Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #763 ecto, Number 763 Monday, 20 September 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: boom! Stuff Oh, and one more thing boom! revisited 100,000 Wo-mad-iacs Happy Rhodes songs performed live Chris and Joe Birthdays and PM Dawn kate promo posters..FREE!!! WOMAD report, version 19 DCD Re: deep forest? Happy B'days... Clarification Re: Baltimore City Paper and more card stuff... Re: your mail tori single 'tis a sad day... Brendan Morrison, cats from hell, attention Phillyphiles Champagne Jam, 9/19/93 ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:53:43 -0400 From: Mike Matthews Subject: Re: boom! Jeffy reminisces: >He then fired a bullet into it, which stopped the spinning platters >and changed the nature of the drive's kinetic energy drastically. Actually, he used his assault rifle, so there were many, many, many bullets. 'Twas in an issue of Current Notes, an Atari newsletter. Someone else mentioned a method, which I'm not sure was ever done or not. Pump lots o' juice into a motherboard, and watch the chips jump off. (Perhaps they were made in Mexico, by Speedy Gonzalez?) >Jeff Mike ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 14:04:32 CDT From: Subject: Stuff Yesterday's Chicago Sun-Times gave 2 1/2 stars to Big Hat's new album, _Selena at my Window_. Today's issue of the same paper gave a good review to Liz Phair 's concert over the weekend. Many people were wondering how it would turn out, because many of her previous concerts have been panned. Strange but true coincidences: The program for last week's Around the Coyote art fair states that the chairman of said event is one Jim Happy-Delpech. It may have also listed Cath Carroll as one of the headliners at one of the asso- ciated music events. (I don't remember for sure off the top of my head.) In a way, it's too bad that there wasn't a general convention of ectophiles from all over held in Chicago last week. I happened to have temporary custody of my mother's car at that time--and as fate would have it, the car is a Chevy Cavalier; so the question that started the whole car thread in these pages--to wit, how many ectophiles can ultimately be stuffed into said model--could have gotten a conclusive, empirical answer. Oh well.... :-) Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 14:08:03 CDT From: Subject: Oh, and one more thing Happy birthday to Chris and Joe. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 12:25:13 PDT From: tjshadb@ecto.sandia.gov (Troy J. Shadbolt) Subject: boom! revisited A quick lesson in the high tech way of opening an IC: 1.You need a He-Ne laser of minimum 10 ampre (that's what our little tug is). place said chip on spin platform. program laser to maximum intensisty, minimum spread and ablate. Don't try this at home, you might hurt yourself and blow a hole in the wall, and your neighbors wall, etc, etc. concerning the hard drive "tempest" test (gov't euphemism) we did a similar test with an old PDP-7 drum drive and 2 grams of plastic explosive. drive go boom! drive go SPLATTO! Mua ha ha ha ha! Troy (who has ETM/RBG/ECTO/=POISE/HR5/SOLACE in the office changer on RANDOM and making everybody miserable). ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 12:36:25 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: 100,000 Wo-mad-iacs Hi, Well at least my hearing is good :) [Says he after undergoing a complete physical exam this morning, courtesy of LBL] And that`s surprising after the 6 hours of music I listened to mostly standing up in a sold-out outdoors WOMAD festival, along with 99,999 other people. Yes, WOMAD '93 (the first of many I hope) has closed its doors. It was a wonderful experience. I will never dismiss a PM Dawn song again, and will probably never buy a Stereo MC's album as a consequence :) We (Moi + D^2+EB) arrived at the Golden Gate Park around 12 (we were hoping to be there by 11 to catch Jah Wobble and Sheila Chandra but MUNI decided that the train should stay at the Embarcadero station for 25 minutes while being completely and totally full...) and walked in to the drumming sounds of the drummers of Burundi. SLowly but surely we meandered through the crowd and reached the console setup and parked it one blanket in front of that-centerstage. PM Dawn were great, I only knew 'Set adrift in memory bliss' and was pleasantly surprised at how they sang Spandau Ballet's 'True' as an intro. I also liked most of their other songs. Hip hop with a psychedelic new-agey twist? Doesn't sound quite right, but that's the only way I can describe them. Crowded House were basically what I expected them to be. I give them credit for stirring up the crowd into wave-like motions, and encouraging the formation of human pyramids, but they should have stuck to old favourites (like 'Take the weather with you' and 'Don't dream it's over') instead of trying out new songs. Stereo MC's generally didn't please me, maybe I was just pissed off at the crowd whose density around me was increasing exponentially at this point. Although their song 'Connected' was what stuck in my brain after the show. Ziggy Marley was a pleasant surprise. He created the first true excitement when he and his band did versions of 'No Woman no cry' and 'Could you be loved' and got *everybody* moving. And that other guy wasn't bad either. PG was once again great. I was too busy trying to spot Sinead, that I didn't closely watch his moves, but in general he was in great shape. He doesn't *need* the theatrics of his Secret World tour to get a crowd excited!! Sinead was great, even though she didn't get to sing much lead. She seemed to be shy at first, and later on she smiled constantly, so she was enjoying herself. PG did 'Come talk to me', 'Quiet Steam/Steam', 'Across the river' (here Sinead outdid both PG and Shankar and added another dimension to the song), 'Shaking the tree', 'Blood of Eden', 'Solsbury hill' (which was interrupted when PG asked the band to stop playing and angrily told someone to stop what he was doing), 'Sledgehammer', and 'In your eyes'. What a great day!!! [Exhausting though] I wonder if anybody taped the PG/Sinead performance. I would *love* to have it on tape. On the other hand they were filming most of what was going on, so there might be a WOMAD video on the way (in which case the world might get to see the Ecto-T-shirt :-)]. Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 12:46:24 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Happy Rhodes songs performed live Hi, Me again... Just found out that Diane, an administrative assistant at Cheme, MIT, who loved Happy's 'Wretches gone awry' actually performed that song to a great audience responce in some place in Harvard Square. I have asked her to send me e-mail about it, and/or join ecto, so you will probably hear more about it! Just thought you'd like to know! :) Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 15:54:59 -0400 (EDT) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Chris and Joe Happy birthday Chris! Happy birthday, Joe! Happy birthday, Joe! Happy birthday, Chris! (I gave you each top billing. I have a twin sister, so I know what it's like to share birthdays!) Happy unbirthday to everyone else! Holly ======================================================================== Subject: Birthdays and PM Dawn Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:51:31 CDT From: Joe Zitt Thanks to all for the wonderful birthday messages *HUG*! I had a cool party yesterday: I live in a house with several other musicians, and we invited a lot of other musicians, too, and set up our "party rig" in my living room: several synths, mikes, effects units, and mikes, plus hookups for guitars and bass, and had some amazing jams all afternoon. I also saw some interesting alignments of people develop: one of my friends who talks nonstop met another who never says anything, and they sat together without budging for *five hours* while the talker delivered a nonstop monologue. I also kept videos running silently on the TV: "For All Mankind" (wonderful space footage) (my Ectofected fingers just typed that as "footahe"), some ambient videos that I made, and footage of the Big Thicket forests. dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) says: > PM Dawn's set > dragged in the middle but was overall very good, even if one of their > new songs did sound an AWFUL lot like "Father Figure" by George Michael. Yup: their hit "I'll Die Without You" was built on top of the groove from "Father Figure" (One of my all-time favorite songs). Our local top-40 station plays a mix of the two songs a lot. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 16:45:10 CDT From: courtney dallas Subject: kate promo posters..FREE!!! Ok everyone..i am here to make the offer of the century!!! I happened to stumble across The Red Shoes promo 8x10's ina local record store. I got them free..and want to offer the other 14 copies i have to y'all free. All i need is for you to send me $2.00 for a poster roll and postage. The firs t fourteen people to send me the moola will receive a very pretty pix of Kate i n toe shoes..with a nice pix on the back!! My address is: Courtney Dallas, 4801 Cypress Creek Ave Apt 109, Tuscaloosa AL 35405 (any other money donations above and beyond the 2.00 would be appreciated!! *g rin*) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:49:48 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: WOMAD report, version 19 Well, looks like I may as well way in with WOMAD comments too, mine from LA. I was lucky enough to arrive in time for Sheila Chandra, who was one of the highpoints of the show. I was sorry she had taped backing music, but she has a magical voice. We thought she would make an interesting addition to Sweet Honey in the Rock. Shankar 'n Caroline were surprisingely mediocre. PM Dawn put me to sleep for about 20 minutes, than rousingly woke me up with there version of hip-hop (PM Dawn is in the house). A wild turntable display gave me some understanding of what they actually do behind those set-ups, and made me appreciate it a little more. Mixing the words and the beats seemed a lot more complicated than making it go vwoopah vwoopah. John Trudell was kind of interesting, for a little while. After that, he sort of wore thin. When I liked him best, he kind of reminded me of Bruce Cockburn when he is talking over music. JT only did that, which was why I started to lose it. Stereo MC's seemed to be a big crowd favorite. I had fun on the two songs I new, and thought they had some really impressive backing vocalists, but mostly I was left cold. Crowded House didn't do too much for me either, although I liked Don't Dream It's Over. Ziggy Marley was a big surprise. He and the Melody Makers put on a fantastic show. I'd definitely consider seeing him again. And I was planning to sneak out and go to the virtual village during his set. Good thing (I think) that they closed it down before then, although bad if it was fantastic. Kind of a sad statement for Reggae music that the best thing (from a crowd point of view) that a performer can do is play a Bob Marley song. They played the two noted somewhere else, and someone else played one earlier, to an equally strong response. Peter Gabriel, well, he was Peter Gabriel. Sinead was pretty low key. Across The River (as D^2 noted) was magnificent, but that was the only time I thought Sinead stood out. Every song was great. It was nice to hear Red Rain, which he didn't play on his regular concert in San Diego. We did end in Biko though, with the Drummers of Burundi coming on afterward to close the show down, before we got to participate in the hour long drive out of the parking lot. I did get to take home that cool digging in the dirt/PG/WOMAD t-shirt, and another one that was green with petroglyphs dancing around it, and a bandana with a visor that is black with white lizards all over it. I was just confronted with a kamikaze ant, which I had been eyeing as it made it`s way across the keyboard. Kind of slows you down to be thinking, typing and watching an ant at the same time. Oddly enough, it cut across the numbers (098), cut back down the i, where I just about squashed it, and then boldly onto the k and right onto my finger. I thought such daring deserved reward, so now it must be blending in with the carpet, gearing up for another foray. Neal the merciful ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 17:27:44 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: DCD I just noticed that Dead Can Dance tickets go on sale today for the show in LA. It is on Nov 8, 8pm at Royce Hall on the UCLA campus. For all I know they may be sold out already. I will check in at Ticket Master on the way home. I'd love to get together with people in LA for the show, if anyone in LA is interested in going. Let me know, and if you let me know soon (like within an hour, yeah right), I can buy tickets together. neal ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 20:10 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Re: deep forest? > > My mom told me that there exists a soundtrack called "deep forest" > which I should look into. I haven't found it yet. Anyone have any > info about it? I wouldn't call it a soundtrack exactly. A friend of mine has it, and I plan to but a copy too. Off the top of my head, some European musicians went to Pygmy country and recorded their music. They took the tapes back, sampled them, and augmented the melodies. (?)... The result is an aurally pleasing, very different album. It seemed to do well in the dance category (!) but whatever it is it's interesting. Sounds a little like Enigma, with Pygmy motif instead of Gregorian chant. Hope you like it! Bob L. ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Happy B'days... Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 20:55:37 -0400 (EDT) ...to Chris and Joe! Bien des choses chez vous! Drewcifer ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 19:06:06 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Clarification Neal sez: > Across the River (as D^2 noted) was magnificent.. Actually, Angelos noted it. Giving credit where it's due, D^2 ======================================================================== From: snpf@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Duchess Of York) Subject: Re: Baltimore City Paper and more card stuff... Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 19:23:21 -0800 (PDT) dd > One question I have is how much info should be put on the discography? Should > we put the order numbers (or whatever they're called :) ) on it? Should we > list the prices? Listing the catalogue numbers would be very helpful. jah. -seanympf ======================================================================== From: snpf@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Duchess Of York) Subject: Re: your mail Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 19:31:10 -0800 (PDT) Actually, this is about the tori amos single. the lyrics handwritten...we get to see what her handwriting looks like! :) I really like the songs on it. The Pool, number two, is remeinisciengt (you know the werd I mean) of Orlando (sally potter/david motion) and the others are awesome...like take to the sky.....mmmmm!!!!!! -seanympf ======================================================================== From: snpf@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Duchess Of York) Subject: tori single Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 19:42:11 -0800 (PDT) > Actually, this is about the tori amos single. > the lyrics handwritten...we get to see what her handwriting > looks like! :) I really like the songs on it. The Pool, > number two, is remeinisciengt (you know the werd I mean) > of Orlando (sally potter/david motion) > and the others are awesome...like take to the sky.....mmmmm!!!!!! we don't have hr's new one yet at tower. :( I've encouraged the orderer.... (with a gun?) :0 > -seanympf > ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 21:41 EST From: Guyver-One Subject: 'tis a sad day... ...for me anyway. With school in full-full swing now I just don't have time to keep up with Ecto anymore. :( I'm sending the sign-off message to the -request address right after sending this out. I just wanted to say goodbye to everyone b/c I have really enjoyed being on this list and, as soon as I possibly can, I will sign back up. But for now, I have too much to do. If the day only had 34 or 35 hours....sigh. Thanks to everyone for making this so enjoyable!!!!!! You needn't remove me from the Ecto-Hostel. See you all soon (I hope...) bye bye.... "...I'm a scientist. I don't think, I observe." Kevin _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_\ // \\ \\ / \/ \/ \ // // "We never say, / / >< \ \ * * * \\ \\ 'who's going to get this?' ! ! ! \ \ \ ! ! ! // // we always say, * * * \ \ >< / / \\ \\ 'the right people will get this.'" \ /\ /\ / // // \\ \\_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _// \_-_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_-_/ Tom Servo on Catalina Caper: "was that the funny part?" "...yes, it's never too early to fuse your spinal cord together, in a few years these children will be addicted to painkillers, but for now little Billy is paralyzed..." -- Crow T. Robot -- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Brendan Morrison, cats from hell, attention Phillyphiles Hi! D^2 noted: }By the way, has anyone else noticed that Brendan Perry sounds an }awful lot like Neil Diamond? Actually, I thought he sounds a lot like Jim Morrison. But now that you mention it... nah. :) }A friend of mine is getting married in Maine (near Acadia) next }June. Right now I'm thinking of driving cross-country w/Emily }.. stopping at Ecto-hostels along the way. If possible, I'd }like to stop in Woodstock and take H&K out to lunch. I could }even sell tour T-shirts! It's quite a ways away yet, so don't }mark your calendars just yet. :) Time flies, my friend. :) Depending on where I am at that point in time, you are most welcome to stay with me- and I would be more than happy to give you travel tips in Maine, too- trust the natives. ;) Where exactly is the wedding? Mike said via Jeffy: }We mustn't forget about Trouble. Trouble was my family's first }cat. He wandered into our court one day, and since we had the }loudest can opener he stuck with us. Hey! One of my sister's cats is named Trouble. (I wanted to rename her Easter after she showed a tendency toward total mesmirization upon hearing Tori on the stereo- every time I put in _Little Earthquakes_ last summer she would come running from wherever she was in the house and sit in the middle of the room, staring up at the speakers until the album was over. Quite strange.) She got the name because she's a tortoiseshell polydactyl ( = double paws- it's a New England mutation in cats, whereby the front feet have extra toes, in Trouble's case two extras on each paw complete with toepads which form prehensile thumbs, which she uses as such) who summoned my sister to come rescue her from the pound through mystical means, and such a cat can only mean trouble, hence the name. She's a sweetie, though. Very tiny. Mistreated in early life, it took her a long time to come out of her shell, but now she's a great cat. }Great big 20 pound orange tabby. Perfect for snuggling, as he }pretty much morphed into whatever shape you wanted. That sounds exactly like my sister's other cat, Taminy. Are you sure you're talking about the right cats here? :) They call him the throw-pillow, too. }Well, the occasional passers-by would often wonder why were were }looking for Trouble, so that's close. :-) Imagine my mother hanging out the back door yelling for our cat when I was little: "Stupid! STOOOOOOOOOPIDDDDDDD!" Got a few interesting reactions, unfortunately rarely the desired one from the cat. }(whose dog is mature, responsible, and sensible enough to be }able to have a dish full of kibble sitting out all day every day }and still maintain her svelte, girlish figure) Hey, sir, what are you implying about females and an inate need for a svelte figure? ;) ;) ;) It's the Slim-fast you mix with the canned food, I'm sure of it. alanm mentioned: }It was the show that had the BOBS and INgrid Karklins on it. }March maybe? If anyone has a copy of this show, please e-mail. I want. :) Also, attention Philly Ectophiles! If anyone knows when tickets for Dead Can Dance on 10/30 go on sale and would be willing to pick up two for woj and myself, please e-mail one or the other of us- thanks! (If you just know when they go on sale, let us know that- we can reach Ticketslime ourselves. :) The new Dead Can Dance is wonderful. Purr.... Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:11:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Champagne Jam, 9/19/93 Hi! Hard to believe it's been four whole years since the very first show... CHAMPAGNE JAM 88.1FM, WESU-Middletown Wesleyan University Middletown, Connecticut Sunday, September 19, 1993 4:00-5:30 PM 10,000 MANIACS: "Poison In The Well" (Cool White Stare) KATE BUSH: "Big Stripey Lie" (Eat The Music CD5) MERYN CADELL: "Window of Opportunity" (Bombazine) TRIBE: "Red Rover" (Sleeper) UNREST: "Light Command" (Perfect Teeth) HAPPY RHODES: "Summer" (RhodeSongs) JANE SIBERRY: "All The Candles In The World" DEAD CAN DANCE: "Tell Me About The Forest" (Into The Labyrinth) DAVID SYLVIAN AND ROBERT FRIPP: "God's Monkey" (The First Day) STEREOLAB: "Pack Yr Romantic Mind" (Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements) BEL CANTO: "Oyster" (Birds of Passage) PRAGUE SPRING: "Another Wasted Afternoon" (A Garden of Kisses) BJORK: "Violently Happy" (Debut) HEIDI BERRY: "Washington Square" (Love) SUSAN VOELZ: "Bearer of the Torch" (13 Ribs) THE STORY: "At The Still Point" (The Angel In The House) MAZZY STAR: "Fade Into You" (So Tonight That I Might See You) MADDER ROSE: "Amnesia" (Swim) THE INNOCENCE MISSION: "Mercy" (The Innocence Mission) KATE BUSH: "Under The Ivy" (This Woman's Live Work) ... and we go into Out Loud, Wesleyan's Gay/Lesbian/Bi newsmagazine. Programming help in that last set by woj. :) Notes: The new Meryn Cadell sounds interesting- I heard bits of it on the radio the other night, and this track was quite good. It's a bit more musical than _Angel Food For Thought_, but the lyrical style is unmistakable! Stereolab wins the award for Best Album Title of the year by far. (They might be playing at Wesleyan with Unrest within the next couple months- those in the area, watch this space for details!) While I was playing the Prague Spring song the Music Director came in and tossed an extra copy of the CD in my general direction. Free music. Gotta love it. :) (Now if he'd only do the same with the _The Red Shoes_ promo tape I *know* came in a couple weeks ago...) The Susan Voelz was courtesy of woj, who bought the CD over the weekend. This track features the Cactus Cafe players (I know I'm messing up that name) on strings, with ... ta da... Ingrid Karklins on violin! (They're all from Austin, TX.) There you have it- programming for 90 minutes is hard, but the good thing is, I don't have to buy funky length tapes for my shows any more! Until we meet again... Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)