16-Sep-91 9:25:49-GMT,1392;000000000001 Received: from [146.101.100.10] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26021; Mon, 16 Sep 91 05:25:16 EDT Received: from storax.bnr.co.uk by hedera.bnr.co.uk with Internal SMTP (PP) id <19910916092404-0@hedera.bnr.co.uk>; Mon, 16 Sep 1991 10:24:05 +0100 Received: from ash.bnr.co.uk on storax.bnr.co.uk over SMTP (5.61++/UK-2.1-MX(storax)); Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:24:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:24:00 +0100 Message-Id: <0094eb974c31f06d@ash.bnr.co.uk> From: Steve Fagg Subject: Nice one, Centurian! To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu X-Vms-Mail-To: ECTO Regarding the last line of my signature, justin@bond.crim.ca wrote: > Assuming you want to say `Don't speak to me of life': > You mean `Noli' rather than `Nole'. The pronoun `me' should be in the > dative, hence `mihi'. Simply putting `vitae' in the genitive is probably > not sufficient; I would use a prepositional phrase `de vita'. The verb > `dicere' also seems inappropriate (you want something like `loqui' instead, > I would think). Warning, this is off the top of my head and may not be > entirely reliable... Does this mean I have to write it out correctly a hundred times??? -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** Vita? Nole me vitae dicere! *** 16-Sep-91 10:22:47-GMT,1451;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03715; Mon, 16 Sep 91 06:22:29 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA06655; Mon, 16 Sep 91 12:18:33 +0200 Message-Id: <9109161019.AA26991@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: favoUrite covers Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 12:19:10 N From: Klaus Kluge After I've mentioned favourite (it's about time to use the 'u' to show that I'm closer to Britain than to the States :) covers, and Vickie wrote about hers, I can't keep quiet about mine. I am sure that when I have a closer look at my collection I will come up with a different selection, but out of my head I remember that I once put only 3 covers in a frame to stick at the wall. Those were: KaTe Bush: The Dreaming (what a surprise) KaTe Bush: Running up the hill (12", KaTe with bow) DEVO: Duty now for the future (very simple b/w diagram) My favourite (I've done it again :) cover from Happy is that of Ecto. ____________________________________________________________________ | | Klaus Kluge | | Now I will believe That there are unicorns. | (Unicornuus Marinus) | | (W. Shakespeare - The Tempest III.3) | kkluge@Materna.DE | 16-Sep-91 14:48:42-GMT,2186;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26447; Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:48:23 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA10274; Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:15:41 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 16 Sep 91 07:59:07 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA10665; Mon, 16 Sep 91 07:59:06 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 16 Sep 91 07:26 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 07:26 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: More Re: Ecto SIG Vickie here. I've pretty much determined that the SIG won't be any longer than 100 minutes so I'm going to change my request. Those who can find 100 minute long tapes, please send one of them. If you can't find one (some places still don't carry them) how about just sending a couple of bucks and I'll buy one for you. If you've already put 2 90 minutes in the mail, I'll keep one of them and send the other one back to you. I'll still buy you a 100 min. tape. Confusing? Sorry, I don't want this to become complicated, and I should have worked out details before I posted anything at all I suppose, but now that I've come to the 100 minutes decision (90 minutes is just not enough time), I wanted to post as soon as possible. Some places don't carry 100 minute tapes, but do carry 110 minute tapes. I'd rather have one of those than 2 90s, because it would be easier to decide where to "cut" at the place where you'd have to turn the tape over to listen to the other side. I want the cut to be at the same place on everyone's tape. Besides, 1 tape would be easier for you to carry around and keep track of than 2. So, a 100 or a 110 audio cassette is the ticket! Ohhh, I hope you like it, because I'm going to have a great time doing the show! Welcome to Dan Riley, David Lubkin, Sammy Tao, David Koehler and Stephen Thomas!!! Sorry we lost Jeff Abbott, Larry Spence, Robert Cole and Dave Michaels :-( Later... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 16-Sep-91 18:37:23-GMT,2859;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22686; Mon, 16 Sep 91 14:36:31 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA16686; Mon, 16 Sep 91 12:37:27 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA00859; Mon, 16 Sep 91 12:32:06 MDT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 12:32:06 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109161832.AA00859@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: More albums Greetings, Anyone who saw my Desert Island Discs posts in gaffa (or even my message of last week) knows my dim opinions about favorite albums, but I can't resist throwing another wrench into the compilation. How about these three albums? _Willy and the Poor Boys_ -- Creedence Clearwater Revival. The best album by Creedence, though six of their seven are excellent. (Avoid _Mardi Gras_). The songs display a wide range in both music and subject matter, from a street corner instrumental (_Poorboy Shuffle_) through an angry political statement (_Fortunate Son_) through ballads covering different interesting subjects. Vintage Creedence. _The Doors_ -- the Doors. Maybe the most impressive debut by a group or artist I know of. I love every song on this album (except for the Oedipal (is that a word?) mess of _The End_). _Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables_ -- the Dead Kennedys. I didn't expect any punk albums to appear on the list, but why not add one! Jello Biafra's lyrics are occasionally lost in the punk and his own bellowing, but worth following. Most of the songs are a rare savaging of the Politically Correct before savaging the Politically Correct became Politically Correct, hell, even before it was named. _Holiday in Cambodia_ and _California Uber Alles_ ["The suede demon secret police/ Are here to take your uncool niece"] are brilliant. Guaranteed to clear any sized room of people within minutes, maybe even seconds! These are just three albums from a long list of my favorites. Try them if you haven't. Obligatory Happy stuff (but since when the lack of that ever stopped me): I'm going through Happy's album one more time (third or fourth time), and am finally able to concentrate more on the lyrics. I'll be posting impressions before too long. (I know I've said that before, but, this time, for sure!) Let's just say, I couldn't believe my appreciation of her music could get much higher. It has! [I can't believe my little old mailing address is the longest on the list!!] Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! "Oh, pooh on you!" -- hr 16-Sep-91 21:01:36-GMT,1067;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09930; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:01:10 EDT Message-Id: <9109162101.AA09930@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 16-SEP-1991 16:55:42.52 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Re: PGs deutsches stuff To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Hi! I didn't know "Hier kommt der Flut" even existed- is it maybe a b-side of something? While we're semi-on the subject, Bowie's German version of "Heroes" ("Helden"), is available on Rykodisc's Steal This Disc Sampler #3. There's some other awesome stuff on there (22 tracks in all, providing over 70 minutes of listening enjoyment), but it's worth it just for that, I think... :) WAY off-topic, I know, but I just thought I'd mention it... ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 16-Sep-91 21:08:36-GMT,1123;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11051; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:08:27 EDT Message-Id: <9109162108.AA11051@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 16-SEP-1991 16:59:54.72 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Fave covers... To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Hi again... Now you all have me thinking about my favorite album covers. My Top 5: _The Dreaming_ (Kate) _The Whole Story_ (Kate) _Foxtrot_ (Genesis) _It'll End In Tears_ (This Mortal Coil) _MCMXC_ (Enigma) -- I'm into Medieval stuff, I have a right! :) BTW, I haven't seen but one Happy album cover, but I must say "Warpaint" is a neat picture. I had no clue what she looked like before yesterday, and I must say she's sort of what I'd pictured... which is strange, seeing as I'm usually totally off! ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 16-Sep-91 21:11:16-GMT,549;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11342; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:10:55 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA26189; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:10:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:10:50 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109162110.AA26189@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: 6 weeks! Cc: ~p@gte.com i have it from authoritive sources that "Feed the Fire" is in its *sixth* week as the #1 most requested song at some station in philidelphia. yes, strange but t 16-Sep-91 21:13:05-GMT,467;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11595; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:12:40 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA26289; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:12:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:12:33 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109162112.AA26289@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: sorry! hmm, if you just got a garbled message, sorry 'bout that. if you didn't, sorry for this. -greg 16-Sep-91 21:17:05-GMT,708;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12181; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:16:35 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA26565; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:16:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:16:27 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109162116.AA26565@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PGs deutsches stuff > Bowie's German version of "Heroes" ("Helden"), > is available on Rykodisc's Steal This Disc Sampler #3. and also on the Rykodisc Bowie boxset, _Sound and Vision_. (which is an example of a *good* boxset...) hey, anyone see love-hounds/.gaffa today? looks like it's suspended again... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com 16-Sep-91 21:23:09-GMT,2777;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13066; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:22:55 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17811; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:22:53 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:22:53 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9109162122.AA17811@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: happy of course :) Well, I drove 5 hours in the rain and traffic to see mouth music, and it WAS WORTH IT! for many reasons :) The show itself was fantastic. They were lively and there was just no way you could sit still. Greg and .marc were there, and another love-hound, i don't know his name though (he was at the boston katemas party). Meredith, wait 'til you see a color normal picture of happy! I mean, she's recognizable from the picture on warpaint, but she is *so* pretty in person, much prettier than the picture shows! Of course, it generally looks nicer when a person is smiling :) She told me they *had* sent a negative - I am still waiting for it.. unfortunately they sent it to my work address, that means it has to go through rutgers mail - always adds at least 2-3 days onto anything. Kevin was very excited to meet greg :) that was neat :) happy was her relatively shy self - much more noticable with other people around than it was when i first met them. A neat thing happened - Mouth Music had done a show in dallas - while they were there at a radio station, someone played some of Happy's music for them, and they loved it!! They thought it was a fantastic and wonderful cooincidence that she was at their last show and they got to meet her!! Kevin gave them a Warpaint CD in exchange for one of maire mcguinness (do i have that right? something to that effect) solo CDs. I still haven't quite recovered from seeing Happy and Kevin again. they are both so wonderful!! I will be at my grandparents house for the weekend of the 27/28th, and of course my grandmother still wants to meet happy, so i invited them to come out - they're not sure, happy defnitely didn't seem to want to commit to anything. Bill Demichele's wedding is that weekend - (he did the cover photo for warpaint) and they're not sure exactly when it is or waht else they have to do. Well hopefully they will come out, i know they will absolutely love the place and my grandparents - it is hard to leave the place without feeling happy, relaxed, better somehow. I gave happy and kevin the prints of the photos I took last time, happy said she was going to take them away and burn them :) but after she saw them she didn't seem too displeased after all :) Perhaps I will scan one of her and kevin :) They might not be clear enough to make a good scan, but we'll see. well, back to work jessica 17-Sep-91 0:08:04-GMT,1194;000000000001 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00702; Mon, 16 Sep 91 20:07:13 EDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA10844; Mon, 16 Sep 91 20:07:06 -0400 Received: from xstor.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 200650.16636; Mon, 16 Sep 1991 20:06:50 EDT From: Daniel Segel X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 15:43:30 PDT Message-Id: <9109161543.aa01072@xstor.xstor.COM> Count me WAY in. I'd love to hear any of your shows, but reception way out West here is pretty bad. Even with a REALLY big antenna. Of course the chance to hear some of the Happy songs I've not yet aquired makes it even more of a deal. BTW I am one of those who didn't feel able to properly comment on my fave Happy songs because I've only heard a small portion of them (I know, I know, I've got to get my act together and order the rest, but if I wait just a little longer maybe I can get 'em on CD!!). Oh well...I hope the taped radio show idea works out well. Daniel A. Segel daniels@xstor.com 17-Sep-91 0:08:08-GMT,1301;000000000001 Received: from relay2.UU.NET by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00691; Mon, 16 Sep 91 20:07:11 EDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04809; Mon, 16 Sep 91 20:07:13 -0400 Received: from xstor.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 200649.16625; Mon, 16 Sep 1991 20:06:49 EDT From: Daniel Segel X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy SiG Cc: Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at xstor.xstor.COM Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 15:13:22 PDT Message-Id: <9109161513.aa00590@xstor.xstor.COM> Count me WAY in. I'd love to hear any of your shows, but reception way out West here is pretty bad. Even with a REALLY big antenna. Of course the chance to hear some of the Happy songs I've not yet aquired makes it even more of a deal. BTW I am one of those who didn't feel able to properly comment on my fave Happy songs because I've only heard a small portion of them (I know, I know, I've got to get my act together and order the rest, but if I wait just a little longer maybe I can get 'em on CD!!). Oh well...I hope the taped radio show idea works out well. Daniel A. Segel daniels@xstor.com 17-Sep-91 0:11:56-GMT,856;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01296; Mon, 16 Sep 91 20:11:45 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA05468; Mon, 16 Sep 91 19:11:37 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA15928; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:23:02 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA03178; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:23:13 CDT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:23:13 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9109162223.AA03178@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy SIG Hey, vickie, throw me on the list. So when can I get a happy t-shirt and poster? and whatever happened to those happy tracks you have that never made it onto albums? -mjm /. 17-Sep-91 1:20:22-GMT,3232;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07972; Mon, 16 Sep 91 21:20:01 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA06301; Mon, 16 Sep 91 21:19:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 21:19:56 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109170119.AA06301@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: last night as jessica says: > Well, I drove 5 hours in the rain and traffic to see mouth music, > and it WAS WORTH IT! > for many reasons :) well, i only drove 2 hours, but i would have driven 5 or more -- for many reasons indeed... > Greg and .marc were there, and another love-hound, i don't know > his name though which is to say, myself, Marc Midura, and (seperately) Bob Krovetz. also saw |>oug Alan at the Sommerville show... (i saw Mouth Music saturday *and* sunday. ask me if i regret seeing them twice in 24 hours. go ahead, ask! what's that? no, i don't regret it, not in the least -- why do you ask?) > Meredith, wait 'til you see a color normal picture of happy! > I mean, she's recognizable from the picture on warpaint, but she > is *so* pretty in person, much prettier than the picture shows! anyone who has listened to Happy's music *knows* she is a beautiful person! (though it *is* particularly noticeable in person... 8-] ) > I gave happy and kevin the prints of the photos I took last time, > happy said she was going to take them away and burn them :) > [...] > Perhaps I will scan one of her and kevin :) yes, please. note that there are some *great* pictures of Happy and Jessica together in these shots. I like the one with two kids... ;-) > Bill Demichele's wedding is that weekend - (he did the cover > photo for warpaint) and he's marrying the woman who did the bar codes for _warpaint_!!! yet another case of Happy's music bringing people together! > Kevin was very excited to meet greg :) that was neat :) > happy was her relatively shy self - much more noticable > with other people around than it was when i first met them. hmm, well, i was very excited to meet Kevin, and was my relatively shy self with Happy. i mean, it may be strange to meet fans, but it is equally odd to encounter an idol, as it were... i wish i could have thought of something *interesting* to say... i did ask Kevin if he would consent to an interview for a future issue of the 'zine... Happy groaned something about his spilling all her embarrassing secrets! ;-} flustered though i was, i had a fantastic time. kinda nice to know that such wonderful music comes from wonderful people. > The show itself was fantastic. yeah, BTW, the Mouth Music show *was* incredible! i spoke with Chic Medley, who recorded and co-produced the MM CD, and with Mairi MacInnes, the (new) lead singer, and they were both delightful people (with great accents!!). note that Mouth Music live is quite different from Mouth Music on CD -- the live group featured 5 new musicians and an awesome dance groove -- i have quite literally never danced so much in my life... some data: Mouth Music, "Mouth Music" -- Rykodisc RCD10196 (USA) Mairi MacInnes, "Causeway" -- Lismor LCOM9018 (Scotland) ta. -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "so many powerful beings..." 17-Sep-91 2:02:47-GMT,4813;000000000001 Received: from gateway.bnr.ca by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11715; Mon, 16 Sep 91 22:02:18 EDT Received: from BNRECADA.BNR.CA by gateway.bnr.ca (5.61/1.34) id AA15823; Mon, 16 Sep 91 22:01:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9109170201.AA15823@gateway.bnr.ca> Received: from BNRECADA.BNR.CA by BNRECADA.BNR.CA (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 8677; Mon, 16 Sep 91 22:01:47 EDT Date: 16 Sep 91 22:01:00 EDT To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, love-hounds@wiretap.spies.com, siberry@bfmny0.bfm.com From: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui Subject: Loreena McKennitt on tour across Canada !!! Sender: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui Loreena McKennitt on Tour across Canada _______________________________________ October Sunday 13 Stratford City Hall Beth Beech 519-273-3856 Above is benefit for Amnesty International Friday 18 Nepean, Centrepoint Theatre Box Office 613-727-6650 Saturday 19 Kingston, Grand Theatre Box Office 613-546-1756 Sunday 20 Pembroke, Festival Theatre Donna Brooks 613-735-0151 Above is sponsored by Algonquin Search & Rescue Monday 21 Vankleek Hill, Collegiate Ian Hepburn 613-678-2286 Thursday 24 Halifax, Rebecca Cohn Auditorium Box Office 902-494-2646 Friday 25 Fredericton Theatre, NB Playhouse Box Office 506-458-8344 Saturday 26 Charlottetown, Confederation Centre Box Office 902-566-1267 Thursday 31 Toronto, Winter Garden Theatre Box Office 416-594-0755 November Saturday 2 Waterloo, Haminities Theatre Box Office 519-885-4280 Sunday 3 Blyth, Festival Theatre Box Office 519-523-4345 Thursday 7 Orillia, Opera House Box Office 705-325-1311 Friday 8 Guelph, War Memorial Hall Box Office 519-824-4120 Saturday 9 London, Althouse College Theatre, Gordon Price 519-438-3474 U of Western Ontario Wednesday 13 Neepawa, Manitober, Roxy Theatre Kaleidoscope 204-476-2511 Friday 15 Brandon, Centennial Auditorium Box Office 204-728-9510 Above sponsored by Brandon Folk Music & Art Society Saturday 16 Winnepeg, Walker Theatre Box Office 204-956-5656 Above sponsored by West End Cultural Centre Sunday 17 Morden, Manitober, Recreation Centre Wes Ham 204-822-3095 Above sponsored by Back Forty Folk Festival Tuesday 19 Nelson, B.C., Capitol Theatre H. Hutchinson 604-354-3910 Wednesday 20 Kelowna, Community Centre Ihor Sychylo 604-763-4025 Thursday 21 Kamloops, Sagebrush Theatre Velma McCall 604-372-3282 Saturday 23 Victoria, University Centre Auditorium Box Office 604-721-8299 Above sponsored by Vancouver Folk Music Festival Sunday 24 Saltspring, Ganges United Church Patricia Nobile 604-537-4167 Wednesday 27 Vancouver, The Orpheum Box Office 604-665-3050 Above sponsored by Vancouver Folk Music Festival Thursday 28 Smithers, ROI Theatre Normal Stokes 604-846-9265 Above sponsored by Bulkley Valley Folk Music Society Friday 29 Prince Rupert, Performance Arts Centre Box Office 604-627-8888 Saturday 30 Terrace, REM Lee Theatre Box Office 604-635-2101 Sunday 1 Whistler, Chateau Whistler Resort Ballroom 604-932-4047 Above sponsored by Whistler Community Arts Council Monday 2 Port Alberni, Alberni District Secondary School 604-724-3412 Above sponsored by Community Arts Council of Alberni Valley Tuesday 3 Campbell River, Tidemark Theatre Mike Utgaard 604-287-7465 December Wednesday 4 Fort McLeod, Alberta, Empress Box Office 403-553-4151 Thursday 5 Edmonton, Meyer Horowitz Theatre Jim McLachlan 403-478-6417 University of Alberta Friday 6 Banff, Eric Harvie Theatre Box Office 403-762-6300 Saturday 7 Lethbridge, University of Lethbridge Don Aikaster 403-329-2488 Sunday 8 Calgary, Craigie Hall Box Office 403-220-4900 University of Calgary For further information, please contact: Quinlan Road Productions, RR #5, Stratford, Ontario N5A 6S6 Canada Phone: 519-273-3876 Fax: 519-273-4553 Jan Crabtree Warner Music Canada, 1810 Birchmount Road, Scarborough, Ontario M1P 2J1 Canada Phone: 416-291-2515 Fax: 416-291-6044 Richard Flohil & Associates #107 - 77 Mowat Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3E3 Canada Phone: 416-535-2239 Fax: 416-535-1236 ____________________________________________________________________________ Michael MY Hui Ottawa Canada myhui@bnr.ca 613-765-4423 17-Sep-91 6:45:32-GMT,1329;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12725; Tue, 17 Sep 91 02:41:03 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA24164; Tue, 17 Sep 91 02:15:40 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 16 Sep 91 21:30:33 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA23013; Mon, 16 Sep 91 21:30:32 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:20 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 17:21 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Dedications/Stories on Ecto SIG? Vickie here. If anyone wants to relate to me a short story about any of the songs on the Poll list, or dedicate one of the songs to anyone special, or say a personal message to other Ectophiles or to Happy, please do. Send me your message and I'll incorporate it into the show. This is your show! Jorn just called me with news of Jessica's post re meeting H&K at Mouth Music. I'll probably get it in later tonight. Great! I have to admit, I totally spaced off the date and forgot about Mouth Music playing in the Boston area, I didn't realize it was so soon. Ah, how time flies.... 17-Sep-91 6:45:52-GMT,1614;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13182; Tue, 17 Sep 91 02:45:39 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA24167; Tue, 17 Sep 91 02:15:40 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 16 Sep 91 23:56:47 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA24577; Mon, 16 Sep 91 23:56:45 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 16 Sep 91 23:37 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 23:37 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: British humor in ECTO Vickie here. This is so funny, Steve and Justin hashing out Steve's line: bond.crim.ca wrote: >> Assuming you want to say `Don't speak to me of life': >> You mean `Noli' rather than `Nole'. The pronoun `me' should be in the >> dative, hence `mihi'. Simply putting `vitae' in the genitive is probably >> not sufficient; I would use a prepositional phrase `de vita'. The verb >> `dicere' also seems inappropriate (you want something like `loqui' >> instead, I would think). Warning, this is off the top of my head and >> may not be entirely reliable... > Does this mean I have to write it out correctly a hundred times??? I have this great scene in my head....Marvin, the Paranoid Android meets the Roman soldier from _Life Of Brian_ !!!! :-) Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy + Monty Python...what a combination! This list is so much fun! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 18-Sep-91 5:11:54-GMT,1094;000000000001 Received: from Clouso.CRIM.CA by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03505; Wed, 18 Sep 91 01:11:22 EDT Received: by clouso.crim.ca (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08620; Wed, 18 Sep 91 01:04:53 EDT Received: by bond.crim.ca (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA04022; Wed, 18 Sep 91 01:11:21 EDT Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 01:11:21 EDT From: justin@bond.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Message-Id: <9109180511.AA04022@bond.crim.ca> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: British humor in ECTO > Vickie here. This is so funny, Steve and Justin hashing out Steve's line: > > I have this great scene in my head....Marvin, the Paranoid Android meets > the Roman soldier from _Life Of Brian_ !!!! :-) !!!! Now that you mention it, I suppose I was feeling somewhat Marvinish when I wrote my Message of Weary Complaint... But it's been a while since I read HHGG. Time to reread it so I can stay in character! :-) Relevant mumbling: I put Warpaint on more often because of an overdeveloped feed-the-CD-player reflex (and because i haven't got over my Feed the Fire obsession yet) but i think i like Ecto best. justin 18-Sep-91 5:51:01-GMT,1808;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09235; Wed, 18 Sep 91 01:50:52 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA06135; Wed, 18 Sep 91 01:24:42 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 17 Sep 91 23:39:48 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA13854; Tue, 17 Sep 91 23:39:46 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 17 Sep 91 23:09 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 23:09 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Did you mean to hurt me, darling... Michael, I love ya, but... > and whatever happened to those happy tracks you have that never > made it onto albums? oh, those were just the "suprises" I planned to put on the Ecto SIG. *sigh* I have 5 Bartlett/Rhodes songs from when H&K were a professional team. They were written by Kevin and sung by Happy, so they're not exactly "Happy" songs, but they've never been officially released. Kevin's style is quite different from Happy's so they're quite a change. I won't put all 5 on the Ecto SIG, just as many as I can fit. Just don't go and give away the fact that I have Happy, Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, and Jane Siberry singing "Mairzy Doats" in a Cathedral in France, backed up by the entire Bulgarian Chorus, the Morman Tabernacle Choir, and the Vienna Boys Choir, with Nigel Kennedy on violin, conducted by Kevin, with Princess Di and Mother Theresa in the audience, among many others. The video is being co-directed by Terry Gilliam, Stanley Kubrick and David Lynch. I'll *really* be mad if you give *that* away!! Vickie "Wow!" Mother Theresa 18-Sep-91 12:50:14-GMT,1877;000000000001 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11367; Wed, 18 Sep 91 08:49:27 EDT Message-Id: <9109181249.AA11367@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from ukc.ac.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk via JANET with NIFTP id <17836-0@sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>; Tue, 17 Sep 1991 18:58:27 +0100 Received: from harrier by mercury.ukc.ac.uk Over Ring with UKCSMTP id aa17009; 17 Sep 91 19:02 BST Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 19:01:59 BST From: Stephen Thomas To: Ecto Subject: Hello all. Thank you, Vickie, for the welcome to this list. I think I ought to introduce myself. I've been a love-hound for the past couple of years - although other hounds will know that I post infrequently. Being a graduate student leaves little free time, alas! Anyway, Happy's name kept cropping on love-hounds, but being in the UK meant that getting hold of her work was difficult - and I'm loath to get anything without hearing it first. That opportunity came up a few weeks ago. I was going to attend a conference in the Boston area. Now I remembered that Greg Bossert lived in that neck of the woods, and I remember meeting him at the Kate Bush Fan Convention in London last November, so I got in touch with him, hoping we could meet. We did indeed meet, and I had a great time in Boston - thanks Greg! Whilst there, I did check out record stores for Happy's stuff, but no luck, I'm afraid. However, I did hear parts of Warpaint at Greg's place, and was impressed (are you surprised? :-)). Hence, now I have heard her work, I shall get it. It was a probability before, now it's a certainty, just as soon as my finances are a little better (which should be next month, I hope). Anyway, I shall have to go, friends. I have a 300 page PostScript document slooowwly printing out... Keep well, Stephen 19-Sep-91 14:17:03-GMT,2746;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18784; Thu, 19 Sep 91 10:16:17 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA18700; Thu, 19 Sep 91 08:16:57 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA06194; Thu, 19 Sep 91 08:11:32 MDT Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 08:11:32 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109191411.AA06194@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: The Eternal Moment Greetings, all, I know this subject has been touched before. In fact, Vickie even included it in her proto-Ecto: the Frequently Asked Questions. However, after listening to Happy's albums three to four times, it's still their most striking characteristic. Happy's music and voice simply carry you along their groove with little conscious effort on the listener's part. Only they exist while listening to her music. I give this feature the name, the Eternal Moment. Happy's recorded music just captures a slice, a moment of a song that actually exists all the time. Happy's music fills the air, and she merely taps into a certain channel for a certain length of time to share it with us on her albums. Each song of hers could run eternally without losing its beauty or meaning, accepting no arbitrary boundaries of time or space. More prosaically, a number of characteristics buoy this illusion. Happy's goal in a single song seems to be to hit a single point, a single emotion, as hard and precisely as she can. Her music (including her voice, ignoring the words) supports the emotion, painting a constant sonic landscape. Her lyrics further focus the meaning, but at most they just subtly shift during a song. They have no beginning, no plot development, no end, just a single clear forceful point. Note how many of her songs continually repeat a stanza or two, occasionally with minor changes in words. In fact, one can still sense the emotion of a song without focusing on the lyrics, (though doing so adds another amazing rich layer of meaning to the songs). This repetition of the music and lyrics within a song is not only often quite strong and effective, but Happy pulls off the more amazing trick of not being boring while doing so. Instead, the listener is borne away on the wings of the song's musical beauty and real emotion. Listening to a Happy album is a qualitatively different experience than listening to most other albums, compelling and demanding the listener's attention. But, you all know this already! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! 19-Sep-91 14:26:16-GMT,721;000000000001 Received: from rpi.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19790; Thu, 19 Sep 91 10:25:58 EDT Received: from sub.aix.rpi.edu (aix.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB29); id AA19897; Thu, 19 Sep 91 10:25:05 EDT for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu From: Barry D. Wong Received: by sub.aix.rpi.edu (5.61-AIX-1.2/RPI-ITS-SUB10-AIX); id AA135364; Thu, 19 Sep 91 10:25:06 -0400 for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 10:25:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9109191425.AA135364@sub.aix.rpi.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Status of Ecto Hey jessica, I was just curious how ecto is coming along, and when do you think we expect the first issue to be released? Is there anything we can do to assist? Barry 19-Sep-91 16:07:17-GMT,1355;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00893; Thu, 19 Sep 91 12:06:45 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04911; Thu, 19 Sep 91 11:31:03 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 19 Sep 91 09:33:54 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA20482; Thu, 19 Sep 91 09:33:52 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Thu, 19 Sep 91 05:42 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 05:42 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: HupTooTreeFore Uh, Justin, I meant that *you* reminded me of the Roman soldier in _Life of Brian_ :-) I didn't see your original post btw. Lost in lalaland I guess. Greg & Jessica, thank you so much for your stories about meetin H&K at Mouth Music. WONDERFUL!!!! How did Mouth Music know Happy was at the show? Did they recognize her from the cover of Warpaint? I'm so thrilled for her. That must have been amazing to her. I'm posting an FAQ in gaffa, I'll probably post it every couple of months from now on. If anyone has anything they want to add to it, or think I should delete or change, let me know. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 19-Sep-91 16:37:38-GMT,6851;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04521; Thu, 19 Sep 91 12:37:06 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04922; Thu, 19 Sep 91 11:31:16 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 19 Sep 91 09:33:52 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA20479; Thu, 19 Sep 91 09:33:50 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Thu, 19 Sep 91 05:10 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 05:10 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto SIG Update Vickie here. Here is the list so far of people who have requested a copy of the Ecto SIG. After the list I will re-post my original letter (edited and re-worked), because I've gotten e-mail from 1 person saying they missed it the first time around (Hi David!) and maybe others have too. If your name is not on this list and you want the SIG, please mail me or post ASAP. More details at the end of this post. * - Sent request to be added to the list ** - I have received tape(s) in the mail *** - I have received money to buy a tape Barger, Jorn barger@ils.nwu.edu................*** Bloom, Brian brianb@natinst.com................* Bossert, Gregory gb10@gte.com......................* Bur, Justin justin@crim.ca....................* Burka, Jeff jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu............* Burks, Doug dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu...* Dembski, Jessica jessica@athos.rutgers.edu.........* Fagg, Steve S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk................* Hargie, Kirstin hargie@chinet.chi.il.us...........* Johnson, Tom tj@cs.ucla.edu....................* Kluge, Klaus kkluge@Materna.DE.................* Kyrlidis, Angelos kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu...........* Lubkin, David gargoyle!apollo.com!lubkin........* Lueck, Jeff jlueck@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu........* Mendelson, Mike stern@chem.nwu.edu................* Philipsen, Albert awphili@cs.vu.nl..................* Pravatiner, Mitch U15289@uicvm.bitnet...............* Relph, John M. relph@presto.ig.com...............* Sady, Gene gsady@gaffa.intel.com.............* Segel, Daniel danielse@stdim.xstor.com..........* Somerstein, Rodney rodneys@apple.com.................* Tao, Sammy Sammy.Tao@speech1.cs.cmu.edu......* Tarr, Meredith MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu..........* Woiccak, Rob (woj) woj@remus.rutgers.edu.............** Wong, Barry wong1@rpi.edu.....................* ============================================================================ Ecto SIG Info ============= These songs were chosen as favorites by the people who responded to Angelos' Poll: Oh the Drears..................Rhodes Vol. I Warpaint.......................Warpaint Would that I could.............Ecto Possessed......................Rhodes Vol. I Til the Dawn Breaks............Rearmament To live in your world..........Warpaint If love is a game, I win.......Ecto Feed the Fire..................Warpaint Off from out from under me.....Ecto Noone here.....................Rhodes Vol. II Poetic Justice.................Ecto I am a legend..................Rearmament Don't want to hear it..........Ecto In hiding......................Warpaint Come Here......................Rhodes Vol. II Under and over the brink.......Rhodes Vol. II When I saw this list my first thought was "Drears is #1...great!" My second thought was "I'd love to do a show based on this list" My third thought was "I just did 2 Happy specials not very long ago" Which led to the idea currently rattling around in my brain. I'll do a show, not for airplay, but for the people here on Ecto! I will tape it exactly as if it were for broadcast, but make it more personalized, speaking to you people. You'll be my audience! Besides playing the above songs, in the order presented, I will also throw in a few other interesting things. So? How many people would be interested in getting a copy of this Ecto SIG? I suppose an easy way to distribute it would be to ask for you to send a blank tape, along with enough stamps for the return postage. There's no charge, of course, but it would help me to not have to pay out a lot of money for blank tapes and postage. I've pretty much determined that the SIG won't be any longer than 100 minutes, so those who can find 100 minute long tapes, please send one of them. If you can't find one (some places still don't carry them) then just send a few dollars and I'll buy one for you. $4.00 should cover a tape, a puff package for return delivery and return postage in North America. If you've already put 2 90 minutes in the mail (thanks woj), I'll keep one of them and send the other one back to you. I'll still buy you a 100 min. tape. If you can't find a 100 minute tape, but do find a 110 minute tape, I'd rather have one of those than 2 90s, because it would be easier to decide where to "cut" at the place where you'd have to turn the tape over to listen to the other side. I want the cut to be at the same place on everyone's tape. So, a 100 (preferable) or a 110 audio cassette is the ticket! I'll figure out something different for overseas Ectophiles, because it seems somewhat silly to ask you faraway shore folks to send a blank tape across the Big Pond. We will discuss this via e-mail. Thanks to Klaus, Steve and Albert, who have already made arrangements. I need to know how many of you want in on this. Let me know as soon as possible, please, if you haven't already. If anyone wants to relate to me a short story (what it means to you, first impressions, etc.) about any of the songs on the Poll list, or dedicate one of the songs to anyone special, or say a personal message to other Ectophiles or to Happy, please do. Send me your message and I'll incorporate it into the show. This is your show! Ohhh, I hope you like it, because I'm going to have a great time doing the show! =========================================================================== I have dedications from Angelos and maybe Klause. Klaus, I wrote you a letter and it bounced. I can't do what you asked, but if you pick one of the songs on the list, that would be OK. I really want this to be an all-Happy show, and time is tight as it is. Tom Johnson has offered to do cassette inserts. Thanks!!! Mitch, thank you for the suggestions of where to pick up blank 100s. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 19-Sep-91 17:34:34-GMT,1449;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11455; Thu, 19 Sep 91 13:33:57 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19442; Thu, 19 Sep 91 13:33:47 EDT Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 13:33:41 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HupTooTreeFore In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 19 Sep 91 05:42 CDT Message-Id: re: happy and mouth music I'm not quite sure if they recognized her or not - I think it was kevin's ding, really :) I wasn't there for the beginning part of it, but when i came up to the front, Kevin was talking to the drummer (I thnik) and was offering him a Warpaint in exchange for a Mary McInnes (now i tihnk i am closer) CD. And the drummer was very pleased because (well you heard that part of the story). At that moment happy came back (I think frmo the bathroom) and they got to meet.. at least that was my impression of it, but it's possilbe that they'd met before I came up front too.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 20-Sep-91 8:30:29-GMT,1450;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16316; Fri, 20 Sep 91 04:29:36 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA18351; Fri, 20 Sep 91 10:25:43 +0200 Message-Id: <9109200826.AA00495@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: before I leave Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 10:26:04 N From: Klaus Kluge Hi, just some quick comments before I leave for holiday. Just one week, but without computers around, so unfortunately, without net access. Vickie, I've just mailed a snail-mail letter to you (and my next batch order to AG), I hope these don't bounce back. Please change my dedication to 'Til the dawn breaks' instead. Thanks. So, I'll go to enjoy my holiday on an island (no desert island, so I don't have to take my 10 discs with me :), and you all enjoy a peaceful and quiet time because you won't see any messages from me for the next 10 days. Cheers, Klaus. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 20-Sep-91 18:24:30-GMT,727;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07632; Fri, 20 Sep 91 14:23:36 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac24.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA16753; Fri, 20 Sep 91 13:21:39 CDT Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 13:21:38 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9109201821.AA16753@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: happy samples i haven't started distributing the happy samples yet. jessica will be putting them on the ecto server (whose address i forget) as she gets them, but that may be a week before even the first of the three (or more than 3, if i break down the lo-o-o-o-o-ong mutha into several) appears. (sorry.) 20-Sep-91 18:44:15-GMT,776;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10145; Fri, 20 Sep 91 14:44:00 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA05496; Fri, 20 Sep 91 14:26:20 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:28:01 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA04439; Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:28:00 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:10 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:10 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Eternal Moment THAT WAS WONDERFUL!!!!! *swoon* Vickie 20-Sep-91 18:44:42-GMT,963;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10187; Fri, 20 Sep 91 14:44:25 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA05497; Fri, 20 Sep 91 14:25:41 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:28:03 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA04442; Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:28:02 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:13 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 03:14 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Bouncy again Darn, I just keep getting all these bounced e-mail letters. Gene, send some already printed out with your tape. I'd like to see what they look like and we don't have a printer. If you're not Gene, sorry about this being posted. Vickie 21-Sep-91 22:07:34-GMT,668;000000000001 Received: from csd4.csd.uwm.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19397; Sat, 21 Sep 91 18:06:46 EDT Received: by csd4.csd.uwm.edu; id AA19568; Sat, 21 Sep 91 17:06:42 -0500 From: Jeanne B Schreiter Message-Id: <9109212206.AA19568@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: HELP (need Happy address) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu (ecto) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 91 17:06:42 CDT HELP! I helped another friend of mine get hooked on Happy's music, but unfortunately I can't find her address for Aural Gratification. If anyone could forward me the listings (etc), I'll have to forward it all onto him. He'd be most appreciative! Thanks!! Jeanne 23-Sep-91 12:22:22-GMT,2477;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07897; Mon, 23 Sep 91 08:20:26 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA29650; Mon, 23 Sep 91 08:15:30 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 23 Sep 91 05:26:24 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA19686; Mon, 23 Sep 91 05:26:22 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 23 Sep 91 05:05 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 91 05:05 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Gaffa brouhaha brewing... :-( Jeeeez, I'm ill. Literally, in the space of 10 seconds, I got a raging headache, my stomach is churning and I feel weak and dizzy. I just finished reading rec.music.gaffa and saw the first flickering flames of a Happy war starting up again. I'm devestated! Oh why, why, *why*? I thought things had died down enough to begin posting about Happy again. I thought that there were lots of new gaffa readers who knew nothing at all of the brouhaha that went on last spring, and would be interested in hearing about an unknown artist like Happy. I've *tried* *so* *hard* in my last couple of posts (the Update and the FAQ) to be as polite and concilitory and respectful of the feelings of the anti-Happy camp as I possibly could. Yet, in one stroke, gaffa has been turned into a battleground again. The heartbreaking thing is that it was an Ectophile that fired the first shots. The *last* thing Happy needs is for one of *us* to go and start another flame war! It makes us look bad and turns people against Happy. We're supposed to *help* Happy, not hurt her. If I'd been on-line the last time, I might have been able to control the last flame war before it got so out-of-hand. I'll try to do it this time and I'll bend over backwards to see that there's as little nastiness as possible. I'm not going to tell any Ectophiles what to say in their posts, all I ask is that anyone with a mind to fight nastiness with nastiness just take a deep breath, count to 10, think *real* hard about how a flame war could affect Happy and readers perceptions of Happy fans, and the benefits and meaning of the phrase "kill 'em with kindness" and post accordingly. I'm sick. Think I'll go have a little lie down. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 23-Sep-91 18:59:51-GMT,2201;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17854; Mon, 23 Sep 91 14:59:02 EDT Received: from clutx.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa19209; 23 Sep 91 11:34 EDT Received: by clutx.clarkson.edu (5.54/5.17) id AA18114; Mon, 23 Sep 91 11:34:24 EDT Date: Mon, 23 Sep 91 11:34:24 EDT From: The Inexplicable Power Message-Id: <9109231534.AA18114@clutx.clarkson.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Oh no! Well unfortunately I have not read Gaffa for about a month now because our news server is non-existent, and I haven't bothered to get the digest. This news of a new flame war saddens me - can't people just leave it alone. It especially gets me mad because there really isn't _any_ Kate news to speak of at present so why can't we discuss other musicians that are up and coming, and that have the "magic." I have to go along with Vickie...Happy doesn't need a flame war, and Gaffa readers don't need another one!! Oh well looks like another round of pm(gaffa)s strikes again. The other day in looking through all the new music at our station I found this little promo album by a group called Skinnerbox. There wasn't anything on the cover to indicate what kind of group it was except for a few quotes about all the strange instruments they use to create a kind of horroric effect. So naturally I popped it on....WOW! Female voices with music that is kinda undefinable...I wouldnt say this is for everyone, but i thought it was really cool. It's super mellow with some instrumental pieces. I want to say that the songs sound like they should be in a horror movie because they are so spooky, but that wouldnt leave the right impression. Anyway if you happen to see this album by Skinnerbox called _The Imaginery Art Of.._ don't pass it over... In the August 16th issue of CMJ music report Warpaint was advertised as a new release. It was kinda cool to see it there. Ive been looking through the charts of the various stations but I didnt find Happy mentioned (not yet at least :) ). Basically the ad was just Aural Gratifications address and the release - obviously Warpaint. kiri ____ 23-Sep-91 19:38:35-GMT,1114;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23862; Mon, 23 Sep 91 15:38:18 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.18) id AA28273; Mon, 23 Sep 91 15:38:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 91 15:38:00 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109231938.AA28273@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: smoke, no fire hmm, i really don't think there is a problem on .gaffa... the only comments are coming from people like Lazlo Nibble, not the hardcore love-hounds. (Lazlo is a great source of info, but he, Dave Datta, et al tend to dabble about in the music newsgroups -- they certainly aren't going to take a gaffa-war seriously...) love-hounds/gaffa has slid into the long dark night between albums, and dawn keeps being rescheduled -- things are bound to go bump occasionally. it's not our (not even Bill Wisner's!) responsibility to monitor these discussions -- i vote we let it drop. hmm, "Skinnerbox" rings a bell -- the CD certainly sounds cool. thanks for the tip, KirI! ut! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- love them double dashes -- -- -- 23-Sep-91 21:27:32-GMT,1078;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09669; Mon, 23 Sep 91 17:27:15 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02954; Mon, 23 Sep 91 17:27:09 EDT Date: Mon, 23 Sep 91 17:27:09 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9109232127.AA02954@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: adopt a haiku foundation To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: skinnerbox yeah yeah yeah!!! skinner box is fantastic...deep, moody, menacing and very dramatic as well. _the imaginary heart of..._ is their third release (the other two being a self-titled one and _the play- house_). skinnerbox is essentially the creation of julianna towns, with help from her co-hort mark erskine, collectively making use of bass, woodwinds and woodwinds to create a dark aural painting that is both unnerving and enticing. *highly* recommended if this mortal coil appeals to you (or even black tape for a blue girl for that matter or big hat or...etc etc etc). woj@remus.rutgers.edu - smou/dj-for-hire - cutting out a silouette of dreams 23-Sep-91 21:40:02-GMT,1329;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10908; Mon, 23 Sep 91 17:39:30 EDT Message-Id: <9109232139.AA10908@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 23-SEP-1991 17:34:37.05 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Flame?!? To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu There's no flame war on .gaffa. That was just a false alarm. What happened (for those of you who don't get the Digest) was, someone (I'm horrible with names) mentioned that the sound quality of "Warpaint" was a lot better than that of Kate's "The Sensual World". Since that has been a volatile subject (=TSW's sound quality or lack thereof) for the psat few weeks, this comment incited a retort from somebody else. The whole thing had to do with the comparisons to sound quality and the implication that TSW's isn't that great, *not* that Happy had anything to do with it!!! Sorry, Vickie, but you jumped the gun on that one. I know you have reason to be paranoid, but one fast retort does not a flame war make... :) ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================