From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #215 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, 8 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 215 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Millions of replies (very long) Sage asks: > Richard wrote: > > >Of all of jane's albums, I'd say that "When I Was A Boy" really > >connects to me, and did the very first time I listened. I haven't > > Is this her first album, or...? Jane's albums, in chronological order (I would be so embarrassed if I missed one so I hope I didn't): Jane Siberry No Borders Here The Speckless Sky The Walking Bound By The Beauty When I Was A Boy Maria > Do you like to sing? > A friend of mine and I in junior high had really really disparate tastes in > music and we were talking about it one day. Realized that while she loved to > dance to the music she heard, I loved to sing to it, and as a result it was > the beat that captured her and the lyrics that captured me. I like to dance and sing. However, I am a decent dancer and a terrible singer. I said: > >Part of the problem is that most lyrics don't seem that interesting to > >me--so many are built either of cliches or stream of consciousness stuff > >that doesn't add up to much. Sometimes the music can fill in the blanks Sage replied: > Eeek, really? I mean, I agree that this is extremely true of top 40 music, > but of ecto stuff? Can you name a particular song that you really love the > lyrics to? Well, I think the lyrics to ecto stuff tends to be better than top 40 music, but I can't say I think that very many lyrics stand up without the music. This might be because I mostly write and love poetry, and I read a lot of it--for me poetry is carefully chosen words with innate music put together in a particular order and shape to evoke/communicate. If you think I'm particular about what kind of music I listen to, well, I'm twice as particular about what poetry I read. There are very few lyrics I would want to read without the accompanying music playing in my head at least. > >Jewel is an exception to me for this--I wasn't wildly fond of her music, > >but her clever lyrics wormed their way into my heart. > > Like what, particularly? *curious* The first things that caught me were particular images, like "He talks like Columbian coffee with cream" and then the funny ones like "My Own Private God's Gift to Women". And "Painters" is an incredibly beautiful/painful story of a song. Jewel more than anyone frequently tells a story with her songs or has a story lurking in such songs as "Daddy" and "Hey Little Sister" (both of which are songs that I thought were wonderful when I first really listened to them and still think so now). For me Tori and Jane's lyrics aren't particularly good stories, but they are incredibly evocative, particularly in combination with their music. "Bells for Her" gives me shivers, but I can't pinpoint exactly why. "An Angel Stepped Down" evokes all kinds of complicated images and thoughts for me that are equally hard to describe or even to say exactly where they're coming from. I love that, but very few artists can pull that off for me. Usually I find that kind of lyrical style too vague to be evocative. It's the combination with the music. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@iw.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 14:03:03 -0500 Subject: IRC... might i suggest that any time someone from ecto is on the IRC, they create an #ecto room if there isn't already one? then go about your business on indigo-girls or whatever channel you hang out on. that way, other ecto people who are on will know if someone else is on. we also might wanna put each other's nick's in a notify file, if you can... it's been ages since i've seen many ecto people and i haven't many NICK's in my notify file these days. 'course we could always decide on days/times to get together on #ecto, too... but that's more complicated. best, (btw my NICK is sethra for all you irc people out there) Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn, Webspinner Virtual Home: http://imho.net/~lakrahn/index.html IMHO Productions: Internet Consulting, Training, & Web Design ------------------------------ From: Paula Shanks Date: 08 Sep 1995 15:09:20 -0400 Subject: Re: The Blue Nile Matt, I hope somebody knows something about what those fellows are up to. They produced "Big Yellow Taxi" on the latest Maire Brennan, and appeared with Robbie Robertson on a cut on his second album, but I haven't heard anything more of them since "Hats". These are the guys that make me fall prey to EWS. I used to be a reasonable person and buy a record only after hearing a cut or two, but I read a review of "A walk across the rooftops", thought: sounds good, and was so swept away by it that I bought scads of copies for presents that year. Now I hear about artists on ecto and I think: what if it's another Blue Nile deal?!? and I'm out the door. Having been burned rather often, this doesn't work as well as it once did, but that still small voice continues to burble in my ear every so often. Following up on another couple of things recently: Ian Tyson puts out records pretty regularly. He's on the folkie Sugar Hill label--sings mostly cowboy music these days. The long-ago wife Sylvia Fricker Tyson may still record but if so she doesn't seem to get distributed here. I think she was a TV host for a while. And re the Sondheim Woods: don't knock using Muppets til you check out what they're doing lately; e.g. "Babe". A great little movie with amazing work from Henson Associates. One of my top faves of the summer. I throw out a query: are we cheating the artists we love when we buy their discs in used stores? I was amazed by the holdings at a local store I've been avoiding (trying to ward off EWS, to no avail). So many discs! many of them promos of titles not yet in distribution! I bought and bought, and then got home and thought, these folks will never see a penny off this. It doesn't seem fair--then again, neither does spending $15 a crack. - --Paula (who somehow couldn't stop herself from buying a Negresses Vertes import, the fool) ------------------------------ From: Kevin John Contzen Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: random blatherings (fwd)[4~ Forwarded message: From contzen Fri Sep 8 12:21:16 1995 Subject: Re: random blatherings To: ariel_b@pipeline.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199509072153.RAA17926@pipe5.nyc.pipeline.com> from "Ariel Brennan" at Sep 7, 95 05:53:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2485 > >>How one gets into a song: > >>I'm one of the lyric people, but I do know that most people tend to > >>get into the music and the beat before the lyrics. That's why so many > >>really popular songs have such pathetic lyrics. Me, I CAN'T enjoy a > >>song without good lyrics, whereas good lyrics can turn a song from one > >>on my hate list to one one my "Drooool" list. i'm very much a lyrics person myself... music, unless it's exceptionally beautiful or awful (or really, really weird and interesting:) doesn't make the decision about whether i'll like something or not... i find annie lennox is a perfect example... her music isn't terribly interesting or beautiful, but her lyrics raise the songs to something heavenly.. (esp. why and love song for a vampire.... achingly beautiful songs, imo). speaking of heavenly (in more ways than one:), saw angels in america (millenium approaches & perestroika) the last two nights.. two pieces of the most amazing theatre i've ever seen. way too much in there to digest in two nights, though... i'll be reading the scripts and seeing it again. > >I think lyrics first, if I can understand enough of them to be > >intrigued. Otherwise, I have to get hooked into by the beat, > >textures, harmony, vocals, etc, before I bother to listen to it > >closely or read the lyrics. there -is- one more exception to my lyrics preference... (deep, dark, scandalising admission follows): dance music. in this area, i like songs because of music and beat (usually because there isn't much else:). > Hmmm.... I've never done that. I've bought albums based on hearing one song > and liking the lyrics (Like Alanis Morissette's. Musically it did nothing > for me, but I heard the words, and THEY hooked me. Bought album, and then > began to appreciate the music.) I've bought albums based on recommendations > (mostly from here. :P), but never on lyrics. hmmm.. myself, i find alanis' lyrics actually somewhat off-putting. They're very... straightforward?... i'm one for subtlety and hidden meanings and melancholy :) i think this "straightforwardness" is one of the things that makes happy not very interesting for me.. she'll just - -say- things, and it all feels far too obvious for me. i don't think i'm expressing this well, but i've never really been able to, anyway. hmmm. no offense anyone:) kevin :( ------------------------------ From: Kevin John Contzen Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Millions of replies (very long) > Yup, and I find myself feeling that way about Tori's music as well. I guess > I get frustrated, when there's *so much* behind the story, and maybe that's > because I'm a writer...? Like: tell the whole story or don't tell it at all. > Or something. (Damon, your nonsensical way of talking is catching *grin*). and this "not telling the whole story" type stuff is what i like about a lot of lyrics.... i like having to figure things out, to really work to understand, and maybe never really understanding at all. :) kevin ------------------------------ From: ariel_b@pipeline.com (Ariel Brennan) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:22:42 -0400 Subject: Re: random blatherings On Sep 08, 1995 12:21:16, 'Kevin John Contzen ' wrote: >i'm very much a lyrics person myself... music, unless it's exceptionally >beautiful or awful (or really, really weird and interesting:) doesn't >make the decision about whether i'll like something or not... Yes! I feel so warm and fuzzy now. I've always been surrounded by music people, and it made me nuts, because no one understood why I was so wild over words. And no one understood why I quote lyrics all the time. ;) >i find >annie lennox is a perfect example... her music isn't terribly >interesting or beautiful, but her lyrics raise the songs to something >heavenly.. (esp. why and love song for a vampire.... achingly beautiful >songs, imo). Hm. I've never really liked Annie Lennox. Another thing that's important to me in music is voice, and Annie's never really impressed me. >there -is- one more exception to my lyrics preference... (deep, dark, >scandalising admission follows): dance music. in this area, i like >songs because of music and beat (usually because there isn't much else:). I don't listen to dance music. Actually, I probably do, but I don't listen to it as dance music because... I don't dance. :) >hmmm.. myself, i find alanis' lyrics actually somewhat off-putting. >They're very... straightforward?... i'm one for subtlety and hidden >meanings and melancholy :) I like all kinds of differant lyrics, although I have to admit, I'm annoyed by too much subtlety sometimes. Sometimes I just want them to get to the point. On the other hand, sometimes I like subtlety and hidden meanings and melancholy. Depends on my mood, I suppose. Tori Amos, for example, is very straightforward in some ways, but she also hides meanings behind seemingly offhand comments incredibly well. >i think this "straightforwardness" is one >of the things that makes happy not very interesting for me.. she'll just >-say- things, and it all feels far too obvious for me. When the emotion expressed is something I can relate to, I want it just said. Mainly because a lot of what I look for is stuff I've never been able to just say. Ariel ------------------------------ From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:35:19 EDT Subject: Ectophilia on the air Yesterday, _Morning Edition_ ran a feature on Lida Husik. One more indicator that Happy will soon be due for their attentions. Glad that Amy likes the fruits of Doug and my labor. Back to tending to the 250+ pieces of email that pikled up when I took yesterday off to go see _The Net_. Mitch ------------------------------ From: ariel_b@pipeline.com (Ariel Brennan) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:42:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Millions of replies (very long) On Sep 08, 1995 12:01:39, '"Sage Lunsford & Todd O'Reilly" ' wrote: >Hi, all! I'm on my second cup of coffee for the morning, so I should be able >to get to all the responses :) I'm on my first huge mug of 7-Up! Re: When I Was A Boy >Hmmm. I'll have to give it a second try, then. Damon and I are opposites in >this respect: he enjoys electronic-sounding music and I really enjoy >bare-bones stuff (athough he somehow managed to make me a Kate Bush tape >that I loved :) ). I like everything; bare bones (ala Ani), electronic (ala Kate) and everything in between (Ala Tori). >Lyrics vs. Beat: > >Maybe it's also why the "fast" songs tend to be more popular on the radio >than the slow ones? Probably. I've noticed that ballads don't do very well unless they're GREAT ballads, or by someone who's already a star (like Madonna's Take A Bow. I doubt that've done as well if it were by, say, Sarah M.) >I've always loved the quiet slow songs over the fast >ones with a beat (I can't think of one "fast" song, in fact, that I've ever >liked a lot). I can think of songs all over the place that I like. :> But, I think medium high tempo is about the highest I can tolerate on a regular basis. I used to be into quiet, slow ballads, but recently, I've been on a rock kick. >Agreed! It was one of the things that made me love Ani Difranco -- the first >time I heard her Not So Soft album I sat there thinking, "Oh, yuck, what IS >this?" and then when I'd listened to the lyrics and realized how interesting >they were I completely turned around. I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Not So Soft at first. ;> I liked "Ani DiFranco" immediately, and I LOVED "Imperfectly" and "Not A Pretty Girl" immediately, but NSS and Puddle Dive took some getting used to... >Oh -- wait -- I forgot about harmony :). If I hear something on the radio >and I can't particularly understand the words, it's the harmony that gets >me. But if I find out later that there isn't any substance to the lyrics, I >get bored really quickly. That's interesting; I don't like harmony very much. I'm into one woman (or man, but usually woman) singing. I don't even like backup singers, unless it's the same person. :) >Do you like to sing? >A friend of mine and I in junior high had really really disparate tastes in >music and we were talking about it one day. Realized that while she loved to >dance to the music she heard, I loved to sing to it, and as a result it was >the beat that captured her and the lyrics that captured me. That happens to me all the time. Drives me batty. :> >I was horrified >to find out that she didn't even KNOW the lyrics to most of the songs she >liked :)! ARGH! That happens too! Drives me absolutely psycho! >:) My mother, for instance, who is a nutcase, doesn't know the lyrics to most of the songs she likes. And when she does, she doesn't even know what they mean! Ack! >Of course *grin* this was probably a blessing -- somewhere in my >head taking up room are the lyrics to Wham!'s "Wake me up before you go-go"... Ewwwwwwwww..... >>Jewel is an exception to me for this--I wasn't wildly fond of her music, >>but her clever lyrics wormed their way into my heart. > >Like what, particularly? *curious* I find that interesting, by the way, because Jewel's lyrics are a big reason why I DON'T like her very much. Her lyrics, to me, are very condescending, preachy, and holier than thou... and yet, they're crazy naive and tripe. She's got some moments of greatness, but usually, it's imagery. >Ariel said: > >>Jane's lyrics never really impressed me. The meanings are nice, but I'm not >>fond of the way she uses words; too repetitive. Like in Love Is Everything; >>she says "Maybe it was to" like 50 times. > >Whenever I hear a song like this I imagine the singer in the studio, singing >it overandoverandoveragain, looking as bored as I feel *grin*. Hehehehehe. Honestly, I like "Love Is Everything" a lot; gorgeous song, and I adore the meaning. Sooo sad. But the lyrics are really... mediocre. >>which is probably what makes her my favourite artist. i mean, "houdini" >>still brings tears to my eyes no matter *how* many times i hear it, and "get > >Awwwwww *snurfle* traigidamon Houdini makes me nauseous, honestly. Everytime I hear it, I have this horrible image Houdini, drowned and tied up, and it just makes me sick. >>out of my house" gives me nasty things crawling up my back every time. and >>with both of those, it's the way she manages to say everything through both > >See, but this one doesn't scare me at all -- Red Shoes, though, *that* one >really gives me the creeps... Red Shoes doesn't give me the creeps... "Under Ice", on the other hand... >Yup, and I find myself feeling that way about Tori's music as well. I guess >I get frustrated, when there's *so much* behind the story, and maybe that's >because I'm a writer...? Like: tell the whole story or don't tell it at all. >Or something. (Damon, your nonsensical way of talking is catching *grin*). I actually don't like musical stories. I feel like, if I wanted a short story, I'd be reading a book. Tori, by the way, I'd noticed seems to tell the story in thoughts I'd noticed. Like, if she's singing about, say, a breakup, she'll tell the story via "her" thoughts at the time. This leads to a sort of choppy feel, but it also charges her songs with emotion like practically no one else can. Ariel ------------------------------ From: VNozick@tribune.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:51:17 -0700 Subject: Music Vs. Lyrics Sorry -- I haven't saved any of the original posts in the music vs. lyrics debate. But I've decided to add my 2-cents: If I had to label myself, I would be a lyrics person. However, I've found that in my favorite music, the lyrics and the music interact to tell a story. One example of this is Bjork's It's Oh So Quiet. The lyrics by themselves are good, but lack a lot (hmmm....that applies to almost all of her music, really). But the music highlights the meaning of the lyrics, adds new meaning (the way the music rises and falls), creating a whole package. Tori and Kate are also masters at doing this -- the opening notes of Babooshka set the atmosphere of the story, and the flighty notes of Happy Phantom accent the quirky lyrics. However, I notice the lyrics first in almost any song. I think I can still sing much of Shadow Dancing by Andy Gibb. I'll find myself listening to a longtime favorite artist, and saying, 'wow' at the music, because I'll hear an instrument I've never heard before. But every lyric I know, almost from the first listen. And if the lyric is good, it'll make me interested in the song, almost regardless of the music. And if a lyricist puns, then I'm hooked. ==> Valerie "You're saving up bottle tops for your free piece of mind." -- Kirsty MacColl ------------------------------ From: Kevin John Contzen Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music Vs. Lyrics > If I had to label myself, I would be a lyrics person. However, I've found that > in my favorite music, the lyrics and the music interact to tell a story. One > example of this is Bjork's It's Oh So Quiet. The lyrics by themselves are good, > but lack a lot (hmmm....that applies to almost all of her music, really). But > the music highlights the meaning of the lyrics, adds new meaning (the way the > music rises and falls), creating a whole package. > there's just something about bjork... i have no idea what it is, but it's the thing that lets her pull off stuff like it's oh so quiet and have it actually work. and the stuff about cutlery. kevin, making just a teeny bit of sense maybe. ------------------------------ From: uchima@fncrd8.fnal.gov (Mike Uchima) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:45:35 -0500 Subject: Re: and then there was a klaus Just getting caught up... it's been a busy week! Nearly a week ago, THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE wrote: > Mike Uchima reported on Gongzilla (what a great name for a band :): > > [quoting Bon Lozaga, guitarist from Gongzilla:] > >> Right now I am in the studio to record my second solo record with Hansford > >> Rowe and Vic Stevens. David Torn and Happy Rhodes will also be appearing on > >> this new release. > > ?!? Weird. Will this be independently released, or what? What sort of music > does this guy do? Where is he from? We need details! Gongzilla could best be described as "aggressive fusion". I like it quite a bit, but it gets pretty far afield from most of the music discussed on this list. The core of Gongzilla consists of several ex-members of '70s psychedelic/fusion band Gong, including Bon Lozaga. I've not heard Lozaga's first solo recording, so I really can't comment on it; it seems he has a pretty big influence on Gongzilla's sound, so perhaps it's in a similar vein. I would assume his second solo album will be on Lolo records, the outfit that handled the Gongzilla release (I believe Lolo is Bon's own record company). This announcement kind of caught me by surprise, since the Gongzilla album is entirely instrumental, and not a style of music that is particularly close to Happy's. OTOH, I can see Torn fitting in, and Torn also managed to fit in quite nicely on BtC -- so I suppose anything's possible. This is just another one of those weird serendipitous things; I was already a fan of both Happy and David Torn before Torn appeared on BtC. Likewise, I've also had the Gongzilla album for several months, and had no idea there was any connection between them and Happy (or Torn, for that matter). What's next -- Happy guesting on the next King Crimson album? :) - -- Mike Uchima - -- uchima@fnal.fnal.gov ------------------------------ From: Richard Holmes Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:22:09 -0700 Subject: Re: random blatherings Ariel writes: >On Sep 08, 1995 12:21:16, 'Kevin John Contzen ' wrote: > >>there -is- one more exception to my lyrics preference... (deep, >>dark, >>scandalising admission follows): dance music. in this area, i like >>songs because of music and beat (usually because there isn't much >>else:). > >I don't listen to dance music. Actually, I probably do, but I don't >listen to it as dance music because... I don't dance. :) > Speaking of dancing and dance music, I *do* listen to dance music, sometimes, but often am not able to dance to it at the time (e.g., driving down the freeway)... because I pick the "best of the worst" when I'm in the car, and some dance music is rather interesting. However I sometimes do dance to it at home, but some of the more interesting music which *I* like to dance to include the Santeria / Voodoo, African, or monkey chant music... of course, one must be in the mood. Also, I sometimes find a slow, interpretive dance to things like Kate Bush's Hounds of Love or Jane Siberry's When I Was A Boy are the coolest things, and I find that I can certainly work up at least as much of a sweat doing slow stuff as the fast, perky beat stuff. I haven't yet tried, however, dancing to Lisa Germano or Ani DiFranco (But Happy Rhode's later stuff is always a winner... Tivoli and others from Colossus being some of my faves). >>hmmm.. myself, i find alanis' lyrics actually somewhat off-putting. >>They're very... straightforward?... i'm one for subtlety and hidden >>meanings and melancholy :) > > I like all kinds of differant lyrics, although I have to admit, I'm >annoyed by too much subtlety sometimes. Sometimes I just want them to >get to the point. > >On the other hand, sometimes I like subtlety and hidden meanings and >melancholy. Depends on my mood, I suppose. Tori Amos, for example, is >very straightforward in some ways, but she also hides meanings behind >seemingly offhand comments incredibly well. > >>i think this "straightforwardness" is one >>of the things that makes happy not very interesting for me.. she'll >>just >>-say- things, and it all feels far too obvious for me. > >When the emotion expressed is something I can relate to, I want it >just said. Mainly because a lot of what I look for is stuff I've never >been able to just say. > I think sublety occurs on many levels... even things like Babes in Toyland and Alanis Morissette have a transcendent sublety of sorts, in that they speak volumes to elemental feelings and deep connections, sort of like connecting directly to an archetype and becoming one with it for a moment.... and at other times Jane Siberry, Tori Amos, and others are clear as a bell, and connect like a wellspring from some sort of collective spring of thoughts. (Happy Rhodes, too!!) >Ariel - -Richard. ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@iw.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 17:38:03 -0500 Subject: #ecto lives!!! Hmmm. Six people on #ecto right now, others have flitted in and out... not bad, not bad at all. Nice seeing people there again... :-) sethra Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn, Webspinner Virtual Home: http://imho.net/~lakrahn/index.html IMHO Productions: Internet Consulting, Training, & Web Design ------------------------------ From: Vickie the Ectophile Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:38:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Victoria/Women In Rock/Alanis/Jeff/PDQ (This is all pretty much America-centric as far as I know...sorry!) I/we are going to be intensely busy the next few days but I wanted to mention some things. The Victoria Williams/They Might Be Giants appearance on TBS's "Live From the House of Blues" is going to be repeated tonight and tomorrow night (Friday and Saturday). The TV Guide lists the show as being on at 11:00pm tonight and midnight tomorrow night. (both Central time). For those with cable who get something called the "TV!" network (which is mostly a sampler station for all the other cable channels) you should tune in (or set your VCR) for 3:00am Tuesday night/Wednesday mornings (again, Central time...I'm in Chicago) for a show called "Women In Rock" hosted by a woman named Jacquie. She plays videos from all kinds of cool women, ranging from Victoria Williams ("Nature's Way") to Jewel (I saw "Who Will Save...?" on WIR long before MTV started playing it) to Jill Sobule (they play the *entire* "Supermodel" video instead of cutting the end off like MTV does) and lots of others. Nothing on TV! is listed in my TV Guide, so you'll either have to look in your cable guide if you get it, call the cable company, or just flip channels looking for it. As I said, it's a sampler station usually so one day you might see the Disney channel playing there...another day you might see Starz...or The Learning Channel or Turner Classic Movies or The Military Channel or any number of other cable channels being sampled. I don't know if The Music Zone is original programming for TV! or not. You can even e-mail Jacquie via themzone@aol.com ("Women In Rock" is just one of a series of music shows on TV! network. They're all part of a block called "The Music Zone" so be sure to say To Jacquie or To Women In Rock in the Subject Line. She says "let me know what you want to see" when she gives the e-mail address so I think we can do that. :-) (I haven't written her myself yet...no time) Alanis performed on the MTV video music awards last night so if fans see that it's being repeated you might want to tape it. I taped it (the whole show) but haven't watched it yet due to time constraints. I only taped it to get her performance but if anyone knows of any other "ecto-ish" happenings within the show, let me know. (It would be truly excruciating to watch the show in "real time" knowing that Michael Jackson *and* Mike Tyson make appearances. I guess child molesters and rapists are "in" this year. Ugh.) This is a bit late, but tonight's (Friday) ABC "In Concert" features Jeff Buckley. I recommend it highly because it's a good concert. I know, because it says in the TV Guide that the performance was "taped in Chicago" and Charley, Chris and I were at that show! I haven't gone through next week's TV Guide with a fine tooth comb yet but I did notice that on Thursday, PBS's "Evening At Pops" features none other than the Esteamed Professor Peter Schickele, P.D.Q. Bach's persistant "biographer." Don't know if it's a local or national thing, I can only speak for the Chicago area. It's on at 9:00pm on ch 11 (WTTW) and also features violinist Itzhak Perlman. (Which reminds me that I saw a full-fledged, spikey-haired punkster wearing a "Midori" t-shirt last week and I just thought that was so cool!) Vickie (back to packing...blah!) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vickie Mapes ectoMUSH irc/#ecto "My ears are lucky to hear vickie@wwa.com alt.music.ecto these glorious songs" HR _________ "Imagination sets in, then |_ _ | _ The Happy Rhodes mailing list all the voices begin" KB |__|_ ||_| ecto-request@nsmx.rutgers.edu - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Searching for Happy Rhodes reviews, articles, interviews, mentions - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #215 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu