Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #826 ecto, Number 826 Monday, 25 October 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* bye for a week! Ravaging the CD stores Cat saliva commiserations.. Today's your birthday friend.... new Loreena McKennitt album Re: McLachlan article Re: Today's jumble, or: It's deja vu all over again Sarah McLachlan I read what brni said Perfect songs Thanks from Beth and Tour Update Crumhorn, anyone? Re: Mercedes Lackey rational thought Nancy Montgomery Cowboys can't fly RhodeSongs - finally ectoware payment DepthGauge? Ectoware? More random noise ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 01:02:35 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: bye for a week! Well, i know i was just away on a bit of a vacation, but I'm going away again.. this time it's my birthday trip. last year we went to montreal. this year I get to go anywhere i want. well almost anywhere. anywhere in the continental US, anywhere in the carribean, or anywhere lufthansa files. (Joe works in the travel business). But instead of any of those places, we're just gonna drive around wherever I want to go. first we're going to burlington vermont, because we stopped there last year on the way to montreal, and I really liked it and want to go back. after that we're heading to maine. (mount desert island in specific). we'll either stay there 'til we have to come home, or we'll go somewhere else, i'll just see as we go along. I'm bringing a bunch of cds, like last year. not *quite* as many as last year, but still quite a bunch. I really hope I come back with them all! :( i will not leave them in the car, ever, period, this time. I've asked greg to take care of the digest for me while I"m away.. I hope there will be no problems.. If there are, you can either send mail directly to him or to ecto-request, i'll add him to that for while i'm away. see you all in a week.. jessica ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 11:58:58 MET From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Ravaging the CD stores Yesterday I went CD shopping. I don't think I've bought so much good music at once before. The first three discs I got were _Voices Carry_, by 'Til Tuesday, _Heidi Berry_, and _Weaving my Ancestors' Voices_, by Sheila Chandra. I paid full price for these, so I had to compensate for this by picking up three more discs for 1/4 of the usual price: _The Mahabharata Original Soundtrack_, _Cruel Inventions_, by Sam Phillips, and _Tchaikovsky - Rococo Variations_, by the London Philharmonic Orchestra, with Ofra Harnoy on cello. I love them all, but I think my favourite is Sheila Chandra. She can sing like a skipping CD player. :-) This one also goes perfectly together with the fourth one. I'm surprised nobody mentioned the most perfect song ever written yet: "Mimi on the Beach", by Jane Siberry. Thanks to Vickie and Charley for the annotation. I was thinking about doing something similar with Kate's "Big Stripey Lie". Bob the mildly enthusiastic worries: > Yet ecto remains for me a most mesmerizing place. I just hope >nobody (Albert?) is angry with me about the Happyonecto thing; as I >said I was trying to make a liability into an asset. I was one of >the yes votes, but I was hurt a little that some of you took it so hard. >Did anyone else remember some of the posts after Happy posted here from >her last Philly Meet & Greet? Ah well, feathers were made to be ruffled. >Sorry if anyone got offended... I'm not angry, and I'm not offended. Big Sloppy Kisses to everyone... :-) In an hour or so, Chris Boek and Perttu are coming to visit me. Chris will bring his copy of _RhodeSongs_, so I'll finally get to hear "Summer". Also, Perttu has bought _Eat The Music" for me. I just can't wait... :-) Albert ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 05:30:27 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Cat saliva Mike Mendelson : > Well, it's actually the saliva that causes allergies. Yep, that is the source. I guess people are often allergic to being eaten by animals. :) Since cats groom themselves with saliva it gets all over their hair and skin and flakes off in/as dander. This is also why people are generally more allergic to cats than dogs; dogs don't groom like cats. > to myself by a Judy with Cats. I never had any problem with > left over cat-stuff when I moved in. Perhaps the lack of > carpets (it's all wood floors) is a reason. I think that does makes a big difference, from what I've heard. Wood floors can be thoroughly cleaned while carpet... you get the idea. I used to visit a friend who has carpet and had had a cat 6 months prior. Even after lots of vacuuming I'd still start sniffling after being there a bit. --- Alex R. Gibbs |\| | (~, ]-[ ~|~ ]-[ /-\ \/\/ ]< arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu "I'm not the me I used to be." "Duct tape is like 'the force', it has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together..." -- Carl Zwanzig ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 21:31:27 CDT From: courtney Subject: commiserations.. Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 21:31:27 CDT From: courtney Subject: commiserations.. I just wanted to send my sympathies to Mitch the daddy... I am blessed in that i managed to adopt homeless cats...when they were already three or older, thus sparing myself from the traumas of kittenhood. Good luck Mitch..we are all pulling for you!!! And good for you for adopting the poor homeless waifs! Courtney...the sucker for a furry face and a runbly purrrrr... ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 09:21:31 Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Dave Steiner **** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Andrew D. Simchik Sat October 26 1974 Scorpio Jessica Dembski Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathleen Morrey Sat November 1 1969 Scorpio Katie Dougiamas Sat November 2 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 4 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 5 1962 Scorpio Larry Nathanson Fri November 7 1969 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 8 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett-KirchoffSat November 8 1958 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Rob Craven Thu November 14 1974 Scorpio Elizabeth W. Warwick Sun November 15 1964 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 09:28:55 Subject: new Loreena McKennitt album Just found that in the news, and as I haven't seen it mentioned on ecto yet, I'll pass it on. > From: jrmureik@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Jonas Mureika Newt) > Newsgroups: rec.music.celtic > Subject: News on Loreena McKennitt's 5th Album > Date: 18 Oct 93 01:56:42 GMT For those of you who are in search of info on LM's new album (to be released in Feb. 94), here's a little rundown available from Quinlan Road Productions: "Work on McKennitt's fifth album is well underway; it will be called 'The Mask and the Mirror', and she is working toward a release date in February next year. The release of the album will be followed by a tour [yay!] in Canada, major dates in the United States, and another visit to Europe.... ... Musically, 'The Visit' reminded listeners of the earlier eastern influences of the Celts, an aural reference to the likelihood that they originated from as far away as Persia and eastern Europe before being driven to the western margins of what was then the known world. ...'The Mask and the Mirror' will elaborate on North African and Spanish musical influences; Loreena has written the musical settings; and she is once more working on the record with the musicians with whom she travels on tour..." ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 00:25:51 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: McLachlan article Yes! Yes! Please post (if it isn't too much typing)! Thanks Dennis Parslow Scene of the crime, body in the bed Troy, NY 12180 One victim died, one victim fled p00421@psilink.com Never got caught, but lost his reelection Too much sex, not enough affection Timbuk 3 "Too Much Sex, Not Enough Affection" _Eden Alley_ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 02:21:24 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) hi ho, > >If you'd like the pleasure of CD skip without the permanent damage, >just do like I did once and spill coffee all over a stack of CD's, >then forget to clean one of them until the coffee's all hard and >sticky.. this happened to my copy of _Bone Machine_ . It's okay >now (CD's are wonderfully easy to clean), but my my my .. it >sounded like John Oswald or other musical collage-ists held Tom >Waits at gunpoint and chopped up his master tape into itty bitty >pieces. > >D^2 > another way to do it would be to take a water soluble black marker to the disk. or you could use an indellible marker, and then clean it off with lighter fluid (i saw this done in a record store (record exchange in philly, which is run by old punks), as they were trying to destroy some japanese heavy metal disk. they even tried cutting the thing with a razor blade, and it kept playing). brni, who absolutely refuses to make any further comment on that damned PC debate. ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Today's jumble, or: It's deja vu all over again Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 10:36:06 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 22 Oct 1993 at 14:24:09 CDT U15289 wrote: > Today's weather > is relatively nice in Chicago, so I surmise it should be so in Toronto over the > weekend, as the aforesaid team endeavors to keep its championship hopes alive, > presumably without rain delays. Rain delays in a domed stadium... The mind boggles! No doubt I will now be regailed with stories of leaking roofs, indoor rainclouds, and rain-induced flooding holding up games. I don't know what the weather (indoor or outdoor) was like on Saturday in TO but the game certainly sounded exciting on the radio. Well, my commiserations to P people. Now the series is over I can get back to more normal sleeping patterns. Thank goodness for the extra hour in bed this weekend as the UK returned to its natural time. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 11:46:00 +0000 From: Terry Partis Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Well the time has come to say farewell to all you grand ectophiles. So here's wishing you all much happiness in the future and also hoping that I'll be back again shortly. So can you unsubscribe me as from tomorrow please Good Luck to you all, Peace to all Terry === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Sarah McLachlan Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 4:57:59 PDT [This is a little article from the Vancouver free weekly "The Georgia Straight." McLachlan may not be the most articulate person in the universe, and the author has picked up on this with a subtly snide undertone IMHO, but Sarah fans might find it interesting.] "McLachlan Delves into Darkness - The singer finds bliss at home, but unease and alienation elsewhere." Alexander Varty. The Georgia Straight, October 22-29 1993. You could call her frank. Sarah McLachlan knows no fear of the tape recorder, whether it's a big Studer in a recording studio or a little Sony in a reporter's hand: ask her about any topic, from sexual politics to social issues, and she's got an opinion. Yet she seems to shy away from probing too deeply into her own work - one gets a sense that she prefers the workings of her creativity to be just as mysterious as the enticing but cryptic songs that she offers a generally adoring public. "I don't sit down and analyze it all," she says of songwriting. "It's funny: when I'm put on the spot to make a snap analysis of it all, I'm like, 'I haven't really thought about it!' Because I _don't_ think about it. I just write about it, and once it's out, that little piece, that song, is my therapy. It's gone. I've dealt with it. "It's hard for me to sit here and throw myself back into those songs. When I give them out, that's it. It's for other people to interpret them. And, basically, whatever you get from them is right. It's like an abstract painting: whatever you see in it, that's cool." McLachlan's latest recording, the just-released _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_, may take even more interpreting than past efforts. Beneath its sheen lie lyrics of almost impenetrable blankness, words that, as the singer notes, are not intended to tell a story so much as to invite listeners to construct their _own_ stories using her words and atmospheres as building blocks. Yet with careful listening, some themes do emerge. At the heart of the record is a bleak mood of disappointment. One is tempted to read it as a document of a relationship failing, but McLachlan is quick to say that her intent was somewhat more universal. Call it, instead, "a document of a world failing, of humanity failing", she suggests. McLachlan was recently invited to tour Thailand and Cambodia as a representative of the charity organization World Vision: the scenes she saw there both horrified her and gave her some measure of hope. As a child of the Canadian middle class, she had never before encountered such grinding poverty or felt such spiritual darkness as she encountered on the Combodian killing fields. "But at the same time," she says, "I saw other things that were way higher. Some of the people are so poor, but they have so much pride. They're really happy, and even though they don't have anything, they'd be offering things to us. It was, like, 'Please come in and eat with us.' You wouldn't see that in Canada. You wouldn't see the people up in Shaughnessy [NB - the traditional high-income and big house district of Vancouver] letting anyone come into _their_ houses." McLachlan has been clever enough not to try to write directly about her experiences in Southeast Asia. She knows she'd come off sounding like a tourist, or worse, a do-gooder. But her thoughts on what she had seen there caused her to question social conditions at home, particularly the forces that conspire to alienate women - and especially women of her mother's generation - from each other. She remembers her mother's loneliness - a loneliness that caused her to treat her daughter as a confessor rather than as a child - and contrasts that with her own rich and multifaceted network of friends. She says that two of the songs on _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_, "Good Enough" and "Elsewhere," are gifts for her mother: one attempts to explain to an older person how the narrator has come to an understanding of life that is unique and individual: the other affirms that women can offer each other a respite from the tensions of the male/female dynamic - a dynamic that McLachlan says she is just now coming to understand. "I had no self-esteem when I was young," she admits. "So if a guy liked me, it was like, 'Wow, he _likes_ me. I should hang out with this guy.' That's where I was at for a long time, and it was really awful. I've come a long way since then." In fact, _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_ may mark the end of fumbling in McLachlan's life and the beginning of a new and more ecstatic phase. A happy and grounded relationship has brought some measure of "bliss" into her everyday life, and while that has yet to be documented in song, the new CD does show evidence of the singer's growing musical maturity - and her willingness to admit mistakes. One song on the disc, "Circle," jumps out as an anomaly amidst McLachlan's catalogue of deeply personal, if obscure, tunes: it's a slight and not even particularly catchy dance number. On it, McLachlan could be any one of a dozen young, white soul divas, and its lack of a focus disrupts _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_'s running order in an annoying fashion. "A couple of years ago I would have been offended if you'd said that, and now I'm like, 'You're kinda right.' It's not a very good song. I was considering pretty strongly not putting it on the record. Actually, it's becoming pretty clear to me that I probably _shouldn't_ have put that on the record, because there aren't that many people that do like it. Oh, well..." Perhaps McLachlan gave greater importance to "Circle" than she should have because it was one of the first fruits of a shift in her writing philosophy. In the past, she laboured over songs, taking months to finish each one to her satisfaction. Now she's aiming for more immediacy, and since "Circle" took only a day to write, she felt to some degree that it validated her new approach. And while she has nothing but respect for producer Pierre Marchand, she also says she could have taken more responsibility for the way that tune turned out. "It could have been better, given more weird raunchy production in the chorus," she contends. In general, though, _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_ was completed to McLachlan's satisfaction, which means that it represents the beginnings of a shift away from the polished perfection of her earlier work. "I wanted to be really hard, really raunchy... but in a really contained way," she says. "Canned heat. I'm always saying things like, 'I want it really loud, but really soft,' and people look at me like, 'What the fuck are you talking about? That's like the opposite.' And I go '_Yeah!_'" What she means is that she wants really gnarly, distorted guitar tones, but buried way back in the mix, to give her music an undercurrent of nervous energy. To that effect, she played a lot of guitar on the new disc. Electric guitar. On "Possession," she played six tracks of raunch electric. On "Wait," she plays all the guitars. "I didn't know what I was doing, but it was _great_, just feeling it and making mistakes. There's mistakes all over it, but that's what makes it really magical, and gives it that tension, too." An avid and increasingly accomplished player, McLachlan revels in her recent acquisition of two vintage six-strings and is looking forward to her upcoming tour, which kicks off with two Vogue Theatre shows on Thursday and Friday (October 28 and 29). She says that with three electric guitars in the band (including her own "anarchic" fuzz-and-wah-wah interjections) and some gospel-flavoured reworkings of older material, the shows will be both heavier and more soulful than ealier outings - but no less poetic. The one last inspiration she wants to credit as being crucial to the making of _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_ came from an unlikely source. [Toronto band] Blue Rodeo's hard-rocking lead guitarist and songwriter Greg Keelor gave McLachlan a book that she treasures: the German Romantic philosopher and writer Rainer Maria Rilke's _Letters to a Young Poet_. "He's beautifully articulate, and the things he says are so magically resonant," McLachlan enthuses. "He says one thing about how we are all infinitely alone here, in this world, and the sooner you figure that out and grasp it, and cherish that, the happier you'll be. And also he says, 'don't search for the answers, because if you find them, you won't be ready to accept them. But if you just wait, they will present themselves to you.' These are things we've all thought about to greater or less degrees, but having him say them in such a wonderful way is like hearing somebody else agree with you about something that's really deep and meaningful to you." ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 9:12:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: I read what brni said A Hallelujah Brother (or Sister :) ) to the nearly completely recovered (i.e., no longer physically challenged) brni and his dissertation on flaming (or, at least, near-flaming). A few months back, I got into some of the stuff with a number of (as Vickie has coined the term) overseas-ophiles over an alleged Americanocentric attitude which, as I maintained later, I did not harbor [A reference to a comedy of errors centered on the word Caldor/Calder]. I was quick to assert that I meant no harm in the slip-up, and the offended party(ies) were quick to apologize for being temporarily hyper-sensitive..still, there were probably minimal bad feelings which lingered here or there or amongst people who merely witnessed the exchange. brni has, more concisely than I ever could, caught the essence of the problem, and, what's more, proposed a solution/protocol which I think we would all be wise to follow (an opinion, not a proclamation). If we weren't all pressed for time these days, I would probably also suggest we edit/proofread our work (starting with my own incoherent ramblings :P ) prior to posting,,,but then that would impinge on the spontaneity of this list. Thank you brni, for carefully and thoughtfully analyzing the situation and for reminding us that none of us is perfect (which is not to say that A ONE of us is BAD....:) ) Chris Sampson chris@neuron.uchc.edu ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 09:26:17 -0500 From: colford@clsn1231.noble.mass.edu (Michael Colford) Subject: Perfect songs Boy, I had trouble limiting the number of songs I think are perfect. I need to be more discriminating. I did allow each artist only 1 song on the list. I endxced up with 20. 1-Martha's harbour by All about Eve 2-Silent all these years by Tori Amos 3-Oyster by Bel Canto 4-Watching you without me by Kate Bush 5-The sheep's a wolf by Caterwaul 6-Trout by Neneh Cherry & Michael Stipe 7-In a lifetime by Clannad 8-Over my head by 54.40 9-The innocent & the honest ones by In tua nua 10-Your reputation by Shona Laing 11-Act of mercy by Luba 12-Cooling the medium by M+M (Martha & the muffings) 13-Santified by Nine inch nails 14-Once in a while by the Reivers 15-The walking (and constantly) by Jane Siberry 16-Rhinoceros by Smashing pumpkins 17-Can't be sure by the Sundays 18-Head over heels by Tears for Fears 19-Boundaries by The Walkers 20-Waterfall by Wendy & Lisa I didn't include anything by Happy because I have only obtained my first of her discs recently. I'm sure sh's got some perfect songs though. Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library | Reading, Massachusetts colford@college.noble.mass.edu | *North of Boston Library Exchange* -------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Subject: Thanks from Beth and Tour Update From: Tim Breitkreutz Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:53:16 -0600 Hi all. First of all, I have a great big thank-you from Beth in Orkney for all the postcards! I just received one from her dated 11 October and I guess she got a load of them from you all and was extremely pleased! Second, for those of you following the saga of my upcoming tour, I am now officially going to Iceland to work for at least six months starting at New Years. I am also going to Malaysia for a friend's wedding in December (do we have any Malaysian lurker ectophiles?) and then travelling through Toronto (and possibly Guelph and Buffalo), Montreal, and Washington/Baltimore, so if there are any ecto-gatherings in the works in those general areas please let me know [I have been *way* too busy to read the digests completely--I've just been skimming]. I will let you know the address of the new Ecto-hostel in Reykjavik as soon as I set it up. And whoever is maintaining the ecto-hostel list, please remove the entry for Edmonton! Tim ======================================================================== From: alan moorse Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 10:55:47 -0400 Subject: Crumhorn, anyone? Friday afternoon, our upstairs neighbor (actually our tenant, now that we're slumlords) gave my wife and me a pair of tickets to a show by the Baltimore Consort, a group that performs old-old-old (but not quite ancient) popular music on period instruments. It was in the Troy Savings Bank Music Hall and was a benefit for the hall and a celebration of the release of the Consort's new album "le Roque 'n' Roll," which is the 50th recording for the Dorian record label. Dorian records many of the artists it carries in the hall, which is renowned for its acoustics and its uncomfortable horse-hair-filled seats. The show was wonderful. I don't speak French, let alone 16th-century French, but we absolutely loved the performance. The consort is made up of music scholars, and these folks CAN PLAY! They were more casual and witty than most performers of vintage music tend to be in performance, and it was fitting, considering that many of the songs they played and sang were in the folk-to- bawdy range. They also made some appropriately silly jokes about a few of their instruments --- the complex wooden flute (with no keys and seven holes) and the crumhorn (an odd double-reed assembly that was probably invented by Dr. Seuss in a previous life). If any of y'all like such oldies, I'd recommend the consort's albums, which cover topics such as Renaissance songs of England and Scotland, the art of the bawdy song, the wooden flute, the lute songs of John Dowland, and I don't recall what else. They're all on the Dorian label. And if by any chance at all one or more of you might pass near Troy in your world travels, I highly recommend taking in a show in the music hall, but bring a small cushion, or be prepared to learn why the citizens of Victorian Troy were such an upstanding lot. alanm ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 7:57:49 PDT Golly, now *2* people have mentioned Mercedes Lackey! I'm reading her latest book now. I've read many of her series so far. I do remember the first one, tho'... took me a little by a suprise when the lead character came out. I'm sooo dense because I had forgotten that I bought the book at an Austin bookstore that specializes in gay and lesbian literature. I just didn't expect *sci-fi* books to have any such themes. When I told my gay friends about that they had a great chuckle at my expense. :) Anyway, I'm a fan now but I seem to have misplaced the new book somewhere in the apartment this week. *sigh* Time to dig around for it.. br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 12:40:41 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: rational thought > hi ho! >A Hallelujah Brother (or Sister :) ) to the nearly completely recovered >(i.e., no longer physically challenged) brni and his dissertation on i WISH! i'll consider myself no longer physically challenged when i can actually lift my arm without using the other arm to do so. :( but, as the beatles would say: "its getting better all the time." >weren't all pressed for time these days, I would probably also suggest we >edit/proofread our work (starting with my own incoherent ramblings :P ) >prior to posting,,,but then that would impinge on the spontaneity of this >list. > self editing is self censorship. just say no to editing. better to make a big slip or faux paux and then be (gently) corrected than to start watching our every word for things that might possibly offend someone. one doesn't learn by being forever safe; one learns through paying attention to one's own mistakes, and from the public mistakes of others. > Thank you brni, for carefully and thoughtfully analyzing the >situation and for reminding us that none of us is perfect (which is not to >say that A ONE of us is BAD....:) ) > i'll take that even further. not only are none of us "bad," (we leave them behind in the realms of alt.tasteless...), but i think that, myself excluded, of course, we are all very GOOD. > >Chris Sampson >chris@neuron.uchc.edu > brni "exterminate all rational thought. that is the conclusion that i have come to." bill lee in _naked lunch_ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 9:46:43 PDT From: "John Relph" Subject: Nancy Montgomery The recent message about Loreena McKennitt reminds me... My wife and I met a couple from Nashville the other night. Had a wonderful and completely spontaneous evening, as they just happened to sit next to us at a restaurant. The woman apparently is a singer-songwriter with a band in Nashville. Her name is Nancy Montgomery. Has anybody had the chance to see her in Nashville? I agree, chances are slim, but I thought I'd ask. I gave her my address and she said she'd send a demo tape. I'll let you know how it is. And she says she's moving to New York City soon to attempt to make a career for herself. (Her consort is a successful country music songwriter.) -- John ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:23:45 -0500 (UTC -05:00) From: "I THINK THEREFORE I AM...CONFUSED" Subject: Cowboys can't fly What a long strange weekend. Working as part of the stage crew for a George Strait concert was truly bizzare. THe road guys were real laid back, unlike any other crew I've seen. The CROWD however was amazing real rowdy (imagine that), witnessed many bouncers dragging drunk cowBOYS out of the arena *Much* to the amusement of the crew. Some dude either fell or tried to stagedive(!) from the second balcony. He went SPLAT on the middle of the first balcony...hauled away on a back board and a neck brace. Cowboy's can't fly. I saw that the record store that carries Happy's stuff in Lawrence now has the complete HR collection. They started carrying it after I went in and asked if they had ever heard of her. They hadn't but said they could order her stuff. (I had just heard about her via the ectoids on RDT, then ran into the ECTOWARE of Depthgauge, so I was real curious). I mentioned to the owner that I had heard about Happy on a computer fanclub type thing, he told his employees...so now whenever I go into the store, I invariably hear "Oh, your the guy who heard about her on the computer?" I hope I don't get a rep as a computer geek! The owner let me audition the new Diamanda album,(ouch, I don't think I'll be getting that one!) and a little of A Man Called Alive. Anyone heard this one? I really didn't get a chance to give it a good listen. Alex -- ======================================================================== From: David Koehler Subject: RhodeSongs - finally Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Hello, My local Tower (Mountain View CA) finally got RhodeSongs. If anyone in the South Bay area still needs a copy they've got about 10 of them. I personally gave up bothering the ever-so-helpful *ahem* staff a couple of weeks ago and ordered direct from AG. Love those pictures! - Dave ======================================================================== From: ricercar@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 15:53:46 EDT Subject: ectoware payment Oh yeah. I forgot to let you know. While I RTFM for DepthGauge, to order Equipoise, I notice you wish to know when an Ectoware payment`is made. I sent in my DepthGauge 2.5.4 Ectoware payment and have been listening to "Warpaint" with great pleasure for about a year now. Even sold a friend on Happy Rhodes, so he bought some of her music, too, and he doen't even use a color mac. If you ever wish to write another video utility, or wish to add spurious features to DepthGauge, I'd really like a utility which allows a multiple monitor mac maven to switch the menu bar between monitors _on-the-fly_ using the popup menu mechanism (key+click) of DepthGauge's color switching interface. I've not got the discipline or patience to learn how to write it myself, and I've had Think C longer than "Warpaint".... Cheers, and keep up the good work; Depth Gauge is still on my mac while Switch-a-roo, Colorswitch, and others have come and gone. My Mac's just not the same without that screen-depth numeral in the corner. m.g.gadzikowski ricercar@aol.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 16:30:45 EDT From: ken@zeus.st.3com.com (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: DepthGauge? Ectoware? This is the second or third time I've seen Ectoware and/or Depthgauge mentioned on the list... What is/are they? I missed something... ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 15:33:53 CDT From: Subject: More random noise Kath inadvertently sent the following reaction to my "supercolliding super- conductor" joke to me, rather than to the list. I am now pleased to share it with all of you: >Arrrgh! Yea! Horrible! Wonderful! I liked it... Bob the linguist says: > Y'all have a great weekend, enjoy the music, and hoa binh! It having been a couple of years since _China Beach_ got cancelled, I'm at a loss to translate the Vietnamese catchphrase. What's it mean? Valerie nozicks, _passim_: >wow! for those of you who haven't seen chicago, run to thhe airport right now ^^^^ >driving on the edge of thhe world, precariously balanced on the rim [...] ^^^^ >and the trip to see vickie and chris' place is alone worth thhe trip! ^^^^ >actually, my other regret is that i hhaven't gotten the chance to meet all ^^^^^^^^ >the other chhicago torch holders [...] ^^^^^^^^ Is this an attempt at onomatopoeia, inspired by tales of beams trapped in CD scratches, or is it just a stuck key? :-) WRT Court's expression of support for my current foster care activities: Indian Summer having returned the past few days, the kittens have begun to duck out of their usual roost in the garage, and take walks in the yard. They have lately begun to laze in a patch of uncut grass, which they seemingly view as a tastier source of dietary fiber than the mass-marketed dry nuggets I give them. They have good taste if nothing else :-). Mitch ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)