From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #371 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, 4 February 1996 Volume 02 : Number 371 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart P. Myerburg" Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 00:53:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boys for Pele Listening Party I went to the Out Magazine/Atlantic Records listening party for _Boys for Pele_ this evening. Rumor had it Tori would definitely be at the Atlanta party, so I went. Well, in fact, she *was* going to be at the Atlanta party, but thanks to the freezing weather and Hartsfield airport closing, she never made it out of Washington, D.C. :-( :-( :-( The Atlantic Records reps. were very apologetic, but that didn't really make up for the lack of Tori. We did get to watch Tori videos (including "Pretty Good Year" and "Past the Mission," which I had never seen) and listen to almost all of _Boys for Pele_. We also got some goodies, like the promo greatest hits CD, a picture book, and posters. If anyone is considering going to an upcoming one, I'd say it is worth it just for the free stuff. Plus, since Tori didn't make it to this party, she probably will be going to one of the other ones. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg stuart@law.emory.edu Information Technology Services labspm@emory.edu Emory University School of Law http://www.law.emory.edu/~stuart __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: f.mcguire1@genie.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 96 21:01:00 UTC 0000 Subject: unsubscribe Hi, I will be signing off of Ecto for a while. GEnie has been sold, and their new pricing is ridiculous. I'll be online til the end of February, at the same address. But GEnie increased the rates for this month, so we're trying to keep the bill down. I'd like to thank everyone for introducing me to some great music :) It's really nice to be on a mailing list where everyone is friendly. I hope to be able to resubscribe when we sign up to another account. Thanks, Sherry McGuire ------------------------------ From: Cheri Villines Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:01:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: jewel in kc (also, thanks for advice) Just thought I would let you know that Jewel will not be playing in KC after all, but in Lawrence, KS at The Bottleneck, Feb 13, instead. The Edwin McCain band is listed as main attraction, though I have never heard of them, with Jewel as special guest. I am driving 4 1/2 hours to get there, I hope she shows up! :) Tickets are $8.00; $10.50 if you have to go through TM like I did. *grrrrr* Cheri p.s. thanks to everyone that responded to my request for car stereo info. i got some good advice! ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:58:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: jewel in kc (also, thanks for advice) On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Cheri Villines wrote: > The Edwin > McCain band is listed as main attraction, though I have never heard of > them, with Jewel as special guest. My advice would be to cut out after Jewel's performance. Edwin McCain is pretty mainstream generic rock 'n roll, highly non-ecto. There's a saxophone player, which adds a bit of interest to the musical mix, but McCain's voice reminds me a lot of the guy from the Black Crowes and I just don't care for that style of singing. Neal thought they were more like one of those HORDE bands (Phish, Blues Traveler etc) so if you like that kind of stuff YMMV :) - --Sue Trowbridge trow@access.digex.net +++ trow@charm.net www.interbridge.com +++ www.access.digex.net/~trow/ Pick hit: Aimee Mann, I'M WITH STUPID ------------------------------ From: AfterMe@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:59:09 -0500 Subject: Tori Highest Bids- AfterMe THE AUCTION, by AfterMe@aol.com Highest Bids Thus Far ****NOTE**** The Auction's Ending has been moved up to FEB. 10th, 1996. Silent All These Years w/ Ode To The Banana King(pt.1), Song For Eric, Happy Phantom(live) Digi-Pack, East/West, Lyrics to all included, HIGHEST BID $50 Crucify BLACK BOX SET w/ Little Earthquakes(live), Crucify(live), Precious Things(live), Mother(live), with art prints included, HIGHEST BID $75 Pretty Good Year w/ Home On The Range, Daisy Dead Petals, Digi-Pack, East/West, Honey lyrics on inside, HIGHEST BID $30 Past The Mission(live) w/ Upside Down(live), Icicle(live), Flying Dutchman(live) Digi-Pack, East/West, Tour Dates Inside, HIGHEST BID $40 Cornflake Girl w/ A case Of You, If 6 Was 9, Strange Fruit, Digi-Pack, East/West, Tori’s comments on inside, HIGHEST BID $60 Under The Pink + More Pink The B-Sides, Australian Double Cd, 1st Cd -Under The Pink Studio Album 2nd Cd- Collection of B-sides---A Case Of You, Honey, Daisy Dead Petals, Sister Janet, Sugar, Take To The Sky, Upside Down, Flying Dutchman, Here In My Head(live), Black Swan, Little Drummer Boy(live) HIGHEST BID $30 Thanks, - -CHRIS ------------------------------ From: pink Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 23:15:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: a dissenting thought on tori-damn this is long. i will probably get flamed for this. but i feel that someone has to say it. because it is bugging me: if what sue says below is true about tori and how RS's review affected her, i think tori has some growing up to do. > Sue Trowbridge wrote: > >I heard that Tori was in tears during her Saturday Night Live rehearsal > >because she was so upset about the Rolling Stone review of BFP. Apparently > >she is tremendously down in the dumps about the beating the album has been > >taking in the press at the hands of a few ignorant music critics. this may sound extremely harsh. but i just needed to say it. tori is an amazing artist. but sometimes the artist cannot separate themselves from their art. and tori has to realize that maybe, just maybe the result isn't what it could have been. i didn't read the rolling stone article. but if i were to write a review of BfP i would not have given it a very high grade either. i feel their are some really great moments in the album. but on the whole it fails to hold my interest. and i wonder why. if tori cannot handle criticism, how is she going to grow as an artist? NOW there is a difference between slamming someone, and writing a constructive review of an album. i know that. but someone needs to tell tori that if she was slammed by a reporter saying something like "tori is not one of us, she is one of the useless" that is just bullshit. the writer is just trying to be an asshole by writing something he thinks is clever and a soundbyte. now i understand that it hurts to have your artwork slammed. to have something that you put out for the world shunned, or insulted. but that go with the territory. and if you don't want to hear that, then keep writing and producing music, but don't release it for the public, or better yet, release it and sell it via your own fan club. it is not as if she is in it for the money, i am sure she has more than enough of that. tori has to realize that perhaps, just perhaps there is a reason why some reviewers didn't like the work. tori needs to realize that either she ignores reviews or read them for constructive criticism. tori has released TWO albums already. and if on her third album she gets so upset over one review, then she needs to find another occupation. i have the album for about a month and have tried and tried to like the album as much as everyone else seems to. when i first listened it, i thought, hmmm...new tori, not bad. then i listened to it some more and i thought, wow this is pretty damn good. now i back to , ho hum, more tori, i think i would rather listen to LE. or better yet that bootleg i just got in the mail.... BfP just did not hold my interest. it is not a very tight album. in fact it is a sloppy album i feel. a rambling derivative album that has some great moments, but are lost in the rest of the somewhat mediocre muck. a lot of the album makes me feel like tori was just fooling around in the studio. ramblings and piano playing makes me think of the LE demos and outtakes, or perhaps a concert. except the LE demos are cleaner and more conherent because the songs are structured better, and the concerts have more energy and presences and hence can pull it off. i really feel BfP needs a tighter focus and a tighter arrangment. the album probably would have been better if there was 20 minutes cut out. but i think that today artist's feel like if you can fit 72 minutes on a CD there better be 72 minutes on there. i am not slamming tori for just using the piano and her voice. songs like "hey jupiter" work fairly well (though it goes on one too many verses), as does my favorite songs FATHER LUCIFER. but there aren't that many hooks to draw the audience and when you leave out the hooks, and you make a long rambling CD. i wonder why i don't like the album as much as others do. i loved LE and really liked UtP. but this one failed. is it because eric wasn't there producing, adding hooks and instruments, and telling tori, no this goes on too long, or add this here. i wonder if the downfall of recording artists is to selfproduce. i often feel this way about Happy as well. i love her music, she has a fabulous voice, but if she were to let someone else (someone besides kevin bartlett, who i love and respect too) listen and perhaps have some input, perhaps her music would soar instead of just fly. and that is how i feel about tori's latest product. BfP is not horrible. far from there. but in relation to what i have heard in the past and what i KNOW she is capable of, it is less than satisfactory. i must have made the album sound like it was one of the worst things i have heard. it isn't. but it isn't nearly what i wanted or wished it to be. finally i quote from this article that was posted: > On Boys for Pele, though, Amos slips into self-parody. The > entirely self-produced album overindulges every one of her > trademark gestures - highly mannered vocals [260Kbytes > .aiff], musical non sequiturs [260Kbytes .aiff], and loose, > rambling song structures - until they become cartoonish in > proportion. i agree. sorry. but too much of the songs sound like tori's song THOUGHTS, a rehearsal rambling that tori did when she was having problems problems recording the song "girl." and. that is my thoughts. i know i probably won't be liked for voicing my opinion. but i just had to say it. and you may call me irvin ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:49:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: jewel in kc (also, thanks for advice) On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Cheri Villines wrote: > > > The Edwin > > McCain band is listed as main attraction, though I have never heard of > > them, with Jewel as special guest. I've heard this called a split headlining show. Sue and I saw it on Thursday, and Jewel played for roughly an hour, so you'll get a decent set for your drive. I have no idea how long Edwin McCain played. His first song was kind of feel-goody, with a nice rhythm and some yummy bari sax accents. Song two was slower and less appealing, and song three was very generic, so we left. He seemed very good natured and a nice guy, and the band seemed capable (though not capable of inspiring me). > McCain's voice reminds me a lot of the guy from the Black Crowes I wasn't particularly interested, but I didn't dislike him like I do the Black Crowes! > Pick hit: Aimee Mann, I'M WITH STUPID In concert Tuesday!!! Neal ------------------------------ From: Mike Matthews Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 00:15:07 -0500 Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Stephen Thomas (spt@cs.nott.ac.uk) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Stephen Thomas Fri February 04 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 02:01:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: unsubscribe On Sat, 3 Feb 1996 f.mcguire1@genie.com wrote: > Hi, > > I will be signing off of Ecto for a while. GEnie has been sold, and their > new pricing is ridiculous. I'll be online til the end of February, at the Well, with the expolosion of the internet, you should be able to find a local provider with some decent rates that beat Genie's new pricing. Check aroud. Good Luck. Dan - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK 89X / The River dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca ~\\|//~ CKLW / CKWW -(o o)- Windsor-Detroit - -----------------------------o000o--(_)--o000o------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 02:17:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: jewel in kc (also, thanks for advice) On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Neal Copperman wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > I have no idea how long Edwin McCain played. His first song was kind of > feel-goody, with a nice rhythm and some yummy bari sax accents. Song two > was slower and less appealing, and song three was very generic, so we > left. He seemed very good natured and a nice guy, and the band seemed > capable (though not capable of inspiring me). I see a few people here saying they're leaving Edwin McCain's segment. Hmmm... I personally like the single, "Sorry To A Friend", and there was another good song I heard from the CD too. But if he's boring, then I'll likely split too. I'm going to see Jewel (in Ann Arbor), and I have little doubt that anyone following her will be an anti-climax! Dan - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK 89X / The River dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca ~\\|//~ CKLW / CKWW -(o o)- Windsor-Detroit - -----------------------------o000o--(_)--o000o------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Yngve Hauge Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:05:55 +0100 Subject: Re: Diverse Airs On Sundry Notions Just a quick note to say that here in Norway the reviews of BfP are just incredible. Read the Puls-review last night and it really hit the bulls eye ... hard to grab on first listen -> hooked, addicted on the second. That magazine is just wonderful. Nice articles, nice reviews etc etc. The people really know what they are doing. It was the same mag that wrote such a positive review of Throwing Muses' University that I cried. They did actually wonder if she was the 10. Muse ... The local newspaper did give BfP 5 out of 6 (I had not expected that :) so if someone gets to talk to Tori in the near future - tell her that she got well received in Norway (of all places :) *hugs* Yngve ------------------------------ From: Dirk Kastens Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:07:17 +0100 (NFT) Subject: Re: pj harvey b-sides Hi Karl, sorry for the belated reply, but I've been on vacation during the last four weeks. The 2CD-set is a French pressing. The number is Island CIDZ 8035, 524 179-2 The track list is 1. Reeling 2. Daddy 3. Lying in the sun 4. Somebody's down, somebody's name 5. Darling be there 6. Maniac 7. One time too many 8. Harder 9. Goodnight Regards, Dirk Kastens _______________Dirk.Kastens@rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE Universitaet Osnabrueck Phone: +49/541/969-2347 (work) Rechenzentrum Fax: +49/541/969-2470 (work) Albrechtstr. 28 Phone: +49/541/258182 (private) 49069 Osnabrueck Germany ------------------------------ From: AfterMe@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 13:17:44 -0500 Subject: After Me Tori Bids Jan. 4th Afternoon THE AUCTION, by AfterMe@aol.com Highest Bids Thus Far Jan. 4th Afternoon Silent All These Years w/ Ode To The Banana King(pt.1), Song For Eric, Happy Phantom(live) Digi-Pack, East/West, Lyrics to all included, HIGHEST BID $60 Crucify BLACK BOX SET w/ Little Earthquakes(live), Crucify(live), Precious Things(live), Mother(live), with art prints included, HIGHEST BID $75 Pretty Good Year w/ Home On The Range, Daisy Dead Petals, Digi-Pack, East/West, Honey lyrics on inside, HIGHEST BID $30 Past The Mission(live) w/ Upside Down(live), Icicle(live), Flying Dutchman(live) Digi-Pack, East/West, Tour Dates Inside, HIGHEST BID $40 Cornflake Girl w/ A case Of You, If 6 Was 9, Strange Fruit, Digi-Pack, East/West, Tori’s comments on inside, HIGHEST BID $65 Under The Pink + More Pink The B-Sides, Australian Double Cd, 1st Cd -Under The Pink Studio Album 2nd Cd- Collection of B-sides---A Case Of You, Honey, Daisy Dead Petals, Sister Janet, Sugar, Take To The Sky, Upside Down, Flying Dutchman, Here In My Head(live), Black Swan, Little Drummer Boy(live) HIGHEST BID $30 Thanks, - -Chris ------------------------------ From: "S. Lunsford & T. O'Reilly" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:37:38 +0000 Subject: Sage - url change Hi everyone, I really really hope that this isn't going to get anyone mad at me, but I figured it was a good way to get the info out -- my url has changed (hurrah!!) *grin* those of you who were subjected to my tearful "I can't get it to work" messages will be happy to hear it, I'm sure... Anyway, the new url is: http://www.best.com/~tyrtle/ Thanks very much to those of you who are linking to me. Just me, the one who seems physically unable to listen to Dar Williams' new album without ending up in a big soggy sobbing mess - -Sage ____________________________________________________________________ Sage, Todd and the eight feline cohorts: sagetodd@postoffice.ptd.net Not to mention: http://www.best.com/~tyrtle/ where you can fall in and spend hours. Literally. ------------------------------ From: MATH TRIED ERR Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 22:14:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: sTuff Hi! This is pretty funny. I've got the stereo in the living room taping Susan McKeown and Chris Cunningham from the Chanting House on Nick Hill's show on WFMU, and on the stereo in the bedroom we've got Aimee Mann on Vin Scelsa's show on WNEW. Talk about sensory overload. And I have to remember to tape Tori on Modern Rock Live later on, then I have to set up a videotape to capture Tori on CBS This Morning tomorrow, and when I get home I have to tape Aimee Mann on Letterman too. When it rains it pours, as they say... Anyway, I tried to win tickets to be in the studio audience for CBS This Morning -- WFUV was giving them away on Friday (Groundhog Day) to the first 8 people who could spell "Punxsitawney", the town in Pennsylvania where the legendary weather-forecasting rodent lives. (The above is apparent- ly NOT how to spell the name of that town, btw. :P) Oh well. We were supposed to see Aimee Mann at Irving Plaza this past Thursday night, but thanks to some idiot Irving Plaza employees who didn't know when their own doors opened and knew even less about how many tickets were left, we didn't make it. :P And of course, within the past few days I've really seen the light and come to like _I'm With Stupid_ quite a bit. Oh well. This Friday night, Ani DiFranco is performing in Englewood, NJ (just across the George Washington Bridge from NYC). Any ectophiles going? I'm thinking about it, but since woj isn't coming back from Montana until later on that night, I don't want to go by myself (wimp!). Friday and Saturday, Susan McKeown & the Chanting House are at Fez. woj and I will be there on Saturday -- based on what I'm hearing on Nick's show right now, it's going to be amazing. Anybody else going to that too? (They're going to be at Cafe Sin-e tomorrow night as well, but I won't be able to make it for that, alas...) Hmmm - interesting. Nick just played "Snakes/Mna na hElreann" from their album _Bones_, and Susan McKeown explained that the Gaelic poem which rounds out the song is a very very popular one, and "Kate Bush just did it for a new compilation that's coming out." Cool! I wondered which song she did for the Celtic thing that's coming out next March... now we know. I urge everyone to run out and buy _Bones_ for a sneak preview. ;> Laurel inquired: >Any comments on the DEAD MAN WALKING soundtrack? It sounds like a >real gem, with Lyle Lovett, Suzanne Vega, Tom Waits, Michelle >Shocked, and others adding all-new tracks written after seeing the >movie... I don't have the full album yet, but I'm going to remedy that real soon now. The tracks I've heard (by Patti Smith, Johnny Cash, Michelle Shocked, and Suzanne Vega) have all been incredible. I can only imagine the rest of the album is as good. D^2 forwarded: >Found this in an entertaining book, _The New Book of Rock Lists_, by Dave >Marsh and James Bernard. Thought you'd all enjoy Ms. Hynde's words of >wisdom... Thanks, Dave! Garry responded: >Thanks for the info Meredith. I knew someone would be able to tell me all! I >look forward to hearing their new material when it becomes available. I only >have a copy of the In My Tribe, and the Eden albums, along with a great bootleg >cd of their last ever live concert. Ive seen the Wishing Chair cd several >times (its a mid-price over here) but have never got around to buying it. Will >have to go out and get it now!! Yes, definitely. It's very different, but still quite good. >Id love to see them live, but unfortunately I cant imagine them coming >downunder to Melbourne to do a show. (sigh) Well, they're going to London this summer, so you never know! :) Kevin revealed: >Floods, Blizzards, Fireballs and Earthquakes, but Ms. Rhodes keeps plugging >along on the new record. from what I've heard, it's way cool. She's still >writing, but we've already got 4 or 5 on tape and waitng for vocals. >Looking at early summer for the album paired with lots of live dates. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Could it be??? Or is this another cruel teaser??? >Initially we're thinking of a Border's tour. Perhaps a trio, perhaps solo and >then some evening shows in the towns she's in. We're actually setting that up >now. We'll post a list as it gets closer. YES!!! *How* long have we been saying that Happy just needs to get out there with an acoustic guitar and minimal accompaniment and play small places and show her face to get her name known farther and wider?!? (Well, maybe ecto as a whole hasn't, but I know a bunch of 'philes who have. :) I mean, if Ani DiFranco didn't spend her life on the road, nobody would know who the hell she was, either. I'm not saying Happy needs to move into a van or anything, but she really needs to do some shows outside of Philadelphia. I know for a fact that she could fill The Buttonwood Tree in Middletown with people who have been introduced to her music on WPKN alone, never mind the ectophiles in the area... I really, *really* hope this Border's tour happens. It could very well be the best career move she's made since putting _Warpaint_ out on CD. >There are plans for Harvey and Carl and Happy to do a remix version of her >new album for the fall/winter of 1996. Should be interesting. Y'know, when I read in the new Rhodeways (which has been out for the past couple of weeks -- haven't seen it mentioned here, but it's another great effort from Sharon et al.) that Happy was getting heavily into the whole techno-ambient thing I was worried, but the news that a small acoustic tour thingie is in the works made me feel better. Sherlyn posted: >Haven't seen this album mentioned before, so I just wanted to put a plug >in for the latest Cheryl Wheeler album, "Mrs Pinocchi's Guitar". The last >time I liked an album this much on the strength of first listen (which was >enough to make me listen to it on repeat many times more :) was Susan >Werner's "Last of the Good Straight Girls". Cheryl Wheeler is one of those people I feel i *should* like, but I don't really get turned on by any of her music. To be fair I haven't seen her live, and apparently you have to do that to really "get" her (I guess you're the exception there, piquet :). I'll have to do that sometime, and see what happens then. >Also, there's a guy with an absolutely *gorgeous* voice singing on a few >songs - Jonathan Edwards, does anyone know anything about him? Oh, and >Jonatha Brooke pops up lovely in a few places too. He's one of the New York City folk mafia. (Isn't he married to another NYC folkie -- Lucy Kaplansky? Or am I hallucinating again?) Haven't heard too much of his music, though. Sue passed along: >I heard that Tori was in tears during her Saturday Night Live rehearsal >because she was so upset about the Rolling Stone review of BFP. Apparently >she is tremendously down in the dumps about the beating the album has been >taking in the press at the hands of a few ignorant music critics. How >awful! Bizarre. I thought Tori would be *way* beyond that by now, especially after what she went through back in the YKTR days. Were her planets out of alignment that night, or something? It's a bad sign when an artist can't take a few bad reviews written by people who obviously don't have an ounce of intelligence. _Under The Pink_ certainly got its share of slams, as well - -- and probably by the same people, come to think of it. Kinda makes me worry about her, y'know? >Since BFP is debuting at #2 on next week's Billboard album chart, >I hope she is confident that her *fans* still love her, and that's all >that matters. Wow. I wonder if it's going to immediately drop right off the chart the next week? I mean, all of her fans ran right out and bought the album the minute it came out, but has anybody picked it up since then? >Oh boy, are we going to start speaking Japanese on ecto now? Rekordo wa >ikura desu ka? Ima nanji desu ka? :) "I think I'm speaking Japanese I think I'm speaking Japanese I really think so" :) :) :) Uncle Bob ruminated: > Having reached the not quite mystical age of forty-nine, I felt >wont to send ecto a little message. As an elder statesman on this >list, I wish once again to thank everyone here for making ecto such a >fuzzy blue wonder. Still flame retardant after all these years; >who'da thunk it? Bless you all. Happy belated, Bob! Glad it was a good one. Amazing, the flame-retardance around here, isn't it? > I am reminded of a scen in Waiting for Godot in which Vladimir >and Estragon, bored from waiting, begin to attack each other with >words. They take turns calling each other names, and the scene >builds up until one of them hurls the ultimate insult at the other: >"Critic!" and the game is over. Hey -- that perfectly describes love-hounds in the endless chasms of time in between Kate albums (and especially now). Maybe I should post "CRITIC!" over there and see what happens. ;> Stuart reported: >I went to the Out Magazine/Atlantic Records listening party for >_Boys for Pele_ this evening. Rumor had it Tori would definitely be at >the Atlanta party, so I went. Well, in fact, she *was* going to be at >the Atlanta party, but thanks to the freezing weather and Hartsfield >airport closing, she never made it out of Washington, D.C. :-( :-( :-( :( >The Atlantic Records reps. were very apologetic, but that didn't really >make up for the lack of Tori. We did get to watch Tori videos (including >"Pretty Good Year" and "Past the Mission," which I had never seen) She made a video for "Pretty Good Year"?!?!? What's it like? irvin stated: > i will probably get flamed for this. Oh come on, irvin, this is ecto! Be real. :) You're as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. Just because I vehemently disagree with you and think you're missing the point entirely doesn't mean I'm going to toast you for it. :> So, in the next half hour can anybody confirm or deny that Z-100 in New York still carries Modern Rock Live? 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