Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #787 ecto, Number 787 Wednesday, 6 October 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: What musical instruments do I play? Re: Siberry Breaches PBS Beachhead What's all this brouhaha? Recipes & Dunce Caps Re: Muzikstuph, etc Re: Hello RE: Every now and then a cow would not fly by At long last :) ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 17:26:19 +1300 Subject: Re: What musical instruments do I play? Vickie Vickies as only Vickie can in reply to Christo's amused Christoing over Holly's musical Hollying: > I was on the floor too (*wonderful* Holly!) but I kept forgetting to go > back to it and reply. Thanks for giving me another chance, Christo! > Good idea about the stereo symphony, I can imagine it now. Diamanda Galas > vs. Julee Cruise vs. Victoria Williams vs. Kate Bush vs. ...wait, I've > always wanted to hear a Kate/Happy/Jane/Tori collaboration, this would > be a great way to do it! (I think I'll put my mixer board to non-SiG > use..."The Pool," "Night Scented Stock," "Summer," and "Map I") Other > cool collaborations would be Virginia Astley, Julee Cruise, Allison Shaw > (of the Cranes) and Anneli Drecker (of Bel Canto.) Diamanda Galas, Lene > Lovich, Meredith Monk and Yma Sumac. Liz from the Cocteau Twins, Enya, > Lynn Canfield (from Area and Moon Seven Times) and Suzanne Perry (from Love > Spirals Downward.) Lisa Germano and Susan Voelz as a duo, then as violin > players with Iva Bittova and Anna Palm (and maybe Nadja Salerno Sonnenerg > who is a classiccal violinist. Whew!!! Sounds like "Experiment V" to me! :-) > The CSO plays free in Grant Park every now and then, but we're not much > for crowds, heat and misquitos. Why does my spelling of Misquitos look > wrong? miscquitos, missquitos-not to be confused with misspuntablanca or > misschatelaine-never mind, I know y'all will forgive me, misquitos it > will stay. The online oed to the rescue! :) Results of approximate OED search for mosquito 1 (p1 of 6) mosquito m'ski:tU, mo-. Forms: 6 muskyto, mosqueta, 6-8 musketa, 7 muskeito, musceto, muscheto, muskitto, musqueeto, muskeeto, 7-8 musketoe, muscato, musket(t)o, 8 moskito, muskeitoe, mosqueto, 8-9 moschet(t)o, moschito, musqueto, musquitto, 9 musquitoe, mosquetoe, 6- muskito, 7-9 musquito, 7- mosquito. Etymology: a. Sp. and Pg. mosquito, dim. of mosca (:-L. musca) fly. [ Cf. Fr. moustique (whence moustick Obs.), a metathetic alteration of the Sp. word.] 1 A `gnat' of several different species of the genus Culex (esp. C. mosquito) and other allied genera, the female of which has a long proboscis, by means of which it punctures the skins of animals (including man) and sucks their blood. [ Certain kinds of mosquito are the agents by which the germs of malaria are introduced into the human body. ] > A stereo symphony. What a wonderful idea! We could play "The Man With The Child In His Eyes" and "The Infant Kiss" (the child with the man in his eyes) together. Or perhaps arrange a collection of the most disturbing songs so that they all reach a climax at the same moment... > I used to love to sing in the car, with the stereo or Walkman going. If I > was alone, I'd belt out at the top of my lungs and shake around and bounce > around on my seat. I like to play music in cars, but there's no room to dance when necessary! (ie. I can associate with said shaking and bouncing (provided I'm on my own!)) :-) > The car is a great place to find out if you can scream. I found out that > I can't scream. I tried many, many times and I can't. I can yell though, Ask Chris to drop something cold down your back when you don't expect it ;) > Who: Vickie > What: nothing really (Philip, you're not alone) though in Junior High > I played flute, clarinet and French Horn in Band. I probably couldn't > get "Mary Had A Little Lamb" out of any one of them. I used to sing in > the school choir and in a quartet, but somewhere along the way I lost > my voice and now I can't carry a tune. My voice is definitely a lesser being than it once was - I stick to singing to myself mostly these days (although I often sing to myself in public - I frequently find myself singing as I walk down the street (my theory is that by the time that the passers-by have thought "what a weirdo", I'm past them... :) ) > I play the stereo too, and with my cats (they meow on cue) :):):) Musical cats... The only remaining cat in my family (15 years old now) shows occasional interest in the stereo, but is far more interested in curling up on the TV... (Provoking much mirth when her head slips over the side because she was lying too near the edge - the boneless cat is a reality :) Philip .________________________________________. ._______. | __ _ ___ _ __ __ |\________/| | | / / | / \ | \ | | | | / | _ _ | _O_ | | \_ | | | | |__/ |__| | | \_ | / \/ \ | |/ | | / | | | | | | | | | / | \ / | |\ | | \__ \_ | \_/ | | | | |__ \__ | \ / | T W W | |________________________________________| \/ |_______| \ Philip Sainty: psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz \________/ / `-------------------------------------------------------' "This is where I want to be This is what I need" --KT ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 17:41:19 +1300 Subject: Re: Siberry Breaches PBS Beachhead > > I've been told by my beloved friend Holly, who's > > responsible for introducing me to this lively list, that I'm supposed > > to introduce myself and supply various and sundry pertinent factoids > > about myself. Can anyone send me an appropriate format to use? > Yaya Holly! ditto that! (yay) > Here's the form: right! ;) > Name: Philip > Abode: Small country in the Pacific... > Shoe Size: anywhere from 8-10 in my experience :) > Mother's second cousin's wife's brother's daughter's middle name: Albert > Quest: I seek the Happy Grail > Airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow: An African or European swallow? ...and my favorite colour is red! :) No! Blue... aaaaarrrrgggghhhh!!! Sad isn't it? :) Philip .________________________________________. ._______. | __ _ ___ _ __ __ |\________/| | | / / | / \ | \ | | | | / | _ _ | _O_ | | \_ | | | | |__/ |__| | | \_ | / \/ \ | |/ | | / | | | | | | | | | / | \ / | |\ | | \__ \_ | \_/ | | | | |__ \__ | \ / | T W W | |________________________________________| \/ |_______| \ Philip Sainty: psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz \________/ / `-------------------------------------------------------' "This is where I want to be This is what I need" --KT ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 1:09:55 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: What's all this brouhaha? SteveVanD passes along: > >Tickets for the Chicago show at Arie Crown Theater are for sale now. > >You can get them through tickermaster. I just got mine about an hour > >ago. Prices are $35, $27.50, and $22.50. There is a $4.25 extra charge > >per ticket through ticketmaster. Their phone is 312-559-1212. > >The show is the 30th at 8:00. Pump up your shoes and come on out. > > If any of you Chicago Ectophiles are Firesign Theatre fans, > here's your chance. If not, try going anyway and discover how > weird four guys can be. It would be great, but we've been invited to a Halloween party that night at Preston Klik's house. He's the keyboard player for Big Hat and I still can't believe he invited me since he hardly knows me. We're not exactly party people, but I feel pretty good about being asked and I don't think I should pass it up. Troy! Send me a costume! :-) I reminded Preston that I want to post the East Coast dates, and he promised to send them along. If I don't get anything from him in a couple weeks, I'll call their record company. They will be in Boston, NYC, Philly and DC, so lots of Ectophiles should go see them and tell Preston you heard about the shows on the net, so he won't think I'm lying to him :-). > disappointed, though, if none of you have heard of them. I **loved** "How can you be in two places at onec when you're not anywhere at all" and knew it by heart. It would be fun though...a Halloween Firesign Theater show....too bad. My favorite Halloween concert ever: They Might Be Giants with Poi Dog Pondering opening. It was in Kansas City at a place called The Grand Emporium. 1988, I think. Vickie "You can sit here in the waiting room or you can wait here in the sitting room..." ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 1:22:47 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Recipes & Dunce Caps brni, the temporarily one-armed Ectophile, says: > i don't know if i mentioned this before, but there is a > cookbook out called _the surrealist gourmet_ and is > written by jane siberry's manager. it contains some > really good recipes, some really strange strange food art > ala rene magritte, and a really wild introduction by ms. > siberry herself. *THANKS* for this info! I'll have to ask her about this :-) > _when i was a boy_ keeps growing on me with every listen, > except for "temple," which left me unimpressed from the > beginning and continues to do so. does anyone have any idea > why record stores in philly don't carry any jane siberry other > than the new one? Have you tried 21st Century Sound? Surely Lenny knows about Jane (?) "Temple" and "All the Candles In the World" are my two least favorite songs on the CD. I don't dislike them, but... > britain is that little island just below italy, right? I thought it was somewhere near Australia. It's New Zealand that's below Italy. Sheesh, what school did *you* go to? > :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :):) :) :) :) :) :) :) > :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> > (lest anyone take me seriously---another row) > :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) ditto > >*** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** > > by the way, has the meaning of "duffers" ever been revealed? As SteveF explained it, "Better dead than dumb" (Nice papa, huh?) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 1:34:23 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Muzikstuph, etc JoeZ adds: > I'm mostly a composer. I've recorded and performed using keyboards, > bass, guitar, percussion, shofar, and several other instrument that I > can picture but whose names escape me, but I can't play any of them > really well. (I've never gotten the hang of playing chords on guitar, > for example.) However, I can sequence pretty well, and come up with > interesting musical contexts for others (as my example in the Happy > Birthday Tape may show (taking this on faith since I'm still chomping > to get my copy)). My last big project was the score for a show > "Shekhinah: The Presence" (which I also wrote, directed, etc), which > consisted entirely of live, sampled. and/or electronically altered > voices. Right now I'm starting work on the score for "Gabrielle: A > Living Hypertext" (yes, I got the name from Happy's songs; no, it > doesn't bear any other relation), another play that I wrote, etc, > which will premiere (cross fingers) at the CyberCultureHouston > festival in December. Great! Congratulations!! (At some point here, Joe is going to send me a recording of a song he wrote me long before he knew anything about Ecto or Happy Rhodes. Right Joe? Yeah?Yeah?) > Beer: Boy Howdy. Chris caught that reference! Boy Howdy from Creem magazine, drawn by Robert Crumb. "Always say Boy Howdy!" Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 2:01:48 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Hello GregO joins us: > I just wanted to say hi, since I just (finally) signed up for this list. > I've been reading Love-Hounds for a few years, and I've been on the Tori > list for a year. Now I'm here. Hi Greg, welcome to Ecto! > Apart from Tori and Kate, I guess my earliest experience with any of the Ecto > artists would be when I saw the video for "One More Colo(u)r" on MTV many > years ago. I instantly became a Jane fan. Such positive vibes. And a nice > voice, which has gotten better over the years. If only she'd tour near here. Good for you!! > So here's proof MTV can be good for something (or used to be, anyway (I > also became a Robyn Hitchcock fan by seeing the video for "I Often Dream of > Trains" on MTV, many years ago)). Does Jane have a video collection? I've > only seen two of her videos ("OMC" and "Ingrid and the Footman"). She doesn't have a video compilation, what a shame. > ObEcto: I have not as yet heard a single utterance by Happy Rhodes. You're not the only Ectophile who hasn't heard Happy's music yet. If our wonderful ubber-dubber Doug isn't swamped, perhaps he could re-post about his dubbing service. He has all kinds of things to offer, including a Happy sampler. Doug? > ObMisc: Go and see "Much Ado About Nothing" (a Kenneth Branagh film). I agree. I didn't like it the first time I saw it, but the more I thought about it, the more I wanted to see it again. I saw a great film the other night. A teeny-tiny little bitty great film called "Household Saints." It starred Tracy Ullman, Vincent D'Onofrio (Private "Pyle"-the creepy, geeky guy who goes crazy-in Full Metal Jacket) and Lili Taylor (the waitress who didn't want to get married in Mystic Pizza and John Cusack's friend who sang songs about her ex-boyfriend Joe in Say Anything.) It's a slice of life amusing drama about a girl who wants to be a Saint, and it spans 3 generations of an Italian-American family. It's funny, sweet, thought-provoking (even for an athiest such as myself) and wonderfully written, directed, acted and staged. (It's interesting...in Mystic Pizza, Vincent D'Onofrio plays Lili Taylor's boyfriend, the guy who really, really, really wants to get married. In Household Saints, he plays her father!) (There were previews of "The Piano" so it should show up here pretty soon) Vickie (aka Melanie Haber, Audrey Farber, Susan Underhill, Betty Jo Bialoski, but you can call me "Nancy") ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 2:07:41 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: RE: Every now and then a cow would not fly by Perttu travels: > Hmm, I think I'll go to Amsterdam on Saturday. Me too! (Isn't Amsterdam just north of Chicago? :-)) Perttu, how's your sister doing? Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 23:11:00 PDT From: "John M. Relph" Subject: Re: What's all this brouhaha? >My favorite Halloween concert ever: They Might Be Giants with Poi >Dog Pondering opening. It was in Kansas City at a place called >The Grand Emporium. 1988, I think. Funny, I saw TMBG (with Poi opening) in San Francisco, must have been the same tour. (rustle, rustle...) In fact, I just looked it up, and it was 5 November, just a few days after you saw them. First time I had heard or seen Poi. Excellent show. Excellent. Can I say it again? (Nope.) I liked Poi so much I went out and bought their records and now I have everything I've been able to get my hands on. And the same of TMBG. Ah well. I'm not a total loss, really. -- John P.S. "Brouhaha? Ha ha ha." P.P.S. "When I get in this grandfather clock, you hit me over the head with this bottle of champagne, put in three dimes, and set the dial for 1,000..." ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: Siberry Breaches PBS Beachhead Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 23:47:45 PDT Vickie cheerily types: > Hello to you, welcome to Ecto! Thank you! > Never, that's the last thing you have to worry about on Ecto (unless > you say that Scotland is part of England. That's a no no) Right up there with saying that Canada is part of the US, I assume. :) Anyway, here's my completed form for your edification: Name: Neil K. Guy Abode: A low brown apartment building in East Vancouver, Canada Birthday: The same as Frederick Banting, Aaron Copland, Charlie Windsor and my ex-uncle Shoe Size: UK 8 1/2 US 9 1/2 EUR 43 CM 27.5 (on a good day) Mother's second cousin's wife's brother's daughter's middle name: She doesn't have one Quest: To ensure decent housing, nutrition, sanitation, water, education, social justice and happiness for every living person on this planet. Is that appropriately Grail-like? (grailish? grailene? grailous?) Failing that, I might settle for a recipe for a really good capuccino Nanaimo bar * and a lifetime's free rent. Airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow: Well, there's only one answer to that, isn't there? "African or European?" * ask Holly if you want to know what these are and you don't already. She's becoming an expert on the subject. :) > I've never heard of such a thing. How utterly cool! It was made in Bulgaria or Romania or some other country one might not immediately associate with large-scale beret production. At least, I don't remember seeing little berets drawn on MAJOR EXPORTS OF THE WORLD thematic maps. > If you ever want to get rid of it, put my name in the queue, ok? :-) Well, assuming I can ever find it. It may well be one of those items which evaporated mysteriously during my last move. Perhaps it has gone to a Better Place. > We have 3 Neil types now eh? NealC in San Diego and NeileG in Seattle > are the other two. Welcome! Neil, Neal and Neile, eh? Variants on a particularly scintillating theme! - Neil K. -- "To stand up or hang the coaster, pull up the wire leg on the rear side, straightly up without bending on either side." 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: What musical instruments do I play? Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 23:55:54 PDT Vickie remarks: > [...] Other > cool collaborations would be Virginia Astley, [...] Virginia Astley! Wow; that's a name I haven't heard for years. I still have "Hope in a Darkened Heart" and an old EP called "Melt the Snow" and a old Brave New Waves profile which contained a track included on some label compilation. Do you know if she's done anything since then? Or has she gone on to a fine career as a colour supplement editor or an estate agent or something? Oh, and for the record, I don't play anything. Except for my voice (baritone) which I occasionally play in the privacy of my apartment or in my car on empty stretches of highway. - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 20:06:34 +1300 Subject: At long last :) Yaaay!! I love Ecto!!! I've finally heard the three new Kate songs from the singles... :) Actually, I only listened to them once, last night, before I went to bed, but I'll say what I think anyhow. Actually, what I think is much the same as what I think most people think (checks the "think"s...) "Eat The Music" A bit different to what I had imagined it would be like - not quite as irritating as I had heard :) It's definitely KaTe, but I don't think it'll ever be a favourite... (I shall play it 'til I like it or I'm sick of it though I suppose :) "Rubberband Girl" Whereas I was slightly pleased to find that ETM wasn't as bad as I'd feared, I was a bit dissapointed with RBG, as most people seemed to have said they liked it, and it didn't do much for me on the first play at all. However, thinking back, I don't remember hearing what sort of a song it was anyway. (I hadn't expected quite such a poppy sound I guess.) Again, I shall play it much... Lastly, "Big Stripey Lie" This one didn't seem as weird to me as the reports suggested, but at the end I was happy - this was the Kate I know and love :) I am sure this will be my favourite of the three... I'm open to change, but at first play the other two just seemed too... forgettable? These are just my thoughts having listened to each song once, late at night, and I imagine I will refine them over time. I look forward to the album (whenever it arrives - ) Also, I have only just found out that I have access to a colour flatbed scanner here in the comp dept !!! I am planning to make scans of all the pictures in the TWW booklet, and if these are not available on an FTP site already, I would be happy to send the results to anyone willing to upload them to the appropriate place (I have no overseas FTP) Lastly, hello to Vickie who may be awake to read this when it arrives, as she has clearly been engaged in a marathon catch-up session over the last couple of hours :-) Fuzzies to all, Philip (who has just realised he meant "Bernard" not "Albert"!!! ) .________________________________________. ._______. | __ _ ___ _ __ __ |\________/| | | / / | / \ | \ | | | | / | _ _ | _O_ | | \_ | | | | |__/ |__| | | \_ | / \/ \ | |/ | | / | | | | | | | | | / | \ / | |\ | | \__ \_ | \_/ | | | | |__ \__ | \ / | T W W | |________________________________________| \/ |_______| \ Philip Sainty: psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz \________/ / `-------------------------------------------------------' "This is where I want to be This is what I need" --KT ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. 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