From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #346 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 15 January 1996 Volume 02 : Number 346 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry White Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 19:48:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: TORI on SNL next week! Hello, On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, Michael Curry wrote: > > Well, I sat through that horror of a show too, and I have a question. > Years ago when I still watched SNL the musical guest usually did two > songs, one about a third of the way in and then one near the end. Last > night Joan only did one song (about a third of the way in). Is that the > new format now, or was it a fluke? > Is there *anyone* on this list that watches SNL regularly? KrW It was the least I could do! And never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: basil@naxs.com (Brad Hutchinson) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 21:25:40 -0500 Subject: Newsgroups Our server just added newsgroups--we ask for the ones we want them to "carry" (is that the word?) I asked for Gaffa and rec.music.toriamos as well as pagemaker and other ones for programs. What are some ectoish news groups to ask for? Thanks brad Accuracy of observation is the equivalent of accuracy of thinking. - --Wallace Stevens brad hutchinson: bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us or Jill Sunderlin and brad basil@netaccess.naxs.com ------------------------------ From: VNozick@tribune.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 20:29:50 -0600 Subject: Re[2]: TORI on SNL next week! Kerry asked: > Is there *anyone* on this list that watches SNL regularly? Not me. SNL had this season to prove itself again, and so far it's failing. However, I highly recommend Mad TV. I don't get to see it every week, but what I've seen I like. Then again, SNL lost all credibility when it signed up Anthony Michael Hall, IMO. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ From: Martin N Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:18:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Returned mail: warning: cannot send message for 4 hours (fwd) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. 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Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old ----- Original message follows ----- - --HAA00807.821621293/gramercy.ios.com Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: enzo1 Received: (from enzo1@localhost) by gramercy.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA23203; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 02:39:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 02:39:26 -0500 (EST) From: Martin N To: Dan Stark Subject: Sickof this In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, I am starting to get annoyed. Twice I have "unsubscribed" from this list and got a majordomo message confiriming this, why do i CONTINUE to receive abundant mail from ecto! it's a great list but I cannot deal with all this mail. Please someone who knows about this list, how do i PERMANENTLY get off? Scott - --HAA00807.821621293/gramercy.ios.com-- ------------------------------ From: Paul Cohen Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:43:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Okay okay, here's mine >Don't worry, I won't. :-) I don't agree with the corporate puppet thing, >anyway. Everyone's got free will, and the ability to exercise it. Hence Al >Jourgenson's claims that the first Ministry album "With Sympathy" was forced >upon him by Arista are a little hard to swallow... Agreed. It was actually quite consistant with the independant 12"ers that preceded it. ____Paul Cohen______________King of Prussia, PA___ ____pmcohen@netaxs.com___http://atonce.com/pmc/___ ------------------------------ From: "Laurel Krahn" Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:12:27 +0000 Subject: Re: TORI on SNL next week! On 14 Jan 96 at 19:48, Kerry White wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, Michael Curry wrote: > > > > Well, I sat through that horror of a show too, and I have a > > question. > > Years ago when I still watched SNL the musical guest usually did > > two songs, one about a third of the way in and then one near the > > end. Last night Joan only did one song (about a third of the way > > in). Is that the new format now, or was it a fluke? > > > Is there *anyone* on this list that watches SNL regularly? I'd say some do. Or at least I do... call me a glutton for punishment, but I usually at least glance at it. I've missed the last several weeks, though, been busy doing other things. Don't miss it much, I must say. Though I think this season they're doing some new stuff, some of which is funnier than things have been in awhile. What I saw of last night's show was pretty weak (but I missed most of it). Usually musical guests perform twice. Sometimes three times. I've never heard of anyone only performing one song before. best, ........................................................ Laurel (lakrahn@sodak.net / lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/lakrahn/ ------------------------------ From: Paul Cohen Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 23:18:37 -0500 Subject: Re: The Return Of The Replies >...Such a shame that everything Sinead's done since then has really sucked. :( Allow me to voice disagreement with the illustrious Meth. "Universal Mother", while not quite another "Lion and the Cobra" was quite a good album. ____Paul Cohen______________King of Prussia, PA___ ____pmcohen@netaxs.com___http://atonce.com/pmc/___ ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 20:42:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Radka Toneff Yngve-- Radka Toneff will be in the Ectophiles Guide. I own a copy of her disc that Kjetil Homme traded me. (Kjetil, are you still on ecto??) Her work is jazz, but there will be several jazz artists in the Guide. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 23:07:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: TORI on SNL next week! Hello, On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, Laurel Krahn wrote: > > What I saw of last night's show was pretty weak (but I missed most of > it). > > Usually musical guests perform twice. Sometimes three times. I've > never heard of anyone only performing one song before. Ms Osborne looked just a tad 'lost' on stage during the end credit get-together, maybe there were technical problems that screwed up song #2. KrW "TV or not TV, that is the question. Whether it is nobler to suffer the lies of outrageous pitch-men, or to slit your throat with an electrocoated stainless steel blade"? WOI ------------------------------ From: Mike Matthews Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 00:15:06 -0500 Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Chris Sampson (chris@neuron.uchc.edu) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 SDCN Ross Alford Thu January 17 1957 Positive Nancy Whitney Mon January 19 1959 slippery when wet Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson Tue January 20 1970 Seanympf-Aquarius Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Ilka Heber Mon February 01 1965 Mermaid Bob Lovejoy Sun February 02 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 02 1963 slow children Timothy S. Devine Tue February 03 1970 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 04 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: damon harper Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 22:23:29 -0800 Subject: anyone know this song? hi there! a friend just came along with a mystery tape and a song he thought i had somewhere in my collection... it sounds hauntingly familiar (well, i've not heard it, but something about the style) and so now i'm curious too :) quite a nice song, according to my first impression. can anyone identify a song that starts out: how can i go home with nothing to say i know you're going to look at me that way and say "what did you do out there, what did you decide? you said you needed time and you had time" ? also contains the nifty couplet you are a china shop and i am a bull you are really good food and i am full which sounds familiar, but i might be thinking of another song thanks damon _/\_ Damon_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca __\ /__ "...please consider me as an Vancouver, BC, Canada \ / alternative to suicide?" |/||\| - Prince Humperdinck, http://www.dfw.net/~soulmate/damon/paukarut.html in The Princess Bride ------------------------------ From: ariana@nycmetro.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:01:38 -0500 Subject: ... I was recently talking to a friend who I introduced to some of Happy's music. She told me she made a mixed tape for a friend who goes to college in Arizona. She put the song "Play the Game" on it. Her friend called her and told her he loved the song. Some time later he bought "The Keep". So there is another Happy fan made just by a word of mouth/made a tape thing! :) ------------------------------ From: "she listens like her head's on fire.." Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 04:28:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: anyone know this song? Hello, >hi there! a friend just came along with a mystery tape and a song he >thought i had somewhere in my collection... it sounds hauntingly familiar >(well, i've not heard it, but something about the style) and so now i'm >curious too :) quite a nice song, according to my first impression. can >anyone identify a song that starts out: >how can i go home with nothing to say >>other stuff from song deleted... This song is called "You Had Time". Its by Ani Difranco and is off of her truly excellent cd Out Of Range. It's one of my favorite songs. Glad I could help... :-) - -Quenby ------------------------------ From: athol-brose Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:50:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: TORI on SNL next week! > Is there *anyone* on this list that watches SNL regularly? Is there anyone at ALL who watches SNL regularly? - -- r. n. dominick -- cinnamon@one.net -- http://w3.one.net/~cinnamon/ i breathe too much anyway; i can do that any day... (ani difranco) ------------------------------ From: ptv@rtp.scm-metals.com (Patrick Varker) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 08:36:07 -0500 Subject: UK Tori Finally got Tori's two UK singles this weekend.By far the best of the two is the limited edition one. There's a great song about "London Girl's", which is my favorite new Tori song yet. You should start seeing these in local stores any day now. Patrick ------------------------------ From: "jeffrey hanson" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 09:55:10 cdt Subject: My Scarlet Life I saw My Scarlet Life last Friday night at the Loring Bar here in Minneapolis. Having never heard them before, and only hearing a few songs of Big Hat once, I wasn't sure what to expect, but was fairly pleasantly impressed, although the sound in the bar was quite awful, and it was almost impossible to make out any of their lyrics. Plus there music is pretty complex, so it's really hard to make out what all is going on when you're in a bar full of talking people and a pretty muddy sound system. I talked with Preston a bit during one of their breaks and bought their CD. ItThe CD is great--I think it will really grow on me. I was a little disappointed when I first looked through it to see it didn't include lyrics. But then, this morning I noticed a little red thread sticking out the side, and noticed for the first time a little scroll tied with thread stuck on the left side under hte lip of the jewel box--lyric sheet! Pretty cool. Their music is so diverse it's hard to categorize. The band they remind me of most is Miranda Sex Garden--though they're not quite that dark --but the two female leads somewhat dissonant harmonizing reminds me of them. Definitely check them out if you have a chance--they seem to be touring around the Midwest--based in Chicago, they try to make it up to Minneapolis about once a month. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ From: Charley.Darbo@harpercollins.com (Charley Darbo) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:37:42 -0500 Subject: mysterious RUBY lyric Anyone out there want to help me try to decipher the following Ruby lyric? Rather than beginning by posting my few ideas (which all meet with contradictions) and have _them_ become the primary subject of interpretation, I'll hold them till others have suggested some theories. _P_A_R_A_F_F_I_N_ Old man's ass 50 heads wide Side to side to side to side to side to side to side [_chorus:_] Are we all wrapped up - wrapped up together Are we all wrapped up - fit for the kill Are we all wrapped up - stacked up together - fit for the kill I'll stretch my neck to look up to him There's a flower thief in my back yard again, I'll Grin my teeth to make him stay, Trap him in my flower bed and then, I'll feed him with my paraffin stretch my neck to look up to him [_chorus_] Old man got me in the eye again, Stuck his bony finger in. Turned me 'round and did it all again Now I smell like paraffin. now I smell like paraffin now i smell like paraffin . . . --charleydarbo ------------------------------ From: MJM Date: 15 Jan 96 10:41:59 EST Subject: reflection ...and you live life with your arms reached out, eye to eye when speaking, enter rooms with great joy shouts, happy to be meeting, and bright as yellow. I do not want to be a rose, I do not wish to be pale pink, but flower scarlet, flower gold, and have no thorns to distance me, but be bright as yellow, warm as yellow. Even if I'm *shining* here inside, even if I'm shouting, do you *see* that I'm *wanting*?? That I want to be so bright, *bright*, bright as yellow, warm as yellow? - -karenperisreflectingperfectlywhatiamfeelingtodaymjm (-:-) ------------------------------ From: art@cs.sfu.ca Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 08:35:55 PST Subject: Re: Anhai The fact that an Anhai cd is pending is GREAT news! Yeah! However, I must take a bit of an exception to one of the comments in Steve Ito's post - not due to Steve, of course, but quoted from a "Toronto weekly": > Congrats to Toronto singer Anhai, the first Canadian musician ever >invited to perform at Europe's oldest music festival, Women in E Motion in >Bremen, Germany. As I mentioned back in November, the very wonderful Veda Hille is also performing at that festival. Perhaps Anhai was invited first, but I suspect this is just a bit of the usual 'Toronto is all that counts' hype. (For the non-Canadians among you, please pardon the gratuitous Toronto bashing.) Art Liestman ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: IM, Linda Thompson The very yellow mjm prompts my testimonial..... Innocence Mission has never grabbed me much. I've only given each of the first two albums a few listens, and they seemed nice enough, but not too compelling. I don't know what it is about Glow though. I've instantly taken a shine to it. It somehow snuck right under my skin, both lyrically and musically, and I've really been enjoying listening to it the last few days. (One little question though - Who is Harry?) Also - Anyone know whatever happened to Linda Thompson? I remember her solo album back in the 80's (which I happily got to listen to in Minneapolis), but it never seemed to make it to disc, and that was the last I ever heard of her. Also, the one song that got radio play from it in Utah then (about 4 times) was "Can't Stop the Girl". I stumbled across a cover of it some time ago, and can't remember who it was. Anyone know? Neal ------------------------------ From: dbucak@netaxs.com (Deniz Bucak) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:32:31 -0500 Subject: My Scarlet Life At 09:55 AM 1/15/96, jeffrey hanson wrote: > >I saw My Scarlet Life last Friday night at the Loring Bar here in >Minneapolis. That's it I'm moving to Chicago. I'm tired of waiting for them and The Moon Seven Times to tour the east coast. But on second thought I have gotten to see Happy live here... >I wasn't sure what to expect, but was fairly pleasantly >impressed, Nice to hear that they're good live. Are they back with the singer they had on _Reliquaries_ or is it a new one? If she's someone new how did she sound? >ItThe CD is great--I think it will really grow on me. #1 on my top five from last year. I'm assuming it's _Reliquaries_, if it's a new one I'll really commence gnawing my way through my rib cage. > this morning I noticed a little red thread sticking out >the side, and noticed for the first time a little scroll tied with thread >stuck on the left side under the lip of the jewel box--lyric sheet! There's also lyrics at their home page, whose URL I forget at the moment. But *ahem* (shameless plug warning) there is a link to there at MY (mostly non-musical) homepage (URL below). >The band they remind me >of most is Miranda Sex Garden--though they're not quite that dark I'm not familiar with Miranda Sex Garden - maybe I'll go check them out. On another subject I picked up Sybil Vane's eponymous album and the single to _Pixy_ based on Anthony's Top Ten. I've only had a chance to listen to it once but overall I was favorably impressed. I also picked up an album by This Ascention which maybe I'll review later and my current shameful pleasure, Rancid's _... and out come the wolves_. I couldn't help myself, I've been deprived of new Clash for far too long. - - Deniz dbucak@netaxs.com http:\\www.netaxs.com\~dbucak\ "Be nice to Mike,he's been nice to you" - Chris Conway ------------------------------ From: "jeffrey hanson" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 12:42:26 cdt Subject: Re: My Scarlet Life >Nice to hear that they're good live. Are they back with the singer they had >on _Reliquaries_ or is it a new one? If she's someone new how did she >sound? The singers, Heidi and Julie, were the same as on the album. And yes, the album I picked up is Reliquaries--no new one yet. >>The band they remind me >>of most is Miranda Sex Garden--though they're not quite that dark >I'm not familiar with Miranda Sex Garden - maybe I'll go check them out. If you check out Miranda Sex Garden I recommend you don't start with Madras--a collection of madrigals that is atypical of the rest of their work. I'd start with Suspiria (which has a great cover of My Funny Valentine) or Fairytales of Slavery (their latest release). The more I listen to My Scarlet Life, the less they remind me of them, but I still think they have a few things in common. My Scarlet LIfe tends to be a little funkier and humorous--where Miranda Sex Garden can be more harsh and grating--but in a good way. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #346 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu