Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #357 ecto, Number 357 Friday, 30 October 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Arqueologia 2 Re: Abuse!!! Archaeology 3 Abuse!!! Re: Ecto archaeology, part two Scorpios Happy stuff Re:Re: Abuse Re:Re: Abuse Re:Re: Abuse Loreena McKennitt tour dates HAPPY Birthday archaiologia Last message Stuff ladyslipper catalog [Fuzzy] Blaubier Hier? and other stories A Big and Very Happy Birthday Maria de Medeiros Birthday wishes! happyness in miami happyness in miami Today's Your Birthday Friend... Happy Birthday ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 23:05:31 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Arqueologia 2 Hi! Talk about being behind on digests... The talk of Viya Con Dios was ages ago and I'd shelved my reply > Hey, es Vaya Con Dios. ;-) because I didn't want to resurrect the topic, but Klaus saved the day and gave me an excuse. :) I've heard two of their albums (in Germany, surprise surprise) and I think they're Belgian. > They are Belgian, in did. It's good stuff, if very European-sounding (like, I thought it was 70s music but was wrong). > European sounding ? As an European, the thought scares me !!!! > I think they have a sort of cheap pop-sounding...I would think > they are as European sounding as Roxette or Abba. :-) > nuno Well, this is long enough...more archaeology later! :) ============================================================================= Meredith Tarr m.tarr1@genie.geis.com America can't survive another four years... fight the idiocy on November 3rd ============================================================================= ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Abuse!!! Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 23:20:26 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Nuno spews: >I really think that all these people coming out saying that they were >abused is getting a bit ridiculous. "Oh, one day my mom spilled a >cup of hot tea on my brand new dress, and since then I have not been >able to drink any hot drink." Thank you for minimalizing other peoples' pain. I'm sure they're glad they felt empowered enough to be able to vocalize that pain so that you could have the fun of mocking them. After all, we exist for your pleasure (which means, of course, that everyone should shut up now because Nuno is tired of show 'n tell) Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 23:23:29 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Archaeology 3 Hi! We've talked about things literary before, so I'm going to add my thoughts to this- any objections, let me know. Nuno sez: } Probably, Madonna would wish to be as talented as Anais Nin. } Anais Nin was the daughter of Joaquin Nin, a famous Spanish } composer-pianist. She was influenced by writers such as } Proust, and Giradoux. And what about D.H. Lawrence? Her first published work was a critical text on his work. >> Yes !!!!! Actually, if you saw the movie, it is the only writer >> mentioned by Anais nin (Maria de Medeiros). } While she was still an aspiring writer, she met Henry } Miller, then not as famous for his writings as he became } later with such books as "Tropic Of Cancer". She developed } a friendship with Miller and a had a love/sexual } relationship with him for sometime. Not to mention his wife. :) >> Hey, we were talking about Henry Miller and Anais Nin. Leave >> poor June alone, will ya !!! ;-) } People usually think of both as erotic writers, but } I am not too much at ease with that sort of labeling as far } as Anais Nin writings. Um, well, _Delta Of Venus_ seemed plenty erotic to me when I read it, but I may just have fragile sensibilities. :} >> Mabe ! Personally, I like her writing much better than Henry Milleer's. >> Well, I confess that I don't have appreciation for Miller's writing. Angelos notes: }I really don't know what the *real* Anais Nin looked like... Maria De Madeiros, who portrayed Anais Nin in _Henry And June_, looked remarkably like the real Anais Nin. IMO DeMadeiros is >> Sorry for my ignorance, but why do in English people put together >> a preposition (de) with a family name (Medeiros). >> I guess someone who had no knowledge of romance languages came up >> with this rule. >> Nuno ****************** below stuff that I didn't delete from Meredith's previous message***************************************************** Steve declares: }Kate Bush is the Mother }Jane Siberry is the Daughter }Happy Rhodes is the Holy Ghost }Madonna (darn, I used the name) is Satan. }Or, as I usually designate her, the Anti-Kate. Ha! That's really funny. I tend to agree (oh Valerie please don't hurt me), except IMVHO Tori Amos is the Jeff raves about Pamela Golden: }"Normal Life" is _brilliant_, sounding to me like a cross }between Gabriel, KaTe, and Tori. I was amazed at how much the }vocals reminded me of Tori. Something about her vocal style, I }guess. It's only that one song that makes me think of }Tori though. Weird. That song alone, though, may be worth the }price of the album. That urged me to put the album in my player, and you're right. I LOVE that song. It's a very good album, but the fact that Gabriel's backup band plays throughout just bleeds through constantly. I like this album a lot. I know a few seconds ago I just posted some Ecto Archaeology of my own regarding this subject, but hey. Beer is good. Most especially Weissbier!!! Mitch crossposts: }Spaten Weiss is indeed a wheat beer, actually made with a }barley/ white mix. Weiss beers are also very yeasty, with the }best ones having a yeast setiment in the beer. They are a }speciality of Bavaria, and Spaten is one of the "big seven" }breweries in Munich. Spaten is not, however, the best Weiss }Bier (or Weizen). I'd recommend Franziskaner, Erdinger, or }Schneider. For what it's worth, Franziskaner is also a Spaten Bier- my sister managed to procure a case of same in New Haven a year ago, and I still have two bottles, which I'm hoarding for a VERY special occasion. :) By far the best Weissbier I ever had in Germany was Erdinger- it's a brewery in Erding, just outside of Munich, that makes nothing but Weissbier. That's what was served in the pub in the building where I lived, and what was stocked in the fridge on my floor. Good stuff, yum. :d I now return you to your regularly scheduled talk of music and- what's her name? Oh yeah. Happy Rhodes. :) ============================================================================= Meredith Tarr m.tarr1@genie.geis.com America can't survive another four years... fight the idiocy on November 3rd ============================================================================= ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 20:24:04 PST From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Abuse!!! Nuno, also known as mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu writes: > I really think that all these people coming out saying that they were > abused is getting a bit ridiculous. "Oh, one day my mom spilled a > cup of hot tea on my brand new dress, and since then I have not been > able to drink any hot drink." Well, that's just a bit of exageration > on my part, but it really gets on my nerves all this whinning. Perhaps there are two problems here. One is that not everyone is able to deal with their childhood traumas, even if those traumas don't really qualify as child abuse. Another is that child abuse is common. I'm not inclined to discount people's claims of child abuse. For example, I have a congenital condition known as osteogenesis imperfecta, so in my life to date I've had about 45 bone fractures, most in my childhood. None of them were caused by abuse, but without abuse I nevertheless had a lot of traumatic events in my childhood. I can easily understand why some people might carry traumatic memories around with them; in my case I sort of feel like I had to deal with it all as a result of continual repetition -- I couldn't just suppress memories of one break when another would happen soon after. So I'd say that I'd rather see people "whining", and encouraging honesty and understanding of their traumas, because dealing with traumatic events, and especially child abuse, is not helped by ignorance. Interestingly enough, parents of children with osteogenesis imperfecta are often accused of abuse, because the child has so many more fractures than normal. In fact, an infant in Eugene was recently in the news when he was taken from his home by the Oregon Children's Services division. The parents claimed he had been diagnosed with osteogenesis imperfecta by their doctor, but the CSD wanted to wait for another doctor to make the same diagnosis. The CSD also claimed that the child was at risk because the mother's former husband in another state had threatened to abuse her children by him, causing her to give them up for adoption at a very early age. ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Ecto archaeology, part two Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 23:27:42 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Meredith quoted me: >> Jeff raves about Pamela Golden: >> }It's only that one song that makes me think of >> }Tori though. and then Vickie repsonded: >Yes, me too (but you knew that) and you are right when you said >(awhile back) that there are elements of Jane in Pamela's music. >The song "Happens All the Time" is the one where she moves her >voice around just like Jane does. You beat me to it! I was finishing reading my waiting mail before responding to Meredith's posting and pointing out how utterly well Pamela Golden pulls off her Jane impersonation. In addition, I've realized that it isn't only "Normal Life" in which I hear shades of Tori. It's all over the album and particularly noticeable in a bunch of places, including "Normal Life" and "Happens All The Time". In fact, I mentioned the album to the friend of mine who used to use "Silent All These Years" in competitions for her stunt kite ballet routines, and I said something about "here and there she sounds a bit like Tori Amos." I played "Ballet Dream" and "Happens All the Time" and as soon as the second song started, Sherrie gave a bit of a start and said "That *does* sound just like Tori!" Sherrie was a bit surprised when I told her that Pamela Golden's album had come out *before* Tori's. At least now we know who all the folks in the music press should have compared Tori to when _Little Earthquakes_. Except, of course, that it seems that everyone ignored Golden's album. Everyone except the person who picked her for the shoe commercial. ( I somehow just managed to randomly hit the keys I currently have mapped (unbeknownst to me) to convert the entire document to all caps. It suddenly looked like the above was yelling! Fortuntely, the undo buffer still held the original....) Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 23:28:03 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Scorpios With so many Scorpios around, this sounds like fun...My birthday is on the 11th of November !!!!!!!! Bed Size: Big ! Shoe size: X-large ! I might not look [RIGHT!], but I will be 26 !!!!!! TWENTY SIX! Argghhhhh! Nuno ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 20:37:15 PST From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Happy stuff In contrast to the more serious tone of my last message :-) Isn't "Lay Me Down" absolutely the most amazing Happy song ever made? Well, it certainly seems that way now. I lent a couple of my friends my other copy of _Warpaint_ (always buy more than one!), after one of them tried to convince me how great Anita Baker was (I got as far as admitting she had a good voice, but the music was bland bland bland). They say they really like "Waking Up", not a song I've ever claimed as a major Happy favorite but clearly Happy appeals to different people in different ways. My friend Norm played _Warpaint_ for a couple of his friends and they immediately got the address for Aural Gratification and ordered it. Unfortunately I haven't been keeping track whether my copy I lent to a radio DJ has been being played; my main liability is that I rarely listen to the radio. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 23:41:38 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Re:Re: Abuse Nuno spews: >I really think that all these people coming out saying that they were >abused is getting a bit ridiculous. "Oh, one day my mom spilled a >cup of hot tea on my brand new dress, and since then I have not been >able to drink any hot drink." Thank you for minimalizing other peoples' pain. I'm sure they're glad they felt empowered enough to be able to vocalize that pain so that you could have the fun of mocking them. After all, we exist for your pleasure (which means, of course, that everyone should shut up now because Nuno is tired of show 'n tell) Jeff >> I meant that a lot of people are just plain >> beig opportunistic (is there such a word ?) about the whole thing ! >> It is plain ridiculous that all of a sudden half of Hollywood is coming >> out to the media saying "Oh, you know, I was abused !" Did you understand >> know what I meant ? I hope you did ! >> Nuno ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 20:53:20 PST From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Re:Re: Abuse [Hmm. Let's hope that "Abuse" isn't going to become an all too appropriate title for this thread.] Nuno writes: >> I meant that a lot of people are just plain >> beig opportunistic (is there such a word ?) about the whole thing ! >> It is plain ridiculous that all of a sudden half of Hollywood is coming >> out to the media saying "Oh, you know, I was abused !" Did you understand >> know what I meant ? I hope you did ! They are only being opportunistic if they are making the stories up. Jeff has an equally important point (although one stated a bit bluntly). Child abuse continues to a great extent because it is covered up and ignored. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 0:34:46 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re:Re: Abuse Nuno, your editor is on drugs or something. Let's see if I can figure this out... ok> Nuno spews: > > >I really think that all these people coming out saying that they were > >abused is getting a bit ridiculous. "Oh, one day my mom spilled a > >cup of hot tea on my brand new dress, and since then I have not been > >able to drink any hot drink." Was there someone in particular that you're talking about? Something that brought on this hostility towards people who say they were abused? I'm serious, I'd really like to know what you mean. Anyway, I was talking about things such as Happy's abuse (at the hands of her stepmother) and Toni Childs' abuse at the hands of her father, and I honestly can't see where you fit hot tea into this. These people wrote about their pain in their music, they didn't go to the National Enquirer with it. Then Jeff-with-the-long-black-hair: > Thank you for minimalizing other peoples' pain. I'm sure they're glad > they felt empowered enough to be able to vocalize that pain so that > you could have the fun of mocking them. After all, we exist for your > pleasure (which means, of course, that everyone should shut up now because > Nuno is tired of show 'n tell) Well, first, this is a music list, and I was in a melancholy mood, so it was my fault for saying anything. Many people just, to quote Happy, "don't want to hear it" and are uncomfortable with talk of any kind of abuse. That's understandable. Second, people in pain, when they do learn to verbalize their pain, will have to contend with people who don't understand and/or make fun of them. It's just something that people in pain have to learn to deal with. Third, Ecto is no place for a flame war about anything, let alone abuse, so it's better to just drop the subject now. Then Nuno again: > >> I meant that a lot of people are just plain > >> beig opportunistic (is there such a word ?) about the whole thing ! > >> It is plain ridiculous that all of a sudden half of Hollywood is coming > >> out to the media saying "Oh, you know, I was abused !" Did you understand > >> know what I meant ? I hope you did ! Yes, opportunistic is a word. Um, you don't have to read or watch these things if you don't want to, but if they help other people, say, fans of the people who say they were abused, to admit to their own abuse and get help, then it's been a good thing. One last thought: Victims of abuse who want to get help have to walk a fine line between thinking that asking for and getting help is the right thing to do, and worrying that they're going to be perceived as just wanting attention, or feeling sorry for themselves. As long as the abuse isn't your problem, and it isn't affecting you, why begrudge them for coming forward? It takes a lot of courage to come forward and I doubt that these people, whoever it is you may be talking about, are pleased that they were abused so they could use it in an "opportunistic" fashion. A little compassion goes a long way... Vickie ======================================================================== From: bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Michael Bowman) Subject: Loreena McKennitt tour dates Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 21:54:43 PST I just got the tour dates for Loreena McKennitt. They are: 10/24 - Calgary, Jack Singer Hall 10/25 - Saskatoon, Brodway Theatre 10/28 - Lennoxville Quebec, Centennial Theatre 10/30 - Woodstock VT, Town Hall Theater 11/1 - Cambridge MA, The Night Stage 11/2 - Northampton MA, The Iron Horse 11/4 - New York, Bottom Line 11/5 - Beltsville MD, Capital College Theater 11/6 - Philadelphia, Theater of Living Arts 11/8 - London ON, Alumni Hall 11/9 - Ann Arbor MI, The Ark 11/11 - Chicago, Park West 11/12 - Minneapolis, The Fine Line 11/14 - Boulder CO, The Boulder Theater 11/16 - Fort Worth TX, Caravan of Dreams 11/19 - Tucson AZ, Social Sciences Auditorium, U of A 11/20 - Los Angeles, Schoenberg Hall 11/21 - San Francisco, Great American Music Hall 11/22 - Edmonton, Myer Horowitz Theater Michael Bowman bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 12:56:56 +0000 From: Terry Partis Subject: HAPPY Birthday Here's wishing a very HAPPY birthday to Jessica Dembski on October 29th. Have a nice year Terry =============================================================================== _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' Terry (Tel Boy) Partis \_.-._( ''' _ __ (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) _ __ / `-' ( ,,, With a smile and a song / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] I'm HaPpY | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' \_.-._( ''' YYUR - YYUB - ICURYY4ME ================================================================================ ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: archaiologia Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:10:56 EST Hi, It should be spelled that way, with ch representing the greek letter chi. Note the 'ai' is a diphthong (that's what we call it in greek) and is pronounced 'e' as in ben, and not a-i as in the erasmian pronounciation of greek. I think Nuno writes: >> Sorry for my ignorance, but why do in English people put together >> a preposition (de) with a family name (Medeiros). >> I guess someone who had no knowledge of romance languages came up >> with this rule. I believe the de is used when the surname is obtained through a marriage. At least that's how my sister explained it to me, she is 'de Walter' in Ecuador... Angelos 'Atmospherics after dark, noise and voices from the past Across the dial from Moscow to Cologne Interference in the night, thousand miles on either side Stations fading into the unknown...' ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 10:17:43 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Last message I think I owe an apology to those that thought that my message in any way or format was offensive. I didn't mean it to be and in anyway I was referring, in that message, to anyone who has in fact been abused. I thought that had been cleared on my second message, but it just brought more questions. Nuno ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 14:43:36 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Stuff Hi, It should be spelled that way, with ch representing the greek letter chi. Note the 'ai' is a diphthong (that's what we call it in greek) and is pronounced 'e' as in ben, and not a-i as in the erasmian pronounciation of greek. I think Nuno writes: >> Sorry for my ignorance, but why do in English people put together >> a preposition (de) with a family name (Medeiros). >> I guess someone who had no knowledge of romance languages came up >> with this rule. I believe the de is used when the surname is obtained through a marriage. At least that's how my sister explained it to me, she is 'de Walter' in Ecuador... >>> What I really meant was why they put it together like DeMedeiros >>> when in fact is de Medeiros. I am afraid that you are wrong about >>> the surname, I am de Figueiredo and I got it from my family. Angelos 'Atmospherics after dark, noise and voices from the past Across the dial from Moscow to Cologne Interference in the night, thousand miles on either side Stations fading into the unknown...' >>> M. Nuno de Figueiredo ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:53:45 EST From: kurious erenj Subject: ladyslipper catalog i seem to recall someone asking about the ladyslipper catalog a day or so ago. i received my 1993 catalog yesterday. i haven't had time to look through it in depth, but all of happy's releases are listed as available on cd. only _warpaint_ is available on cassette anymore it seems. hmmm. i wonder if happy and kevin still have copies of the tapes for sale. anybody know? or maybe i'll just call them... woj ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 13:57:03 CST From: The Unarkansas Untraveler Subject: [Fuzzy] Blaubier Hier? and other stories As I write this, I`m listening to the special election edition of _The Midnight Special_. They just played "The Ballad of Ross Perot, Part 2" by The Phero- mones, which included what strikes me as the most imaginative turn of phrase in any lyric I've heard today: "He'll be another Lyndon--not Johnson, but LaRouche." They say you can order the tape by calling (800) 448-4686. Moments ago, they relayed a late report that Sinead O'Connor is quitting pop music to study opera in Dublin. She was quoted as saying that this was her ultimate ambition all along, and that she went into pop only to obtain a forum for her views. Now, if I can remember what I was going to write about before this came up... Oh yes. It was with a heavy heart, as President Lyndon (not LaRouche, but Johnson) used to say during my misspent adolescence, that I titled this essay with a mixed linguistic metaphor; but the dictionary upstairs only goes from German to Engl- ish (unlike the Serbo-Croatian dictionary to its immediate right on the shelf, which is bidirectional), so I was unable to look up the German translation of "fuzzy." Hopefully, you get the idea anyhow. :-) Many of Meredith's thoughts on Spaten Weiss mirror the surprisingly high volume of answers that the good people of alt.beer (not to be confused with the good person of Szechuan :-), as the aspirants to political correctness over at the Goodman Theater recently desexed the title of Brecht's classic play) sent me in response to my query late last Friday afternoon. Should anyone want more info on this fascinating fluid, I'll be happy to share my file of email on the sub- ject. True to my well-known prediliction for the perverse, the thought occurred to me that the St. Patrick's day tradition, at least in certain Chicago bars, of serving green lager could be adapted for next year's Happymas. If a quantity of Weissbier is properly agitated to disperse the yeast throughout the fluid volume, thus rendering it cloudy (about as close to fuzzy as a clear liquid can hope to get), and then adulterated with blue dye, the end result could be seen as a fuzzy blue beer of sorts. Speaking subjectively, it couldn't be any worse than Mr. Pure Bahama Blue Punch (q.v.); admittedly, this fails to resolve the question of whether, to paraphrase the old Pepsi-Cola jingle, the concoction being proposed here would genuinely hit the Spaten :-). I was interested to read of Laura's notion that the Umbilical Girl's latest persona, Dita the Dominatrix, is modeled after a German silent star of the 20s. (I have no idea what her name was either; you sure you're not really thinking of Marlene Dietrich?) I would hate to think that she was modeled after the only other Dita I know of, which is Dita Beard, the ITT lobbyist whose corrupt acts in suppport of the Republican National Committee in 1972 semi-foreshadowed Watergate. Seriously, the image of dominatrices (math class may be tough, but what wordplay it can inspire) fits in well with the reality of Berlin in the Jazz Age, though I'm not sure precisely what proportion of the film output had that motif. While on the subject of Madonna, today's Sun-Times had a squib that she and Sandra Bernhard are no longer together; it mentioned who Sandra's with now (or was it who Madonna's with), but I forget who it is. In re Meredith's query about real or imagined ISBN's on CD's: I think those are, indeed, actualy UPC's (Universal Product Codes), particularly if accom- panied by bar patterns. I can't say with complete certainty, but I think many imports also have them. Meredith's stimulus, and Vickie's response: > America can't survive another four years... fight the idiocy on November 3rd > ============================================================================= >So close, yet so far away.... Reportedly, the constitutional referendum in Canada had a 72% voter turnout. I can't remember when any elecion Stateside could make that statement. Always nice to dream... In re the queries by Nuno and/or others on the source and meaning of the "de" in Maria de Madeiros: an article on _Henry and June_ in a 1990 issue of _American Film_ magazine noted that MdM was a prominent film actress in her native Portugal. So presumably it conforms to whatever the linguistic conven- tion is there. Last week, _All Things Considered_'s obit feature on Red Barber noted that on NPR, he supposedly was a sports commentator; but the subject matter of his live appearances on _Morning Edition_ actually went pretty much wherever he wanted them to go. The thread on abuse should serve as a reminder that ecto is very much in that tradition. Ostensibly, this is a music list in general and a Happy Rhodes list in particular; in practice, the subject matter of our posts goes wherever we, individually and collectively, want it to. And we all know that it is from this characteristic that the list derives much of its charm and, ultimately, its greatness--even if, to paraphrase the classic characteri- zation of the _Los Angeles Times_, it sometimes presents the superficial appearance to the uninitiated of having been edited with a _spaten_ :-). Mitch Pravatiner ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 17:26:33 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: A Big and Very Happy Birthday To Jessica 'ecto princess' Dembski ...! Thank you for our fuzzy blue list. Cheers, and may you have many more, Mp ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 20:35:22 EST From: mpf0642@tesla.njit.edu Subject: Maria de Medeiros She lives in PAris where she studied and has been a theater actres. family, including her sister and also actress , Ines de Medeiros, live in Portugal. Nuno ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: Birthday wishes! Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 16:20:11 WST A big Happy Birthday to the Ecto-Goddess herself! -- ,---------------------------------------------------------------. _ . | So we chase the explosions Martin Dougiamas. | _r| Ll\ | From horizon to horizon, martin@cs.curtin.edu.au | | | \ | Wrap ourselves around the distance Curtin University | \ |_ / | For as long as we can hold. Perth, Western Australia -+-> x~ `-' `= Slow Pulse Boy - And Also The Trees =========================' V ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: happyness in miami Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 12:54:21 EST Hi, I will have the pleasure to see Loreena McKennitt live this Sunday at Nightstage. If any other ectophiles are going, let's meet outside of Toscanini's at 7:15, and drop me e-mail about it so I know that you are coming.Then I am on my way to Miami on Monday for a week-long conference [right! ;)]. Any suggestions on good record stores and things to do in Miami other than lie on the beach and absorb UV rays? :) And now for some happy-induced weird observations: A friend of mine is visiting me this week, and has the honour of sleeping in my livingroom sofa. He took me by surprise yesterday when he said: 'That Happy Rhodes person sure knows how to paint'. I of course went on about what the monsters are, and offered to play some music for him, but then he surprised me even more, by mentioning that his favorites on the poster where Rearmament and Warpaint. I looked in awe and said but they are only photographs, the monsters are the paintings. And then he went on about how he liked the multitude of interpretations that the colorized GIFs have, and how all these faces and demonic figures are hiding behind bodies. I of course asked him what drugs he was on (none it turns out), and then I started staring at the GIFs in the poster. And they were there alright. So, if you have the ability to use xv on a color display, I strongly recommend you use a random colormap on the rearmament.gif and warpaint.gif in the archives and let your imagination go wild. Yet another aspect of how art combined with scanning effects and computer technology is an art in itself. Thanks Jessica! :) Angelos 'If U set your mind free honey maybe u'd understand starfish and coffee, maple syrup and jam' ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 10:29:49 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: happyness in miami Angelos, Every time i get near Miami i try to reserve a day to drive down to Key West. I really love that highway over turquoise water. It is a long drive, but worth it. Stay and watch the sunset & the carnival it attracts almost every day. Waah, it is cold & wet here today ... how much does a flight to the tropics cost today ...!? Have fun, Mp ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 21:01:43 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Today's Your Birthday Friend... HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Jessica, the Ecto Goddess Lady! Words cannot express... Thank you Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 08:26:00 +0000 From: Terry Partis Subject: Happy Birthday Here's wishing a very HAPPY birthday to Katie Dougiamas on 2nd. November. Terry =============================================================================== _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' Terry (Tel Boy) Partis \_.-._( ''' _ __ (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) _ __ / `-' ( ,,, With a smile and a song / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] I'm HaPpY | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' \_.-._( ''' YYUR - YYUB - ICURYY4ME ================================================================================ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)