Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #798 ecto, Number 798 Monday, 11 October 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: DCD Happy rhodes mailing list (ie getting on it) Re: Breeders' _Cannonball_ Dead can dance and Diamanda NonHappy Detailed Kronos Re: Anyone trying to email me? :-/ TRS Question big stripey lie ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: DCD Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 9:27:27 CDT Klaus klaimed: > > PS: Don't miss Dead Can Dance if they come near you!!! Great concert!!! > More about it later. Promised. > _____ Yeah, like they're coming anywhere *near* Dallas... >8P *sigh* I don't suppose any rich philanthropists would send their personal learjet to pick me up and take me to a city that DCD is playing? No? Hmmm... well it was worth a try... br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== From: "Klaus Kluge" Date: 11 Oct 93 15:28:08 MET-1 Subject: Re: DCD Hi there Br!an! > Yeah, like they're coming anywhere *near* Dallas... >8P Sorry to hear that. :( > *sigh* I don't suppose any rich philanthropists would send their > personal learjet to pick me up and take me to a city that DCD is playing? > > No? Hmmm... well it was worth a try... If I had one I'd send it to you. :) It also could collect some more ectophiles so that we all could see it. But we had to go to Cologne by train, which was a 50 minute ride. Ciao, Klaus. _____ Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge private: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto work: kkluge@materna.de ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 18:49:04 +0100 From: Karl Dotzek Subject: Re: DCD Hi ecto! >>>>> "B" == Brian Bloom writes: B> Klaus klaimed: >> PS: Don't miss Dead Can Dance if they come near you!!! Great >> concert!!! More about it later. Promised. _____ B> Yeah, like they're coming anywhere *near* Dallas... >8P B> *sigh* I don't suppose any rich philanthropists would send B> their personal learjet to pick me up and take me to a city that B> DCD is playing? When I saw DCD in Ludwigsburg, which is near Stuttgart, I was a bit disappointed. They played majorly three types of songs (one could call them more folky-, female-solo-a-capella- and dense-percussion-oriented) of which I only liked one kind (the dense-perc especially when it came close to PGabriel sound) or when their music was dark and sombre. I think the show wasn't worth the money. Perhaps the fact that I had to be seated in the same place (far from the stage) all the time made me fail the connection to the artist I usually am able to make. Y'know that spark of electricity that has to jump over. I was able to tape the concert (with some dropouts when turning over the cassette), but I felt no urge to listen to the tapes yet. I could produce a copy if anyone is interested (but ask me directly, as I sometimes don't read (all of) the longer posts). B> br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / B> |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / B> /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | B> U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / B> /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ B> /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ B> \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and B> reveals me.. oh well - HR See what supercites makes out of your sig! Looks a lot like that 8-bit(?)-coded file lately... -K __ __| \___ See you, hear you, wanna be "touched" by you / \ / | -- Karl Dotzek -- | __/ -- voicephone +49-711-1211386 \__ / -- fax +49-711-1211366 / * \ -- IMS, Azenbergstrasse 12, 70174 Stuttgart, Germany /______/ ----- communication is everything / everything is communication ----- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:40:14 -0400 (EDT) From: michael welker Subject: Happy rhodes mailing list (ie getting on it) Hello... I have heard of this wonderous thing known as the happy Rhodes mailing list, which tells of the wanderings of Dead Can Dance. I would be very grateful to be put on this mailing list :> Thank you :> (mwelker@andy.bgsu.edu) ======================================================================== note to digest readers: I've put this guy on the list :) --jessica ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 16:50:50 -0500 From: colford@clsn1231.noble.mass.edu (Michael Colford) Subject: Re: Breeders' _Cannonball_ As I wade through my messages in E-mail, the Breeders' _Cannonball_ blisters its way across the airwaves. Isn't that a great tune? Michael ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 13:59:42 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Dead can dance and Diamanda Troy writes: >Those S.O.B's! they made it so only people in Berkeley >could buy tickets; and was there any warning that you had to buy from >Zellerbach? NO! I share the feelings about the DCD ticket fiasco in Berkeley... As D^2 already metioned I got row Z too, which after looking it up in the floor plan is indeed the last row...And I got tix right by the left wall... But at least I got them :) To those of you wondering about what Diamanda Galas is like live, I don't know what to say. She seems to be performing 'Plague Mass' (at least that's what the ads mention in SF), which is surprising since she just released a new album. In the case that this is true, expect a very powerful show. Do NOT expect to dance around, sing and clap along. If you want more info, e-mail me and I'll mail you a review of her show in Boston. I am still trying to decide if I should go see her again. Last time it took me a week to fully recover :) Angelos (doomed to only skim through the digests for the time being) PS. Does anybody know if the 'California WOMAD' featured in ABC's 'In concert' is the SF one? If so, then there is a slight chance that Friday night the Ecto T will make its TV premiere :) I will have to remember to watch that show and set my VCR to tape it. ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: NonHappy Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 16:51:15 CDT Completely Non-Happy question: (but I figured it would be fastest here) Who did the song about 1 and a half years ago called "The Sweater Song"? -- 'bout the girl who gets the sweater from a highschool boy, wears it to school, etc.. I had completely forgotten about it until this weekend then got struck with the urge that *I MUST HAVE IT*. br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: NonHappy Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 15:43:29 PDT > Who did the song about 1 and a half years ago called > "The Sweater Song"? -- 'bout the girl who gets the sweater > from a highschool boy, wears it to school, etc.. That was by Canadian singer/performance artist Meryn Cadell, off her album "Angel Food for Thought." She's got a new recording out now; can't remember the title... - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 16:03:29 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: Detailed Kronos Ok, someone was fool enough to request it, so this post will be all about the recent Kronos Quartet concert I went to. Nothing else, so you've been warned. Elvis Everywhere (1993) by Michael Daugherty This piece utilized a lot of taped voices, particularly three Elvis impersonators, all from Chicago! There was Patty Manning, the female Elvis, John Taylor, the suburban Elvis and Larry Caballero, teh Latino Elvis. The music (that is, the part performed live by Kronos) contained some smatterings of Elvis tunes, musical counterpoint to the patter of the impersonators, and imitation and variation on spoken phrases. This was similar to Steve Reich's Different Trains, although here playful, rather than serious. The phrase "Colonol Parker" and "Elvis is leaving the building" came up a lot. It was an excellent lighthearted intro, particularly since we got lost going there and arrived 10 minutes late and 20 seconds before the show started, wheew. Yiddishbbuk, Inscriptions for String Quartet (1992) by Osvaldo Golijov The descriptions in the program are almost totally incomprehensible to me, with references to Kafka, found artwork by children killed in concentration camps, apocryphal songs and found musical scribblings. "A broken song played on a shattered cymbalon" - Kafka. Anyway, days later I can only remember it as being spooky and melancholy. First movement comemorates the children above, second Isaac Bashevis Singer, third Leonard Bernstein. Quartet No. 2 (Compositions with Tones of Pure Color on White Bacground) 1985 by Corneliu Dan Georgescu. Program says this work was inspired by Mondrian (Dutch visual artist). Mach (1993) by John Oswald. This one I remember quite well. This was the only other piece to use tapes. Personally, I don't really like the use of tapes, but it always sounds good when I hear it. Unless, like in Different Trains or the George Crumb play along on the Black ANgels disc, the tapes are historical, I would much rather see people join Kronos to help create these sounds. There are probably monetary reasons why they can't do this, but I always think that would be better. ANyway, this piece was very noisy. Tapes were lots of drums, synthesizer type noises and crazy sound effects. Kronos mostly did similar crazy effects, swooping and sawing away, echoing and counterpointing the tapes. Lights were used at a bare minimum in this show, though on this piece and some others they backlit the band, creating crazy dancing shadows on the walls. Also a bit of posing in this piece. At one point the viola player was holding his bow straight on the tip of his nose and waving it around. Commisioned by Canada's Ontario Arts Council. River Beneath the River (1993) by Lois V Vierk This was basically two simple pretty melodies, one on top of the other, that mixed as you might imagine two streems mixing. A lovely, relaxing piece. The author writes of "the interactio nof two or more instruments forming one sound shape", unfolding slowly but growing at an exponential rate. Lithuanian Night(1919) by George Antheil All I remember is that it was really short, no more than 5 minutes long. Spoonful (1960/1989) by Willie Dixon for Howlin' Wolf, arranged by Steve Mackey. This is on their relatively new "Short STories" disc, which I don't have. A rollicking and rowdy blues treatment, probably more akin to the Cream version than the original. Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals (1937/arr. 1993) by Raymond Scott. This piece was hilarious, as you might expect. Apparently many of Scott's pieces were adapted by Carl Stalling for Warner Brothers cartoons, although Scott did not write for cartoons. Still, segments were definitely familiar. The interatcion between the quartet was incredible, as they tossed little phrases around, and provided punctuation (usually exclamation points!) to what the others were doing. Really funny. Quartet No. 5 (1991) by Philip Glass A relatively typical Glass piece. I've seen it performed before. I think it is a little more complex than most other Glass I have heard, with his trademark phrases mixed with slow passages. Encores Sunrise (I can't remember the real name, which is in an African dialect. It's on Pieces of Africa, a great disc) Almost all pizzacoto, it sounds a lot like water dripping with interesting rhytmic patterns. John Zorn - Meditation was in the title, but it was a pretty long one (title that is) I'd seen all the encore pieces performed before. THis one is very amusing. It basically consists of a single note, that is kept going constantly, on from one to three instruments. Someone would pick up the note, and the person dropping it would start swatting the air wildly with their bow. It was hard to follow who had the note, and the air was full of resin. There were some rhythmic patterns made by the whooshing of the air, but it seemed mostly just a silly piece, made doubly amusing by the very serious way the quartet played it. Lastly, they played Foxy Lady by Jimi Hendrix, which is another loud rowdy take on a Hendrix song. So, there you have it. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 11:12 MET From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: Anyone trying to email me? :-/ > I'll inform you if uli@zoodle.robin.de is working again. It's working again > If you get bounces (probably from mail@germany.eu.net or so) then please > resend them to the alternate address above. Or again to uli@zoodle.robin.de Thanks, Uli ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 15:09:54 +1300 Subject: TRS Question hmm... this should go to gaffa, but I've all but given up reading gaffa now :) (something about physical limits on how much one can read...:) anyway, is Big Stripey Lie going to be on the album? I have an (oldish) TRS FAQ file which lists the tracks, and BSL isn't there... If this is the case, anyone know why not? (It is the best of the three new songs on the singles IMHO) whoops... gotta go, Philip ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 22:40:09 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: big stripey lie philip writes: > anyway, is Big Stripey Lie going to be on the album? >I have an (oldish) TRS FAQ file which lists the tracks, and BSL isn't >there... >If this is the case, anyone know why not? (It is the best of the three new >songs on the singles IMHO) I think the fAQ you have is correct, and that big stripey lie is just a B-side. and i *wholeheartedly* agree that it's the best of the new songs so far. (they being, for me (the ones i have heard) big stripey lie, eat the music, and rubberband girl. I like all three songs very much, but big stripey lie is my favorite, i tihnk it is *amazing*. really brilliant and powerful. Ah well, I will live if it's not on the album, since I've got it on CD (twice, since it's on both the UK rubberband girl, and the US eat the music), but considering how great it is, it's too bad people who only buy the album won't hear it. :P ah well, incentive for them to put out another "this womans work" type compilation a few albums down the road. jessica ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)