25-Sep-91 7:16:54-GMT,961;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28594; Wed, 25 Sep 91 03:15:46 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA15165; Wed, 25 Sep 91 02:15:44 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 24 Sep 91 22:00:46 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27156; Tue, 24 Sep 91 22:00:43 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 24 Sep 91 17:32 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 91 17:32 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Got tapes from... Barry (yowsa!!) sent a suprise which affects Ectophiles, but that I can't talk about yet. You'll hear about it very soon! Doug Burks Angelos Jeanne John Relph woj I received all your packages in good shape. Thanksa mil. Vickie 25-Sep-91 7:17:53-GMT,2368;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28777; Wed, 25 Sep 91 03:17:44 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA15164; Wed, 25 Sep 91 02:15:44 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 24 Sep 91 22:00:40 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27151; Tue, 24 Sep 91 22:00:37 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 24 Sep 91 17:27 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 91 17:27 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Jumping the gun... I haven't gotten a gaffa digest since Ken St. John's retort, so I don't know what's been going on there. I did get a lot of messages last night and everyone says that I shouldn't worry, I shouldn't get so paranoid. I appreciate the soothing comments, and realize that I did over-react a bit. I just can't be casual about things like flame wars, not when it involves Happy. The only thing that I really worry about, when it comes to flame wars, is if nasty comments sway someone into *not* trying Happy. I don't really care about what people say, as much as I care about the fact that what they say affecting someone *else's* opinions. People who have heard Happy are in a position to make up their own mind. If they don't like it, fine. If they do, even finer! The biggest disappointment about the last flame war was all the people who said (on the net and via e-mail) that they now had no interest in hearing Happy, that they were sick of hearing the *name*. A few of those people expressed that opinion early, just because of all the enthusiastic posts. I'll never forget Jenn Turney's letter. Most of them came after the flame war started though. No, in the end it wasn't as bad as some flamefests, but since I was very involved, and yet was off the net at that curcial time, it was terrible for me. If I care too much, I can't help it. It's just the way I am. I'm over-sensitive, but that's one of the reasons I like Happy's music in the first place. Over-emotional is just part of my personality. What can I say? :-) I'm just a sloppy old dotty lady :-) I've just got to take my own advice and count to 10 before I post. Vickie 25-Sep-91 14:14:19-GMT,761;000000000001 Received: from rpi.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06812; Wed, 25 Sep 91 10:12:51 EDT Received: from sub.aix.rpi.edu (aix.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB29); id AA04990; Wed, 25 Sep 91 10:11:58 EDT for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: Barry D. Wong Received: by sub.aix.rpi.edu (5.61-AIX-1.2/RPI-ITS-SUB10-AIX); id AA123337; Wed, 25 Sep 91 10:11:43 -0400 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 25 Sep 91 10:11:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9109251411.AA123337@sub.aix.rpi.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Thank vickie I didn't do anything special, if your going to thank anyone, thank vickie, because she's the one whose going to do the real work, all I did was give vickie alittle encouragement and some support. Barry 25-Sep-91 19:39:18-GMT,2244;000000000001 Received: from phloem.uoregon.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18144; Wed, 25 Sep 91 15:38:33 EDT Received: from greylady.uoregon.edu by phloem.uoregon.edu (4.1/UofO NetSvc-05/01/91) id AA24260; Wed, 25 Sep 91 12:38:23 PDT Received: by greylady.uoregon.edu (5.60/SMI-4.0.1.2(JQJ)) id AA00606; Wed, 25 Sep 91 12:36:02 PDT Date: Wed, 25 Sep 91 12:36:02 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Message-Id: <9109251936.AA00606@greylady.uoregon.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Jumping the gun... I remember responding to Jenn Turney's letter saying that (memory is dim here, folks) she wasn't all that interested in trying Happy just because she had heard so much about her music already. I can't exactly remember what I said now, but I got a letter back from Jenn thanking me for my thoughtful reply, and asking if Ladyslipper might carry Happy's music. So I don't think Jenn ended up being completely turned off. In any case, it appears that the flame war some were dreading has failed to materialize. On a more positive note, I've loaned my Happy tapes to a couple that I know. Jimmy does some song-writing and guitar playing, although he seems to do mostly country music (ack). Beth is a Kate Bush fan. I tried not to say too much about Happy's music before lending them the tapes, and their reactions have been interesting. Jimmy said that Happy's voice sounds a lot like Kate's, and when it doesn't sound like Kate's it sounds like Joan Armatrading's. (I haven't ever heard Joan so I'll believe him on that one.) He also said that if it wasn't for the cover art on the tapes, he'd have probably had Happy easily pegged (although I don't know what he'd have pegged her as) after listening to the music. He was also thrown by _Off From Out From Under Me_, which he found impressive enough to mention. Last I heard he'd just listened to _Vol. I_ and _Ecto_, which I had told him was one recommended method of introduction. I'll probably visit them again soon, at least so I can recover my copy of _Rearmament_ (it's been days since I heard _For We Believe_) and I'll see if I can find out more about what Beth thinks of Happy. 26-Sep-91 17:24:26-GMT,2926;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19101; Thu, 26 Sep 91 13:23:00 EDT Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 01:22 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Happy here down under To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" Hiya people... greetings from Down Under! This is the first mailing list I've ever been a part of, and only that for the past couple of days. I've never been the sort to get into "fan clubs" and the like, but there's something about Happy Rhodes' music that makes me want to rush out and crusade about "spreading the word", as it were... I too picked up on Happy via Kate (ie rec.music.gaffa), and as yet all I have is Warpaint (yes I know I have a lot to look forward to :), but even the one measly copy I have is being put to good use. After a month or so greedily keeping it to myself (played it twice a day at least) I've been quietly introducing it to my family, friends and total strangers. My family all love it, as do most others. I brought it in to one of the major CD shops here in Perth and managed to get them to play nearly all of it over the PA ! (the manager eventually told the assistant to take it off because they had nothing to sell to enquirers - several people came to the counter to ask about it - and I was giving them Warpaint postcards... no wonder the manager was mad) Being nothing but a regular customer there, I was quite pleased to even achieve that much! I also got Phobos and Words Weren't Made for Cowards played on the local public radio station, 6RTR FM, on a show called "Soft Machine - dreamscapes for theta states", which I also felt was quite an achievement. The DJ kept my CD for two weeks ... and said he'd definitely have to get himself a copy. I've never felt quite this way about an artist before. Naturally I share other good music with friends (blues, reggae, african, new age, Kate etc) but not with such a fervour. If I had to describe Happy's music in one word, I would use "charismatic". Anyhow, enough ramblings ... just thought I'd let you know Happy is just as liked down here in Australia. (And I've still got the 4 tapes to come!) Stay Happy! Martin ,---------------------------+---------------------------------------n------. | Feel the searing heat of | Martin Dougiamas. ,-\_/ \ | | heightened conciousness. | SDOUGIAMA@cc.curtin.edu.au / | \ | | Feel the yearning for | Curtin University \ |_ / | | peace and happiness. | Perth, Western Australia. ----> x-' `_' | `====== * Happy Rhodes * ===+=======================================V======' P.S. I only use the "svodopier" account for outbound mail. P.P.S. I also play drums in a local blues band. Count me in for the Ecto followup album. :-) 26-Sep-91 22:17:58-GMT,899;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00370; Thu, 26 Sep 91 18:17:31 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA26395; Thu, 26 Sep 91 17:42:48 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:21:42 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA10533; Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:21:41 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 91 01:47 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 91 01:47 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: To David K. (sorry, e-mail bounced) I tried to write you twice and they bounced. What I said in my post about jumping the gun said it all. I'm sorry. Thanks for sticking around. Vickie 27-Sep-91 3:15:56-GMT,1058;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05968; Thu, 26 Sep 91 23:15:42 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01896; Thu, 26 Sep 91 22:16:20 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 26 Sep 91 19:50:51 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA13949; Thu, 26 Sep 91 19:50:49 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:12 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:12 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au, ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Happy here down under Martin! Thank you so much for your letter in Ecto! It's so wonderful you feel that way about Happy's music. I'm so pleased! I'm going to ll Happy later and I'll be sure to read your letter to her. I've got to rush to an appointment now, I'll write more in Ecto later... THANK YOU!!! Vickie 27-Sep-91 3:16:21-GMT,1568;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06003; Thu, 26 Sep 91 23:16:11 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01899; Thu, 26 Sep 91 22:16:22 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 26 Sep 91 19:53:42 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA13989; Thu, 26 Sep 91 19:53:40 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:28 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:28 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: HI!!! Welcome Martin! Thanks for that wonderful letter. Happy told me she had gotten an order from Australia, and was curious as to what you thought about it. I'll be sure to read your letter to her (if that's OK with you) I think it's wonderful that you've been playing Warpaint for lots of different people. You might write Happy and give her and Kevin the name and address of that radio station. Or to make it quicker, post the information in Ecto and I'll relay it to them. Kevin would probably be very pleased to send them an airplay copy. Thanks for writing. Even though you don't know anything about it, I'll include you on the Ecto SIG list and give you information about it via e-mail. Ecto is truly international, we have Americans, Canadians, English, German and Finnish Ectophiles, and now Australian. Yay! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 27-Sep-91 11:19:50-GMT,2322;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01413; Fri, 27 Sep 91 07:19:29 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04131; Fri, 27 Sep 91 06:16:12 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 27 Sep 91 03:27:16 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA18902; Fri, 27 Sep 91 03:27:14 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 27 Sep 91 02:22 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 02:22 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: OK, I did it... Vickie here. We have net access again, yay! (We were ablt to cover the check that bounced a few weeks ago..ooops) Now that we're back in Chinet's good graces, we have full Usenet access. The first thing I did was to post my FAQ (slightly altered, but not by much) in rec.music.misc and rec.music.cd so those who get the newsgroups can start your engines. I've been talking about this for months, now, it's happening. I'm not going to tell anybody *to* post, or *what* to post, but twood be nice if some of you were to throw in your own comments, yeah? Let us pique the interest of some of these new back-to-school readers. Jessica, as Ecto Goddess, you might want to throw in some comments about the mailing list, why you started it, whatever. I just wanted to let those who have access, but quit reading .misc, know I posted the FAQ. Have fun! Albert, I got your letter today. Thank you!!! Greg, I got your tape too. Thank you!!! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us ps, almost forgot, I got an e-mail letter today from someone who just bought Warpaint a few days ago. He asked me what Happy album he should get next. That's just so hard to answer. I said in my FAQ that "if you asked people on the mailing list, you'd surely get lots of different answers" and now *I'm* asking people on the mailing list. What do people think? >From your own experiences. If you got the albums piecemeal, was there an album you got later that you wish you'd heard first? I don't think we'll come up with a pat answer to put in the FAQ, but it would be interesting to gather up comments anyway. Thanks! 27-Sep-91 14:27:31-GMT,1250;000000000001 Received: from natinst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18049; Fri, 27 Sep 91 10:27:02 EDT Received: by natinst.com id AA13006 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu); Fri, 27 Sep 1991 09:27:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 09:27:00 -0500 From: Brian Bloom Message-Id: <199109271427.AA13006@natinst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy samples? Didn't someone make some sound samples for Happy's stuff. I'd be interested in hearing them as a 'try before you buy' demo. I'm contemplating buying Warpaint but would like to hear a little before I invest. I didn't see them at athos FTP, where might I get them? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com 27-Sep-91 16:20:00-GMT,677;000000000001 Received: from rpi.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02610; Fri, 27 Sep 91 12:19:09 EDT Received: from sub.aix.rpi.edu (aix.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB29); id AA19097; Fri, 27 Sep 91 12:18:14 EDT for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu From: Barry D. Wong Received: by sub.aix.rpi.edu (5.61-AIX-1.2/RPI-ITS-SUB10-AIX); id AA110303; Fri, 27 Sep 91 12:17:59 -0400 for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 12:17:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9109271617.AA110303@sub.aix.rpi.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto Goddess Hmmm, I never thought of jessica as the Ecto Goddess, but I guess your right vickie! So, all hail the ECTO GODDESS! :) Barry 27-Sep-91 17:20:34-GMT,687;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10514; Fri, 27 Sep 91 13:19:55 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac24.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA08634; Fri, 27 Sep 91 12:17:09 CDT Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 12:17:09 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9109271717.AA08634@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Happy samples? >Didn't someone make some sound samples for Happy's stuff. now don't be naggin at me, mr moo! i'll be gettin to that soon, but it's a hairy mess at my end, in more ways that one! (are you any relation to Mr Leopold Bloom, of Sensual World fame?) 27-Sep-91 17:30:18-GMT,850;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11713; Fri, 27 Sep 91 13:29:50 EDT Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1991 01:29 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Next album to get after Warpaint. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" Vickie writes: >ps, almost forgot, I got an e-mail letter today from someone who just >bought Warpaint a few days ago. He asked me what Happy album he should get >next. That's just so hard to answer. I said in my FAQ that "if you asked >people on the mailing list, you'd surely get lots of different answers" >and now *I'm* asking people on the mailing list. What do people think? But surely, if he's already heard Warpaint, the answer is obvious: All of them. 28-Sep-91 2:24:29-GMT,4452;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14518; Fri, 27 Sep 91 22:24:12 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA28251; Fri, 27 Sep 91 21:27:17 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 27 Sep 91 18:51:40 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA05457; Fri, 27 Sep 91 18:51:34 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 27 Sep 91 15:33 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 15:33 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: A post from Martin, and some answers... Vickie here. Martin sent this to me, meaning it to go to Ecto. He didn't save a copy for himself so requested that I post it....here tis: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the welcome! Vickie writes: >... post the information [of the radio station] in Ecto and I'll relay it >to them. Kevin would probably be very pleased to send them an airplay copy. The address is: 6RTR 92.1 FM Arts Radio Ltd P.O. Box 949 Nedlands, 6009. Western Australia. It's a very good commercial-free alternative radio station ... it's won quite a few national broadcasting awards... I actually did a show on it myself for a few weeks about a year ago - The Graveyard Shift 2am-4am. Hell, you got to start somewhere! :-) I also have three questions. The first is directed to Happy really, although it might be a little difficult to answer. It worries me though. Don't you think Happy's music will change as a result of her being exposed to "fandom"? I mean, with all these people offering feedback about her previous work, won't that affect the way she thinks about her own music? Secondly, what's the average profile of people in Ecto... are we all 75-year-old cello instructors like myself? And thirdly, is it an impossible dream to get Happy herself on the net? Even just for a little while? And thirdly again, what sort of music does Happy like listening to? And thirdly just one more time, has anyone got any of Kevin Bartlett's work? What's it like? Is it anything like MegaByte or Software (two German bands)? ( hope I'm not overstepping any unofficial ecto guidelines here with this big post like some huge overenthusiastic puppy...) Stay happy! .__ __. ._. .___. ._____.._.._. ._. _ | \/ | / _ \ | _ \|_. ._|| || \ | | Martin Dougiamas. ,-\_/ \ cc.curtin.edu.au / |_|__\ | |\/| || ._. || . < | | | || |\ . | Comp. Sci., Curtin Uni. \ |_|_ / |_| |_||_| |_||_|\_\ |_| |_||_| \__| Perth, Western Australia -->x-' `-' V +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Vickie here again, I just talked to Kevin and gave him the info for the Perth radio station. He and Happy were getting ready to go to a wedding (Bill the photographer!) so I didn't talk to Happy. The question about her music will become part of the EctoHomeground Questions, (Martin, we're going to be putting together an interview, part of which will appear in the Kate Bush fanzine Homeground, and the entirety will appear in Ecto) Kevin said she was finished and they just nee to get the answers back to me. i'll just ask her this question over the qhone and transcribe her answer. Martin, she listens to a lot of different music. She loves Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, early Genesis, Yes, Bach, Mouth Music, Joni Mitchell, and lots of others, but that will give you an idea. Happy and Kevin do have an account at Rutgers, but they haven't been able to use it, so no, they're not on the net. Kevin would be very involved if they ever came on board, besides being involved with Happy personally and professionally, he's also a fan! That's how they met, sort of. Happy would not be part of Ecto, I'm pretty sure. She's very, very shy. Are you really a 75 year old cello instructer? :-) Cool! I don't know what the average progfile is. Angelos will have to run another poll. For myself, I'm 35 and used to play cello in the school band! Greg, time to jump in with your thoughts about Kevin's music. You've heard more than I have. Vickie 28-Sep-91 2:24:29-GMT,4452;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14518; Fri, 27 Sep 91 22:24:12 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA28251; Fri, 27 Sep 91 21:27:17 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 27 Sep 91 18:51:40 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA05457; Fri, 27 Sep 91 18:51:34 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 27 Sep 91 15:33 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 15:33 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: A post from Martin, and some answers... Vickie here. Martin sent this to me, meaning it to go to Ecto. He didn't save a copy for himself so requested that I post it....here tis: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the welcome! Vickie writes: >... post the information [of the radio station] in Ecto and I'll relay it >to them. Kevin would probably be very pleased to send them an airplay copy. The address is: 6RTR 92.1 FM Arts Radio Ltd P.O. Box 949 Nedlands, 6009. Western Australia. It's a very good commercial-free alternative radio station ... it's won quite a few national broadcasting awards... I actually did a show on it myself for a few weeks about a year ago - The Graveyard Shift 2am-4am. Hell, you got to start somewhere! :-) I also have three questions. The first is directed to Happy really, although it might be a little difficult to answer. It worries me though. Don't you think Happy's music will change as a result of her being exposed to "fandom"? I mean, with all these people offering feedback about her previous work, won't that affect the way she thinks about her own music? Secondly, what's the average profile of people in Ecto... are we all 75-year-old cello instructors like myself? And thirdly, is it an impossible dream to get Happy herself on the net? Even just for a little while? And thirdly again, what sort of music does Happy like listening to? And thirdly just one more time, has anyone got any of Kevin Bartlett's work? What's it like? Is it anything like MegaByte or Software (two German bands)? ( hope I'm not overstepping any unofficial ecto guidelines here with this big post like some huge overenthusiastic puppy...) Stay happy! .__ __. ._. .___. ._____.._.._. ._. _ | \/ | / _ \ | _ \|_. ._|| || \ | | Martin Dougiamas. ,-\_/ \ cc.curtin.edu.au / |_|__\ | |\/| || ._. || . < | | | || |\ . | Comp. Sci., Curtin Uni. \ |_|_ / |_| |_||_| |_||_|\_\ |_| |_||_| \__| Perth, Western Australia -->x-' `-' V +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Vickie here again, I just talked to Kevin and gave him the info for the Perth radio station. He and Happy were getting ready to go to a wedding (Bill the photographer!) so I didn't talk to Happy. The question about her music will become part of the EctoHomeground Questions, (Martin, we're going to be putting together an interview, part of which will appear in the Kate Bush fanzine Homeground, and the entirety will appear in Ecto) Kevin said she was finished and they just nee to get the answers back to me. i'll just ask her this question over the qhone and transcribe her answer. Martin, she listens to a lot of different music. She loves Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, early Genesis, Yes, Bach, Mouth Music, Joni Mitchell, and lots of others, but that will give you an idea. Happy and Kevin do have an account at Rutgers, but they haven't been able to use it, so no, they're not on the net. Kevin would be very involved if they ever came on board, besides being involved with Happy personally and professionally, he's also a fan! That's how they met, sort of. Happy would not be part of Ecto, I'm pretty sure. She's very, very shy. Are you really a 75 year old cello instructer? :-) Cool! I don't know what the average progfile is. Angelos will have to run another poll. For myself, I'm 35 and used to play cello in the school band! Greg, time to jump in with your thoughts about Kevin's music. You've heard more than I have. Vickie 28-Sep-91 23:44:42-GMT,641;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04538; Sat, 28 Sep 91 19:43:52 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA04974; Sat, 28 Sep 91 19:45:53 EDT Date: Sat, 28 Sep 91 19:45:53 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9109282345.AA04974@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: interview? Howdy- Maybe I was just harried, but I don't remember the result of all of the interview-type questions people sent to this list a few moons ago. Was an interview ever done based on those questions? Peace, dNb 29-Sep-91 19:30:38-GMT,3497;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05934; Sun, 29 Sep 91 15:30:01 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04313; Sun, 29 Sep 91 14:15:50 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 29 Sep 91 09:29:56 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA05244; Sun, 29 Sep 91 09:29:54 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sun, 29 Sep 91 04:22 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Sep 91 04:22 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: EctoHomeground Interview David asks about the interview questions. Happy has them, and they are finished. I had sent H&K several disks with Ecto files, Lyrics files, Gaffa files and various misc. things (such as Angelos' HR logo, in a file of its own!) and also sent them our Amiga software (I know I know, it's a no no, but....) so they would be using the same programs (editing and communications) we do. That was an awfully long sentence. Anyway, I also gave them our login and password for Chinet to allow them to mail the EHI file back to me. It seemed to be a much easier way than for Happy to wrap the disk up and snail-mail it to me. They tried to e-mail it tonight but there was a problem we haven't figured out. Chris is out of town and will be back later today, so he'll be able to troubleshoot their problem better than I could. TGlitch... The answer is that I'm hours away from reading Happy's answers to all the questions you all asked. I'm so excited! Martin, I read Happy your question over the phone and she added it to the end of the file, so it will also be answered (the one about will "fandom" affect Happy's music) and posted soon. "Feed The Fire" is still #1 at WXPN in Philadelphia!!!! **8 weeks now!!** H&K got a tape of a couple of WXPN guys talking about Warpaint on the air. One guy said that, though FTF was a good song, some of the others were "sophmoric"! I'll have to transcribe the exact quote. Pffft! Bill Demichele's wedding was wonderful, according to Happy. She said the bride was so beautiful. For new Ectophiles, Bill took the photo of Happy that's on Warpaint. Bill married the woman who did the barcodes. Oh, that reminds me, everyone now has a really, no kidding, bona fide collector's item. Those who have Warpaint, anyway. They just got the second run of Warpaints and they all have bar codes printed on the CD itself. I wish I'd had the money to get a few Warpaint earlier. It's small and somewhat silly ("collector's items") but hey, why not? If Kate can have a "Sensual World bathrobe" Happy can have a non bar-coded CD as a collector's item :-) Greg, Kevin sends a cryptic message..."practising typing and looking up big, impressive words" is all he'd say. H&K have hired a drummer for their touring band. I'll get details tomorrow, but according to Happy he's *very* well respected around the Albany music scene. They have put an ad in the Metroland (free Albany paper) for a backup singer. Female. It will be very hard to find the right person. Most of the backing vocals are the very high vocals, and they're not going to have an easy time finding someone who sings the same kind of highs as Happy. I said "too bad Kate's not free" :-) :-) and Happy laughed. Closer & closer to touring.... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 29-Sep-91 20:48:54-GMT,1330;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12221; Sun, 29 Sep 91 16:48:39 EDT Received: by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA26600; Sun, 29 Sep 91 15:45:52 CDT From: barger@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9109292045.AA26600@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> Subject: Am I hallucinatin? To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 29 Sep 91 15:45:51 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL13] It's Sunday afternoon and I'm watching "MTV International" on our Hispanic channel 44. (I'm starved for music videos-- a new alternative-video show has whetted my appetite.) Anyway, they announce a video by Mecano called "La 7 de Septiembre" (the 7th of Sept, obviously-- does that mean something?). The video is in the style of Lang's Metropolis, and the music I guess sounded kind of like Queen, but the singer's face appears-- a seriously anemic Annie Lennox look-- and her vices comes _piping_ in so unexpectedly I laughed. But it was kinda cool, and I listened closer, and I thought it sounded Kate-like, and I thought I must be kidding myself... and then she did the drumbeats-thing with her arms, from the beginning of SiyL. Standing up, with real drums... but it's gotta be a tribute! The Hispanic Kate?!?!?!? Tell me I'm hallucinating before I post this to gaffa! 30-Sep-91 1:24:40-GMT,657;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04704; Sun, 29 Sep 91 21:24:14 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.18) id AA24410; Sun, 29 Sep 91 21:24:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 91 21:24:10 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109300124.AA24410@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Hispanic Kate?!?!?!? jorn pleads: > Tell me I'm hallucinating before I post this to gaffa! ok, sure, jorn: you're hallucinating! now, go post on .gaffa... (boy, jorn sure is easy to please!) footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "if love is a game, i win..." -- Happy Rhodes P.S. ;-} 30-Sep-91 6:25:18-GMT,35363;000000000401 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07743; Mon, 30 Sep 91 02:24:41 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA03929; Mon, 30 Sep 91 02:15:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 30 Sep 91 00:57:40 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA15033; Mon, 30 Sep 91 00:57:38 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 30 Sep 91 00:53 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 00:54 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ****** HERE IT IS!!!!! ****** (*very* long!) Vickie here. Well, here is the *raw* question/answer sheet, exactly as it was sent to Happy. The questions aren't in any particular order. I took the liberty of reworking and adding to some of them, so, many of the questions you asked were toyed with a bit. For instance, whenever someone said something like "Does Happy...would Happy...will Happy...?" I changed it to "Do you...would you...will you?" to make her feel more at home with the questions. I'd like feedback (remember, this is a group effort) on what to include in the Homeground interview. Obviously, not everything will fit, and Homeground readers won't be interested in all the data that's here. So, Kate fans, pretend you never heard of Happy Rhodes, you picked up a Homeground and saw an interview. What of these questions would interest you? If you feel a question should be reworked to "fit" the answers better, do it. I don't think anyone will mind if you rearrange their question. For instance, we may feel (I know I do) that Happy's music has come straight down from Heaven, but Homeground's readers won't know that :-) so that kind of thing will be edited. I will, of course, post a semi-final version for feedback, before it actually gets sent to Homeground. I still have to work on the intro to the interview. E-mail is OK, but posting is better, just because it is a group effort. Everyone should know what everyone else thinks and is doing. In Homeground, the names of the questioners will not be given, of course. "Ecto-the Happy Rhodes computer mailing list" will get the credit. You want to know how many disks I saved this on? I lost count...:-) Here goes...... ============================================================================= Jeff Abbott: Is Happy your real name, or a family nickname? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The story of how I got my name has varied over the years. I've told different people different stories because some folks just don't want to accept my perspective on the matter. Well, here is the actual truth. I was born at Vassar Hospital in Poughkeepsie, N.Y. I was named Kimberley Tyler Rhodes. "Kimberley," after the Kimberley Diamond Mines that Cecil Rhodes discovered, and "Tyler", after Mary Tyler Moore, who was a good friend of my mother's when she was dancing with the New York City Ballet Company. However, the first time my brothers saw me, was when I was a day or two old, and still in the hospital. My brother Mark, could not pronounce the name "Kimberley", and I was an especially happy baby, so he decided it would be easier to call me "Happy". From that moment on, my family members never used the name Kimberley. I was forced, however, to use my "given" name while attending school. As soon as I turned sixteen, my name was legally changed to Happy Tyler Rhodes. As far as I'm concerned, it's the only name I've ever had. When people ask if it's my real name, I always say "yes". HR Mitch Pravitiner: Submissions for the questions-for-Happy project: Was the fully-named Happy Tyler Rhodes, perchance, named in honor of Happy Hotpoint, the elf character in the Hotpoint appliance commercials of the Fifties, which happened to be Mary Tyler Moore's first significant role on television? In the alternate, might she have been named for Happy Rockefeller, the first lady of New York State in the Sixties? (Only in Albany, methinks, could a baby girl run such a risk :-).) --------------------------------------------- Well Mitch, I guess I just answered that one. HR ============================================================================ David N. Blank: Out of curiosity, will you ever tour live, or will you follow in Kate Bush's footsteps to date (ie. one tour in her entire career, and that one is Europe only)? --------------------------------------------- Kevin and I are currently auditioning players for a limited live tour. I'm certain that performing live will be a large part of my musical livelihood. I don't plan on ever being a large arena artist, and the performances won't be overly frequent, but I enjoy it too much not to do it. In terms of the near future, we plan on hitting only those cities where the radio airplay is heavy enough to attract enough interest for a live show. HR ============================================================================ David N. Blank: 1) What are your influences? 2) Favorite artists? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The biggest influence in my life was my father. Unfortunately, I had to grow up without my mother, but she had a good deal of influence on me when I got older. My father was a painter. He taught me what creativity was. He also had an intense love of music. He showed me respect for ALL life forms and he inspired me to dream big. My favorite artists are (in no particular order) Jon Anderson and (Yes), Queen, Sting, Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Bryan Ferry, and more recently, Martin Swan of Mouth Music. There are more, but these are the people whose albums I would run out to buy. HR ============================================================================ Angelos: I noticed that some of the synth patterns in your songs (see Alice arise for example) have a repetitive simplistic structure reminiscent of Philip Glass. Are you a fan of his music? --------------------------------------------- I wouldn't say I was a fan, and I certainly never had him in mind while composing, but I am fond of some of his work. HR ============================================================================ Jorn Barger: Why are you holding your fingers like that on the cover of Warpaint? --------------------------------------------- Crazy Glue accident. The photograph shows me painting my face with ficticious warpaint, as is done in Indian ceremonies before a battle. HR ============================================================================ Jeff Abbott: Re: The flurry of Happytalk on rec.music.gaffa and subsequent flame war. It's nearly impossible to explain to someone about the net that they shouldn't take such things personally, and that these irrelevant little-minded flame wars sprout up all the time (I mean in groups, not just gaffa). You should try to look on the bright side; you now have your own mailing list, no small shakes for an artist without a record contract. What do you think about all that went on (good and bad) in gaffa? --------------------------------------------- Hmmmm..........I didn't neccesarily take the negative responses personally, but I nevertheless felt badly about the ill will being flung about. All in all, I am honored to have received such attention and I'll never forget what you've all done for my music. HR ============================================================================ Klaus Kluge: My opinion about putting the 4 tapes on CD: Yeah, thats great! I'd like to see them on CD. What is the status? --------------------------------------------- Hi Klaus, Sag mir alle die Plane, die du fur das kommende leben hast...... Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond? That probably made no sense at all, but I try. We're not concentrating on the back-catalog just yet, but it's a definite plan. Even if the funds were available, we wouldn't have the time or energy to put into it right now. We're busy with radio, retail, and working out a live show to support Warpaint. I've also started work on the next album, so our hands are full for the time being. HR ============================================================================ Klaus Kluge: Do you like to read, and what are you reading now? Favorite authors? Books? 'Phobos' and 'Wrong Century' gave me the impression that you're into reading SF. --------------------------------------------- I do like to read science fiction. In fact, I read little else. I'm currently reading two books........Journeys Out of the Body, by Robert Monroe,(not SF, but as close to it as you can get) and the other is My Father Immortal, by Michael Weaver. I don't think I'm well enough read to actually have favorite authors yet, although Frank Herbert never disappointed me. My favorite books are not science fiction, but most people would consider them to be. HR ============================================================================ If everything works out, you should soon be painting your first book cover, a science fiction novel. How did that come about and what are your thoughts about getting into this new venture? --------------------------------------------- This came about when Michael Weaver asked me if I'd be interested in doing the cover for his next book. He liked what he had seen of my work. I was flattered and not altogether sure if I could do it. I don't actually think I have any place doing the cover art of a published SF novel. There are so many brilliant artists out there, who are more capable of the task than I am. I had considered it as a career, at one point in my life, but music seems to be the dominant force at play here. If the Art Department at Avon Publishing House approves me, it will be an exciting challenge and I'll do my best, but it probably won't become a habit. HR ============================================================================= Gregory Bossert: Are there more monster paintings? When did you start painting? What is your favorite medium to work in? Oils, watercolors etc. Do you like painting and drawing more/less/as much as writing music? There ARE other gruesome looking critters lurking around the premises here. I started painting when I was about 14. My father was the catalyst. The reason I started painting monsters was because I didn't have to follow any rules, such as anatomical proportion. I always hated "rules" in art. I don't exclusively paint monsters anymore, but I'll never do a landscape. I prefer to use oils, but acrylics have their advantages sometimes. I love to create with a canvas, but honestly, a painting has never evoked the kind of feelings in me, that music can. HR Klaus: Were you inspired by the paintings of _H.R._ Giger? --------------------------------------------- Indeed. Not only that, but two of my favorite movies are "Alien" and "Aliens". HR ============================================================================= Gregory Bossert: What kind of equipment do you and Kevin use? (i.e. synths, computers sequencers, etc.) --------------------------------------------- A tech question? O.K.......In our home studio, we use a Korg M1, Korg T3, Korg DW-8000, (no, Korg isn't paying us), Juno 106,(analog lives still),a Roland Octapad 2, occasionally we dust off the Sequential Circuits Six-Traks and Tom Drum machine and the Oberheim Cyclone. We have an Amiga computer and the sequencer we use is Dr. T's KCS V3.5. We have two Alesis Quadraverbs for effects, and a Soundcraft 200SR mixer. I didn't include the noise reduction units or tape decks... that might get boring. When we go to the other studio to do the actual recording, there's more equipment involved. HR ============================================================================= Klaus: I noticed that "Phobos" goes into "Wrong Century" and between all the other songs there is a noticeable silence, so I'm sure it's on purpose. Did you have a specific intention in mind? Is there a connection between these two songs? --------------------------------------------- We did this purely for audio-asthetics. There is no connection between the two songs otherwise. HR ============================================================================= Klaus Kluge: Re: "Words Weren't Made For Cowards" "Are you dancing dead, maybe walking toast." What does "walking toast" mean? --------------------------------------------- In America, there is a term used for those who've done too many drugs in their time...."Toast." I wasn't specifically addressing former drug- addicts in the song, just people whose brains are comparable. HR ============================================================================= Jessica: I really want to know what you say towards the end of terra incognita. --------------------------------------------- You're so sweet and kind, but I still won't tell you. HR ============================================================================= Angelos: I would love to hear a remixed extended dance version of WRONG CENTURY!!! Any chance? --------------------------------------------- I suppose if someone can do a dance remix of Queen's "Bicycle Race," then anything is possible. HR ============================================================================= Jeff Burka: What inspired or brought about the titles to "Box H.A.P." and "Project 499"? --------------------------------------------- Unfortunately, the lack of better ideas. "Box H.A.P." is meant to be the address to which I'd send a letter to myself, and "Project 499" is what my engineer replied when I asked rhetorically, "What shall I call this one?" HR ============================================================================ Jorn Barger: Happy, your melodies and harmonies so often seem to have come straight down from heaven. Do you hear music in your head all the time? How do you keep from losing your best ideas, if you don't read music? Have you gotten any of your melodies from dreams? --------------------------------------------- Thank you Jorn. I heard the violin line from "Lay Me Down" in my head days before I wrote the song, but usually the music comes precisely at the time when I'm ready for it (when I'm sitting at the keyboard or with the guitar). I like to think that if an idea is lost, then it wasn't des- tined to be my best. I don't RECALL getting any of my melodies from dreams, but then, RECALL is the operative word here. HR ============================================================================= David N. Blank: Any duets forseen in the near future? --------------------------------------------- If Mel Torme will have me. Seriously, the circumstances would have to be just right for me to agree to something like that......and the artist, someone I admire. HR --------------------------------------------- What were your SAT scores? Tell us about your schooling. --------------------------------------------- I left school when I was 16, at the start of eleventh grade. I never took my SAT's. I left because it was the right thing for me to do at the time. I was very unpopular in school, and I had my sights set on music. I got my G.E.D. the following year, in case I ever decided to torture myself with those kinds of social pressures again, and go to college. I'm not ashamed of my limited education,....and I doent think it afekted my abilaty too cumunikayt at al. HR ============================================================================= Tom: If/when you do decide to tour and give us a chance to see you, will you do it with a full backup band, or would you concentrate on guitar and vocals? Any chance you'll make it out here to the west coast? --------------------------------------------- I will have a full backup band. I will most likely do a couple of songs with just the guitar and my voice, but not a whole show. My main problem right now is finding someone who can manage most of my backing vocals. There aren't alot of singers out there who are willing to take a professional back-seat to someone else, and who can blame them? The west coast may very well be off of our list for the first tour, as our airplay seems to be heavier elsewhere. It's too expensive to travel that far for just a couple of shows. Perhaps that will change. HR --------------------------------------------- Have you considered covering some of Kate's stuff? How do you feel about the constant comparison or your voice and hers? --------------------------------------------- I'm not convinced that Kate's material would even be interesting if someone else were to sing it. Her material stands fine on its own, of course, but it just wouldn't be special....do you agree? I think someone should ask Kate how SHE feels to have my voice compared to hers. That would be interesting! I personally, would much rather be compared to Kate than say, Belinda Carlisle. HR ============================================================================ Kirstin Hargie: Happy: All of your songs seem to be partly if not wholly autobiographical - did you think in your childhood that you could create such emotion laden songs with a power that can strike a deep chord in those who listen?? --------------------------------------------- Certainly not. All I knew as a child, was that I wanted to be respected. I knew I wanted to be a performer, but the notion of music didn't come until later. I'm thrilled that people can get something out of my music. I have to attribute that to integrity and honesty. I've found that people aren't really as different as they sometimes seem. We all have joy and tragedy in our lives. So it only follows, that if I write something from my heart and stay true to myself, others will easily identify. HR --------------------------------------------- Do you write your songs as a kind of catharsis of the past so as to say 'hey this is where I've been, look at me now.' Or do you write them to maybe let people that didnt go through the same types of experiences know what another persons world is like? --------------------------------------------- I don't think an artist ever creates anything with an ulterior motive. The point is usually to filter whatever you're feeling through your craft. It is, then, a catharsis, but not necessarily intended for anyone but yourself...at least initially. HR --------------------------------------------- I know that I have very powerful dreams that sometimes cloud my vision of reality i.e. I occasionally confuse the dream world with the real world - is this something that you are trying to illustrate in Dreams Are....is it something that happens to you?? --------------------------------------------- In "Dreams Are...", I'm speaking of my aspirations, more than my literal dreams. We live in a nation where children are encouraged to shoot for careers that offer "stability." I've known alot of people who wound up becoming doctors and accountants, when all they ever REALLY wanted to be was a pilot, or a dancer. I decided at a young age, that my dreams (aspir- ations) would be my reality. You're talking about something completely different, and certainly no less interesting. Maybe you're not "confusing" anything, Kiri. HR --------------------------------------------- A lot of your songs carry a somewhat anti-'normal' society message - what do you think of this great big (piggish) world we live in - or is it just a dream?? --------------------------------------------- I think it makes me very sad sometimes, but as far as living in a physical world goes, it's definitely not boring. HR --------------------------------------------- How often do you feed your cats? --------------------------------------------- Depends on how many stray homeless people wander by in the course of a day. Actually, I don't keep track. They do, however. HR --------------------------------------------- Do your songs hold any personal statements against society besides being against the constrictions of the societal norm, do you blame society for the inherent evil (if you believe in that kind of evil) in the world. --------------------------------------------- I'm sure I'll always be writing songs dealing with my distaste for the standards society has set. Truly,the only judgement I have is for people who don't THINK things through on their own. As long as we're all willing to take at face value everything our government officials and advertisers have to say, then there's going to be injustice, insecurity, greed and "evil." I'll always have faith, that one day, people will give up their places in the comfort zone of apathy and go out and make change. I admire the folks who are already out there. HR --------------------------------------------- Did you ever want to be a teacher?? --------------------------------------------- Yup. Teachers are very similar to artists and politicians. We all delude ourselves into thinking we have something important to say and a new twist on how to say it. HR --------------------------------------------- Your songs often pack a lot of fascinating, mystical, spooky material into a 4 or so min. package of brillance. Do you purposefully write with the intention of capturing the attention of those people that share a kindred spirit, are you trying to teach those "normal" people something out of the ordinary - i.e. to appreciate what's odd in the world?? --------------------------------------------- I think I'm merely provoking thought. Granted, some people don't want to think when they're listening to music........they're the ones who are out there buying up all of the Paula Abdul albums. HR --------------------------------------------- With five albums under your belt what is your next big goal?? --------------------------------------------- Another album. HR --------------------------------------------- When can we expect the next H.R. production?? --------------------------------------------- I'm going to say next Fall......or perhaps Spring. HR --------------------------------------------- What do you think of your status as the "holy ghost" of musicians?? What do you think of your cult-like following?? --------------------------------------------- The "Holy Ghost" ........truly the coolest place to be in the Trinity. "Cult-like following" may be a little exaggerated, but the fact that you can all (meet) this many different, interesting people through the common bond of music,....is magic. HR ============================================================================ Gregory Bossert: Here are some questions for the Happy/Homeground interview. I've tried not to duplicate questions others have posted, and tried to address topics of interest to KaTefans (though that's a wide and varied category!). I'm afraid the style is a bit dry... the final interview should probably have more conversational, fleshed-out questions (e.g. "you're one of the most original songwriters/ performers around -- so what's you're favorite snack food?" or, "your voice could send a hardened account executive tripping about in terpsichorean delight -- how many chairs do you own?") er, anyway: what instruments do you play? have you had any formal training on any of them? what instrument(s) would you like to learn how to play? --------------------------------------------- The instrument I'm most proficient on, is acoustic guitar, but I will also play keyboards, bass, percussion and anything else, if there isn't someone else available to do it. I've had no formal musical training to speak of. I'm sure eventually I'll try out a wind instrument and maybe cello. No small challenge. HR --------------------------------------------- how long have you been singing (professionally and otherwise...)? what is your "range"? many of your songs feature complex overdubbed vocal parts; how do you come up with these arrangements? if you could sing with anyone, who would it be? --------------------------------------------- I probably started singing because of Bach. When I was little, my father used to play a particular J.S. Bach album quite often. It was a challenge for me to try to sing along with all of the notes I was hearing. Later on, at around 13 or so, I started experimenting with vibrato. My professional singing career began with my first album. I honestly don't know what my range is. If I had been formally trained in music, I'm sure that would be different. I treat all of my backing vocals as I would instruments. If an arrangement needs something, more often than not, I'll use my voice to fill the void. Given my admiration for certain vocalists, I'd probably feel inadequately equipped to sing WITH anyone of stature, but my choices would be Sting, David Bowie, Peter Gabriel, Jon Anderson or maybe Roger Taylor of Queen. HR --------------------------------------------- how do you write songs? do you sit down with a guitar, or at a keyboard, or just walk around humming? do you come up with words or music first? do you find writing songs easy or difficult? how many songs have you written, and how many have not been released? --------------------------------------------- Sometimes I have a "feel" in my head. Just as "The Rhythm of the Heat," by Gabriel has a "feel." That's what I try to capture when I sit down at the keyboard,(rarely guitar anymore). Other than that, I usually don't have any idea what a song is destined to be. It just happens. I write the music first most of the time, and get it onto tape. Then I listen. More often than not, the subject matter and subsequent lyrics just pop into my head. I guess whatever the music makes me feel, dictates what the song will be about. It's effortless for me to write music, but not always so to actualize it. I've probably written close to 100 songs. 88 of which have been recorded. There are 23 songs in existence, that were recorded, but never released. And for very good reasons. HR --------------------------------------------- your arrangement tend to mix elements from many musical styles (you've been to compared to everyone from Kate Bush to Joni Mitchel to the Legendary Pink Dots); how do you decide which instruments and sounds to use for a particular song? do you develop your own synthesizer sounds? do you spend a lot of time working on the sounds/effects while recording, or do you concentrate more on the performances? (or both -- it's kind of a silly question...) --------------------------------------------- I don't spend hours looking for just the right sound. My main goal initially, is to get the parts down and worry about the sounds later. I usually can just tell what instrument will be most complimentary in a certain part, and get as close to it as I can. Later, when co-producer Kevin Bartlett and I get together to polish the songs, we take more time getting the perfect sounds. He's more meticulous when it comes to sounds and instrumentation, so I'm lucky to be working with him. Kevin and I both like to develop our own sounds. We have keyboards that have incredible factory presets and we like to take advantage of them, but alot of them have been over-used in recordings, so it benefits us to make our own. When I was recording the material for my first four albums, it wasn't appar- ent that other people would be hearing them. I cared more about the perfor- mance aspect. On "Warpaint" however, Kevin and I took great care in selecting sounds and effects. I personally spent hours getting the right effects for all of my different voices. This is rather new for me and it's a continual learning process. HR --------------------------------------------- how do you go about recording your music? how much work do you do at home? when you work with other musicians, do you write out parts for them, or is it more of a collaborative effort? --------------------------------------------- The bulk of the work is done at home. I write and structure the song, and get it as close to completion as I can. Then Kevin steps in and together, we go over the song with a fine-toothed comb. He adds whatever he thinks is missing and polishes up the tracks I've already laid down. We then take the computer and keyboards to the other studio and lay the tracks down onto tape, straight from the computer. Next, we do any live overdubs that are neccesary. Noone ever knows what the vocals will be like until I do them.......including myself sometimes. They're the last thing to go down on tape before we mix. My experience with other musicians is limited thus far. If I have specific lines for someone to play, I'll put it on tape for them to learn. Usually, however, a person has alot of room to play whatever they feel. If I confine a player to a specific part, it's usually just one particular melody line that only happens occasionally in the song. HR --------------------------------------------- the production on "Warpaint" is much more complex than on your past albums. did the extra resources (musicians/better equipment/ editing) change the way you wrote and arranged songs? will your (many!) future albums continue to grow more eloborate, production- wise? do you enjoy playing with musical gadgets and technology? --------------------------------------------- I think having access to better equipment allowed me to do the things I'd always wanted to do on the previous four albums. My writing didn't neccesa- rily change, though. When I did the earlier albums, I only owned one key- board and a guitar. That meant that I'd be forced to stop at a certain point in the orchestration, whether I wanted to or not. My songs never turned out the way I knew they COULD sound. This was an endless source of frustration for me. I was being categorized as "folk" because of the acoustic guitar and overall sparse arrangements. I always knew that I was as far from "folk" as a person could be. I suppose more elaborately produced albums will be a natural progression for me, but certainly not a goal. The musical content is still the most important factor. I don't get all goofy over new and upcoming technical gadgets. If you put one in my hands, chances are I'll enjoy using it. I'm not afraid of modern technology, and seem to have adequate user-skills, but you won't hear me talking about the latest equipment at parties, and you won't see me in the music store every week, looking for "new" stuff to trade my week-old keyboards in for. HR --------------------------------------------- do you have plans for (or interest in) producing a video? which song would you choose, and what would the video be like? --------------------------------------------- I'm very interested in producing videos, although I've no specific plans. It's too early to tell if a video is warranted for "Warpaint," the album, but I might be inclined to choose the tracks, "Words Weren't Made for Cowards," and "Warpaint," the title cut. I think any videos I do, will have to "feel" like the songs they accompany. You probably won't be seeing any glamour models in lingerie or choreographed dance routines. HR ========================================================================== Klaus Kluge: Which of your own albums do you like best? I know that many artists will always point to the latest release for promotional reasons. Not that I think that you are one of them, but I'm also more interested to get your answer from a different point of view. Try to answer it not from the artists view, but through the eyes and ears of Happy, the music lover. Which of your albums would you like most if they were by somebody else (a strange question, I know)? Can you take that remote viewpoint? --------------------------------------------- I've always said that if I were hearing Happy Rhodes for the first time, and the album was "Rhodes Vol.1" or "II," I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The same really goes for "Rearmament" and "Ecto." There are qualities that I would appreciate, but none of those albums would ever be enough to capture me. I don't mean that to be self-effacing. I just know that the qualities I look for in other artists, are not present in my first four albums. "Warpaint," on the other hand, harbors a few of those qualities, so it's the obvious choice to date. HR ============================================================================ Just a last minute answer to Martin's question; Being TOO aware of other people's opinions of one's music, COULD have an effect on how one writes in the future. However, I'd like to think I'm smart enough to know that I'll never please everyone. The only logical thing to do is please myself, and hope for the best. HR Well, that's all folks.........It's been great fun and I thank you all for your support. It's meant the world to me. The Hap-ster ============================================================================ ============================================================================ 30-Sep-91 17:32:35-GMT,3052;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08891; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:31:00 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA04465; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:31:49 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA00630; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:26:11 MDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:26:11 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109301726.AA00630@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Stuffed with stuff Greetings, It's time to clear my dusty closet of short Happy notes. * In _The Revelation_, the lyric sheet says that indistinct word is "Mikey". Is this another of Happy's monsters? (Or does it refer to that little kid who ate the Life cereal foisted on him by his brothers. "Give it to Mikey. He'll eat anything!" (a line destined to become the punchline for a number of dirty jokes.)) By the way, do the monsters on Happy's first four (or should that be first two?) album covers have names? * I found two minor typos in the lyrics for _Don't Want to Hear It_ from _Ecto: The Album_. In the fourteenth line (if I counted right), 'exausted' was too exhausted to hold onto its 'h'. In the twenty-sixth line, 'elswhere' left its second 'e' elsewhere. However, don't feel too bad, anonymous typist (our ubiquitous Vickie?), I found four in the lyric sheet in the _Warpaint_ CD. Since no _Warpaint_ lyric sheet has appeared on athos yet (at least, since I last looked) and since we have no power to change the actual _Warpaint_ sheet (do we?), I'll leave you the fun of tracking them down. Collect all four! Sorry, no hints! * While on the subject of lyric sheets, what was the person (Vickie again?) ingesting when they typed up the lyrics from the second side of _Volume II_? Love those little extras (even if those kitties look like they just sucked on an especially sour lemon :-) (Oh, the wonders of ASCII graphics))! * The more I listen to Happy, the more I love her deep voice. I know this verges on treason for those dragged in by the resemblance Happy's high register to KaTe's and to those bemoaning the missing high parts on _Warpaint_. However, I love it. Its popping out of nowhere on _If Love Is a Game, I Win_ gives me delightful chills! * Has anyone else had the song _Monsters and Angels_ by Voice of the Beehive buzzing (sorry! (However, _they_ named their albums _Let It Bee_ and _Honey Lingers_)) around their head recently. Addictive! (Happy content? Nothing really, though Happy and monsters seem to go together :-) ). There are monsters. There are angels. There's a peacefulness and a rage inside us all. There is sugar, and there is salt. There is ice and there is fire in every single heart. There are monsters. There are angels. 30-Sep-91 17:33:03-GMT,3236;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09126; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:32:26 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA04503; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:33:16 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA00637; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:27:37 MDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:27:37 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109301727.AA00637@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Stuffed with stuff [Sorry about the repost. Forgot my signature last time.] Greetings, It's time to clear my dusty closet of short Happy notes. * In _The Revelation_, the lyric sheet says that indistinct word is "Mikey". Is this another of Happy's monsters? (Or does it refer to that little kid who ate the Life cereal foisted on him by his brothers. "Give it to Mikey. He'll eat anything!" (a line destined to become the punchline for a number of dirty jokes.)) By the way, do the monsters on Happy's first four (or should that be first two?) album covers have names? * I found two minor typos in the lyrics for _Don't Want to Hear It_ from _Ecto: The Album_. In the fourteenth line (if I counted right), 'exausted' was too exhausted to hold onto its 'h'. In the twenty-sixth line, 'elswhere' left its second 'e' elsewhere. However, don't feel too bad, anonymous typist (our ubiquitous Vickie?), I found four in the lyric sheet in the _Warpaint_ CD. Since no _Warpaint_ lyric sheet has appeared on athos yet (at least, since I last looked) and since we have no power to change the actual _Warpaint_ sheet (do we?), I'll leave you the fun of tracking them down. Collect all four! Sorry, no hints! * While on the subject of lyric sheets, what was the person (Vickie again?) ingesting when they typed up the lyrics from the second side of _Volume II_? Love those little extras (even if those kitties look like they just sucked on an especially sour lemon :-) (Oh, the wonders of ASCII graphics))! * The more I listen to Happy, the more I love her deep voice. I know this verges on treason for those dragged in by the resemblance Happy's high register to KaTe's and to those bemoaning the missing high parts on _Warpaint_. However, I love it. Its popping out of nowhere on _If Love Is a Game, I Win_ gives me delightful chills! * Has anyone else had the song _Monsters and Angels_ by Voice of the Beehive buzzing (sorry! (However, _they_ named their albums _Let It Bee_ and _Honey Lingers_)) around their head recently. Addictive! (Happy content? Nothing really, though Happy and monsters seem to go together :-) ). Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! There are monsters. There are angels. There's a peacefulness and a rage inside us all. There is sugar, and there is salt. There is ice and there is fire in every single heart. There are monsters. There are angels. 30-Sep-91 17:33:56-GMT,3108;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09233; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:33:09 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA04517; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:33:58 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA00643; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:28:19 MDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:28:19 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109301728.AA00643@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Second album Greetings, Which album should someone buy after _Warpaint_? Well, there are several ways one could answer the question. * Buy them all. Happy's work passed the Lay's potato chip test. Betcha can't listen to just one! I couldn't. * Poll everyone and rank the favorites (which seems to be the current method). My contribution is: _Volume II_, _Rearmament_, _Ecto: The Album_, and _Volume I_. Warning: This list is subject to change, especially _Ecto: The Album_, which I still can't focus on its lyrics or music without its carrying me away. * Follow the order in which Happy recorded the albums: _Volume I_, _Volume II_, _Rearmament_, and _Ecto: The Album_. My suggestion is the latter, because her albums have a natural progression to them (and because it gives me the excuse to describe that progression, something I planned to post in the future anyway). The lyrics of Happy's album seem to parallel her personal struggles. _Volume I_ finds Happy trying out her wings, her first attempts to put her personal miseries into song and onto tape. By _Volume II_, she has a firm hold on her muse and crafts powerfully emotional songs from the depths of her darkness. Some sun is shining on _Rearmament_, as she takes her first steps out of her hole, fearful of what is behind and uncertain about what is ahead. _Ecto: The Album_ finds her standing fully outside hole, bound and determined to face reality, though fully conscious of her past. I am close to declaring that these are really just one four-disk (well, tape) album anyway. Someday I should try to listen to them that way. (Gee, over three straight hours of Happy. What a way to go!) My thoughts about the evolution of her music are much more ill-formed, and thus still little more than first (well, third, by now) impressions. Her first album is surprisingly high quality for a debut. Her melodies and music improve noticeably on _Volume II_ and _Rearmament_, highlighted by some wild and wildly successful vocal harmonizing with herself. _Ecto: The Album_'s music strikes me as much simpler, calmer, quieter, even subdued. And _Warpaint_? Well, I do have some opinions, but I'll save them for another post. As for the original question, I wouldn't fret the question too much. Just take your pick. You can't go wrong. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! But music hides me so well, and reveals me, oh well. 30-Sep-91 17:34:01-GMT,2853;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09282; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:33:31 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA04533; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:34:24 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA00648; Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:28:46 MDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 11:28:46 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109301728.AA00648@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ode Greetings, Somewhere down the road, I intend to present my opinions of each of Happy's albums and a number of her songs. However, once again, a song shoved its way to the fore and forced me to write something right away. (So blame Happy, not me, if you don't like this post :-) ). Note to self: Doug, Take the song _Ode_ (from _Ecto: The Album_), put it alone on a tape, and listen to it first thing each morning. Print the lyrics from the song, post them on the wall above your bed and desk, and read them regularly. Frequent application will keep you sane. (Well, I'm not sure about the lines: "Never cry because you're lonely / Your love will always be around the bend". Not in my life, of course, unless it takes a hell of a long time to get around that bend. (Oops, how did that slip out? (Has anyone noticed how talking about Happy seems to bring out things that the speaker probably doesn't want out? Jon Drukman's posted review of Happy was the most revealing thing he's ever put on .gaffa. (Gee, how many parentheses do I need now?)))) Peace, yourself. Note to Ecto: the Mailing List: Has anyone else been struck by the similarity in tone and even phrasing of _Ode_ to the Desiderata. For those who have never heard of it, the Desiderata is an anonmyously written list of requirements for a good moral life, found on a church wall in the distant past (1840's?). It has aged amazingly well and lacks the corniness or obviousness of usual attempts at this. If you've neither heard nor seen it, it's worth keeping an eye out for, (if only for comparison to _Ode_ :-) ). If enough people are interested, I'd even be willing to post it. Les Crane recorded a spoken version in 1970 (Anyone else remember that?) and had a big enough hit for National Lampoon to make a parody. (The parody _Deteriorata_ is not only probably easier to find these days than the original, but is notable for a then unknown Melissa Manchester singing backing vocals). I still have a copy of the original poorly recorded off the radio. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! And never cry because you feel unloved That's what your arms are for Wrap them around yourself 30-Sep-91 19:20:45-GMT,3244;000000000011 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25519; Mon, 30 Sep 91 15:17:06 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA06732; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:17:53 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA01282; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:12:11 MDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:12:11 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109301912.AA01282@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Warpaint typos Greetings, [Gee, four posts in one day! What's Vickie's record anyway? :-) ] John Relph was kind enough to send me the _Warpaint_ lyrics he compiled from those posted to Ecto: The Mailing List roughly a month ago. (You mean someone actually is encouraging my typo hunting?!) I was just too lazy to put them all together. Maybe we can chase the typos away before it's put on athos. Of the four typos I spotted in the CD lyric sheet, two were questioned by the typists, one was silently corrected, and one was missed. First, the four 'original' typos: * In _Waking Up_, 'seering' should be 'searing' without a doubt. In fact, Daniel, our Australian Ectophile, had it right in his signature. (It's amazing was grep-ing will turn up!) * In _Wrong Century_, 'peacful' in the second to last line has a too peaceful second 'e'. (Caught (or at least, corrected) by Jeff). * In _All Things_, an extra 's' exists in 'exsists' in the thirteenth line, both originally and electronically. * In _Warpaint_, I also wondered about 'gravesight'. However, I finally convinced myself that it should be 'gravesite'. (Any contrary opinions?) Of course, transcription introduces its own errors, and I found these new ones. * In the sixth line of _Feed the Fire_, 'luck' was unlucky to lose its final 'y'. * In the last line of the second to last stanza of _Feed the Fire_, your 'you' lost its final 'r'. * In the twelvth line of _Phobos_, 'cloads' got a little clouded (should be 'clouds', if I am getting too clever for my own good). * In the eighteenth line of _Wrong Century_, 'spokky' should be 'spooky'-er. * In the first line of the last stanza of _Wrong Century_, 'mout' should be 'me out'. [This one almost sounds like a network error, though it shows up in both the original post and the copy John sent me]. * The third stanza of _Warpaint_ must be cursed. In addition to the 'gravesight' typo, 'rining' needs to ring in another 'g' in the sixth line of the stanza, and 'tombostone' need to put that middle 'o' under a tombstone. I hope that everyone realizes I am not criticizing anyone's work here. I appreciate the effort the typists put in for their song or two. I just like to see the lyrics as correct as possible. Anyone programming computers for as long as I have appreciates the havoc simple typos can create. Stomp 'em out!! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! Yeah, that'll show him. 30-Sep-91 19:20:45-GMT,3244;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25519; Mon, 30 Sep 91 15:17:06 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA06732; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:17:53 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA01282; Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:12:11 MDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:12:11 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109301912.AA01282@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Warpaint typos Greetings, [Gee, four posts in one day! What's Vickie's record anyway? :-) ] John Relph was kind enough to send me the _Warpaint_ lyrics he compiled from those posted to Ecto: The Mailing List roughly a month ago. (You mean someone actually is encouraging my typo hunting?!) I was just too lazy to put them all together. Maybe we can chase the typos away before it's put on athos. Of the four typos I spotted in the CD lyric sheet, two were questioned by the typists, one was silently corrected, and one was missed. First, the four 'original' typos: * In _Waking Up_, 'seering' should be 'searing' without a doubt. In fact, Daniel, our Australian Ectophile, had it right in his signature. (It's amazing was grep-ing will turn up!) * In _Wrong Century_, 'peacful' in the second to last line has a too peaceful second 'e'. (Caught (or at least, corrected) by Jeff). * In _All Things_, an extra 's' exists in 'exsists' in the thirteenth line, both originally and electronically. * In _Warpaint_, I also wondered about 'gravesight'. However, I finally convinced myself that it should be 'gravesite'. (Any contrary opinions?) Of course, transcription introduces its own errors, and I found these new ones. * In the sixth line of _Feed the Fire_, 'luck' was unlucky to lose its final 'y'. * In the last line of the second to last stanza of _Feed the Fire_, your 'you' lost its final 'r'. * In the twelvth line of _Phobos_, 'cloads' got a little clouded (should be 'clouds', if I am getting too clever for my own good). * In the eighteenth line of _Wrong Century_, 'spokky' should be 'spooky'-er. * In the first line of the last stanza of _Wrong Century_, 'mout' should be 'me out'. [This one almost sounds like a network error, though it shows up in both the original post and the copy John sent me]. * The third stanza of _Warpaint_ must be cursed. In addition to the 'gravesight' typo, 'rining' needs to ring in another 'g' in the sixth line of the stanza, and 'tombostone' need to put that middle 'o' under a tombstone. I hope that everyone realizes I am not criticizing anyone's work here. I appreciate the effort the typists put in for their song or two. I just like to see the lyrics as correct as possible. Anyone programming computers for as long as I have appreciates the havoc simple typos can create. Stomp 'em out!! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! Yeah, that'll show him. 30-Sep-91 21:10:23-GMT,986;000000000001 Received: from romulus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11215; Mon, 30 Sep 91 17:09:13 EDT Received: by romulus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20190; Mon, 30 Sep 91 17:09:08 EDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 17:09:08 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9109302109.AA20190@romulus.rutgers.edu> Organization: adopt a haiku foundation To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: voice of the beehive yeah - i heard the new album a week or so back and decided that i wanted to wait a while before buying it. it's too soft (i think that one of the singers fell in love) and lyrically is a wasteland compared to the witt- iness of _let it bee_. a few good songs - the cover of the partridge classic "i think i love you" and "adonis blue" is catchy and the fourth tracks, the title of which escapes me. but the rest is flabby compared to the wonderfulness of _let it bee_. woj@remus.rutgers.edu - smou/dj-for-hire - cutting out a silouette of dreams 1-Oct-91 2:28:11-GMT,2034;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21186; Mon, 30 Sep 91 22:27:48 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28927; Mon, 30 Sep 91 22:27:46 EDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 22:27:45 EDT From: jessica To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: kevin's music. Message-Id: meant this to go to ecto: about kevin's music: Greg made a tape for me - 4 of the songs on it are from kevin's "breadfeet" and "7", and well, I absolutely love them! I didn't really have any expectations - greg had described it as "nice - good to drive to" :) It's nothing like Happy's music of course - there aren't lyrics (though there are "words" in a way sometiems :) It's just music growing and evolving - the more i listen to the songs the more i hear in them. One song can go on for a long time and different things keep being added, in places it reminds of philip glass, although i find it a LOT less boring than most of philip glass is to me (I LOVE koyaanisquatsi (sp?) but the rest of his music ends up making me tense .. wel, that i've heard anywya, i can't claim to have heard much of it) anyway, i find that kevin's music reminds me a bit of that, only it's much richer, i love the different sounds he chooses and how he combines them, it's fun stuff to listen to. I haven't had a chance to listen to the full albums yet (though i will soon) but those 4 songs have really stuck in my head pretty well. jessica oh yeah, i ought to mention that the titles of the songs are great too :) blue guys in the phrase buffer - one of my favorites jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 1-Oct-91 2:37:47-GMT,829;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21945; Mon, 30 Sep 91 22:37:38 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29066; Mon, 30 Sep 91 22:37:35 EDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 22:37:35 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9110010237.AA29066@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: happy says: "My main problem right now is finding someone who can manage most of my backing vocals. There aren't alot of singers out there who are willing to take a professional back-seat to someone else, and who can blame them?" NOT ME! ack, i'd take a back seat to happy *any*day* just to be able to be a part of making music with her, wow! i'm not in school this semester.. i could just .. quit my job... ack, don't even get me thinking :) jessica 1-Oct-91 3:03:39-GMT,1147;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25201; Mon, 30 Sep 91 23:03:04 EDT Message-Id: <9110010303.AA25201@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 30-SEP-1991 22:59:04.01 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: The search is on... To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Hi! Wow- Happy's answers to those neat questions were, well... neat. :) As for her looking for a backup singer, we all know KaTe is busy, so she really does have a search on her hands, doesn't she? :) Hmmm... I have a friend who could deal with the lower ranges beautifully, but not the higher stuff... since I guess the higher stuff is what Happy wants covered, I guess I can't have my friend help her out there! (Maybe we should ask around for people who can do KaTe justice in the shower and give Happy their numbers! :) ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 1-Oct-91 3:21:32-GMT,967;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27323; Mon, 30 Sep 91 23:21:22 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29680; Mon, 30 Sep 91 23:21:16 EDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 91 23:21:15 EDT From: jessica To: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Warpaint typos In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 30 Sep 91 13:12:11 MDT Message-Id: Oh, i certainly wouldn't take any of your corrections as a criticism! If anything thankyou *very* much for the corrections! || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes ||