo 2/5 Bruce Hornsby Th 2/8 *****Tori Amos***** We 2/14 Amy Grant Th 2/15 Jackson Browne Fr 2/16 k.d. lang LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, NBC Mo 2/5 Heather Nova (repeat of 12/13/95) Tu 2/6 McCoy Tyner Fr 2/9 Blur Mo 2/12 The Amps (repeat of 12/14/95) We 2/14 John Hiatt Th 2/15 Chris Jagger - --Sue Trowbridge n.p. Jason and Alison "Woodshed" ------------------------------ From: AfterMe@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:20:16 -0500 Subject: AfterMe, Highest Bids, Feb. 5th 1996 THE AUCTION, by AfterMe@aol.com Highest Bids Thus Far BIDDING CLOSES FEB 10TH, 1996. Silent All These Years w/ Ode To The Banana King(pt.1), Song For Eric, Happy Phantom(live) Digi-Pack, East/West, Lyrics to all included, HIGHEST BID $65 Crucify BLACK BOX SET w/ Little Earthquakes(live), Crucify(live), Precious Things(live), Mother(live), with art prints included, HIGHEST BID $75 Pretty Good Year w/ Home On The Range, Daisy Dead Petals, Digi-Pack, East/West, Honey lyrics on inside, HIGHEST BID $30 Past The Mission(live) w/ Upside Down(live), Icicle(live), Flying Dutchman(live) Digi-Pack, East/West, Tour Dates Inside, HIGHEST BID $40 Cornflake Girl w/ A case Of You, If 6 Was 9, Strange Fruit, Digi-Pack, East/West, Tori’s comments on inside, HIGHEST BID $70 Under The Pink + More Pink The B-Sides, Australian Double Cd, 1st Cd -Under The Pink Studio Album 2nd Cd- Collection of B-sides---A Case Of You, Honey, Daisy Dead Petals, Sister Janet, Sugar, Take To The Sky, Upside Down, Flying Dutchman, Here In My Head(live), Black Swan, Little Drummer Boy(live) HIGHEST BID $32 Thanks, - -CHRIS ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #372 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu