From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #191 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 14 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 191 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Zitt" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 02:51:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Happy in my head (+ethnic minority) On 12 Aug 95 at 12:49, Michael Doyle wrote: > Has this ever happened to any of you? If so, perhaps we have another > syndrome that with EWS can be added to the list of diseases that afflict our > "ethnic minority" (I thought that choice of phrase was hilarious, Damon). I've awakened with "Runners" in my head recently, as well as Bowie's "A New Career in a New Town" (somewhat more explainable). The weirdest was a meeting a few days ag.o during the whole of which the first verse of Jabberwocky, translated into German, was looping in my head. I felt like I was trapped in the dimension between Dilbert and Dhalgren :-). - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ==== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Organizer, SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List \|| |/ Online Representative, Austin International Poetry Festival \| / Joe Zitt's Home Page\ ------------------------------ From: Mirko Bulaja Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:58:24 METDST Subject: Dune & CDs... Subject: EWS Strikes Again! Kalaleq wrote: Yesterday, Damon had nearly recovered. He was taking a sabbatical in Vancouver when the deadly disease struck again, this time in Vancouver's downtown area. Damon purchased another astounding nine CDs, bringing his total to eighteen CDs within the span of eight days. He is now recovering back home in Mission, taking the standard cure for EWS: time, and lots of listening to music. I know the prevention for EWS... But I'm sure you wouldn't want it prescribed to you :) Move to area where you get _strange_ gazes whenever you ask CD seller about something even remotely Ectoish. :( Unfortunately .hr will do ) And you think you overpaid these CD-s? :)) Here the cheapest is 20US$, Most are about 23.5$ Okay, okay, they had "Red shoes". But it was 30$ :(( Luckily I don't have CD player... I manage with taping from CD-rents :| Not nice I know... but... I need standard cure for EWS even if it hadn't have the attack :) Anyway that's not what I wanted to ramble about (just consider yourself lucky enough ;) Before I went to holidays friend & I went to buy CD for birthday present. We finished up drooling over shelves. At the end we bought him Mazzy star, and we both had it taped before CD was handed out :) Subject: Re: Dune Michael Bravo wrote: Second that. I would go as far as saying that I felt something like disgust when watching Dune - it was so .... I don't know, 2D, trivial, distasteful. I admit that I have read all the books before, and enjoyed them immensely, just I saw Dune looong time ago, and liked it very much. I was merely a kid back then, but remember that movie struck me oddly intensive. Much later I managed to read books, and loved first few ones. Later ones were... forced that's my strongest impression. And what for Bladerunner, I'm a huge fan of this movie. For my point of view, I must absolutely agree here :) And one lyrics question: Does anybody recognize this: [excerpt mode on] "Two faces have two eyes when they stand this close, .... I need two faces to sing this song ...." [excerpt mode off] Can't write much more, tape deck is not handy at the moment. P.S. Can someone mail me URL of some lyrics server (no uwp please) There used to be a good one on gopher, but it moved somewhere. Perhaps some where I can query on body of text, besides author and title... Block; who unfortunately does not suffer from acute EWS attacks. - -- | Mirko Bulaja - mbuly@student.math.hr | "What do you despise? | | PMF-Zagreb, Department of Mathematics | By this are you truly known." Dune | +---------------------------------------+-----------+ Visit my WWW homepage @ | | Claimer: Opinions stated above are NOT only mine. | "http://student.math.hr | | These opinions are of all who think alike. |/\XX/\| /~mbuly/" ^^*NEW URL*^^ | +--------------------------------------------+\/\/\/+-------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "Joseph Zitt" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:55:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Dune & CDs... On 13 Aug 95 at 16:58, Mirko Bulaja wrote: > Move to area where you get _strange_ gazes whenever you ask CD seller > about something even remotely Ectoish. :( Unfortunately .hr will do ) There's a bizarrely amusing irony to not being able to find HR in .hr :-). - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ==== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Organizer, SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List \|| |/ Online Representative, Austin International Poetry Festival \| / Joe Zitt's Home Page\ ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Dune & CDs... Hi! Mirko inquired: >Does anybody recognize this: >[excerpt mode on] >"Two faces have two eyes > when they stand this close, >.... > I need two faces to sing this song .>..." [>excerpt mode off] That would be the song "Two Faces", from the Rainbirds' third album (of the same name). Their other albums are: Rainbirds Call Me Easy, Say I'm Strong, Love Me My Way, It Ain't Wrong Two Faces In A Different Light They are a truly great band from Germany -- Katharina Franck is the founding (and only remaining original) member. Right now it's her and Ulrike Haag, and the last two albums are quite different from the first two. Personally I think their second one is their best, but everyone's mileage varies. :) Hope this helps! +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"We now return you to your regular time. Please take all of your belong- | | ings in order to avoid a paradox." -- Uncle Bob | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: geek the boy Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:08:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Ruby Blue (+ C-Cat Trance?) maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) sez: >Quite. From the liner notes of _Doctor Death's Volume 5: Heart's Lust in Limbo_: >"Ruby Blue... Origin: Edinburgh, Scotland." Their track on that compilation, >"So Unlike Me," is one of my favorites on the disc. a-yup. that track is also on _glances askances_. reminds me a whole lot of a softer, woman-fronted emerson, lake and palmer, it does. >One of my other favorite tracks on the album was by a band called C-Cat >Trance. i love that c-cat trance track as well (by the way, it's pronounced /kuh-kat/). you're one up on me in knowing another of their releases. i've always kept my eyes open for them, but i have never seen anything else by them. did you ever ask woody? woj ------------------------------ From: geek the boy Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:12:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Bjork vs. Dar vs. Jennifer Neal Copperman sez: >Since the option was to go home and pack or find something else to do, I >headed over to the 9:30 club, for a $5 Jennifer Trynin show. [...] Finally >it dawned on me that she sounded just like Casey Scott (Creep City). wow! someone else who likes that album! i love it! i'm always depressed when i see fourteen copies of it in the used bins at every store i go into. sigh. yeah, it's a goofy cover and the band looks like a bunch of fools, but they kick musically. dunno about the trynin-scott connection though. i'll have to think about that one. woj ------------------------------ From: fleur@iglou.com (Joanna Phillips) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: An early April Fools joke (part of the THIS IS NOT REAL part of Vickie's post) > Paramedics tried to revive Ms. Mapes but she was declared dead at > the scene. "It looks like she was trying to make a phone call, > possibly to 911, when she died," said paramedic Omar Sharif. Heh--I would've tried to hang on just a tiny bit longer in order to look soulfully into the eyes of that gorgeous paramedic! ;D Seriously, this heat is really scary. Our a/c went out about a week and a half ago. I had to be escorted to various a/c'd places (24-hour grocery, restaurant, bookstore) until it was safe to come home. Sorry to hear you were in a bad way, but very glad you are okay now! ::sympathetic hugs!:: - -jo- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna M. Phillips | "...And into midnight's tapestry she fades ragged fleur@iglou.com | and wild/Hunting down her ancestry in the costume fleur@genie.geis.com | of a Persian child." -- Joan Baez ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: it's not the heat, it's the music Hi! Saw the Nields again Friday night. It was an outdoor show at the Levitt pavilion in Westport, Connecticut, WASP capital of the universe. (woj, Mike Curry and I had great fun at the expense of the locals. ;> There weren't too many people there, and those who were just sort of sat there, so there wasn't a very high energy level. Plus, the sound absolutely sucked. But it was free, and all in all a fun evening, even if Sans Cherubs didn't get to play. Chuck, I guess the universe just doesn't want us to ever meet in person. :} In other news, the next three 10,000 Maniacs shows (all in New Jersey at the end of this week) have been cancelled, including the Action Park show with the Nields opening. :( It seems Dennis Drew's wife suddenly became seriously ill -- I hope she's okay. Apparently the dates will be rescheduled if they can work it out. Neile apologized: >Oops! A public apology. I usually only use this ethelred account to >receive ecto and for Ectophiles Guide stuff, but recently I've been sending >messages from it and I'm not used to that. I guess I thought the message >was to ecto--that was careless of me. Sorry!! That's okay -- I figured that's what happened. I just wanted to make sure people weren't wondering where that missing ecto post went... I know sometimes I actually miss mail (gotta love these online services :P), I'm sure it happens to other people too. >Wow--I can't hear that. Heather seems much more rock-oriented than >Sarah to me, particularly than Sarah's early stuff. I guess I don't mean that Heather and Sarah really sound *alike* per se, but there are some parallels going on there underneath the surface. I can't hear anything of Tori *anywhere* in Heather Nova's voice or music, but maybe that's just me. Calamari wondered: >Few things... does that include flamewars started by large dim- >witted invertebrates? :-) Um, I think one could find that somewhere on the list, yes... ;> Ariel posted: >Seriously, ectophillic music tends to be rather depressing anyway, I'd >noticed. Sarah McLachlan, for example, isn't exactly known for "If you're >happy and you know it, clap your hands!" Can I steal that? Thank you. :) Valerie commented: >Sounds like "It's Oh So Quiet," an old big-band tune (?) that Bjork recorded >for the latest album. She also has apparently been playing it for awhile in >her live shows. > >This is, without a doubt, the most brilliant piece of music Bjork has ever >recorded. It's perfect for Bjork's extreme style of singing, and I can only >hope to see her play it live one day. I don't know if it's the most brilliant thing Bjork's ever done, but it's certainly the most amusing. :) I gave my dad a copy of _Gling-Glo_ a while ago, and he likes it a lot -- I think it's time for me to make another tape for him with Bjork's most recent "big band"/swing forays on it. I'm sure he'd get an even bigger kick out of it than I do. Michael Doyle confessed: >Nearly every day for the past week I've been waking up and spending the >better part of the day with Happy Rhodes in my head. To be precise, with the >song "Pride" from _BtC_ in my head. I can think of a lot worse things to have floating around in your head all day. I've had some *really* bad things stuck in there for weeks at a time! >Has this ever happened to any of you? If so, perhaps we have another >syndrome that with EWS can be added to the list of diseases that afflict our >"ethnic minority" (I thought that choice of phrase was hilarious, Damon). It's happened to me on several occasions -- in particular with "Waking Up", but also with "Collective Heart", "Hold Me", the list goes on... for a while we had the alarm clock on our stereo turn a CD on in the morning, and what- ever song woke me up would be stuck in my head for the rest of the day (most notably "The Sun Does Rise" from Jah Wobble's last album). We finally decided to just have the radio turn on; there are some fine discs we just can't listen to any more, because they will always and forever remind us of 6:00 AM! %P Coming soon: Meredith gets a Web page! Stay tuned for the URL... +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"We now return you to your regular time. Please take all of your belong- | | ings in order to avoid a paradox." -- Uncle Bob | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: geek the boy Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:11:27 -0400 Subject: Re: it's not the heat, it's the music THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE sez: >Saw the Nields again Friday night. [..] Plus, the sound absolutely sucked. ayes, but it sucked in an amusing way. the levitt pavilion is an outdoor stage things. the sound system consists of two smallish speakers mounted at the center of the top of the stage. looked like there was maybe five feet between them. end result: it was like listening to a very big am radio. it was funny enough that i didn't mind (of course, it was a free show, so what do you expect for nothing?). nonetheless, it was a lot of fun. the nields keep getting better. i like all the new songs quite a bit, except for "cowards". adult alternative radio, here they come. ugh. woj ------------------------------ From: maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:15:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Ruby Blue (+ C-Cat Trance?) woj wrote: >i love that c-cat trance track as well (by the way, it's pronounced >/kuh-kat/). Really? How did you find that out? (I've been going around saying "See-Cat.") > you're one up on me in knowing another of their releases. >i've always kept my eyes open for them, but i have never seen anything >else by them. did you ever ask woody? I don't think I did and I don't think my friend who has _Play Masenko Combo_ got it through Woody either. I believe it was one of those discount bin miracles that put the disc in his hands. He obtained some info on their other releases, through a British record company -- Firebrand or Redfire or something like that. Unfortunately, the CDs were very costly and Firebrand would only take money orders in pounds sterling. So we never heard of C-Cat Trance again. - - Mike Michael Doyle maeldun@i-2000.com ========================================================================== "You can make a conspiracy out of anything, if you work hard enough at it." - - Michael J. Arbouet ------------------------------ From: pink Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 01:12:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: new cds. thoughts, ramblings and such well i finally broke down and bought some new music. lord knows i needed it, but i didn't have the money. so i just stole some change from my boyfriends dresser drawer and scrounged up enough to buy some cheap cds. i know you are interested so i am telling you :) liz phair's new juvenalia (or is it juvenilia? it is spelled differently on the cd). dissapointed with it. i already had girlysounds so there were 5 songs from the ep. there weren't even the good ones. jealousy isn't even a remix version. so really i spent $7 for two songs. i didn't even like her cover of turning japanese. so i spent $7 for the song animal girl. ah well. i still like it. should have waited to find it new, but i couldn't. i love liz. i will try to get around to submitting girlysounds to the TDP when i get around to it. catcher's MUTE. found it for $1.49 a promo. sort has a toad the wet sprocket mellow feel, except there is male and female vocals. some of the guitar work is more ethereal as well, kind like kitchens of distinction. whose last album i still need to get. i can't find it used ANYWHERE. i have no money. but the catcher's cd is well worth the money i spent. they are from ireland and the female voice sorta sounds like delores from the cranberries. maybe it is the accent. i saw them live on SOUND FX (i was really bored). not bad. wish the female would sing more. the sparks' gratuitous sax and senseless violins. sorta like erasure. got it for $1.49 as well. haven't listened to it yet, but it was recommended to me on the erasure mailing list. not exactly ecto fair but hey, let me ramble. that dog's TOTALLY CRUSHED OUT! this is more rockin' than their first album. it is released this tuesday. funny story, i was on break at work and i get an hour break. i was reading the book STONEWALL and thought it would last me the whole hour (i work at a bookstore by the way). of course 15 min into the break i discover that there are 40 pages of endnotes and citations. leaving me with 45 min to kill. i go next door find the two $1.49 cds (see above) on the sidewalk sale bin and go into to as when the new that dog cd is coming out (i saw an ad in a local paper and was totally psyched about it). renee (who was in a really cool local band named bunnygrunt-they sound like lois or heavenly only more garage-but was kicked out for personal reasons, damn bunnygrunt!) was behind the counter and i asked her when the new that dog cd was coming out as i bought the two other cd's. she told me not until tuesday. then she said, but hey do you want a promo cd? we have four of them, and i already took one home. so i got the that dog cd before anyone else for free! so i got three cd's for $3.18 or something like that!!! i love that store. so if anyone is in the st. louis area, stop by WEST END WAX and buy lost of music (they stock happy's cd's too-and one of the guys, mark, is a big time fan of ectoish music-don't know if he likes happy, but he is a major fanatic of kate, tori (who he has emphatically told me he worshipped when she first came out, but i doubt that, because who would worship tori when she released YKTR? only a fool) and sarah-who mark met and had second row center seats to when she came here with the chieftains. damn him). of course the owner is a bit of a pyschopathic bigot, but the rest of the staff is way cool. boy i could go on and on but i shan't....(everyone breathes a sigh of relief) so that was rambling big time, but the new that dog cd is cool. if you don't know them, imagine a blending of belly/throwing muses/veruca salt, camper van beethoven, and maybe a little they might be giants. some of it isn't all that great, but some of it rocks! their first album though is better. though i like the packaging of this album better. well i am sure that you want to stop reading my blather, so i shall refrain from telling my other stories, like my lovely root canal which i am still recovering from (i am immune to novacaine and other numbing agents so he had to drill without painkillers) and the horrid wedding i had to undergo, where everyone else got to bring their dates, except for me (since the bride who invited me KNOWS i am gay and have a significant other). don't get me started... love and hugs irvin who is anxiously awaiting for the new jane siberry album. ------------------------------ From: "steve (s.l.) fagg" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:14:00 +0100 Subject: re:Gentle Giant-R Lovejoy In message "Gentle Giant-R Lovejoy", 'zzkwhite@ktwu.wuacc.edu' writes: >ps: anyone out there into CARAVAN, >British soft rock from the 70's. I'm the only one I know(?)[deeplevel >soliptic systat] around here that has. Or FAMILY, not so soft. Or STRUNZ + >FARAH.??? Caravan? Yeah! :-))) "In the Land of Grey & Pink" has to be one of my favourite albums of all time, especially the track "Winter Wine". I adore the slightly jazzy feel to the extended instrumental breaks. Music I could listen to all day. I also have "For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night" on CD. Favourite Caravan song title has to be "If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You". They don't make 'em like that any more, more's the pity! Family, I liked a lot ("Bandstand" and "Streetwalkers" were important albums in my formative years) but I don't have anything on CD except one or two tracks ("Burlesque" certainly, maybe another one somewhere) on '70s compilations. Roger Chapman had a most distinctive voice. Lovely band, again a pity their like is long gone. With Strunz & Farah you've stumped me (maybe they weren't British). I'll counter by asking: HATFIELD & THE NORTH anybody? - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( s.l.fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: Michael Bravo Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:01:31 +0400 Subject: Siouxsie Hi, I've heard from a coworker, that Siouxsie and the banshees got a new album out in the beginning of this year, but he couldn't remember the name of the album. Anyone? /\/\ike PGP public key 67C4EA8EEBF67C51 fingerprint 2C8B78790C8ADCDC - --- GoldED 2.41 ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 14 Aug 95 10:03:28 EDT Subject: subscribing to lh alright... can someone here please tell mw how to subscribe to love-hounds digest? Thanks. - -mjm ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 23:21:54 EDT Subject: Lisa Gerrard's Mirror Pool Hi! Lots of stuff is happening, and the two biggest things are both things I cannot yet mention, even here - you'll all be the first to know, though, and both within the next couple of weeks, I hope. Both are Good Things. :) Meanwhile, I have in my hands a copy of Lisa Gerrard's "The Mirror Pool" album, and if this isn't one of the most unique albums of the year then I'm a Doop fan. :) Beautifually orchestrated on about half the running length, the full orchestra version of "Sanvean" (the song Lisa wrote with DCD keyboardist Andrew Claxton and which was included on "Toward The Within") is breathtaking. Yum. I'm interviewing Lisa this Wednesday evening, so if anyone has a burning question they've always wanted the answer to, mail me and it shall be asked. - - Anthony - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au http://daemon.apana.org.au/~anthony/ Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 14 Aug 95 11:21:24 EDT Subject: joan osborne I have both Blue Million Miles and Soul Show. Here are track listings: Osborne, Joan Blue Million Miles 3 13:38 His Eyes are a Blue Million Miles 04:01 Billie Listens (to Your Heartbeat) 04:41 What You Gonna Do 04:55 Osborne, Joan Soul Show: Live at Delta 88 11 52:15 Son of a Preacher Man 06:04 Fly Away 03:43 Get Up Jack 04:27 Crazy Baby 05:39 Fingerprints 04:51 Dreamin' About the Day 03:59 Help Me 06:56 Match Burn Twice 03:49 Wild World 04:48 4 Camels 04:14 Lady Madonna 03:41 As you can see there is some small overlap with relish. I would say that the CD5 is definitely worth owning whereas the live show is no big whoop - -- nothing close to Relish. It is mostly soul numbers in pretty regular arrangements. Blue Million, however, is cutting edge - at least as good as relish. I'm surprised in never made it onto an album. And it is quite a departure from the soul show stuff. - -mjm ------------------------------ From: Sam Warren Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE:Siouxsie >I've heard from a coworker, that Siouxsie and the banshees got a new album out >in the beginning of this year, but he couldn't remember the name of the album. >Anyone? It's called _The Rapture_. The single was "O Baby." Sam ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #191 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu