From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #330 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, 3 January 1996 Volume 02 : Number 330 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ! Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:17:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: yet another end of year list 95 was a very strange year, like 93 both the best and worst of my life. I prefer years with less standard deviation ;-) One of the *good* things was stumbling onto this list and learning: a) that the music most of my friends make fun of is called "ecto" b) that there are a lot of other people who like it too c) there is a whole lot more that i hever even heard of! wow! thanks folks! so here's a list (not really in order) of some songs that really grabbed me in '95. (the rule is the song had to be initially released or re-released somewhere in the world in '95) also, it has to be said that there are some really excellent albums (c.f. _the keep_, the new loreena mckennit e.p.) that i always listen to as a whole, so individual songs stand out less, but they are nontheless way swell ani difranco, "untouchable face," a.k.a. "who am i" (live performances) an absolutely killer song. makes me an emotional wreck almost every time. jennifer trynin, {can't remember the title right now, but the one that goes "it's too bad you are such a loser, it's too bad you are such a lost cause"} from _cockamamie_, which was a very solid debut overall heather nova, "sugar" from _oyster_ heather nova, "blue black" from _oyster_ i think *both* of these songs have been on every mixtape i made since i got the cd that didn't have some restriction that precluded including them (like the tape that was all songs from a jukebox). and i think _oyster_ is the best album of the year matthew sweet, "sick of myself" from _100% fun_ self-deprecating, bitter lyrics and lead guitar from (doug's 2nd favorite living guitar player) richard lloyd. i don't care if it *is* the hit single, i like it anyway, so there! mae moore, "evolution" from _dragonfly_. just very pretty and sad. dambuilders, "bending machine" from _ruby red_. the year's token loud music with twisted guitars entry (last years would have been drive like jehu) the vapors, "magnets" from _anthology_ (re-release, originally 1981) cool synchronicity thing. one saturday i was riding my bike through the streets of dc, singing the vapors epic song about the assassination of jfk at confused tourists, and having a lot of trouble getting all the words in the right order, since i hadn't heard the song in many years (or even thought of it) less than a month later, the _anthology_ cd came out, and years of always looking in the "V" section paid off :-) okay, they were just a ripoff of the jam. i think they were a good jam ripoff :-) translator, "necessary spinning" from _translation_ 20/20, "nuclear boy" from _20/20/lookout!_ more in the faves of the early 80's finally on cd category. now, if only someone would pick up the Swimming Pool Q's catalog!! sally timms, "longing, madneess and lust" from, um, i forget the name of it. but how can you not love a song with a name like that?! dar williams, "christians and the pagans" (single) probably my favorite seasonal tune of all time. there's loads more, but i'll desist now... doug __/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\__/-\ = ...nous devons cultiver notre jardin... = = INET:dmayowel@access.digex.net AOL:DougMhyphW Compu$erve:102432,355 = = visit the pathetic caverns! http://www.access.digex.net/~dmayowel = ------------------------------ From: Kevin Dekan {x66440 CF/DEV} Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:24:40 -0600 Subject: Re: Alanis Morissette was (Re: Okay okay, here's mine From: VNozick@tribune.com, better known as Valerie: >I, too, can't really stand her. Here's my theory: It's no accident that AM is >signed to Madonna's label. Neither knows the first thing about subtlety, that >little thing that can change music from a piece of dreck to a masterpiece. >Compare AM's anger to Tori's anger. They both have a lot of rage, but Tori >crafts hers in smooth, calm tones. Tori doesn't have to scream to get her point >across -- instead she writes "Me and a Gun." Madonna and AM are both over-the- >top, albeit with different perspectives. AM is acting like the angry victim; >Madonna is the sexqueen. I don't deny the fact that AM may have been seriously >hurt in life. However, AM loses all credibility as a serious musician by taking >the easy road in expressing herself. She comes across as pissed off, true, but >not with any depth. This, for me explains AM in the proverbial nutshell. I got a copy of JLP from a friend and was mildly interested to begin with. But the interest faded fast when I saw a 1/2 hour special featuring AM on eMpTV. They showed a clip of her doing that song "You Oughta Know" live and I thought it was simply horrible. She basically just pranced around on the stage screaming her lungs out in a not so flattering fashion. I almost felt sorry for her. But the crowd of course was going bananas. Go figure I guess. Coincidentally, I saw in another fine medium today the USA Today newspaper, that Alanis has sold over 4 million copies of JLP since it's June '95 release. That's an impressive figure. She also starts a rather extended tour tonite in San Diego. I am however, not distressed at all to see she won't be coming near my area... just some added gristle... -Kevin ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:47:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Dalbello web page in the works A Dalbello fan from Alberta that I've been in correspondence with is just beginning a Dalbello web page. If anyone has information you think should be on the site, please send it to him. The site address is: http://www.matrikon.ab.ca/~briant/dalbello/dalbello.html but there's not much there yet. His email address is: Brian Tegart Thanks! - --Neile ------------------------------ From: David Dixon Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:52:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Top 10 Time to jump into the fray. In no particular order, Steve Reich, _The Cave_ As Joe Zitt already pointed out, Reich builds upon the techniques he developed in _Different Trains_ to great effect here. I don't think the final product is as viscerally gripping as DT, but there are some truly beautiful moments on these two discs. Her Majesty The Baby, _Mary_ A SF-area band. *Very* ecto. If you're getting a copy of this year's Happy Gift Project, you'll hear one of their tunes as part of my submission. Kevin Gilbert, _Thud_ Sometimes self-consciously clever, but pretty solid pop throughout from the Toy Matinee co-founder. Happy Rhodes, _The Keep_ For my money, *much* better than _BtC_. The stripped-down sound suits her well. Supergrass, _I Should Coco_ Fast, infectious Britpop from this precocious (and rather ugly) Oxford trio, with a tackle box full o' hooks. Blur's bratty younger brothers. Emmylou Harris, _Wrecking Ball_ Daniel Lanois waves his magic wand again and makes this the oddest, and most beautiful, "country" album I've ever heard. _The Presidents Of The United States Of America_ A bunch of wise asses, if you ask me. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :) Hector Zazou et. al., _Songs From The Cold Seas_ Wonderfully spooky. I wish I could find my copy. :P various, _Gag Me With A Spoon: Don't Records Celebrates The 1980's_ A bunch of Milwaukee-area bands doing 80's covers. A few clinkers, but some really entertaining versions of "867-5309/Jenny" (by Marques Bovre & The Evil Twins) and especially "She Blinded Me With Science" (by Mrs. Fun, a kind-of female version of They Might Be Giants) make this disc well worthwhile. And the best album of the year:.... _We Get There When We Do_, Suddenly, Tammy! Terrifically tuneful and touching, Tammy! :) Runners-Up: _Aural Gratification, vol. 1_ (and 2) _Spinner_, Brian Eno & Jah Wobble _Ben Folds Five_ _Summer Crashing_, Susan Voelz _Wild Seed-Wild Flower_, Dionne Farris _Five Ways of Disappearing_, Kendra Smith _Maria_, Jane Siberry _Saturday Morning: Cartoons' Greatest Hits_, various other categories: Best Songs of the Year: "1979" - Smashing Pumpkins "I Know" - Dionne Farris "Walking Higher" - Heather Nova "River, Run" - Suddenly, Tammy! "Fendaya" - Her Majesty The Baby "Alright" - Supergrass "Alice Childress" - Ben Folds Five Biggest Disappointment: Heather Nova, _Oyster_ Good voice, but bland, bland, bland. Only "Walking Higher" really piqued my interest. Her concert appearance underwhelmed me as well; I much preferred her opening act, Ben Folds Five. D^2 ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:04:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: KaTe Live Hello, A friend at work just told me of a KaTe vid in the $14.95 stack at our Best Buy. I tossed names at him but none rang a bell. Then he said it was a live marked "import" in an orange box. Sounds like Hammer-smith Odeon to me. I've got a 1st edition, myself, but would pick it up for the 1st one to ask. KrW It was the least I could do! And never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: Christopher Boek Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:48:21 +1100 (EST) Subject: A return to the fold ... G'day, I don't actually know when I was in a fold before ... it's just what everybody else says when they've come back after a long absence. Not that I've been absent really ... I changed over to the digest recently because I couldn't deal with the huge mailboxes, or rather the huge number of messages, and it's left me a little isolated from the ebb and flow of things. Oh well, c'est la vie, zo is het leven ... I hope that 1996 brings many joys, and that you didn't have _too_ good a time on New Years Eve ('cos then I'd have to be jealous). It was raining in Melbourne, like really raining, and cold. That may not surprise many of you, but IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SUMMER!!! (grr). Maybe it'll get warm soon. I can count on one hand the number of days that have been over 30 this summer. Apparently we've already had the average rainfall for January, and it's only the 4th! Music! Ah yes, that was it. I was going to waste even more of your collective precious time and give some kind of list of good buys (as opposed to goodbyes, which are far more depressing). I don't know if I can do a top ten list though, as that would require that I'd bought ten CDs last year :} ....... This list is in the order that they popped into my head, not in any kind of ranking (unless there are subconcious things happening beyond my control! :) ). Sarah McLachlan, Fumbling Towards Ecstasy. - ------------------------------------------ This made the biggest impression on me last year. I bought it on a whim in JB's after having heard so much about it here, and just happening to spot it on the shelf (most things mentioned here seem to require special ordering for some reason ....). Incidentally they had both the US pressing and an Australian pressing ... is anyone aware of any differences ? I got the US pressing, since I figured that that was the original and if there had been any fuckups that it would be in the derivatives. I also remember the Apollo 18 experience (TMBG), where Fingertips was one big track on the Australian pressing. Anyway, I love the album - it lived in my CD players for quite a while, and it still makes a regular appearance in them. I love the acoustic version of Possession at the end, and I love the rhythms throughout. I also picked up a CD single for Possession, and the last track on that blows me away. I don't know what it's called of the top of my head, but it was mainly instrumental from memory, and absolutely stunning. Enya, The Memory of Trees - ------------------------- I had quite high expectations of this one when I first got it, and to be honest it didn't meet them. It seemed to be a rehash of all her other albums with a new cover. However, upon listening to it more, I've come to like it a lot. I still think that the style of it doesn't differ much from previous efforts, it just bothers me less. It's done a fair penance in the CD player too, of late. Peter Gabriel, Secret World Live - -------------------------------- Was this 1995 ? I saw PG three times at various stages during his touring for Us: first at Womadelaide, where he performed the songs for the first time. Joy Askew was with them then. The second time was in Dortmund on the second European leg of the main Secret World Live Tour. That was a Paula Cole one. The third was a Proposed Womad in The Hague that ended up just being a Peter Gabriel concert. This one had far simpler staging, but was more elaborate than the original Womad one. I have to say that the first was the most special, because it was the first time I ever saw PG live. It was also a number of firsts for him (first in Australia, first time performing Us songs, first time with that band line-up) which made it nicer too. And Womadelaide has such a fantastic atmosphere, that you can't help but be on a real high for the whole time. The album (and the video) were more mementos of the second of the abovementioned experiences, which is nice too because I didn't get to see much of it at the time :). I like many of the live versions of the songs, especially Across the River, which I remember best from the Adelaide experience. Also Secret World gets me. Even just the repeating bass line gets me going :). I have to admit that it's not been much of a CD player dweller, but when it comes out, it's certainly appreciated. Jane Siberry, Speckless Sky - --------------------------- This is an oldie, but a newie for me (and very much a goodie!). 1994 and 1995 have very much been years on Jane discovery for me. It started with When I Was a Boy, which was the only one you could get here, and proceeded through the Walking and then Speckless Sky, which were sent over from various sources (Kevin in Canada, and He-Who-Is-Called-Tim in Manchester, although he bought it in the US I think). Brilliant stuff. Even my brother, who has fairly similar tastes to me, but still thinks some of the things I like are weird, commented on how he liked the 'I want more money' song. I don't actually know it's name :}. I've since acquired Maria, and heard Bound by the Beauty, and my first response to those two are that it's some kind of predetermined effort to make albums in particular genres. I guess there's nothing really wrong with that, but I think that the reason I have a problem with it is that most of the music I like isn't really from any genre, and if there are any genres that I tend to steer away from it's Country and Western and Jazz. There are exceptions, but I find them boring (apologies to any avid followers of them). Maria will probably grow on me though, and there are already some tracks on it that I really like. Whew. This mail is getting too long for me, and I have to do some work, so I'll send some more later. Until then, then, ......... Chris. - -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| ||| Christopher Boek - c.boek@ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | | Tel:(+613)- 344 9109(BH) 853 4296(AH) |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|"I've got no room for a quote" CB 1994. ------------------------------ From: joels@sd.cts.com (Joel Siegfried) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:51:33 -0800 Subject: Collectible Lapel Pins Dear Ectophiles, I have been doing some work for a manufacturer of cloissone lapel pins who is a licensee for the U.S. Olympics Committee, National Football League, Major League Baseball, etc. Their pins are quite beautiful, and some of the Olympic sets often sell out. They are sought after by collectors and people who like to trade them with others around the world. Recently, the company asked me to explore interest for sets or individual music-related theme pins. These could be distributed directly with new CDs, made available at release parties, sold at concerts, or described in brochures that accompany each album. Personally, I am very much interested in Ecto performers such as Happy Rhodes, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Loreena, Jane Siberry and others discussed on this list, and thought that some or all of these artists and their labels might be a good starting point for this concept. If such pins were available, would you be interested in obtaining them? Please note that this is NOT a commercial offer. But I would like to hear directly from Ectophiles about your interest in such an item, how you would like to see these marketed, and any other feedback you might care to offer. Olympics and sports pins are generally multi-colored and measure approximately 1" by 1", with some being larger. Please respond by email directly to my address given below. Apologies in advance if this is off-topic. Cheers, Joel joels@cts.com - -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Joel Siegfried San Diego, California - USA Voice (619) 222-9236 | | Internet addresses: joels@cts.com ei955@cleveland.freenet.edu | | "But I haven't seen Barbados so I must get out of this." - Tori Amos | | "It's easy when you're blessed with money, love and sex." - Heather Nova | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Richard Holmes Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:34:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Diamanda, Laurie Anderson Neal Copperman writes: >On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Ariel Brennan wrote: >> It's music! How scary can it be? ;> > >Heh, I think you should run out and buy Plague Mass or Vena Cava or >what's that one - Housewives with Steak Knives, or something like >that. I'd love to be there to see your reaction. Speaking of "Wild Women With Steak Knives"... does ANYONE *please* know where I can get a copy of this, or the "Littanies of Satan" release? New or used, CD or vinyl? Thanks, Richard \@/ | Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) \|/ | "Drum to your future, Sing your dreams alive!" , , | , , ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes / Renaissance / Sheila Chandra / Laura Love / Jane Siberry / Fairport Convention / Danielle Dax / Dog Faced Hermans ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:31:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Okay okay, here's mine Hello, > > ROTFL!!!! Hey, she's got a couple of okay songs, but what's all the ROTFL=? Right on ___ ___ limit??? KrW "TV or not TV, that is the question. Whether it is nobler to suffer the lies of outrageous pitch-men, or to slit your throat with an electrocoated stainless steel blade"? WOI ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:36:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: yet another end of year list Hello, On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, ! wrote: > > translator, "necessary spinning" from _translation_ > 20/20, "nuclear boy" from _20/20/lookout!_ Necessary Spinning! Wow, I haven't listened to that for years!!!!!! Talk[] about a rouser! Tie someone down and play it, if you want to drive them crazy. KrW "TV or not TV, that is the question. Whether it is nobler to suffer the lies of outrageous pitch-men, or to slit your throat with an electrocoated stainless steel blade"? WOI ------------------------------ From: "Chris Montville" Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:09:32 +0000 Subject: Thanks & '95 favorites Hi ecto! I don't post very often, but I've been reading ecto faithfully for about two years, and I just wanted to thank everyone on the list for your wonderful musical recommendations. As I was doing my year-end CD audit, I realised that practically all of the really wonderful albums I picked up this year were by artists that were recommended here. I've unsubscribed to every other list I'm on because I simply don't have time to read them, but I'll always have time for ecto! I picked up quite a few good albums this year; here's a quick run-down of the most brilliant: * Jane Siberry - Maria This CD doesn't top WIWAB (an impeccable masterpeice), but it goes in a great new direction and is quite a refreshing change. * October Project - Falling Farther In Even better than their debut album! Mind-blowingly powerful, brilliantly performed, and catchy tunes to boot. Favorite track: "Sunday Morning Yellow Sky" * Dar Williams - The Honesty Room I just picked this one up last week, but I have no reservations about including it on this list. Her bittersweet folk balads have a subtle genius that sets her apart from some of the other singer-songwriters I've heard recently. * Bad Religion - All Ages Most definately not ecto-fare, but I'm a sucker for this band nonetheless. A great compilation if ever there was one. * Ani Difranco - Not a Pretty Girl A great album... one track even has a bass hook! * Heather Nova - Oyster Wow. I must see her live this year. Also worth mentioning - Happy Rhodes- The Keep, The The - Hanky Panky, Sarah - Freedom Sessions (can't have too much of a greater-than-great thing), Kristen Hersh - Hips & Makers, Throwing Muses - University Have a great year (because this will probably be my only post in '96), Chris M. +-----------------------+--+----------------------+ | Chris Montville | A real person trapped | | cmont@rci.rutgers.edu | inside the body of a | | http://fs4.rutgers.edu| high school student. | +-----------------------+---+---------------------+ |"Noone will step forward from the shadows saying:| +-Expect this. It is part of the path"-J. Siberry-+ ------------------------------ From: rlovejoy@netaxs.com (Robert Lovejoy) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:09:05 -0500 Subject: News From AG Just a quick note - Kevin mentions that Happy is well underway on her latest studio album. In fact, she's pretty close to laying down the vocals! We can expect to hear Dean and Carl playing on this album, by the way. I for one feel it's not Christmas yet! Robert ------------------------------ From: jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:42:57 -0500 Subject: paging a new york ectophile I was wondering if someone within range of WLIW could record a program for me on Jan 6th: >(For those who were not on the list at the time, "Just Passing Through" >follows Shawn, October Project and Julia in a "day in the life" documentary, >showing what life on the road is really like for these artists both on stage >and behind the scenes. It's earned rave reviews in Chicago and will be seen >on New York PBS station WLIW on January 6.) I'll gladly pay for a tape & mailing costs... Thanks! Jeff ------------------------------ From: marks59@ix.netcom.com (MARK SHEPARD ) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 19:48:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Top 10 David Dixon wrote: > >Biggest Disappointment: > >Heather Nova, _Oyster_ > > Good voice, but bland, bland, bland. Only "Walking Higher" really >piqued my interest. Her concert appearance underwhelmed me as well; I >much preferred her opening act, Ben Folds Five. > I guess one's biggest disappointment is another's greatest treasure! Since September,when I first bought Oyster and seen Heather live,I've been trying to get all I could of her music.After 4 months of listening almost entirely of her music,I haven't tired of it at all.Now,anything else I try to listen to seems bland,bland,bland compared to Heather's music.But that's just me I guess. Mark ------------------------------ From: 32 flavors and then some Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:49:51 -0500 Subject: Re: The Return Of The Replies neile sez: >Yes--this is exactly why we're bothering with this. If you like an >artist, and see that we categorize her on the "alternative pop" and the >"folk" lists you get an idea of what we think the person is like and >other people that fall in the same rough area--so you can explore >further. sort of like the "recommended if you like" entries in the cmj new music monthly reviews? perhaps we can use that kind of categorization instead of genre categorization? woj ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 22:53:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: the return of the return of Hi! Nick replied: >It seems to be for sale quite readily at Rebel Rebel on Bleeker St. in >NYC.. Thanks. Will have to check it out the next time I'm in the city... >I had heard that Joni Mitchell's CBS this Morning segment was scheduled for >Jan 9th, but it is listed for Wednesday Jan. 3rd in the paper.. yikes, that >tommorrow. I hope this gets out.. Indeed it did, and thanks to you (and to woj for seeing the note and actually remembering to tell me about it ;) I got the whole thing on tape. Pretty cool. I assume that was Brian Blade performing with her on drums there? Interesting note: the studio audience was made up entirely of WFUV listeners, and the woman who asked the question about the upcoming Joni box set was Rita Houston, midday host, music director, and erstwhile ecto lurker. Not to mention rabid, raving Joni fan. Go Rita! :) >Jane was one of the hundreds of performers and poets to do a 2-5 minute >piece at St. Marks Church in NYC as part of the 22nd annual New Years Day >Marathon reading yesterday.. > >Syd Straw, Alan Ginsberg, Penny Arcade, Lenny Kaye, and oh too many to >mention were also on the bill. So, were you there? Tell us more!!!!! Erik informed: >Well, in my Tower they filed it in the Techo/Ambient section (which >actually makes sense). Look for the Aural Gratification tab. Of course, >Your Tower May Vary. Thanks -- if I can find that section the next time I'm in there, I'll check it out. :) Ariane wailed: >Heeeeeeeeeelp! > > I've looked everywhere for The Nields' 'Bob on the Ceiling'. Well, >not exactly everywhere, but still... I looked here (pretty much pointless, >but I had to try), in Columbus, and in Seattle. No luck. So... is anyone out >there willing to get me a copy and trade it for something? You can call 1-800-5NIELDS and order one for yourself. I'm pretty sure the number will work from Canada, and I know they'll ship there. Just leave your name and address and pertinent payment info on the machine, and a copy will be winging its way westward the next day. Damon countered: >that sounds like a great idea to me :) especially if you *know* what you're >looking for. i, and i think neile too, agree with you wholeheartedly about >the categorisation thing, but in this case i think it's *good*, if a bit >haphazard. ... >secondly, the guide is primarily a place for people to find new >artists, not to browse entries on the ones they already know they like. so, >while categorisation in a record store where it serves little purpose (i >mean, would you walk into a record store and buy something just because it >was filed under "pop"? i think not!!! ;), is a waste of time, but >categorisation in the guide will help somewhat, since the "pop" music >described there will generally be ecto-pop, or at least described with an >ecto spin on it, and therefore more closely knit than "pop" in a music >store... The whole point of not having categories is so that if you *don't* know what you're looking for, you'll have the opportunity to stumble upon some things you otherwise might not have found. Or am I the only person who is prone to randomly browsing record stores by letter, depending on my mood? >though categories are rather loose and eminently breakable, ... all the more reason to dispense with them entirely. >all the >music described is of some interest to some subset of ectophiles, and these >categories are the best we can do to try to narrow the choices down a tiny >bit, so that someone who likes the synth-ey side of ecto, for instance, can >avoid the folk-ey side, and vice versa. they're far from absolute, and >probably won't be one hundred percent accurate all the time, but they make >for a good starting place. and Neile further elucidated: >Yes--this is exactly why we're bothering with this. If you like an >artist, and see that we categorize her on the "alternative pop" and the >"folk" lists you get an idea of what we think the person is like and >other people that fall in the same rough area--so you can explore >further. How about just let the descriptions of each artist speak for themselves, and let people make their own decisions as to whether or not they feel the artist is worth their time? Countless major discoveries have been made thanks to pure serendipity. I'm sorry, but I can't shake the feeling that the Ectophiles Guide is in danger of becoming bogged down in artificial categorizations that will ultimately serve to limit its usefulness. Patrick reported: >that's not enough I got my first new Tori music yesterday. It's her >domestic release of Caught A Lite Sneeze,they are calling it a CD5 maxi >single. The other four songs are called silly songs and include This >Old Man, and Graveyard. I,ll try to give a more detailed review later >if no one beats me to it,just wanted to let everyone know it's out there. Argh! We've been searching all over northern New Jersey for the past two days trying to find it, with no luck. Someone whose name I just inadvertently deleted (oops :}) corrected: > The name of the Nilsson tribute album on which Aimee Mann > appears (the one Meridith Tarr mentioned) is "For the Love of > Harry: Everybody Sings Nilsson" (not "I'm With Harry"). Aha... I knew it was one of those phrases. Thanks. Ariel declared: >I have no idea who Amy Ray is, so I can't say much to that, Amy Ray = 1/2 of the Indigo Girls (along with Emily Saliers). She's the brunette with the deeper, rougher voice and the cool tattoos. :) >BUT, I can >testify to the resemblence between Ferrick and Morissette's voices. I've >played JLP and WTW to a few people, and they generally had no idea the >vocalists were different people. You have confused friends. :) >The liner notes defining them a punk kind of scares me. ;> XTC are about as punk (in the traditional sense) as Madonna. They have produced some of the thickest, most luscious British pop songs of the past 25 years, and have influenced lots and lots and lots of really cool people. Chris Boek returned: >G'day, Hi, Chris!!! Happy new year! Hope your weather gets better (even icky and rainy is better than what we've been getting here on the east coast of the US lately... :P). >Incidentally they had both the US pressing >and an Australian pressing ... is anyone aware of any differences ? I got >the US pressing, since I figured that that was the original and if there >had been any fuckups that it would be in the derivatives. Not sure about any differences between the US and Australian pressings, though something tells me there are a few. The original pressing was actually the Canadian, but of the two choices you had you picked the earliest. :) Hey, great news about the new album, Bob! Yay... :) +===========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/methpg.html| +===========================================================================+ | "Life is a sleazy stranger and this is his favorite bar" - Ani DiFranco | +===========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #330 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu