From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #91 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 1 May 1995 Volume 02 : Number 091 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gentle Moose Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 07:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: New Artist: Meryn Cadell On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 elisheva@netaxs.com wrote: > Hey, anyone here heard of Meryn Cadell? Just discovered her, I think > she's new. A short review of her new CD called "AngelFood for Thought": That album's actually been around for several years (I think I've had it for about 2 1/2 or 3, but I'll have to check...) She's put out another album since then, though for the life of me, I can't remember the name of it. It seems to be a bit more of a serious album in tone - the (first? certainly the most prominent/poppy) track, called 'Johnny & Betty' is about homosexuality and gay-bashing, etc, for example. (wow, I'm going to have to go dig it up - my memory's fading like mad right now). She toured with the release of that last album (I think it was last summer). She puts on a really fun show, and draws a really fun crowd. If you get the chance to see her in a small venue (ie: standing, crowding the stage, etc) DO it! She tells stories and plays with the audience, etc :) > backup band, only accapellas or sparse sound effects. She talks about > wanting to be a flight attendant, how to take a job interview, how being > in love sucks, high school girls wearing their boyfriends sweaters, etc. The sweater song got a little air play a couple of years ago (DRE in New York rings a bell). I haven't heard anything else by her on the radio, however. Ooooo! I actually saw the video for that on MTV a while back! Seemed to be a collage of images flashing by (oog, once again, the memory thing... sigh). Anyhoo, overall, she's a hell of a lot of fun, has some serious messages here and there, and is definitely worth checking out (I don't think you'll be able to find one of her albums at full price). She's sort of a light-hearted Laurie Anderson for lack of a better comparison... --Gentle Moose ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 01 May 95 10:44:56 EDT Subject: CHICAGO FLASH!Innocence Mission Out of the blue I noticed in the Reader this weekend that Innocence Mission is playing at Schuba's in Chicago on this Thu. May 4. The time listed is 9pm, but shows usually start later there. I jad no idea they were even touring. Is their new album out yet? Has anyone seen them recently? Anyone have a tour schedule? Hope to see some ectophiles there! - -mjm ------------------------------ From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:30:01 CET-1 Subject: new music Hello there, fellow ectophiles, it's about time that I write some lines again. Currently I'm a couple of weeks behind with reading my digests and unfortunately I don't see that change in the near future. So what are the news? Some of you might be interested to hear that Jewel's "Pieces of you" has been released in Germany now. Still I haven't discovered what's so special about her. Bobo In White Wooden Houses have released their 3rd album, called "Cosmic Ceiling". Bobo completely changed the setup of the band, turning from a guitar band to a keyboard band of the more technical (not quite techno) variety. It took me some effort to like the album, which I do now, but their 1st2 are *much* better (IMHO). Sad news: Heise, ex-guitarist of the band committed suicide about a month ago. Yes, there are also some good news. Most notably the arrival of "Land of the Blind"s release "One Eye", which has become my most played album of the last week. It really has all it takes: great music, voice, lyrics, instrumentation. If you haven't heard it by now, please do so. There is a good chance that you won't be disappointed. Thanks to Michael for the introduction! Yes, there's also something I want to write about Sainkho, but I can't do that in one or two paragraphs, so I make that a separate message. I don't think it has been mentioned before, so here's something for friends of Heather Nova with WWW access: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~epdouden/nova/ concerts? First, thanks to Anthony for pointing out the Ashley Maher concert. Claudia was indeed lucky to catch it. I understand that a concert review will follow soon (she's busy with her tax forms right now). Although a couple of interesting concerts have been announced for Cologne in the next months (Portishead, Laurie Anderson, Bobo In White Wooden Houses), we didn't yet manage to get tickets. A bit out of frustration we picked up tickets for Alan Parsons (feat. Chris Thompson (of MMsEB fame)) to see some of our old (but not forgotten) musical heroes. Cheers, Klaus _____ Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge take a trip on a rocket ship, baby klaus@inphobos.wupper.de the sea is the sky - Tori Amos ------------------------------ From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:34:37 CET-1 Subject: Sainkho Sainkho Thanks to Jens I'm now the owner of a CD by Sainkho. Quite an experience for your ears and brains. A woman of many voices and musical styles. That makes it difficult to pick one of her releases. Chances are that it's not what you expected. My previous contact has been with Sainkho the folk singer. I've heard one or two of her songs from the "Out of Tuva" album, which I liked very much. Unfortunately I had been unsuccessful to find that album, but Jens gave me the choice between three albums he picked up at the concert with a short description about them. Feeling adventurous, I selected the one which he described as being extreme and experimental. That was no overstatement. It's nearly impossible to have it play in the background. It grabs your attention, whirls you around, lifts you up and smashes you to the ground. Yes, it's emotionally intense, often frightening but beautifull as well. It probes you. You're often at a point where you have to decide whether to switch if off immediately or let it go on. You're wondering if she's really doing all those noises by herself or, at one piece, if someone is trying to strangle her. Try to make some of those noises (in the unlikely event that you can produce them) at a dinner party and be asured that you won't be invited again, while somebody surely calles for a doctor. Once you've listened to it, it's not an album you play on a whim. It's too disturbing if you're not prepared, so I can't imagine that many people will play this very often. Nevertheless I'm glad to have it. Cheers, Klaus _____ Klaus "Cosmic Vagabond" Kluge --*-- klaus@inphobos.wupper.de "now, now that you're here, stay with me light years" - Heather Nova ------------------------------ From: rishepp@magicnet.net (Rick Sheppard) Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 13:18:12 -0400 Subject: JJ, FL, et.al. Just some responses I felt could be shared... AmyD wrote: >Hey Rick Sheppard - good mention of Joe Jackson. Are you on the Joe Jackson >(internet) list? What did you think of "Night Music"? Thank you. I liked the quote's similarity to "Save Our Souls" and the whole speculation that maybe mankind IS sending out an SOS to whomever is out there to read it. Here's an interesting thought: what if beings from other worlds found the Vogager discs and thought that the messages WERE an SOS? Picture this: on some fine spring day, hundreds of spaceships suddenly park themselves over the Earth. Strange beings beam down and say, "Don't panic! We're here to rescue you! Please proceed in a calm and orderly fashion to the awaiting lifeboats!" Do we stay or do we go? Do we try to tell them it was a false alarm? Will we get in trouble for illiegal use of emergency channels? Only time will tell. Until then, I'll be sleeping with my bags packed under my bed... Yes, I am on the JJ mailing list. I hope to see you there! "Night Music" was and is fantastic! P.S. I hope the Indian food helped. THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE wrote: >Gack. I'm sorry -- where exactly do you live now? I am currently residing in the quaint little town of Winter Park, just northwest of Orlando. A nice looking town, but a decidedly un-ecto place to live. This is a city where LCD (Least Common Denominator for those of you playing the home game) in music and radio rules. In: Repetition and Blandness; Out: Innovation and Diversity. Anyone who cares to agree or disagree is free to contact me--I would love to be proved wrong. In fact, if there are ANY ectophiles in the Orlando area, please contact me--we can at least get together and talk about how much radio stinks down here. (point of reference: I come from South Jersey and had WXPN to listen to--those of you from the Philadelphia area will understand why I'm so damned bitter...) -rs "DEATH!" (pointing at birdbath) --Grandpa Simpson ------------------------------ From: Ethan Straffin Date: Mon, 1 May 95 11:24:49 -0700 Subject: Re: various Meredith Tarred about Melissa Ferrick: > Isn't Liz Phair on Matador? Yep, but distributed through Atlantic, or so my addled brain tells me. So she sort of counts. > It's funny -- _Massive Blur_ didn't impress me at *all*, > I could hardly get all the way through it. But I've > heard four different songs from her new one on the radio > so far, and every single one of them has made me sit up > and listen. I think I'll have to pick this one up. I think it's a much better album than her first. _Massive Blur_ had some great songs, but IMHO it suffered from a serious dropoff in quality about halfway through. I think it also showed MF sounding a bit confused about whether she wanted to be a bandleader, or a solo artist backed by a band, so that a lot of her amazing stage presence just didn't come through on the album. This time she's definitely found her voice; _Willing To Wait_ is the work of a strong songwriter who just happens to be backed by a band on about half the tracks. Ethan ------------------------------ From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Date: Mon, 1 May 95 17:28:05 EDT Subject: Life imitates music Just after leaving home this morning, I heard a nearby radio playing the Temptations' "My Girl:" "I got sunshine/On a cloudy day/When it's cold outside/I got the month of May." It soon dawned on me that the latter line was ironically appropriate, inasmuch as the high today was predicted to be only 52 away from the lake, 46 near it. My Eddie Bauer Mountain Parka was zipped up at the time. I'm not so sure about the weather page in the paper the other day, which predicted a hot, dry summer. :-) This morning, NPR had a commentary that since Labor Day is already for getting serious about work, May Day would be better used to celebrate things not so serious. Maybe it's warm where the commentator lives. Happy International Workers' Day regardless. In memory of the historic First Ward, a part of Chicago history from 1850 until today, inauguration day for the first aldermen elected under the new ward map, which moved Old Number 1 to a different area of the city. Mitch ------------------------------ From: Greg Bossert Date: Mon, 1 May 95 17:55:25 EDT Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #90 It's time for Footah Fun Facts! Footah Fave Finds of the Week: (in no particular order) * Lisa Germano, _on the way down from the Moon Palace_ * Lisa Germano, _Happiness_ * Lisa Germano, _Geek the Girl_ woj told me so, Fil (with an F) told me so, Ecto told me so, it took a anglophied bit of song in the brain to get the point across... also: * Seven Day Diary, _Fig. 6_ anyone know anything about these folks? it's a guitar-based foursome with duo female vox from Nancy Hess and Pamela Laws. this is an EP-sorta thing, somewhere in the Belly realm but a bit less fey. i liked it more than i thought. * The Golden Palominos: _Pure_ the latest installment from Anton Fier's NYC pickup group is still not up to the stunning (essential) first album. but the vox and lyrics from Lisa Carson, and the solidly strange playing from Nicky Skopelitis, Bootsy Collins, Lydia Kavanaugh, Bill Laswell, Amanda Kramer, etc. make it definitely worthwhile. Ms. Carson seems to have a new solo album out, which i expect to pick up this week... and: * Suddenly, Tammy!, performance at Vintage Vinyl (ecto lurker) Dave Steiner and i managed to make it to the most recent VV in-store appearance (we've missed the Murmers, Mildred Pierce, and a variety of other oddities in recent months). S,T! was a revelation in performance: i've always been a little iffy about their albums, but now i am hearing nuances i had previously missed -- those nuances being Jay and Ken. Beth's steady pounding pulse on the piano had previously grabbed my attention at the expense of her bandmates, and i had thus missed a lot of the rhythmic quirks. the band was just plain goofy on stage -- Beth kept daring people to take pixie sticks from the bag on her piano. (that's basically a straw filled with sugar and a vague fruit flavor, for those fortunate enough not to know.) but they were quite pleasant and much less dangerous-seeming afterwards ;) they will be touring with the Wolfgang Press in the near future, so keep your eyes open... Footah Fiery Fervour Flashback of Day: * Tribe, _Here at the Home_ (which you'll never ever find, heh heh, but go out RIGHT NOW and buy _Abort_ and _Sleeper_ and mourn with great mournliness that they've *sob* broken up and you'll never see them cover "Godzilla" live and get to talk to them (they are utter sweethearts and it's *not* true that i still worship the bottle of water that Terri left on the cafe table cuz i lost it somewhere)) um, was i gonna say something? mm, well, it'll have to wait until the end of "Vigil", which is one of my favorite songs by anyone ever... Footah Fickle Feedback: * woj comments: > the early eps [collected on _gala_ on 4AD] represent the lush i > like the most. and i, of course, agree with woj. * woj recalls: > luke stopped and talked for a while. he told us how he came to be > in sarah's band: stephen nikleva is a friend of his. stephen > couldn't tour since he was either working on veda hille's album at > the time or touring with her (i can't remember which) so he > referred sarah to luke. * and meredith replies: > Um, I thought the reason Stephen Nikleva couldn't be with Sarah's > touring band this time was because of "differences" with Sarah and > he was touring with Mae Moore anyway, and Luke is the one who > played on Veda Hille's album? (Same conversation, two different > recollections... :) and i, of course, agree with Meth. [Footah Fleeting Flashback] as woj mentioned, we were hanging around by the tour bus talking with Sarah and band (more band than Sarah, who is a goddess no doubt but a bit of a goof to talk to; i am sure it is a defensive mechanism, but the way she cocks her head and says "yeah, right on" has got to make you wonder a bit...). Anyway, the band's equipment traveled in this extraordinary, straight-out-of-star-wars white truck. a huge tractor/trailer rig, all sleek aerodynamic fiberglass and entirely spotless gleaming white. until Dave Kershaw used it as a handy writing desk to sign a poster. with a Sharpie "permanent on almost any surface" (tm). oops. ;) * Neil K.omments: > I'm not all that crazy about Lava Hay, though I have one album I > picked up at the Nettwerk garage sale a year or two ago. Not > incredibly memorable, though pleasant, guitar pop. this was my impression as well, before hearing their last (in several senses, it seems) album, _With A Picture In Mind_, which is a move away from folkish acoustic duo and towards quirky, edgy alternapop -- reminds me a lot of Suzanne Vega's _99.9F_. i'll happily recommend it. * Meth categorizes: > I think you can actually break current women's voices into three > categories, if you were so inclined: Sounds Like Kate Bush, which > includes people like Sarah and Tori and Happy; Sounds Like Juliana > Hatfield (e.g. Tanya Donnelly, sometimes Jewel); and Sounds Like > Nanci Griffith (Tish Hinojosa, and imo Beth Sorentino -- there are > times on the new album when she sounds *exactly* like Nanci). look, i remember the Blake Babies first singles, and i remember Throwing Muses first singles, and i remember everything since, and even if Tanya isn't half the group she used to be, she's surely earned the dignity of not being compared to Ms. Hatfield. (several snide comments, along the lines of Juliana licking the boots of some of her boston-area betters, like Kristen and Tanya and Janet and Terri and even Kay Hanley is doing something more interesting with the quirky, child-voiced female vox thing, suppressed)(mostly) i am disinclined to categorize voices or vocal styles, and i tend to most enjoy those vocalists who defy such attempts; heh, where did i put those Caterwaul albums, now... nonetheless, i do find that there are certain common characteristics in the vocalists i find most interesting: a wide range of pitch and tone (often indicating well developed head and chest voices), effective use of vibrato (the flat, childish alternative thing gets very tiresome very fast), general control of pitch (i don't care if they sing off pitch, as long as it sounds like they *wanted* to sing off pitch ;), and a willingness to not sound pretty all the time. i think these qualities, as well as a general love of the act of singing, are some of those distinguishing Meth's "mature" voices from others. * Amy unsettles: [account of unhappy friday morning events] i second Meth's major eeper. and Amy again proves to be an effective story-teller...! Footah Fabulous Fancy of the Month: i've been working my way through the complete collection of "The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror", the highly highly recommended anthology series from St. Martin, edited by Terri Windling (yah!) and Ellen Datlow. the editors' (highly highly recommended) introductory essays in each volume list, amongst other things, albums and musical performances with fantastic subjects or overtones. i have yet to see Happy mentioned. surely we Ectophiles can address this oversight. i believe that there are several short paths between Ecto and the aforementioned editors -- perhaps someone could send a tape or at least a recommendation? if there is a two page rave about Happy in one of the volumes i haven't read yet, then nevermind. ;) Footah Famous Fantabulous Finale: ut! - --+ greg bossert rutgers university network services +-- - --+ bossert@noc.rutgers.edu +-- - --+ http://www-ns.rutgers.edu/~bossert +-- - --+ i have never been afraid to change -- Happy +-- - --+ the circumstances of the world -- Rhodes +-- ------------------------------ From: SBI!200HUBBARD!AMYD@lmbinc.attmail.com Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 13:16:00 +0000 Subject: weekend update.. Hullo all! For all that read my eggstra long post on Friday (thanks!) I never did find out who was responsible for the broken glass and blood. It was cleaned by the time I got home from work - as if it never happened (the glass had been replaced too). :-) I think it's a sign for me to start thinking about moving back to Cow-lumbus (Columbus) Ohio! A cupala tings..... first in response to the recent Klaus - regarding singer Sainkho: >You're wondering if she's really doing all those noises by herself or, at one piece, if someone is trying to strangle her.< Sounds like the things people used to make fun of Yoko Ono about. I've always had respect for singers that stretch their voice to beyond that of conventional "singing" - i.e. Lena Lovich, Siouxsie (Sioux), and even Kate sometimes (like on "Get Out of My House"). That Sainkho album sounds interesting - I've never heard of her before. It sounds like it should be labeled with a disclaimer "Warning! Will scare the shit out of you!" ====================================================================== I just heard Aimee Mann's rendition of the 70's classic tune "One" ("...is the loneliest number..") which appears on the new Harry Nillson tribute album - I think it's called "Mad About Harry" It's pretty cool. I only heard a couple plugs for this disc, but heard interesting names listed as contributors. If there are any (other) relevant singers on it I will certainly post. (I'm planning on hitting the record stores next weekend) ===================================================================== Mitch.... I know you must have mentioned this... but WHERE do you LIVE? I could have sworn I've seen the (Happy) liquor store you mentioned. Every time you mention it it cracks me up. I think you should take a picture and send it to Sharon (Nichols). Maybe we can lure Happy to pose in front of it! (dream on......) What a picture that would be! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick (Sheppard) started the topic about categorizing female vocalists.... It's really hard to do that sometimes, especially with people like Happy and Kate because they've "grown up" in music - when they started they sounded more child-like because they WERE children more or less. Now they have a more mature sound, but can fluctuate within a given song (depending on the octave). I think there is much truth in that theory - that they either sound child-like or "mature". And there is nothing wrong with simple categorization. However, we must look at how far women have come in the last 20 years in the music industry! We can talk about shit nowdays (uh oh.... using that word twice in one post...) in music that years ago - only the "boys" (Mick & Keith, Robert Plant & Jimmy Page, etc.) could get away with. Tori would not have been able to commercially produce songs like "God" or "Icicle" without public outcry - 25 years ago. So...ultimately ... it doesn't matter that we as singers fit into little vocal stylistic categories - what really matters is that WE SING! and sing about stuff close to our hearts, not what some record company exec tells us to do (or the PMRC). Mind you, that still goes on quite often (i.e. Mariah the Screamer) but to borrow a line from an old "dance" tune "...the sisters are doin it for themselves!..." Good topic Rick! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think that's all for now *whew!* Love & chocolate! Amy ------------------------------ From: Michael K Curry Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:18:28 +0059 (EDT) Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #90 On Mon, 1 May 1995, Greg Bossert wrote: > the band was just plain goofy on stage -- Beth kept daring people > to take pixie sticks from the bag on her piano. (that's basically a > straw filled with sugar and a vague fruit flavor, for those > fortunate enough not to know.) but they were quite pleasant and > much less dangerous-seeming afterwards ;) they will be touring > with the Wolfgang Press in the near future, so keep your eyes > open... The NYC date for the Wolfgang Press/Suddenly, Tammy! tour is 5/18 at Irving Plaza. I think the Boston date is 5/23 (though I'm not sure about that). Mike *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* | Michael Curry / mcurry@world.std.com / CIS: 70372,3563 | |++++++++++++++++++++++++++++smoe+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++| | Reaching-From-Nowhere -- The Milla Mailing List | | reaching-from-nowhere-request@world.std.com | *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ From: Ethan Straffin Date: Mon, 1 May 95 16:25:12 -0700 Subject: Tribe (sniff) Greg footahs: > * Tribe, _Here at the Home_ > (which you'll never ever find, heh heh, but go out > RIGHT NOW and buy _Abort_ and _Sleeper_ and mourn with > great mournliness that they've *sob* broken up Tell me about it. :'''( Of course, if someone who had this rare out-of-print gem should just happen to submit it to the Tape Dubbing Project, or maybe just offer to make tapes of it for certain drooling desperate Tribe fanatics who would be even willing to pay him LOTS and LOTS of MONEY, the world would be that much happier a place. Hypothetically, Ethan :) ------------------------------ From: Cheri Villines Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 18:32:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: "lois"? hi all, my boyfriend said he heard a really beautiful song on the radio but was unsure about the name of the band. he *thinks* the dj said "lois". anybody have any ideas? thanks cheri ------------------------------ From: John Shepard Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:30:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Another rare yet infrequent post... I heard Happy Rhodes last night for the very first time, on World Cafe. I almost never stay up for the second hour; there are times I can't stay awake until the _first_ hour, and yesterday I was unusually tired, even for Sunday. But I'd just put the finishing touches on a story I'd been writing (I may publish it someday...) and so I just "happened" to be awake in time to hear "And Happy Rhodes will be the guest next hour." I must confess, I did _NOT_ like "Collective Heart." It just flat-out didn't work. It's like... I don't know quite how to properly slam it. It just didn't feel put together properly, as if was some... it put me in the mind of... how to put it nicely? if you can imagine the songs the children in some weird New Age church sing... I suppose, though, if "Good Enough" were the first Sarah McLachlan song I ever heard, I wouldn't be impressed either. "Oh joy, another patchwork song from a woman who sings ballads. File under Tori clones." To my disappointment, none of the songs particularly jumped out of the radio at me, the way, for instance, "Sail Across the Water" by Jane Siberry did. But aside from CH, none were bad. I especially liked the snuck-in line in the one song (forget the name): "I still remember the dream there..." followed by "If I only could, I'd make a deal with God..." A newbie's perspective: Happy has a... how to put it? Her voice is not particularly unique, but the fact that when she goes from octave to octave, her voice changes dramatically, as if into a different person, was something that caught my attention right away. I can't think of anyone to compare her low register to, but her higher notes put me in the mind of a strange transporter accident involving Kate and Tori. I will definitely put Happy on my "worth looking into" list, for whenever I get money again. :-) On Mon, 1 May 1995, Rick Sheppard wrote: > Thank you. I liked the quote's similarity to "Save Our Souls" and the > whole speculation that maybe mankind IS sending out an SOS to whomever is > out there to read it. Here's an interesting thought: what if beings from > other worlds found the Vogager discs and thought that the messages WERE an > SOS? Picture this: on some fine spring day, hundreds of spaceships > suddenly park themselves over the Earth. Strange beings beam down and say, > "Don't panic! We're here to rescue you! Please proceed in a calm and > orderly fashion to the awaiting lifeboats!" Do we stay or do we go? Do we > try to tell them it was a false alarm? Will we get in trouble for illiegal > use of emergency channels? Only time will tell. Until then, I'll be > sleeping with my bags packed under my bed... Well, think about it: if you've seen the movie Explorers, you know that our television signals are being broadcast into deep space, where (hopefully) superior intellects will receive them and attempt to interpret them. Now, to an alien civilization, the O. J. Simpson trial must look like a plea for hhelp from a dying civilization, or if not a dying one, just one that wants to be put out of its misery. Between OJ, OK, Rwanda, Bosnia, Zhirinovsky, Pat Robertson, and Microsoft, I think maybe we _do_ need rescuing! Our "false alarm" may not have been intended as such, but hey, take help where one can get it. > > "DEATH!" (pointing at birdbath) > --Grandpa Simpson "Look what happened to me without my medication!" BTW, my dad's name is Rick. Look again at my name, this becomes significant. :-) Well, enough delurked semi-pointless rambling for now (but what else would one expect from me?) I must go find other places in the building to be bored, while I debate on whether or not to actually study for my finals. (I have a good solid F in Econ, and I don't want to jeopardize it!) | John Shepard IUPU Columbus, Indiana | | The opinions expressed above are my own, and some of the facts too | | An Amiga owner and a Sarah McLachlan fan... God help me! | | "going going forgive us Lord we're going going down" -Jane Siberry | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #91 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu