Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #758 ecto, Number 758 Thursday, 16 September 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* still a bargain EuroempTV Re: Me & IRC Getting kicked in Root C6 and other stories Re: Jeopardy Story tourdates commiserations.. Re: Keeping up?! Hiatt, Jane, Margot, and assorted ramblings. Re: Keeping up?! ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 12:46:21 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: still a bargain I think it would be amazing that such a concert as WOMAD would be only $10 too. However, unless I've been taken for a ride, the WOMAD I'm going to is $30, plus 4 bucks in charges. It does include free on- site secure parking, so maybe that accounts for the extrs 20 dollars. It's still a good deal, but 10 dollars is an amazing deal. $30 was also the mid-level price for Peter Gabriel by himself when he was here, and since that show was already worth the money, the rest of the WOMAD is a bonus. I just noticed that UCSD (about 3 blocks from my place) has the Kronos Quartet and Diamanda Galas (two seperate shows) on there schedule for next month. That could be quite interesting. All I know of Zodiac Mindwarp is that he is credited with co-writing and appearing on "Barbarian in the back of my car" by Voice of the Beehive on the Let It Bee album, that came out around the time of his moment of fame. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 13:16:13 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: EuroempTV Uli writes: >Fortunately (hopefully!) there is another music TV station emerging in >Europe, or, to be precise, in Germany. It'll be called Viva and they >want to bring live concerts, videos, old live concerts, a lot of German >music Hmmm. In Greece there were three international music channels, and about 10-15 greek ones. The international ones were MTV, Jeronymo Groovy TV (a greek rock music channel) and MCM (a french music channel featuring anything from REM to Mylene Farmer to Haris Alexiou). The greek ones showed locally produced greek music videos that were generally of poor quality both musically and visually. D^2 writes: >Well folks, it's all over. I lost. :( I'm sorry... Dennis writes: >5) 71 HR cd's? I *am * impressed! Me too!!! The most I have seen displayed were about 20 at Rasputin's. BTW, Tower in Berkeley also has RhodeSongs, FYI. Back to uncle Schrodinger, Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 15:01:17 PDT From: erik@falcon.kla.com (Erik Johnson) Subject: Re: Me & IRC |> From uli@zoodle.robin.de Thu Sep 16 12:04:44 1993 |> BTW: Does anyone here know what's the difference between the 60 and the 74 |> minute MDs? Can't be TAPE length... Maybe it's a different compression |> scheme? Then I'd only buy 60 minutes discs! |> Last I heard, it actually is a lot like tape length. :-) Instead of how thin they make the tape, it's how close together they put the servo tracks that keep the laser lined up right on the disk. Erik ______________________________________________________________________________ Erik N. Johnson Don't believe any return address KLA Instruments Corp. rumors. The one and only True San Jose, CA Address is e_johnso@kla.com. GECS d-- -p+ c+ l u+ e- m+(--)* s++/+ !n h+ f+ !g(+) w+ t@ r+@ y+(*) Fortune presents gifts not according to the book. When you expect flutes, it's whistles; When you expect whistles, it's flutes. -- Dead Can Dance ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 17:07:26 CDT From: Son of old Impala drivers Subject: Getting kicked in Root C6 and other stories Woj wojes: >hmmm. you know, there should be a support group for old impala >drivers. seems like a lot of people have impalas in their life's >closet. I'm one of 'em. Never actually drove one, but a succession of them were the family car(s) when I was a kid, including one of the inimitable 1964 Super Sport hardtop (which happened to be on sale the day my dad went car shopping; no other explanation was ever offered for that choice of model, but then again none ever needs to be for choosing that particular model). They definitely don't make 'em like that anymore. WRT Meredith's Delphi problems: One can only hope that the recent buyout of that service by Rupert Murdoch doesn't aggravate matters. WRT her yarn on the VW in the cafeteria: an object lesson in regional culture differences. In some parts of lower Manhattan, the common response to its unexpected presence would be to strip it--which a lot of others still wouldn't notice :-). WRT D**2's consolation prize: As I recollect it from my 1st trip to the bay area, abalone is tasty but pricy. It may be possible to amortize the windfall by taking up self-fishing for the stuff. Just a thought :-). I seem to have once again become a stepfather or something. Last weekend, I discovered a litter of kittens huddled out in back, and have ended up putting out kitten nuggets, making a little litter box out of cardboard, and looking forward to their first solid food, first dump, etc. One of them has taken to crying incessantly, and I'm at a loss to figure why other than none of the others seem to play with him. Anyone have ideas? I'm finding the whole thing character-building--it's inoculating me against any possibility of seduction by the blandishments of human parenthood. At least this crew doesn't wake me at 2AM for a feeding, though admittedly that wouldn't conflict with the new scheduling of _World News Now_ (which, BTW, played Laurie Anderson's "Let X=X" under one of the weather segments--is their use of Happy's music too utopian a scenario to hope for under the circumstances?). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 20:38:03 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Jeopardy David comes to the right place for comfort: > Well folks, it's all over. I lost. Pretty badly, too. I ended up with $2. ***HUG*** We still love you, and I'm still very proud of you for getting as far as you did. Very few people do. > My consolation prize was a set of fishing rods & reels. I don't fish. In trying to come up with something truly clever to do with it, I'm drawing a complete blank. Hmmm, perhaps you could give them to an orphanage or Children's Home or something. A camp for burn patients or disabled children, perhaps? > Needless to say, I'm completely demoralized. I almost immediately went > out on a shopping binge and bought a bunch of CD's: I know how *that* is! :-) > The show will be broadcast December 22. Watch it if you'd like, but, in > the words of Kate Bush, "be kind to my mistakes." Of course we will. Congratulations on trying. ***HUGS, LOTS*** Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 21:04:42 EDT From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) Subject: Story tourdates I pilfered this from rec.music.folk: ------------------------------------------ The Story FULL BAND GIGS 9/23 Northampton, MA The Iron Horse 9/24 Algonquit, ME t.b.a 9/25 Pawling, NY The Town Crier 9/26 Alexandria, VA The Birchmere 9/30 New York, NY The Bottom Line 10/1 Philadelphia, PA Theatre for the Living Arts 10/2 Somerville, MA The Somerville Theatre 10/3 Burlington, VT Metronome 10/5 Cleveland, OH Peabody's Down Under 10/6 Columbus, OH t.b.a 10/7 Ann Arbor, MI The Ark 10/8 Chicago, IL t.b.a. 10/9 Madison, WI Club de Wash 10/15 Portland, OR t.b.a. 10/16 Seattle, WA Backstage 10/17 Eugene, OR t.b.a. 10/19 Reno, NV t.b.a. 10/20 San Francisco, CA Slims's 10/21 Santa Cruz, CA t.b.a 10/22 San Diego, CA Spreckles Masonic Temple Hall 10/23 San Juan Capistrano, CA 10/24 West Hollywood, CA Troubadour 10/26 Scottsdale, AZ t.b.a. 10/27 Albuquerque, NM Sunshine Theatre 10/28 Santa Fe, NM La Luna 10/30 Denver, CO t.b.a 10/31 Boulder, CO t.b.a 11/4 Dallas, TX Chumley's 11/5 Austin, TX La Zona Rosa 11/6 Mobile, AB t.b.a 11/7 Nashville, TN t.b.a DUO GIGS 11/14 Amherst, MA The Front Room/Amherst College 11/20 Hightstown, NJ Grace Norton Rogers High School 11/21 Piermont, NY The Turning Point 12/31 Boston, MA First Night 1/7 White River Jctn., VT Briggs Opera House 1/8 S. Action, MA Congrational Church 2/12 Katonah, NY Harvey School ....Dates maked 't.b.a.' are unconfirmed and ALL of the above dates are subject to change at the slightest of notices. So, do call and confirm dates, times, reservations, etc..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 21:31:27 CDT From: courtney Subject: commiserations.. I just wanted to send my sympathies to Mitch the daddy... I am blessed in that i managed to adopt homeless cats...when they were already three or older, thus sparing myself from the traumas of kittenhood. Good luck Mitch..we are all pulling for you!!! And good for you for adopting the poor homeless waifs! Courtney...the sucker for a furry face and a runbly purrrrr... ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 22:01:47 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Keeping up?! In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9309142121.AA03017@syrinx.umd.edu>, you wrote: > I also bought Sarah Brightman's _Dive_ the same day. > That night, I gave each album 1 listen. Said listen was vaguely favorable, > but not what I was expecting. The next day when I packed for a weekend > trip to Cape May, NJ, I grabbed _Dive_ but not the FG album, for whatever > reason (I know I grabbed _Dive_ so I could make fun of her lyrics, > particularly "Johnny Wanna Live," perhaps the worst peta-esque song ever > written--makes me wanna go kill a cute furry animal and wear it on a hot > day just to spite the lyricist...). If that's the same song as the "Johnny Wanna Live" written and performed by Italian Euro-pop diva Sandra, then I sympethise, and wonder why Sarah Brightman bothered covering it. Sandra's husband, by the way, is Enigma. :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 21:57:30 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Hiatt, Jane, Margot, and assorted ramblings. In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9309141243.AA09654@ulysses.mr.ams.org>, you wrote: > Picking up the thread of Pearl Jam smashing perfectly good guitars, I > provide the lyrics in question from the new John Hiatt release: > > ... > There oughta be a law with no bail > Smash a guitar and you go to jail > With no chance for early parole > Ya don't get out until you get some soul > > Oh it breaks my heart to see those stars > Smashing a perfectly good guitar > I don't know who they think they are > Smashing a perfectly good guitar Wonderful! :-) I have new-found respect for Mr Hiatt for that. I'm going to have to buy this just to send it to my metal-obsessed brother... :) > It's been interesting to see how many more people post now that > summer's over. Also interesting to watch a flame war in action. Is not! Is too! > Kidjo). And still I get the feeling that my collection has already > gotten out of hand; like, how many things have I only listened to > twice? How do y'all keep up? Long commutes? Speaker-under-the-pillow? > How many hours a day are you plugged into music? Most of the time I'm home I have music on. But the usual practise, especially with so much music coming in, turns out to be that one album becomes glued to the CD player and constantly played, while other discs pop in for a visit as they arrive in my collection; eventually one of those discs will replace the glued-in one in its own gluey status. Currently glued (and breaking this year's record by being there for 10 days and counting!) is the Margot Smith album. Incidentally, answers from the interviews for those who care.. :) Jane: Ilka asked whether she'd be touring Germany soon. Unfortunately, the answer is no, unless the record starts selling. She is, however, coming out to Australia in February for an outdoor festival which I'd guess is the annual "Big Day Out" tour... Margot: Finally, the answer to "will her album be out overseas?" The answer is: she has no idea! But EMI still say "probably, one day". If I were you, I'd import. :) Incidentally, it's nice to do an interview and be asked questions back - but it's a bit disconcerting to be put on the spot when, after asking Margot what the next single should be from the album, she thinks for a second and asks me what I think the single should be! :-) Hey well, if "Arms Of Earth" comes out as a single you'll know whose idea it was...! Margot wanted a copy of the review of her album I did for Ecto, so I faxed it to her - with some blurb about Happy, of course! :-) She's a thoroughly nice person, by the way, and she's shorter than me, which is rare in pop stars. :-) In other news: Films and videos! (this is the "for those who care" section!) "Last Action Hero" - funny, silly, sometimes just plain stupid, but it looks great and was photographed by an Australian. 7 out of 10. "The Fugitive" - yes, I'm the last peson on Ecto to see this. Loved it, though it could have done with a bit of trimming in the latter section, as the momentum drops off too much. Extra points for Introvision's superb front projection mattes in the train derailment sequence. 8 out of 10. "The Bodyguard" - look, it just came out on video, and I'd never seen it, so I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Watchable guff, but guff nonetheless. Whitney CAN act, quel surprise. Anyone who doesn't pick whodunnit within the first half hour isn't paying attention. And who scripted that ending? Ugh. 6.5 out of 10. Records! ~~~~~~~~ "Circus" - Not Drowning, Waving Has anyone heard of this Melbourne band? This is their brand new album, their first for Mushroom after leaving first Rampant, then Warner. Hugh Jones ("Heidi Berry") produced in Wales. I just got it today, and at first listen, it sounds like the most "up" and accessible album they've done in ages. Very different from the usual NDW material, superbly recorded in Wales. "Peace Together" - Various A charity compilation put together by Island to raise money and awareness for people affected by the Britain-Ireland conflict. Some gems here, and some real stinkers. Best of the bunch is Curve and Ian Dury doing a blippy cover of the latter's song "What A Waste", Liz Fraser of the Cocteau Twins sublimely singing the title track (and you can understand the words!!!), while elsewhere we have to endure Pop Will Eat Itself positively destroying Peter Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers". "Love" - Heidi Berry Got this as Ilka recommended it over the new album. It's more subdued, and is very nice, with super-slick production by Peter Walsh, but nothing on here moves me the way "Little Fox" or "Follow" do. I like the Husker Du cover, though. At least, I assume it is a Husker Du cover... anyone? "Siamese Dream" - Smashing Pumpkins Nirvana? Pah, who needs 'em! This is the Guitar Album Of Choice this year. And they've got strings. AND they've got a better producer than Nirvana do. And just for the record, the Pumpkins used Butch Vig first, so nyaah. :-) "Bat Out Of Hell II" - Meatloaf Don't. Just don't. I got this for free and I still feel ripped off. Quite how Jim Steinman has managed to destroy "Rock And Roll Dreams Come Through", one of my fave 80's songs, is beyond comprehension. 75 minutes of bloated, overblown schlock that's 10 years out of date. Nice label, though. "Come Undone" - Duran Duran I'd just like to say that this is not only the best thing Duran Duran have done in ten years, it's also one of the best pop songs of the year. So there. "Ecto cannae take the pressure of ye rambling, Anthony! She's gonnae blow!" "Thank you, Mr Scott. Anthony out." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Keeping up?! Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 23:45:49 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Anthony sez: >If that's the same song as the "Johnny Wanna Live" written and performed by >Italian Euro-pop diva Sandra, then I sympethise, and wonder why Sarah >Brightman bothered covering it. Sandra's husband, by the way, is Enigma. :) Yep, that's the one--"songwriting" (yes, those are *definitely* sneer quotes!) credits are to Michael Cretu. I hadn't realized it was a cover. Didn't somebody else from the Enigma project (producer? engineer?) have something to do with _Dive_? (Frank Peterson, I believe) I figured that Cretu had a song on there just as a buddy-buddy sort of thing. It's really quite wretched. But an awful lot of fun if you're mean-spirited and cynical. ;-) Jeff ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)