Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #821 ecto, Number 821 Friday, 22 October 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Famous artwork on album covers Lost Angels Soundtrack Personal to kelly Another Happy Margot Smith Artists on Album Covers famous artists covers the newest guerilla Happy show! Translations from the ASCII ectopics Re: Famous artwork on album covers Bosch albums Final voting results Happy's Ecto Q&A Jane Siberry ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Oct 93 19:19:52 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: Re: Famous artwork on album covers Oooh, ooh, I'm just sitting here at the right time so that if I type and mail fast enough, I can be the first person to point out that _Brain Salad Surgery_ is Emerson, Lake and Palmer, not Cream. I have a disc by Megacity Four that has a Hieronymous Bosch cover too. I'll check on it. Also, isn't the guy who did the cover to the Cars Candy-O supposed to be famous? And isn't Debbie Harry's album (Koo-Koo? the one with the needles going through her face) a Giger cover as well? Time to go home and ponder, hmmm, I think I'd rather be ponderous on work time than on my own though. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 21:22:02 -0500 From: lakrahn@inst.augie.edu (Laurel Krahn) Subject: Lost Angels Soundtrack Someone mentioned hearing a Toni Childs song at the end of a movie called "Lost Angeles". . . Actually, the movie is called "Lost Angels". I haven't seen it, but I got the soundtrack cd in a cut-out bin a year or so ago. It's pretty good. Certainly worth the $3 or whatever it was I paid for it. I still see it cutout from time to time. Not lately around here, but... The track listing is as follows: Let's Rock - Apollo Smile Do It Better - Happy Mondays Fascination Street - the Cure Get on the Snake - Soundgarden Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah - the Pogues Many Rivers to Cross - Toni Childs Just Plain Evil - Soul Asylum Self Preservationn - Raheem Love Long Gone - The Royal Court of China Lost Angels Theme - instrumental featuring JohnWilliams & Wayne Shorter A&M Records CD3926 (1989) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 22:21:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Personal to kelly Hi! Sorry to bother the entire list across the globe with this, but... kelly baker, where have you gone? Your address @m.cc.utah.edu doesn't seem to want to acknowledge your existence any more. I have a message to send you that bounced back... please let me know where to send it! (I'll be in your area this weekend, btw...) Thanks! (I now return the rest of the list to its regularly scheduled ramblings) Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Famous artwork on album covers Date: Thu, 21 Oct 93 22:48:18 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu D^2 writes: >Hi folks, > >Since the Ecto Bunch tends to be a fairly musically literate group, >I thought I'd canvass you for this: I'm writing a packet of College >Bowl questions for a tournament between us and Stanford next month, >and one of the questions I'm writing involves albums with covers by >famous artists (eg. H. R. Giger's cover of _Brain Salad Surgery_ >by Cream, and the use of Hieronymous Bosch's "The Garden of Earthly >Delights" used on the cover of Dead Can Dance's _Spleen and Ideal_ >(or was it _The Serpent's Egg_?) ) Can any of you think of others? Would you count the Rev. Howard Finster? I think he's the sort of artist whose work most people recognize but might not know his name. The album I'm thinking of, of course is _Little Creatures_ by the Talking Heads. (has Finster done any other covers? I know he has a mural in an REM video...) Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Oct 93 20:43:15 PDT From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Another Happy Tonight's episode of The Simpsons is about Monty Burns's longing for his long-lost teddy bear Bobo. Among other startling revelations (such as that George Burns is Monty's brother), we find out that Monty Burns was such a happy child that his parents called him Happy, at least until he was given the opportunity to live with a bloodless billionaire and abandoned Bobo. " . . . and I want my teddy bear, to lie on . . . " ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 20:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Margot Smith Well, many thanks to Anthony, I am the proud owner of what is most probably the only copy of Margot Smith's _Sleeping With the Lion_ in the Pacific Northwest. Maybe the whole west coast of North America. I do hope this situation gets remedied shortly and I have plenty of comrades-in-possession of said disk. Now for the words about the music. Starting this disc with the 3rd song and going all the way to the end I *love* it. Adore it. She reminds me of Lynn Canfield, though maybe just a little more pop-y. She has a lovely voice, and the lyrics are intriguing. Sometimes she's a torch singer, sometimes a touch bluesy, sometimes she has a Kate Bush butterfly soul. Amazing. "Bellyman" "Child"...I was playing the disc tonight and kept telling Jim: "Listen to this song. I love this song." I think he thought it getting was a little funny when I said it for about the 6th or 7th time. However, when I first got this disc I was so disappointed with the first two songs (especially after Anthony's rave reviews) I couldn't hear how wonderful the rest of the disc is. It's not that there's anything *wrong* with the songs, it's just that they're mainstream pop, and because of the girl-pop instrumentation even Margot's voice and the lyrics weren't enough to catch my interest. But now I have Seen the Light and I can take Anthony's reviews as gospel as long as I know when to start listening to the music in question. Great stuff. And thank you Michael for the very complimentary review of my reading last week, and Anthony for the comments about my poems. I needed that. :) --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 00:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: King o' Pain Subject: Artists on Album Covers >Since the Ecto Bunch tends to be a fairly musically literate group, >I thought I'd canvass you for this: I'm writing a packet of College >Bowl questions for a tournament between us and Stanford next month, >and one of the questions I'm writing involves albums with covers by >famous artists (eg. H. R. Giger's cover of _Brain Salad Surgery_ >by Cream, and the use of Hieronymous Bosch's "The Garden of Earthly >Delights" used on the cover of Dead Can Dance's _Spleen and Ideal_ >(or was it _The Serpent's Egg_?) ) Can any of you think of others? Fantin-Latour's "Roses" on New Order's _Power, Corruption & Lies_. Stuart ______________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg "I need more things. I need more money. Emory Univ. Law School Don't want to work. Want things for free." labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu -Jane Siberry _o_ |< ______________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 01:04:05 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: famous artists covers robert mapplethorpe did the photographs on laurie anderson's _strange angels_, several patti smith albums, and SWANS _the burning world_ judith schechter's stained glass work appears on a local philly band's album (i forget their name, tho... :( ) peter max and roger dean, of course.... :) carlos sosa on peter murphy's _should the world fail to fall apart_. i could go on, if only i knew more off the top of my head while tired and braindead, but i don't so i won't. brni ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Oct 93 22:10:55 PDT From: tjshadb@ecto.sandia.gov (Troy J. Shadbolt) Subject: the newest guerilla Happy show! Well, I just got off the phone with Patrick at KSUH, and they were so impressed with the response that _In Hiding_ got last night that they are giving two time slots per week! (one show, played twice) And guess what- they told me that I don't have to follow the campus formats! (joy, joy) So, find enclosed the playlist for 10/22 and 10/24! Also, to Steve who noticed that all of the Happy Songs I played the first time- all of the discs I used were in my Car CD changer, I found out about the show 1 hr. before I was to do it! All of the music is out of MY collection- not the crap (pardon me) that the campus has (If I hear one more Janet Jackson song I'm gonna puke!) Anyway- "Every Word volunteered for My ARMY!" WORD! ********************** Welcome to _In Hiding_ a radio program dedicated to bringing you unique and interesting music by talented artists. This playlist if for: 22 October 1993 This show can be heard every friday at 6PM and again on sunday at 2PM. If you like the artists you hear, please patronize them; smaller labels deserve your support! If you wish to make a request, please call campus extension 3187 and press 15# for _In Hiding_ requests. enjoy TJS Play order: Happy Rhodes I am a Legend Rearmament [AGCD0011] Happy Rhodes Rhodes Waltz Rearmament [AGCD0011] Annie Lennox You have Placed a Chill in my Heart Little Bird [arista 12522-2] Kate Bush Under the Ivy This Woman's Work Volume 1 [EMI TOCP-6466] Toni Childs Don't Walk Away Union [A&M CD5175] Yaz{oo} Ode to Boy You and Me Both [sire 23903-2] Everything but the Girl the Language of Life The Road [atlantic 782057-2] Midge Ure If I Was the Gift [chrysalis vk41508] Maire Brennan Against the Wind Maire [atlantic 782421-2] the Moon Seven Times the Moon Seven Times Her House [third mind TM 91062] Dead Can Dance the Ubiquitos Into the Labyrinth [4AD 45384-2] Mr. Lovegrove Kate Bush Ne T'En Fui Pas This Woman's Work Volume 1 [EMI TOCP-6466] Happy Rhodes Ecto Ecto [AGCD0013] Happy Rhodes In Hiding (acoustic) RhodeSongs [AGCD0021] for more information about: Happy Rhodes, contact Aural Gratification, PO Box 380, Bearsville, NY 12409 the Moon Seven Times, contact Third Mind Records, 225 Lafayette St 407, New York, NY 10012 This is show number IH-22. ************************* Troy J. Shadbolt tjshadb@ecto.ca.sandia.gov ************************* ======================================================================== Subject: Translations from the ASCII Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 1:28:07 CDT From: Joe Zitt anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) anthonifies: > I fed that to my C compiler (Amiga SAS/C 6.3) and upon running it got this; Here's a translation: > > Onteg One day, > sfrtdt a fCrsmsm relv aet epersssdosnep defutgy aprrdei erte. a stir-fried crimson ant relieved a hissing person over the earth of Mount Fuji. > fe aaurutedvssO h ,rwscnsea a fCrsmsm relv aet epersssdosnep defutgy totrl oe On the anniversary, having reconsidered, the crimson ant relieved a hissing person at Mount Fuji, totally > laii ec ads aprrdei erte. laying out seeds over the earth. > fe aaurutedvssO h ,rwtidef a fCrsmsm relv aet epersssdosnep defutgy trefec es sorcligbtotrl oe On a second anniversary, he recantend, and the crimson ant perfected his relief of the hissing person at Mount Fuji, > laii ec ads aprrdei erte. laying out seeds over the earth. The interpretation is left as an exercise for the reader. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 03:28:03 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (not just the size of a walnut) Subject: ectopics Mike Mendelson sez: >I'm shocked. The Borders store in Northbrook is right >across from Barnes and Noble. B&N is easily a better bookstore, >and the music section of Borders is pathetically understocked, >and hideously over-priced ($15.99, $16.99, etc.). greg, jess and i stopped at the one in east brunswick a few nights ago. i wouldn't say i was overwhelmed by the store, but it's a good one nonetheless (the woman in line ahead of me was overwhelemed). we talked to the clerk about music and he told us that this store was planning on expanding its cafe and building a new section for music. they were going to concentrate on jazz and classical music with a small pop section though - maybe that's why you thought it was understocked, mjm? mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) sez: >oh, hey, this might be a good time to advertise VAL-L, which is a list >for "the commentary of valentine michael smith," (the main character of >_stranger in a strange land_). i'll second this motion. i used to subscribe to val-l a long time ago (okay, well, three years ago) and i found it to be quite wonderful. i had to unsub after a while for reasons out of my control and i simply forgot to resub...in fact, i had forgotten all about this list until brni brought it up again. it's a great list - as brni says, if you run in the political vein and you've got time to spare (hah), it's a worth- while list to be on. Mike Mendelson sez: >It's as if there two Sarah's: the dreamy imaginary Sarah that >did Touch, and the earthly, real Sarah, who's done her other stuff. this is an important point - one of the things that i love so much about _solace_ is that it really is her first *real* album. _touch_ is still great in my book, but it's not as much sarah as it is sarah being someone else. i'll shy from saying KaTe-wannabee because she's not trying to be KaTe, but she certainly is emulating her. on _solace_, she got away from that and her own genius is shining through. Neal R. Copperman sez: >I have a disc by Megacity Four that has a Hieronymous Bosch cover too. there's also a band called the big f who used a "sample" of a bosch painting on their first album cover. rather than using the whole painting, they superimposed an ear from "the garden of earthy delights" (is that the right title?) on a black field. hmmmm. lakrahn@inst.augie.edu (Laurel Krahn) sez: > Actually, the movie is called "Lost Angels". I haven't seen it, but > I got the soundtrack cd in a cut-out bin a year or so ago. huh. i remember that soundtrack - it's got an awfully confused cover with lots of graffitti-like lines and words. it used to keep popping up in the studio of the radio station at clarkson. no one ever played it (to my knowledge) though. i think we just kept it around for the amusement value. :) +woj ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Famous artwork on album covers Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 10:11:04 +0100 (BST) On Thu, 21 Oct 93 at 18:43:56 PDT dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) wrote: > and one of the questions I'm writing involves albums with covers by > famous artists (eg. H. R. Giger's cover of _Brain Salad Surgery_ > by Cream Der! Wasn't "Brain Salad Surgery" by Emerson Lake & Palmer? I rather think it was, you know. Better make sure you get those college bowl questions right! :-) -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 6:58 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Bosch albums Greeting! As a resident old coot, I remember a detail from "Garden" also served as a cover for one of the early Deep Purple albums, one that is now out of print. Whatever it was, it was their best album. I can remember many great covers, but not by famous artists. Gawlik's covers for Blue Oyster Cult's early albums were excellent, but I guess he's not famous. Oh well. Ed Lee for the first Weather Report. Um, who? Say, what about Keith Haring? I'm sure I saw his art grace a cover somewhere... Bob the unartist ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 12:15:17 MET From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Final voting results Last Friday, I wrote: >Robert lovejoys: > >>Hi there, >> Susanne wanted to join the CMJ panel (thanks Vickie!) so I wrote to >>Brian M., who replied that he'd forward her name to CMJ but it might be a >>problem because neither Susanne or Happy have net.access. I wrote back >>explaining my (and Vickie's) role(s) as semiofficial liasons, and added that >>in all probability, most of ecto would prefer not to see Happy post and read >>regularly. This encourages open and varied discussion. We shall see >>what transpires. > >I definitely do not agree. I would *LOVE* to see Happy on Ecto, and have >an open and varied discussion with her. :-) > >I would really like to know what your opinions about this are, but to keep >things simple, I'll organise a voting. If you want to see Happy on Ecto, >please send me an empty reply to this message (so I won't have to sift >through all the message bodies). Make sure the word 'YES' appears in the >subject line. > >If you're afraid of Happy :-), please send me an empty reply to the message >I will post after this one with the subject 'I vote NO for Happy on Ecto'. >Make sure the word 'NO' appears in the subject line. > >I will post the results next Friday. (Your votes will be anonymous.) The results: YES votes: 26 NO votes: 4 Albert ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 05:38:55 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Happy's Ecto Q&A WretchAwry : > Bob, the joyous, loving one, writes: ... > > with us, but she does appreciate all we do for her. If any of you have > > questions you would like to ask her, why not post them? I'm sure that ... > Been there, done that :-) > > (Not that it can't be done again, but I'll repost the first one so > Ectophiles who weren't around at that time can see what she's already > been asked.) > > This was sent to her and answered by her in late 1991/early 1992, so > some of the information is out of date. Since then, she's 1) performed Would you believe that, although I appear to be "new" on ecto, I was on ecto near it's birth and was there when this happened? I thought the Q&A was late summer 91 and indeed it's in the September 91 ecto archives. You see, it's one of the last posts I saw in ecto before moving back to Tucson from San Francsico to go to grad school. Shortly after I got here my life fell apart and I never did get back on ecto until recently. That's also why all I have is Warpaint. Two years seem to have been lost and I'm still rebuilding my life, a new life. It is sooo sooo slow. As with most stories, it's a long story. That's why I remember. --- Alex Gibbs |\| | (~, ]-[ ~|~ ]-[ /-\ \/\/ ]< arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu "I'm not the me I used to be." "Duct tape is like 'the force', it has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together..." -- Carl Zwanzig ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 08:50:43 EDT From: ken@zeus.st.3com.com (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: Jane Siberry Hi Folks, I ordered myself a pair of Jane Siberry tickets and was planning to take a Jane neophyte to the show. I get my tickets yesterday and the show is called (something like) "The it ain't a concert - concert". So my question is just what am I signed up for here? I figured that my friend would like Jane's newer music but are we going to hear any of it? -Ken D ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)