From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #365 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 29 January 1996 Volume 02 : Number 365 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xenu's Sister" Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:30:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Melanie On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Paul Cohen wrote: > >Anybody remember Melanie, the singer of Candles in the rain, Brand New > >Key, and Ring the living Bell etc.? I heard that she put out a new > >album a few years ago. Has anyone out there heard it? > > Yup. That'd be "Freedom Knows My Name" from 1993. A pleasant album, > nothing earthshattering, but kinda nice to hear her voice again after a 10 > year absence. Hubby Peter Schekeryk once again produces and her > now-teenaged kids are on it. > She's still a hippie. I hate to do this, but I have to say it. She is NOT a hippie. She's a scientologist. By definition, scientolgists and hippies have no common values, except maybe denial in the real world. I can't even begin to express how sick to my stomach I was when I found out that Melanie was a scientologist. I was literally physically ill, because I used to be a huge Melanie fan. I probably have over 20 LPs by her. What a shock :-( Scientology is an evil, criminal cult, bottom line. The cult's management thinks nothing of crushing critics, most especially ex-members who dare to speak out, under their heel like a bug. The horror stories are legion, and well-documented. They're waging a war against the net at this moment, because the free speech available on the net scares them silly. John Travolta quoted L. Ron Hubbard when he won his Golden Globe last week. A classic case of denial comes when people such as Travolta and Cruise and Melanie and all the other celebrity scienos forget such classic LRH quotes such as "The only way to control people is to lie to them" "There is no Christ" (but if there was,) "Christ was a lover of young men and boys" (LRH was a major homophobe and scientology claims to "cure" homosexuality) "Make money, make more money" "The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harrassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." or my favorite definition written by LRH: "Enemy: SP order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to, or destroyed." ("SP" stand for "Supressive Person" - in other words, anyone who is against Scientology). Nice guy, huh? Melanie's "spiritual" leader, he is. That's it...I just had to do a little rant on comparing Melanie to a hippie...she may have been one once, but it's been "audited" out of her by now. For more info, I've got a page of links at: http://miso.wwa.com/~vickie/cos/cos.html Vickie ------------------------------ From: jessica Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:55:16 -0800 Subject: melanie and church of scientology *sigh* I had no idea she was into that, i had a few of melanie's older songs on a tape from when i was younger that i have very fond memories of. I only started learning about the church of scientology a few months ago, and i've been literally telling everyone I know in person what I have learned. I couldn't help myself at first, I was so horrified! I get especially upset when i hear about celebrities being scientologists.. these people are role models for a lot of people! that really scares me. i really wish john travolta were not a scientologist. I want to like him! if there's anyone on ecto who hasn't learned what the church of scientology is all about, I can't encourage you more to do so now. - --- On a lighter note, thanks to everyone who responded about "trigger happy jack". I picked up the Poe album today and I like it a lot. :) --jessica ------------------------------ From: chocolate covered damond Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:10:03 -0800 Subject: the keep and the mortal city i just borrowed _the keep_ from ariane (hi ariane!) and i honestly think that if happy were to release nothing but compilation albums from this point forwards, i would still eat up everything she put out and beg for more. wow! i love it! the opening remake of "temporary and eternal" had me glued in my seat and i stayed glued for pretty much the whole thing. actually that was one of the ones i was most impressed with - the original version of tae i never really noticed - i mean, i liked it but it didn't reach out and grab me and say "hey, listen to me" - whereas this one did. and she does that wonderful thing with her voice that makes my spine tingle. the whole thing is just beautiful. i mean, i'd have thought that by the third remake of "save our souls" i'd've been pretty sick of it, but ... no, definitely not! wow. though i do question her decision to do a christmas song. it sort of defiles her voice for me. but ah well. that's the only gripe :) also got to hear a bit of dar williams' new album _this/the mortal city_ (i forget if it was an article or a demonstrative... anyway), which sounds excellent! although "when i was a boy" was an immediate all-time favourite song the very first time i heard it, the rest of _the honesty room_ was a bit "slide-offy" for me (as some may recall from my top N list). this new album sounds very good all the way through. i mean, who can argue with digeridu (sp?) music? eh? one of the songs had those awful twangy country-sounding instruments in it, but aside from that... well, i want it :) some lovely witty songs with very long names i can't remember right now, too. *and* we saw la cite des enfants perdus, which i cannot recommend enough. this is a *brilliantly* warped film, and one which i want to see again tomorrow! so i can pick up on all the little bits i probably missed the first time around! *sigh* unfortunately i have some heavy researching to do tomorrow for a paper in one of my linguistics courses, so it is not to be.. :P feeling quite contented, damon _/\_ damon_harper@mindlink.bc.ca __\ /__ "Life is pain, Highness. Vancouver, BC, Canada \ / Anyone who says differently http://www.dfw.net... |/||\| is selling something." .../~soulmate/damon/paukarut.html - from The Princess Bride ------------------------------ From: petite piquet Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:41:15 +1100 (EST) Subject: Wendy MaHarry info? Hi folkses, Just wondering if anyone could give me any information on Wendy MaHarry? I picked up her self-titled album today at a closing-down-all-stock-halfprice sale, and rully like it. Stylistically she resembles Tori Amos a lot (or perhaps the other way around :), and her voice reminds me of Chrissie Hynde. Nice album. I also picked up Edie Brickell's "Piqture Purrfect Morning" ("Picture Perfect Morning" to anyone not as in love with my cat as I am *grin*), Mae Moore's "Oceanview Motel", John Gorka's "Temporary Road" and a few singles... Sara Craig, Aimee Mann, and Milla. Yay! I love sales... pity all the Christine Lavin stuff was gone when I'd gotten there, since this is the only place I'd ever seen any of her music for sale. Oh well. :) Okay okay okay. :) sherlyn =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= piquet the cat - piquet@geko.net.au; aka Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@geko.net.au "God looks like a guidance counsellor, God's got that smile. God says, 'How could this be? That's really odd. I guess I'll have to check my records - silly me, you know, I'm only God!' " - Dar Williams, "Alleliua" ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 20:39:11 EST Subject: Re: toribabble (longer than you'd probably like :) Meredith said: >Anthony Horan posted from down under (where it takes a REALLY long time to >download a .gif, I'll have you know): Sorry about that - the system my web page is on has only a 28Kbaud link to the world, and it can get pretty slow in peak times, as can the entire Australia-US link. Be thankful I didn't put the original 1Mb TIFF scan up there. :-) (The original Under The Pink cover photo) >>There was one, and I have both a full-size colour poster of it (courtesy >>Warner Australia being a little too keen to print posters before art was >>approved!) and an Atlantic release info sheet featuring the cover, which came >>via a helpful Ectophile who shall remain anonymous lest I get into trouble. >>:-) > >So... what does it look like?!? It's a head-and-shoulders picture from the same photo sessions, Tori looking directly to camera with a hint of a smile on her face. I just discovered I have three of these posters, and if I'd known the cover was to be changed at the time, I'd have grabbed a dozen more. :-) As far as I know, the stock of leftover posters were thrown out when the album was released. - - Anthony - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au http://daemon.apana.org.au/~anthony/ Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: the icon of coherence Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:43:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Wendy MaHarry info? petite piquet sez: >Just wondering if anyone could give me any information on Wendy MaHarry? well, you've found her first album. there has only been one more, titled _fountain of youth_, which is excellent light pop, a little bit more upbeat than the first. woj ------------------------------ From: the icon of coherence Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:05:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Wendy MaHarry info? when i wrote that last post, it seemed bare, but i couldn't think of anything else to write. i've since listened to wendy's first album, so after refreshing my memory, i'd thought i'd ramble about here for a bitsy. her first record came out in 1990 (just before i graduated from college and lost the real inside edge on new records: a music directorship at a college radio station). musically, it is similar to jill sobule's first record: lush, soft pop music. sheryln mentioned a similarity to tori amos, but i don't really see that. however, wendy's singing voice on that record is reminiscent of chrissie hynde, of all people. granted, it's a tamer chrissie, but the phrasing is very similar. very odd. i had never noticed that before. this album is relaxed, reflective, but never really engrossed me, though it got my attention. on the other hand, _fountain of youth_ (released a year later) was a revelation. it's not unlike the first record, but it's much more immediately likeable. i mentioned that it was more upbeat. it's also very fun and catchy. it's still soft pop, but there are more acoustic guitars and hooky melodies. surprisingly, this album has stood the test of time. a lot of records like it seem to fade after a while, but it's still good and fun. woj ------------------------------ From: MATH TRIED ERR Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:25:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: various Hi! I am NOT going to talk about Tori in this post, so you're all safe! :) Had an enjoyable evening last night. Mike Curry came down this way through the driving rain (ick), then we picked up Mitch Pravatiner at the airport (delayed, but safe) and headed down to Hightstown to see the Nields, who put on a great show, as usual. Mitch was so taken with them, he bought both their CDs. (Come to think of it, getting Mitch to see any type of live musical performance is somehwat of a feat, is it not? :) Katryna relayed the good news that it's possible the release date of their new album, _Gotta Get Over Greta_ will be pushed up to February 20, so keep your eyes open! They played quite a few songs from it last night, and it's going to blow _Bob On The Ceiling_ away, methinks. I can't wait. Nerissa recognized me again. This is starting to get scary. "Where do you LIVE? We see you EVERYWHERE!!!" ;> They had a "wish list" for future acts people would like to see, so I wrote in Happy's name. Dunno if anything could ever come of it, since they seem to be pretty strictly a folk outfit, but the fact that they booked the Nields is a good sign. While we were down there we discovered they still had tickets left for Dar Williams and Richard Shindell in the same theater this evening, so in a few minutes woj and I are making another trek down the turnpike. I'm so excited to finally see Dar do a full set! In fact, we'll have to leave in a few, so I'd best get going on the matters at hand: sage sloganed: >Ecto: Answering your questions before you even ask them. That's *perfect*. If we ever get another ecto shirt made (which I still think we should do), that should be on the back this time. :> Chad noted: >On a sad note, one of my favorite comic book series will be making it's final >appearance on the racks in the next few weeks. Goodbye Sandman. I'm sure Neil >will resurrect you someday, much to my delight. See y'all later! Eeeek!!! I'm SO behind on Sandman, it's disgusting. Anybody want to help me catch up? I don't so much care to own the issues as just to read them -- I think the last one I read was the one where Death led Dream away. Then my comics shop lost their DC distributor, and I got all messed up. Damn. Cheri inquired: >Those of you with car cd players, how >do you like them? And Robert replied: > Get a cassette player. Well, I think whatever you get depends on your current music collection and the type of driving you'll be doing. For example, if you have a medium commute (30 minutes to an hour), a tape deck would be good, because then you can listen to whatever you taped off the radio last night (World Cafe, Echoes, etc.). :) And you can always get an adapter so your portable CD player will play in the car. However, if you're like me and have the commute from hell (100 miles each way), DEFINITELY get a CD player. The sound quality is better, and those 3 hours per day will probably be the only time you have to listen to music, anyway. I will unequivocally recommend, however, that no matter what you get, you get some sort of theft protection, either in the form of a removable console or detachable face. I have a detachable-face CD player, and the little face- case fits perfectly in my pocket. I have a CaseLogic 24-CD flip-case that I toss in my bag, so my discs stay with me and I don't have to worry about them getting stolen out of my car. In my opinion, car stereos that don't have some sort of detachable theft protection should be illegal. It's just stupid not to have one. Uncle Bob reported: > Got one of those Phone Calls Of Destiny tonight. My son's >guitar teacher, Joe Dalton, just asked me to join his band in the >bass slot. That's wonderful!!! What's the name of the band? What are the CDs he's put out, and where can interested ectophiles find them? We need details! :) damon posted: >also got to hear a bit of dar williams' new album _this/the mortal city_ (i >forget if it was an article or a demonstrative... It's neither -- the album is just called _Mortal City_. :) Anthony Horan apologized: >Sorry about that - the system my web page is on has only a 28Kbaud link to >the world, and it can get pretty slow in peak times, as can the entire >Australia-US link. Be thankful I didn't put the original 1Mb TIFF scan up >there. :-) Yeepers. >It's a head-and-shoulders picture from the same photo sessions, Tori looking >directly to camera with a hint of a smile on her face. Hmmm... this sounds like something I've seen before. Is she surrounded by glassware? Like the Cornflake Girl single photo? (If so, then it sounds a lot like something we have on our wall. :) (Whoops, I talked about Tori... sorry!!!) Gotta go... +===========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/meth/| +===========================================================================+ | "well you'll never gain weight from a donut hole" - Tori Amos | +===========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: Steven Cole Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:37:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] subscribe ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu Steven Cole psu01293@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 19:15:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re Ofra Haza Hello, I saw a cd called "Yeminite(something)" that looked like a very early OH. Is anyone famliar w/ it? Is it likely to be *very* ethnic, with no extra production or like Desert Wind which was over-produced? I have Kyria(sp) produced by Don Was and like it. KrW "Who was that masked man?" "That no mask, that birthmark!" ------------------------------ From: "Deep Space" Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:57:31 +0000 Subject: Re: jon and vangelis (a very late reply to a reply) Damon asks: > does anyone have any suggestions as to > what constitutes his [Vangelis] best solo work? From what I know, "Earth" is very good. Ethereal, moody, and fun in an ambient sort of way. Robert of Loxley ------------------------------ From: "Deep Space" Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:57:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Accessible? Questions from the ether: > 1) What makes an album accessible? I'd start with: You don't have to think about it or concentrate on it. It just reaches you right away. > > 2) Who would you name as an inaccessible musical artist? Any artist who has a vision that does not line up with your own, perhaps. Diamanda Galas, for some, might be termed inaccesible. Artists who use dissonance would be inaccessible to those who expect music to be "pretty". Someone who loves Lawrence Welk would have a rough time with NIN. Accesibility is as much a factor of the listener as the artist, yet many artists position themselves away from the masses in order to offer a unique perspective. Sometimes it takes a few listens to "get" an artist, so there are even varying degrees of accesibility. Nothing is easy! The Old Philosopher ... "Hiya Bunky!" > > Just me, > the curious one > -Sage > ____________________________________________________________________ > Sage, Todd and the eight feline cohorts: sagetodd@postoffice.ptd.net > Not to mention: http://www.dfw.net/~soulmate/ > where you can fall in and spend hours. Literally. > ------------------------------ From: mp@moonmac.com (Michael Pearce) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 18:24:54 -0800 Subject: McKinley home page Took me most of the weekend, but now there is a McKinley home page. Included are the lyrics to all the songs on the CD, pictures of the covers of the current one and the earlier EP, and three AIFF samples (8-bit, 11K) of the songs. Stop by and tell me what you think! More will be added over the next several days. It's at http://www.teleport.com/~mklprc/McKinley/McKinley.shtml. |^^^^^^^^(fnord) Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard.^^^^^^^^| | | | "Give them a light and | http://www.moonmac.com/~mklprc/ | | they'll follow it anywhere!" | mp@moonmac.com | | --Firesign Theatre | michael_pearce@pmug.org | | | \___No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message.___/ ------------------------------ From: ariana@nycmetro.com Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:39:32 -0500 Subject: Tori Amos: professional widow I am very curious on who this song could be based on. Could it be related to Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love? ------------------------------ From: petite piquet Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:09:05 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: Wendy MaHarry info? On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, the icon of coherence wrote: > her first record came out in 1990 (just before i graduated from college > and lost the real inside edge on new records: a music directorship at a > college radio station). musically, it is similar to jill sobule's first > record: lush, soft pop music. sheryln mentioned a similarity to tori > amos, but i don't really see that. however, wendy's singing voice on > that record is reminiscent of chrissie hynde, of all people. granted, > it's a tamer chrissie, but the phrasing is very similar. very odd. i > had never noticed that before. this album is relaxed, reflective, but > never really engrossed me, though it got my attention. I liked it a lot, although I don't know if I'd ever sit down and do nothing but listen to it, like I would with, say, Dar Williams or the Indigo Girls... The similiarity to Tori really jumped out at me actually. It has more to do with the style of the music than anything else - a few of her songs (can't remember any titles, I only listened to the album once after all :) reminded me a lot of songs on "Little Earthquakes" - they started out with tinkly piano bits before the rest of the song crashes in... but then again, maybe it's just me. :) > on the other hand, _fountain of youth_ (released a year later) was a > revelation. it's not unlike the first record, but it's much more > immediately likeable. i mentioned that it was more upbeat. it's also > very fun and catchy. it's still soft pop, but there are more acoustic > guitars and hooky melodies. surprisingly, this album has stood the > test of time. a lot of records like it seem to fade after a while, > but it's still good and fun. It sounds cool... I'll have to see if I can find it. Happy happy all, :) sherlyn =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= piquet the cat - piquet@geko.net.au; aka Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@geko.net.au "God looks like a guidance counsellor, God's got that smile. God says, 'How could this be? That's really odd. I guess I'll have to check my records - silly me, you know, I'm only God!' " - Dar Williams, "Alleliua" ------------------------------ From: "Joanna M. Phillips" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:28:39 -0500 Subject: rats! :) At 09:37 PM 1/26/96 -0800, Jerene wrote: (snip) >(Rats sleep with their eyes open. Would it have been >conceptually different if she had used a rat and the rat appeared to be >looking up at her?) I could check with the people on the rat listserv to be sure...but every time I have gone to visit the ratties and mice in the pet shop (I have allergies, otherwise I would *have* some ratties of my own), the ones that are asleep have their eyes closed (they are so cute!!). :) - -jo- aka country mousie - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna M. Phillips | "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty fleur@one.net | being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What fleur@genie.com | do you want--an adorable pancreas?"--Jean Kerr ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:39:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Tori Amos: professional widow Hello, On Sun, 28 Jan 1996 ariana@nycmetro.com wrote: > I am very curious on who this song could be based on. Could it be > related to Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love? > Did you see Neal Copperman's post of Jan 22 Monday? He quotes from interview w/ TA in The Sun: > "Professional Widow" describes "the Lady Macbeth archetype" (perhaps >clumsily, tori admits) KrW It was the least I could do! And never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:51:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Re Ofra Haza On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Kerry White wrote: > Hello, > I saw a cd called "Yeminite(something)" that looked like a very early OH. It's not that early, but is the oldest readily available recording of hers. (The stuff before that is rumoured to be very dance-poppy, though I haven't heard it.) It's also called 50 Gates of Wisdom, or something like that, depending on which version you find. In late October I wrote a pretty detailed account of OH, which I foolishly didn't save. My saved mail goes back to November :( You can look for that in the archives (or maybe Neile saved it). Here's a quick summary, in reverse chronological order (but I'm not going to look up the dates). Kirya - Don Was gives his back to roots treatment, which I loved. A return to form after the disappointing Desert Winds - which I also thought was overproduced and mostly worthless. Shaday - an odd mix of eurotrash dance pop and electrified versions of songs given a more traditional treatment on Yemenite Songs. Heading towards the wasteland of Desert Winds, but saving itself half the time. Yemenite Songs - All traditional, all sung in Hebrew, with stunning percussion throughout. My favorite of the lot. Highly recommended if rhythm is your thing and foreign languages don't turn you off. Joe Zitt disagreed and particularly liked Desert Winds (his vote for second disc to get, Kirya is mine), but we were both in agreement that YS was the bestest of the lot. Neal ------------------------------ From: David Dixon Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 23:37:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Chrissie Hynde's Advice to Chick Rockers Found this in an entertaining book, _The New Book of Rock Lists_, by Dave Marsh and James Bernard. Thought you'd all enjoy Ms. Hynde's words of wisdom... Chrissie Hynde's Advice to Chick Rockers - ---------------------------------------- 1. Don't moan about being a chick, refer to feminism or complain about sexist discrimination. We've all been thrown down stairs and fucked about, but no one wants to hear a whining female. Write a loosely disguised song about it instead and clean up ($). 2. Never pretend you know more than you do. If you don't know chord names, refer to the dots. Don't go near the desk unless you plan on becoming an engineer. 3. Make the other band members look and sound good. Bring out the best in them; that's your job. Oh, and you better sound good, too. 4. Do not insist on working with "females"; that's just more b.s. Get the best man for the job. If it happens to be a woman, great-- you'll have someone to go to department stores on tour with instead of making one of the road crew go with you. 5. Try not to have a sexual relationship with the band. It always ends in tears. 6. Don't think that sticking your boobs out and trying to look fuckable will help. Remember you're in a rock and roll band. It's not "fuck me," it's "fuck you!" 7. Don't try to compete with the guys; it won't impress anybody. Remember, one of the reasons they like you is because you don't offer yet more competition to the already existing male egos. 8. If you sing, don't "belt" or "screech." No one wants to hear that shit, it sounds "hysterical." 9. Shave your legs, for chrissakes! 10. Don't take advice from people like me. Do your own thing always. - -- from a 1994 Sire Records press release Discuss.... D^2 ------------------------------ From: gzverev@RPC.glas.apc.org (Russian Privatization Center) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:29:05 Subject: Re: Javanese Muslim Pop Singers > Anyway, I unfortunately don't remember the name of the band (as it is a > foreign sounding name and I couldn't even begin to imagine how to spell it > when they said it), but I was wondering if anyone hear knows who they might > be. I guess they're quite popular in Indonesia. > >Jeff Hanson This is the band called Nasida Ria. There are 9 pretty girls playing on different instruments. 5 of them are singers sing on different songs. They have only one album released in Europe called "Kaedilan" (1992) Printed on Piran:ha label and distributed by EFA in Germany. Hope that helps. Gleb ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 20:55:52 EST Subject: Re: Question about a band Esther wrote: >(Hi Anthony! It's me! the bouncy girl from Karl's car the night of the >RDT party! :) ) Darn, I've been sleepwalking internationally again. :-) - - Anthony (err... one of the Australian ones, that is :) - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au http://daemon.apana.org.au/~anthony/ Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 20:59:07 EST Subject: Re: various Meredith quoted me talking about the original Tori UTP cover photo... >>It's a head-and-shoulders picture from the same photo sessions, Tori looking >>directly to camera with a hint of a smile on her face. > >Hmmm... this sounds like something I've seen before. Is she surrounded by >glassware? Like the Cornflake Girl single photo? (If so, then it sounds a >lot like something we have on our wall. :) No, it's a closer shot thatn that, and below her shoulders she's at a slight angle (the photo is cropped just above her breasts, and she's wearing the same cheeseclothy thing as in the other photos.) Darnit, I'm going to have to figure out a way to get this scanned. Hmmm, I wonder if Warner have a transparency of it around... I'll ask. - - Anthony - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au http://daemon.apana.org.au/~anthony/ Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Matt Bittner" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:34:09 -0600 Subject: Radio station The "new" radio station just keeps getting better and better. Currently, Heather Nova's on. _Walk This World_. Great song. Earlier, I heard No Doubt. What do other's think of this band? However, the best was this morning. Jewel was on with the "re-done" _You Were Meant for Me_. For me, that just clinched this station as the one to listen to while in Omaha. I've been requesting Happy, to no avail. I've been talking to one of the "jocks", though, and I plan on giving her a tape of Happy's stuff. Hope she likes it enough to get some discs and play them on the station. But then again, why shouldn't she? ;-) Matt - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber, semi-new dad, meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are my responsibility only. "You cannot make anything foolproof, because the fools are so ingenious." - Christian Walters - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ From: David Dixon Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:01:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Radio station On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Matt Bittner wrote: > However, the best was this morning. Jewel was on with the "re-done" > _You Were Meant for Me_. For me, that just clinched this station as > the one to listen to while in Omaha. Which reminds me... on Friday night, I saw the very good San Diego band The Rugburns here in Berkeley, and the lead singer performed a song he had co-written with Jewel (I think it was "You Were Meant For Me"). If you like your alterna-rock mixed with just a little bit of country/folk, definitely give this band a look-see when they come through your town. OH, the opening act, Baby Snufkin was good too. Sort of free-form improv meets Oingo Boingo. Their trumpet/trombone player is very silly. :) D^2 ------------------------------ From: "Laurel Krahn" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:23:02 +0000 Subject: this n that (neil/tori/etc) Hi all.... I just slogged through 150 messages or so (all nice, I assure you). I'd been avoiding reading them until I got Tori's BOYS FOR PELE. Judging by the main topic of conversation, I was right to do so! :-) I like the album. Still absorbing it, getting used to it. More on that later. Someone referred to Neil Gaiman's Mr Punch as an incomplete story, which made me boggle a bit, as it seems pretty clear to me. Perhaps using "incomplete" in a different way? Neil's stories tend to leave things open in areas, yes, but I don't think of them as "incomplete." It is sad to see Sandman come to an end. Issue 74 is on the stands now, a lovely tale with lovely art by Jon J. Muth. Neil noted on GEnie that the ads in the issue are placed so you can remove the ad pages and read the book as it was intended to be (sans annoying advertisements). Issue 75 will be the last Sandman. But DC plans a comic series called THE DREAMING which will have writers-other-than-Neil working with characters from The Dreaming. And there are plans for miniseries... the next one will be another Death miniseries, if I'm not mistaken. So it's not as if Neil is leaving The Dreaming completely. (He is currently at work on a tv series for the BBC called NEVERWHERE. And he signed a three book deal with Avon for a million dollars or so. Busy guy). I hold a certain fondness for Sandman 73, which was set at the Minnesota Renaissance festival and had Michael Zulli artwork and cameo appearances by the Flash Girls and Steven Brust. I guess Neil plans to make Tori a tree in a future comic, probably the collaboration with Charles Vess. Thus the Neil bit on BOYS FOR PELE. Am I missing anything on really-deep-thoughts? I thought of resubbing for the Boys for Pele talk, but I suspect it's all a bit out of control. I know a few folks from signal-to-noise (the Flash Girls mailing list) are on the list now, which could prove interesting (I'm thinking of miss sunshine, mostly). Any comments on the DEAD MAN WALKING soundtrack? It sounds like a real gem, with Lyle Lovett, Suzanne Vega, Tom Waits, Michelle Shocked, and others adding all-new tracks written after seeing the movie... Oh! If anyone sees Richard Shindell in concert, I'd love to hear about it. I know he was doing a show with Dar that I think meth mentioned she might be attending. I fell in love with the Shindell song "Are You Happy Now?" when I first heard it on the WHEN OCTOBER GOES album, compiled by Christine Lavin (in the same vein as ON A WINTER'S NIGHT, but few seem to recall the October one). Since then, I've found one Richard Shindell album as well as a promo EP that has a few live versions of his songs. I adore his voice and really like much of his songwriting. Still hope to find his first album one of these days.... (I have BLUE DIVIDE, his second I think). I just got the latset Patty Larkin album and think her Mary Magdelene song would go perfectly with a certain Tori song, as well as Shindell's song "The Ballad of Mary Magdelene"... The latter is an absolutely gorgeous song, that starts out: "My name is Mary Magdalene I come from Palestine Please excuse these rags I'm in But I've fallen on hard times Long ago I had my work When I was in my prime But I gave it up, and all for love It was his career or mine." with the chorus: "Jesus loved me, this I know But why on earth did I ever let him go? He was always faithful, he was always kind But he walked off with this heart of mine." Lucy Kaplansky sings backup on a few of Shindell's songs, and I think they end up playing shows together sometimes. She has a cool album out called THE TIDE, on Red House Records, and is probably best known for doing backup vocals for Suzanne Vega and Shawn Colvin. Shawn produced Kaplansky's album. See, there are ecto ties! ;-p I've rambled enough... Best, ........................................................ Laurel (lakrahn@sodak.net / lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/lakrahn/ ------------------------------ From: "Laurel Krahn" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:33:59 +0000 Subject: Sound & Spirit (new radio show) Ellen Kushner (a fine writer and musician. She's won awards for her fantasy novels. She's performed with June Tabor. To give you some idea... She also hosts radio shows, and worked on the Neil Gaiman CD and other projects)... er... where was I? Oh. Ellen posted this press release to her topic on GEnie. She's working on a new radio show for Public Radio International that sounds way interesting and certainly seems like something ectophiles might like. Here's the press release: - ---- PUBLIC RADIO INTERNATIONAL (PRI) ANNOUNCES DEBUT OF NEW NATIONAL CULTURAL PROGRAM SOUND & SPIRIT a spiritual journey in words and music Minneapolis, November, 1995 -- Public Radio International and production partner WGBH Radio Boston are pleased to announce that production has begun for Sound & Spirit, a new one-hour weekly radio program that will premiere on PRI stations nationwide in April, 1996. Each week, host Ellen Kushner will blend music from world and classical music traditions with the thoughts, insights and wisdom of the world's cultures. Every show is organized around a single topic, some aspect of the human experience: joy, grief, love . . . things we all have in common, which often find their most profound & moving expression through music. Programs for the opening season include--Sacred Spaces; Shaker Gifts; Healing Mind, Body and Spirit; Arvo P rt: A Quiet Rapture; The Road To Santiago; Motherhood; Weddings; The Joy Of Grieving andThe Sufi Spirit--and offer a wide range of music including selections by Hildegard von Bingen, Claudio Monteverdi, and Igor Stravinsky, as well as Nigerian drummer Babtunde Olatunji, Native American flute player R. Carlos Nakai, Gospel singer Marion Williams, Celtic folksinger Loreena McKennitt and the Shirim Klezmer Orchestra. This innovative new program provides a rich, sensual and spirited hour of music and words from around the world and through the ages, with a weekly theme reflecting the range of human experience in the quest for meaning. An acclaimed writer and radio host, Kushner brings her narrative powers to this extraordinary project, and invites guests--composers, theologians, folklorists, artists and other commentators--to join her in finding the connections between art and life. Listeners too are invited to join in, listening to the radio broadcast and responding to the program via the series' homepage on the world wide web. "Sound & Spirit is an unprecedented opportunity for public radio to present cross-cultural, classical, even contemporary music in the context of diverse systems of belief. I hope that, for listeners, Sound & Spirit, with its contemplative, intimate content, will provide a thoughtful and pleasing moment of reflection in a busy week." Ellen Kushner - ------ Ellen went on to say (on GEnie): "Will _you_ get to hear 'Sound & Spirit'? I wish I knew. Any public radio station that's signed up with PRI (they also distribute Marketplace, BBC World Service, Prairie Home Companion etc.) has the option of carrying the show at any time/day. (WGBH Boston 89.7fm has it scheduled for Sundays at noon.) Beginning in Feb., stations will be deciding whether or not to pick up S&S. (Here comes the pitch:) AND YOU CAN HELP! Sometime in early Feb., you might contact your local public radio station and ask the program director if s/he's heard about this cool new show with EK, and will they be carrying it in April? The toughest part of getting a new show on the air on public radio is getting the PD's to even notice that it exists, and then audition a demo. Our PRI marketing person is doing her best to call their attention to it, but what's one of her compared to many of you?" - --- So there you have it. I have woefully bad luck with getting NPR or PRI shows here in Sioux Falls, but it sounds like it'll be a spiff show and I hope some of you get to hear it. It is worth pestering radio stations to pick up the NPR and PRI shows that you want to hear. Best, ........................................................ Laurel (lakrahn@sodak.net / lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/lakrahn/ ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:57:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Late-night TV musical guests As usual: all of this + more is available at www.interbridge.com. LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, CBS Mo 1/29 Nanci Griffith We 1/31 D'Angelo Th 2/1 Dwight Yoakam Fr 2/9 The Ramones THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO, NBC Mo 1/29 Patty Loveless We 1/31 Seal Th 2/1 Rod Stewart Fr 2/2 All 4 One Mo 2/5 Bruce Hornsby Th 2/8 *****Tori Amos***** LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, NBC Tu 1/30 No Doubt Mo 2/5 The Amps (repeat of 12/13/95) Fr 2/9 Blur - --Sue Trowbridge trow@access.digex.net +++ trow@charm.net http://www.access.digex.net/~trow/ Fave album du jour: Everclear, SPARKLE AND FADE ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #365 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu