4-Oct-91 5:05:50-GMT,657;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12979; Fri, 4 Oct 91 01:05:17 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06662; Fri, 4 Oct 91 01:05:14 EDT Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 01:05:14 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9110040505.AA06662@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: *big*smiles*!! I talked to Happy tonight!!!!! :):):) She's *very* interested and wants me to send a tape!! She says there's no rush, she's not going to consider anyone else seriously yet - so as soon as I'm over the cold i'll make a tape!! I'll write more details tomorrow!! jessica 4-Oct-91 11:35:02-GMT,2163;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27907; Fri, 4 Oct 91 07:34:34 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA22978; Fri, 4 Oct 91 12:30:31 +0100 Message-Id: <9110041133.AA28810@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: Happy vs. KaTe / photos Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Fri, 04 Oct 91 12:33:31 N From: Klaus Kluge I can understand why so many people compare Happy to KaTe. Actually I am tempted to do it myself, although I try hard to resist (most of the time I manage to). We've already noticed how difficult it is to describe her music and voice (especially in one sentence) as you can't put her into one of the drawers of the musical cabinet. So what to do when someone askes you about her music? Do you take the time and effort to explain it the longer (but correct) way, or do you simply say 'oh, she sounds like KaTe Bush'? Re: photos I'm afraid I have to disagree with Vickie, Jessica and ...., whoever wrote that Happy has to get used to have pictures taken. Sure, it helps, but I don't think it is essential. You might as well say she has to get into some scandals just to get more promotion. But there are so many artists I love and who are very popular where hardly anyone knows what they look like. Sure, for us hard-core fans (incl. myself) photos are the cream on the cake, but not for the majority. I think that the quality of the product is most important. If the quality is not that good you need more promotion (photos, etc.) to get to the top. You can't reverse it to 'if the quality is superb you don't need promotion', but having pictures taken is not compulsory. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 4-Oct-91 14:40:55-GMT,4417;000000000011 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15473; Fri, 4 Oct 91 10:40:39 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA29935; Fri, 4 Oct 91 08:41:34 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA15373; Fri, 4 Oct 91 08:35:47 MDT Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 08:35:47 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9110041435.AA15373@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Wrong Century Greetings, It's amazing the number of interpretations we're getting here. So why not stick mine into the middle of this mess? Let's start with Vickie's hint: > Hints: American Indian Man. Modern Day Woman. Time travel? No. Yes, but you reversed the genders :-). To my mind, the time traveller is a woman, definitely from the past and maybe Amerind (especially considering the rest of the album (though I don't think it really matters)), and her greeter is male. The only fly in the ointment of this reading is the "peaceful man" phrase. I look as it as Happy using 'man' in its generic, non-gender sense. However, I hope that this quibbling over the metaphoric trees doesn't blind us to the forest. "Wrong Century" is one of the keystones of _Warpaint_. I earlier described my views of the thematic evolution of her first four albums. Well, _Warpaint_ is the next natural step. Happy is irretrievably in the real world, and doesn't particularly like what she sees. With the horrors gone, her past takes on a nostalgic cast of idyllic peace and quiet. Yet she remains determined to stay in the real world. Let's look at "Wrong Century" in this light. The song starts with the narrator, who obviously is Happy, passing pleasant time on the hill (her shutting out the world). Through divine intervention (the angelic voice), she is pulled into the real world (the wrong century). On her arrival, she is not very happy with the world and the world is not very happy with her. I see "Now let me get this straight, Man. Not only I am woman, ..." as a jab at the sexism still extant in this society (which underscores my opinion of the genders). The fast pace and over- evelopment of the world bothers her (Hell, it bothers me, which is why I get into the wilderness as often as I can). In some ways, she misses her past (her hill), when she didn't have to worry about the world or its people. Life was much simpler then. Yet she is determined to stick with the real world. ("I will not live in fear of self-destruct", "Still, I make a home in this wrong century".) This general theme runs through many songs on _Warpaint_, each looking at it in different directions. "Feed the Fire" is the most interesting song, with its description of Happy's deal with life. However, I find it fascinating that Happy ended the album with "In Hiding", lyrically most like the songs of her earlier albums, showing her continuing uncertainty, but still emphasiing the oft-made point that music led the way out. Where does our other contentious _Warpaint_ song "Terra Incognita" fit in here? Well, nowhere actually. Happy's imagination is just taking a playful romp looking through a different world in a different body, definitely a cat, given the clues presented by others here. The details (while fun to argue about) don't really matter. Just enjoy the wonder of exploring a whole fresh new world, and the pure joy of living, jumping, flying, and chasing flutterby. (On second thought, I could squeeze this song in my earlier framework by claiming that it expresses the fun side of her exploration of the real world. However, this stretches the analogy to the breaking point.) Non-Happy stuff: Hey, it's snowing! Our overdue first snow of the winter arrived with a trace falling and one or two inches expected tonight. The Front Range looks gorgeous with its fresh mantle of white. The first snow of the year is always magic and fun, even though I know I will be sick of the snow and the cold before January ends. (The snow and cold won't leave until April does!) I'm enjoying it while I can. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! I finally typed "ecto@atmos.rutgers.edu". Bounce. Bounce. Bounce. 4-Oct-91 15:15:08-GMT,2010;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19595; Fri, 4 Oct 91 11:14:56 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA08120; Fri, 4 Oct 91 10:16:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 4 Oct 91 07:28:07 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07609; Fri, 4 Oct 91 07:28:05 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 4 Oct 91 07:03 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 07:03 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Photos Vickie here. I must have lost a whole buch of stuff, unless it was just my posts that never appeared at my site, but I did just get Klaus' article about photos. It's true that an artist shouldn't be *forced* into having their photo taken, and you're right, there are lots of well-known musicians who are pratically anon because their picture is hardly ever taken. But in America, at least, photos seem to be prized much more. Ingraned "Media Image" type-of-thing, I suppose. Anyway, no matter what the situation is on the professional scene regarding photos (whatever happens will happen) Happy will more than likely provide Ectozine with photos every now and then. I had asked before and she said no, but we talked about it the other night and she seemed much more open to the suggestion that there should be photos in the zine. Fans like to see photos of their artist. She knows that and really, feels the same way about the people she likes. We'll see. I'd never push her, but I also think that she should know how fans (some fans anyway...me, for instance) feel about wanting photos for the zine. Certainly, the main point is that the *music* is what matters most, and I'd rather have one album than a thousand photos any day. Photos are nice though... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 4-Oct-91 15:21:59-GMT,4174;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20226; Fri, 4 Oct 91 11:21:53 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA08117; Fri, 4 Oct 91 10:16:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 4 Oct 91 06:56:56 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06206; Fri, 4 Oct 91 06:56:53 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 4 Oct 91 06:51 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 06:51 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Brief Anecdotal Interlude (How I Found Happy Pt. II) Vickie here. "Vickie's Happy Story, Pt. II, aka You Shouldn't Have Asked :-)" Where was I? Oh yeah... Who *IS* this person???? I made John, right then and there, call Bob Davis in San Francisco to get *any* information whatsoever. John and I are quite a team when it comes to tracking people down. {Brief anecdotal interlude that has nothing to do with Happy, but might, in the future: John had found an album in St. Louis by a...woman...named Riz. He brought it on one of his visits and I fell in love with it too. I even played various songs on my show. We wanted to track this person down, but there was no information whatsoever on the album. John tried various things and I tried various things. I looked very closely at all the liner notes and saw, in tiny letters, the name of the studio where the album had been recorded. I called information and got the number of the studio. I called and asked the person who answered if he remembered a woman named Riz who recorded an album there. He started laughing. Yeah, except that Riz is a boy. ?What? Yeah, he's just a kid, 17, 18, something like that. You see, Riz's voice on the album sounds something like Marianne Faithful or Nico. Not exactly like them, but low. The photos on the album were very vague, and we thought it looked like an extremely interesting-looking young woman, dressed in black, no makeup, short wavy hair, sensitive face. John and I both thought so, and we both felt slightly silly when we found out the truth. Anyway, (really, this is interesting and is somewhat Happy-related) the studio owner, who was the person who answered the phone, passed on my name and phone number to Riz. Riz called me and we connected immediately, because within the first minute of conversation, it was established that Riz was a Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel fan. We talked about them for a long time, and about lots of other things. He heard the whole story of John and I trying to track him down, and I heard the interesting (but I won't tell it here) story of who he was and how he came to make his album. To make a long, fascinating story short, John and Riz got in contact, John quit his job, moved to LA to be Riz's manager, Riz is temporarily working as a bass player for a terrible band that I can't remember the name of, but that will probably make it very big, good, so that Riz will make money and contacts needed to quit and record a second album, become very well-respected as a singer/songwriter/musician (he's really, truly brilliant!) and go on to work someday with Happy if at all possible and I hope it happens because if Happy is the closest thing we'll ever get to an American Kate Bush (no way will I ever say that in gaffa again!) then Riz is the closest thing we'll ever get to an American Peter Gabriel (the only male musician who fits) and they just simply *MUST* collaborate someday, that's all there is to it. They almost did a few years ago. Happy was going to do the vocals on one of Riz's very ethereal songs, but Riz didn't really have the money to go into the studio and record it properly. So they do know of each other. The point is that it all started becasue bought an unknown record and, luckily, the recording studio's phone number was listed and easy for me to find} {End of brief anecdotal interlude} End of "Vickie's Happy Story, Pt. II, aka You Shouldn't Have Asked :-)" Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 4-Oct-91 15:26:04-GMT,9943;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20579; Fri, 4 Oct 91 11:25:49 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA08113; Fri, 4 Oct 91 10:16:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 4 Oct 91 05:50:05 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA03700; Fri, 4 Oct 91 05:50:04 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 4 Oct 91 05:40 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 05:40 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: "Happy says" ....SPOILERS for Wrong Century Vickie here. >> TI was definitely inspired by Happy's cat Barney Parker. A woman Happy >> didn't even know very well gave her one of those sticks. It was on her >> desk and Barney jumped up to watch Happy playing with it. Happy got very >> enthralled just watching Barney watch the glass, and that's how the song >> got started. > This is a perfect example of the weirdest thing about the > mailing list 'n such: you sit down and hastily write out an interpretation > of a song...and a day or two later, you find out that you're "correct." Actually, Happy told Kiri about Barney Parker and Kiri posted it in Ecto a couple of months ago. Or were you just talking about the "glass thingys?" > I put correct in quotes because I don't want to detract from interpreta- > tions that are supportable through examples in the lyrics. That's part of > the beauty of all this--everybody can understand the song to mean something > else, and it *can* mean that, even if it's not exactly what the artist had > in mind. The work of art takes on its own meaning. Witness the recent > arguments about SiG in r.m.g. Oh absolutely, we can all have our own intrepretations of what songs are about. "Explanations" can't (usually) change a person's *emotions* concerning a song. Happy's songs are normally so emotion-based and it is rare that she tells actual stories. There are more on Warpaint than on any other album. We can debate and question the meaning of songs like Wrong Century and Terra Incognita because they tell stories that we like to figure out, but it wouldn't happen with a song like "Lay Me Down" or "Till the Dawn Breaks" or "Ode" because those songs are strictly emotion-based, not storytelling, though I like and agree with Doug's idea that "Ode" is Happy's Deserderata. **** {This next paragraph contains a spoiler for Wrong Century} **** However, the storytelling songs also have emotion in them and, even if you "know" what the song is about, it (hopefully) wouldn't change the way the emotions affect you. Wrong Century, for instance, may be about an American Indian man who is reincarnated as a modern day woman, but there's so much there that anyone who's ever felt like an outsider can identify with. The listener doesn't have to believe in reincarnation. I don't, (though it's a nice thought) yet I love the lyrics of WC just because I've felt disorented all my life. **** {End spoiler warning} **** I grew up with an invisible t-shirt asking "Do I really belong here?" which has certainly been answered to my satisfaction, yet I can still remember what it feels like, and even now pops up every now and then. Anyone read my post in gaffa where I said that, the only time I feel weird about our apartment is when non-Kate fans come over and see all the Kate posters we have? I have to fight the urge to feel "weird" when, any other time, it doesn't bother me, I don't even think about being strange at all. That's the sort of Wrong Century-ish identification I feel, though it has nothing to do with the song or its literal "meaning." I have cats, so I can identify with Terra Incognita, but for the longest time I also thought it was about a child, like Mitch. Happy's cat explan- ation made me go "oh yeah, of course" but didn't stop me from seeing the song *also* from a child's-eye point of view, which is certainly valid, even if it isn't "correct." > It's very strange not being in a vacuum, though. Usually one examines a > poem, a song, a painting, a novel in isolation and forms their own > opinion. We're still in that vacuum when we interpret Happy's songs, but > as soon as that interpretation is voiced on Ecto (TML) we get feedback > from the artist herself. Is this a bad thing? I wonder. I can't see it as a problem, though I admit it is very strange. I don't think you're suggesting that I should stop with the "Happy said" posts, but maybe it does bother some people. On the one hand, we have easier and quicker access to our artist than any other mailing list, that I know of. This is a good thing (IMO) because it makes us unique, and it makes us pretty well informed. We have quick access to information and tidbits that would be filtered through many other people if the artist were someone else. Most importantly, it gives us a closer bond with Happy herself. Maybe I'm just too close to it and can't see any major disadvantages, if in fact there are any, to having such close contact with an artist I practically idolize. The problems I see, that I've voiced before, is that it will affect the readers/listeners in some way. For instance, maybe someone not wanting to say a certain thing because they know it will be read by Happy (or Kevin, if it has something to do with him) but I don't know if it's been a factor in this newsgroup. Is Ecto a "kind and gentle" mailing list because of its atmosphere/outlook/philosophy/whatever or is it mainly because no one wants to hurt Happy's feelings by saying anything that might do so? I would be the last one to know the answer to that question, but my personal opinion is that it's because of the mutual wavelength and good "vibes" that abound here. We all have mutual interest in Happy's music, that's been established. In varying degrees, and in varying ways, but no one is here (anymore) who isn't interested in Happy in *some* way. There are Ectophiles who have never posted anything at all (hello) but they're still on the list. Why would someone who isn't involved emotionally or mentally in the music stay with Ecto? Why clutter their mailbox? They must be interested and maybe some of those quiet people will feel comfortable enough to speak up at some point. Not that there's any pressure to, I don't want to give that kind of impression to anyone. If they're here they must like being here and that's good enough for me. Jeff, I didn't read your comment to be a complaint, just something to think about. Happy wonders about the wisdom of trying to "explain" everything and won't give us all the information we might want. She's not going to tell us what the "oriental man" speil is about, or its exact wording, for one example. There will always be things to talk about when it comes to Happy's music and lyrics and career but I probably should think twice before jumping in with a "Happy said" post when it comes to interpreting what a song is really about. You see, even I don't really agree with Mitch when it comes to Happy putting *all* the lyrics on the lyric sheet. Even though I like to know what's being said at all times, there have to be some things left unsaid, and some things left unexplained. Though, there maybe should be time limits. Look how long Kate waited (was it 2 or 3 years?) before finally providing the answer to the "Watching You Without Me" contest. That's too long just to translate a line of lyric that *nobody* ever got right. She still has not ever given any indication that she will someday tell us what the line in "Experiment IV" is. But then, that was never a contest either. I want to know what's being said. If it were a contest, at least we'd know we'd get the answer *someday*. As it is, we might never be told. If someone guesses, there's no way to know if they are correct. I someday want to know what the oriental man lines are but I'm willing to wait. At this time, so close to the release of Warpaint, it might be ruining someone's fun of trying to figure it out for Happy to just give us an answer on it. But, an advantage to close contact is that, if someone does get the words and is dying to know if they're right or not, we are a phone call away from a yay or nay. The question then would be, should it be printed in Ecto or Ectozine? What if someone else on down the line wanted to try and figure it out? I don't know, but I personally would want to know the lines either a) after someone has already guessed it for the first time or b) after maybe a year or two of no one coming up with the lines. Once Happy does give us the answer, then it could be considered as a "spoiler" and people could be warned that the answer is in the Ecto archives, to skip past articles with a spoiler warning if they want to try to solve the puzzle themselves. Of course, that would mean that a "SPOILER" warning should be put on the post that contains the answer. Should I start putting spoiler warnings on some of my "talked to Happy" posts that contain tidbits about *meanings* of songs? That might be a good compromise. Since I just gave the answer to Wrong Century above, I'll start with this post, and people should tell me what they think. I never thought about it before, but maybe it would be a good thing. I just now went back up to that paragraph and put in spoiler warning. True, it may actually draw people's eyes toward the paragraph, but at least it gives them more of a chance to skip it than nothing at all. Knowing me, I could probably think of more things to say on this subject, but Ima tired, and Ima going to go sleep some. Chinet will be down on Friday and maybe over the weekend too (hope not) so I may not be in contact for a couple/few days. Seeya.. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 4-Oct-91 16:25:03-GMT,995;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28846; Fri, 4 Oct 91 12:24:33 EDT Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1991 00:23 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Re: Spoilers. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <32410480A0C06491@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" I love hearing your little tidbits from Happy, Vickie... please don't stop them. However, I'm all for clearly marking spoilers as SPOILERS. Tired but Happy, Martin ,---------------------------+---------------------------------------n------. | Feel the searing heat of | Martin Dougiamas. ,-\_/ \ | | heightened conciousness. | SDOUGIAMA@cc.curtin.edu.au / | \ | | Feel the yearning for | Curtin University \ |_ / | | pieces of Happy-ness. | Perth, Western Australia. ----> x-' `_' | `===========================+=======================================V======' 4-Oct-91 16:49:56-GMT,1113;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01876; Fri, 4 Oct 91 12:49:39 EDT Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1991 00:49 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Re: Happy photos... To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <35CB40A840C06491@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" I agree with Klaus... Actually, I always thought the Pop photo phenonemon to be a very English thing. Makes me think of Bay City Rollers and Sherbet... I've never had a poster of an artist I liked in my entire life. So what surprises me is, I really want one of Happy. Martin. ,---------------------------+---------------------------------------n------. | Feel the searing heat of | Martin Dougiamas. ,-\_/ \ | | heightened conciousness. | SDOUGIAMA@cc.curtin.edu.au / | \ | | Feel the yearning for | Curtin University \ |_ / | | pieces of Happy-ness. | Perth, Western Australia. ----> x-' `_' | `===================================================================V======' 4-Oct-91 17:04:52-GMT,1488;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04114; Fri, 4 Oct 91 13:04:35 EDT Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1991 01:04 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Clash of interests To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <37DFA8BD20C06491@cc.curtin.edu.au> X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" I was talking Happy recently with my sister (also a big fan) and she was telling me how she was torn between sharing the music with her friends, and keeping it to herself (or in the family, at least :-) I know exactly what she means... it sure is a good feeling to introduce someone to something as beautiful as music like this, but on the other hand, I really like the cosy feeling of snuggling down for a private listen ... just Happy and me. Ah well, I suppose it's a minor thing, really. People are dying in wars overseas and finishing their theses :-), and here I am feeling slightly apprehensive about the rising popularity of a musician. Martin ,---------------------------+---------------------------------------n------. | Feel the searing heat of | Martin Dougiamas. ,-\_/ \ | | heightened conciousness. | SDOUGIAMA@cc.curtin.edu.au / | \ | | Feel the yearning for | Curtin University \ |_ / | | pieces of Happy-ness. | Perth, Western Australia. ----> x-' `_' | `===========================+=======================================V======' 4-Oct-91 18:27:50-GMT,994;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15495; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:27:32 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25411; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:27:20 EDT Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:27:19 EDT From: jessica To: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Wrong Century In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 4 Oct 91 08:35:47 MDT Message-Id: SNOW!?!?!? i'm terribly jealous. I don't agree one bit with your interpretation of wrong century, but i *like* it, does that make any sense? :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 4-Oct-91 18:33:05-GMT,1225;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16127; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:32:47 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25493; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:32:25 EDT Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:32:23 EDT From: jessica To: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Clash of interests In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 5 Oct 1991 01:04 +8:00 Message-Id: Ya know, the scariest thing for me, about happy becomming very popular (ok, i know this is really silly) is that right now, her fan base - us :) - is a bunch of really wonderful people! The more fans she gets though, the more jerks there are going to be.. and we'll have to put up with them. I guess i don't mind overall.. and who knows, maybe only nice people will like her music?? :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 4-Oct-91 18:58:53-GMT,2240;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19639; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:58:32 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14267; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:58:28 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA15859; Fri, 4 Oct 91 14:58:17 -0400 Message-Id: <9110041858.AA15859@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Various stuff Date: Fri, 04 Oct 91 14:58:14 EDT Hi, Let me speak my mind about a couple of things: a) GO JESSICA GO! Best of luck. Just promise that you'll play in Boston/Cambridge! ;-) b) KaTe vs (?) Happy: My personal feeling is that there is no reason to compare Happy with KaTe. OK, both have a great high voice, and both write their own songs. BUT, musically and lyrically there is no common ground. I know of at least 4 people who hated KaTe's music when I played it for them but absolutely loved Happy. Happy's music can touch more people because of its deep emotional effect. KaTe's music is (don't flame me for this you fanatic love-hounds) more elitistic. The complex structures and rhythms, the hidden messages, the sound effects are all as important as the songs they are in. Happy has a much more direct effect. And her voice has SUCH a broad range... I still can't get over 'Til the dawn breaks', people keep asking me, who's KaTe dueting with in this one? c) Terra incognita: My assignment for the weekend is to figure out the words...More on monday. d) Wrong Century: I like the indian man trapped in a modern woman's body theory. Although I always thought 'Not only am I woman' was meant as a sarcastic comment...As with KaTe's songs I always felt that the interpretation of song is very personal, and there is no right or wrong way to understand it. e) Happy Posters: I told Vickie about some fooling around I did with the Ecto-GIFS and a slide-maker...I am waiting for the poster to come out, and then depending on how good (or bad) it is I'll reveal more. The slides I took were in a word: 'Awe-inspiring and psychedelic' (courtesy of mixed up colortables...) Til later, Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ 4-Oct-91 20:58:55-GMT,2609;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05926; Fri, 4 Oct 91 16:58:26 EDT Message-Id: <9110042058.AA05926@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 4-OCT-1991 16:41:30.95 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Interpretation is in the psyche of the beholder To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Hi! Vickie, don't stop posting stuff you get for Happy. That would greatly decrease the selling value of this mailing list- the contact is the coolest part! Spoiler warnings may be greatly appreciated by some, so keep doing that... While we're on the subject of interpretations and "real" meanings and such, sometimes it's impossible to make yourself think a song or a line is what the artist says it is, once you've made your own mind up about it. (That's why the SiG debate rages on in .gaffa once or twice a year.) An example is Suzanne Vega's "Marlene on the Wall", which a friend of mine was convinced is about a woman who has had her fill of relationships with men, and has decided to live a lesbian life. Since this friend is herself bisexual, this interpretation stuck with her, and is the main reason she loves the song so much- but when she read in an interview that the whole thing had been inspired by the day when Suzanne replaced a Police poster in her room with one of Marlene Dietrich, and said to herself Wow, I'm maturing (or some- thing like that), my friend was gravely disappointed. But she still says her original interpretation is the "right" one, at least for her, since that is what the song has been saying to *her* all along. So although we've heard the "truth" about "Wrong Century" from Happy herself, those of us who thought differently shouldn't force themselves to change their minds if they don't want to. Isn't the purpose of art to awaken emotional responses in people? How can it do this, if people feel they are all forced to be affected by one thing in the same way? (BTW, I agree with the "real" deal behind the song, since it makes the most sense to *me*. But I posted this so you all who have different ideas won't be afraid to stick to your guns... one of these days, I'll get around to writing down my interpretation of Kate's "Love and Anger" and send it to her, to help her figure the song out herself! :) ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 4-Oct-91 21:16:52-GMT,3215;000000000001 Received: from rutvm1.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08932; Fri, 4 Oct 91 17:16:09 EDT Message-Id: <9110042116.AA08932@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU by RutVM1.Rutgers.Edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 4557; Fri, 04 Oct 91 17:16:20 EDT Received: from NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU by RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 2064; Fri, 04 Oct 91 17:16:19 EDT Received: from NUACVM (JLUECK) by NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5818; Fri, 04 Oct 91 16:16:13 CDT Date: Fri, 04 Oct 91 15:39:03 CDT From: Jeff Lueck Organization: NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY Subject: Happy becoming popular, etc. To: Ectophiles X-Acknowledge-To: This talk about Happy becoming popular and her no longer having just this small group of *wonderful* people that love her reminds me of how I felt about 1 1/2 years ago about Kate. Until that time I thought I was the only soul in the USA that ever heard of her. Everyone I asked said "Kate WHO?". (Maybe I was hanging out with the wrong people!). In a way it felt kinda neat to have musical tastes "out of the norm" (at least that's what I thought at the time). Then I stumbled upon Love-Hounds. I was amazed at how many people not only have heard about her, but they *love* her as much as I do. The first month I went crazy reading all the archives and FAQ's. I started to realize how little I knew about her and was in awe of all these people who graduated from the School of KaTrivia! After a while I became a bit disappointed that I wasn't really the only person in the USA that heard of her and actually I was probably someone who knew the least about her among those who *have* heard of her. Don't get me wrong - I have learned a lot about Kate and other wonderful artists (look ma - I'm on the Happy Rhodes mailing list...) and I consider Love-Hounds a valuable source of information (KaTe and other). I do miss that naive feeling that I am the only one though. It's kind of the same now with Happy. It's just a small group of people who have found and love some great music. Someday when Happy is well-known (and she WILL BE!) we'll probably all look back and remember what it was like when "we were the only ones that knew of her". * BRIEF INTERRUPTION * It is pouring rain and our basement just flooded here. Since my office is IN the basement, I have an interest in solving the problem. I just came in from the pouring rain with my shoes and socks off and pants rolled up. I was outside yanking leaves out of the sewer drain because the rain water was backing up into our building. You gotta love working here. * END OF INTERRUPTION * After that crisis, I lost my train of thought. I'll sign off for now. P.S. In order not to get me confused with the other Jeff, call me "Chip". Every time someone says "Jeff said" I have to stop and think a minute. See ya all... | JEFF "CHIP" LUECK | OFFICE PHONE: (708) 467-1897 | |HUMAN RESOURCES, NORTHWESTERN UNIV.| EMAIL: JLUECK@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU| |720 UNIV. PL, EVANSTON, IL 60208 | | 4-Oct-91 22:15:55-GMT,733;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18616; Fri, 4 Oct 91 18:15:41 EDT Received: from clutx.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa13946; 4 Oct 91 16:44 EDT Received: by clutx.clarkson.edu (5.54/5.17) id AA27875; Fri, 4 Oct 91 16:44:33 EDT Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 16:44:33 EDT From: kIrI tHe MyStIcAl OnE Message-Id: <9110042044.AA27875@clutx.clarkson.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: TO: Jeff L. I lost your address....:( 5.25 disk would be great - yes i have ibm compatible... yes I can FTP...if you know of a site where they have one i can try to retrieve it! Ta! (sorry for ectoizing this) kIrI hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 5-Oct-91 3:08:52-GMT,1382;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24784; Fri, 4 Oct 91 23:07:23 EDT Received: from E40-008-8.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA05284; Fri, 4 Oct 91 23:07:16 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by e40-008-8.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA05483; Fri, 4 Oct 91 23:07:12 -0400 Message-Id: <9110050307.AA05483@e40-008-8.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Terra Incognita and NEmusic conference Date: Fri, 04 Oct 91 23:07:10 EDT hi, a brief message from home. Attempt #1 at TI story: 'The creature...Think, then this creature turns into this oriental man who's travelled through time accidentally and his effort (??) to help him get back, and I'm telling him he can do it himself' As for the repeated verse I haven't got the vaguest idea. 'Whom did you want to hide, hide, hide, saga mini too' is the best I can do... TO BE FORWARDED TO HAPPY: IN this weeks Phoenix there is an ad about a NE music conference, 10/20 at the Boston Copley Marriott. Reps from Polydor, Elektra, etc will be present to sign talent. Tickets are $69 if purchased before 10/11, and the phone number for info is: (800) 876-4646. This fan's opinion is that Happy and Kevin should definitely go for it. Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ 5-Oct-91 6:12:07-GMT,1405;000000000011 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17574; Sat, 5 Oct 91 02:11:25 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA10430; Sat, 5 Oct 91 02:11:20 EDT Message-Id: <9110050611.AA10430@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Terra Incognito Date: Sat, 05 Oct 91 02:11:19 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu As near as I can tell: This creature I think, then, this creature turns into an oriental man Who has travelled through time, evidently. And, uh, he's asking _me_ to help him get back And I'm telling him he can do it himself. Piffle! I wrote the above, and then got invited to a party for which I had to leave immediately before I could post it! Angelos beat me! However, he missed a bit, so I don't mind *too* much. ;-) BUT...now that I've gotten a handle on most of it, let me ask this: is it just me, or does it seem like this might be a quick recording of an idea for a song--namely "Wrong Century"? It doesn't _quite_ fit, but then, if it was a rough draft idea, it wouldn't need to. I am very curious about the source of this clip and why it ended up in TI. Oh well...guess we'll know when Happy decides we should. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | 5-Oct-91 18:46:01-GMT,3468;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19458; Sat, 5 Oct 91 14:45:25 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA24381; Sat, 5 Oct 91 14:16:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 5 Oct 91 10:28:48 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA12244; Sat, 5 Oct 91 10:28:44 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Fri, 4 Oct 91 17:30 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 17:30 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: New guy, hey! Vickie here, I sent this and it bounced back to me. Hi Joe, good to see you here! I asked Happy about autographing your CD and she said sure, no problem. She said something about sending the CD disc itself and she'd etch her name in it :-) (she was, of course, just kidding. You'll find that Happy has an unusual sense of humor), but yeah, go for it. btw, that goes for anyone else. Joe is the first one to mention getting autographs *after* buying the CD (in e-mail, you didn't miss any messages) and yeah, it's no problem for her at all. Good for WXPN, they are really doing wonderful things for Happy. There will be an interview (it hasn't happened yet woj) soon (within a few weeks) that we're all looking forward to. It will be taped in advance, with someone from XPN in a studio there and Happy & Kevin (H&K) at a studio in Albany (Cathedral, which is where all her albums were recorded) and they'll have a phone hookup, but will also be talking into microphones, so the interview will have a live sound, instead of phoney. The really cool part is that H&K will be doing at least 3 songs live in the studio, which they'll also up on tape, of course. They'll send the tape of music and talking to WXPN and someone there will edit it all together for an interview. We're all waiting anxiously, especially since it's very possible that the interview will be syndicated nationwide. That could have an enormous effect on Happy's career. Baited breath here.... I'm suprised that WXPN is owned by U of P, isn't it am NPR station? I guess I'd never heard of a university owning an NPR station before. Gee, the ultimate college station. NPR goodies & alternative music to boot! Say Harry, did you get the interview? Joe, Happy just did an interview that we all put together. I sent her the questions that everyone asked and she answered them and e-mailed 'em back to me (before you ask, no H&K aren't on the net. They have an account but can't access it. I gave Happy my password and she logged on to our account to be able to send the interview back to me) I will send it to you if you'd like. Harry, send a quick e-mail if you haven't received it from anyone else yet. I didn't send one in case you'd already been deluged with copies. Meredith, there is sure to be another one. Happy had fun answering all the questions and I'm sure she'd do it again. There actually will have to be another one. Isn't it funny how the answers tended to raise even more questions? It seems like a long interview, but after reading it a couple of times, it seems way too short, because of all the unanswered questions. Start making a file of questions. I won't take them yet, but you can be thinking about them. 'sit for now... Vickie chinet.chi.il.us 5-Oct-91 18:46:51-GMT,3950;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19532; Sat, 5 Oct 91 14:45:43 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA24382; Sat, 5 Oct 91 14:16:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 5 Oct 91 10:33:38 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA12357; Sat, 5 Oct 91 10:33:36 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 5 Oct 91 10:24 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Oct 91 10:25 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Brian Bye Bye Vickie here. Storytime... I was on my way to the bank to pay bills and on the way out of the apartment I checked the (snail)mail and grabbed what was there to carry with me. There was a letter from the COOP folks, a Big Hat newsletter and Brian Bloom's 100 min. tape for SIG. I carried them with me to the "El" station in the pouring rain (Jeff, you OK? How's the basement?) and sat down to read and wait for he train. Brian, I read your letter, thanks for it. Then I tucked it back into the package and opened the Big Hat newsletter to read. Right about then a train came and I gathered everything up and stepped on board. I finished reading the Big Hat newsletter (really cute, they have their own "Vickie" and "Jessica" named Sanz Lashley who puts together the newsletter) and then I realized that...oh NO! Where's Brian's package?? Oh NO! I had dropped Brian's package! I can't believe it. I searched, (you know how it is when you *know* in your heart you've lost something but search anyway hoping that it will pop up out of hiding and go "just kidding, had you going there huh?") but no luck. Boo hoo. I *had* to get to the bank and by that time I was much closer to the bank than where I had boarded the train and it was almost closing time. Pooh! I did search for it when I got back, and asked the ticket-taker if anyone had turned it in, but nooooooooo! Pmmmft! So anyway, someone out there in this great big fabulous city has a brand new 100 minute tape, a few stamps and a very nice letter that will probably confuse the hell out of them if they took the time to read it. "Ecto SIG" ? Hope they use a few brain cells to at least puzzle over it before tossing it. Hope they use the tape for some music worth their time. Maybe they'll write their mother using the stamps. Let's see, getting a vision here. OK, the gal that found the package is a down-on-her-luck musican who is a month behind on her rent and who just had her gas turned off. She finds this tape, PERFECT, because she needed to send her demo tape to this indie company but she's flat broke and gee, here's a blank tape and postage to boot! She uses the tape, silently thanking that guy in Texas and the dip who lost it, and on the basis of that tape, gets signed, not by the indie company, because the recession has just been a downright bitch for the indies, but it gets passed along and some bigwig at a major hears it and says, yeah, we can find a spot for her. Give that woman a contract, and while you're at it, make sure she has all the creative control she wants, and don't you forget a big promotional budget and say, what's happening on that video? Did you contact Terry Gilliam like she requested? and she becomes known and very well-respected throughout the world as a really innovative singer/songwriter/musician much along the same lines as Kate Bush and Happy Rhodes and twenty years from now will be trying to remember how it all started and go ....."Ecto SIG?" Vickie ps, no need to send another tape, Brian. Thank Klause. pps, COOP is a group of people who got together to start a nationwide (to the US) campaign to keep Twin Peaks from being cancelled. Didn't work, but they're sincere, and they keep on putting out newsletters. 6-Oct-91 2:35:48-GMT,1369;000000000001 Received: from natinst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04210; Sat, 5 Oct 91 22:35:31 EDT Received: by natinst.com id AA05667 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu); Sat, 5 Oct 1991 21:35:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1991 21:35:34 -0500 From: Brian Bloom Message-Id: <199110060235.AA05667@natinst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, katefans@chinet.chi.il.us Subject: Re: Brian Bye Bye Golly, so you think my lost tape might make someone a star? And I would never even get credit for it... shucks... Anyway, I suppose you at least need my address again: Brian Bloom 7117 Woodhollow #1926 Austin, TX 78731 Just out of curiousity, I wonder if Twin Peaks fans have a pre-dispostion for listening to music like Kate and Happy. Maybe it's a sign of good taste... 8^) __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com 6-Oct-91 16:24:57-GMT,1208;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11390; Sun, 6 Oct 91 12:24:12 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1991 00:14 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Good taste... To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" Brian writes: > Just out of curiousity, I wonder if Twin Peaks fans have a pre-dispostion > for listening to music like Kate and Happy. Maybe it's a sign of good > taste... 8^) I remember discussion in alt.tv.twin-peaks about what sort of computers Twin Peaks fans used. So someone did a survey and found that the most popular computer amongst them was the Macintosh. If what Brian writes above is true, then could you say that most people who like Macintoshes would like Happy? (This is getting just too silly for words.. :-) Which reminds me, the hard disk on my home machine (a Mac, of course) crashed and burned in a spectacular way this weekend. :-( Too much fiddling with it, I expect. (Life... don't talk to me about life.) Because of this I don't expect to be doing much e-mailing for a while. :'( (tearful face) Martin 7-Oct-91 8:30:04-GMT,2212;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13882; Mon, 7 Oct 91 04:29:25 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA02275; Mon, 7 Oct 91 09:25:19 +0100 Message-Id: <9110070828.AA06901@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: Warpaint - The Video Clip Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Mon, 07 Oct 91 09:28:26 N From: Klaus Kluge Some thoughts about 'Warpaint - The Video Clip': I like woj's idea about the red lipstick, although I wouldn't use it on the first line. But reading that and remembering the lines 'I fight to the death' I was wondering if we are doing a soundtrack for 'Dressed to kill'. The lipstick would also be useful to draw the warpaint lines. But we also have the 'lines of color on my face', so there are enough possibilities to use lots of makeup. What I thought of first, was to use faces which are painted red and black for the first part of the song, where the painting of the lines of warpaint reveals a white color. 'It is drowning out floods of noisy tears.' could give some nice effects on our artwork. Getting all this fighting and killing in it, is difficult. As we already have all this color/makeup, we could show body pictures of fights (The Illustrated Man). Thinking about it, we have good chances to get the oscar for best makeup. :) Hoppla, while reading the lyrics more intense this time, I found a passage which I interpreted differently. Instead of: 'every tombstone mark one conquered night.' I was always hearing: 'every tombstone mark one conquered knight.' Seems, I was thinking more about medieval battles. Klaus Kluge - kkluge@Materna.DE _______________________________________________________________ In the desert, in a distance, Is a man who prays. ) Real He is finished with the image. He has changed his face. ( Rainbirds Bows his head down to the ground. He is waiting unconcerned. ) (91) Lifts his head up to the sky. And so he will remain. (______________ 7-Oct-91 17:01:59-GMT,1010;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02259; Mon, 7 Oct 91 13:01:11 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08544; Mon, 7 Oct 91 13:01:00 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Oct 91 13:00:58 EDT From: jessica To: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Terra Incognito In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 05 Oct 91 02:11:19 -0400 Message-Id: Hmm, I tihnk jeff has got it pretty close! I tihnk it's accidentally, not evidently though. And i ithnk there might be a "that" in "i'm telling him (that) he can do it himself" jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 7-Oct-91 22:56:20-GMT,1398;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16979; Mon, 7 Oct 91 18:55:57 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16923; Mon, 7 Oct 91 18:55:53 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA18740; Mon, 7 Oct 91 18:55:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9110072255.AA18740@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Terra Non-Incognita Date: Mon, 07 Oct 91 18:55:44 EDT Hi, Jeff deciphered: This creature I think, then, this creature turns into an oriental man Who has travelled through time, evidently. And, uh, he's asking _me_ to help him get back And I'm telling him he can do it himself. I proposed: 'The creature...Think, then this creature turns into this oriental man who's travelled through time accidentally and his effort (??) to help him get back, and I'm telling him he can do it himself' The ultimate version is probably a hybrid: This creature...I think then this creature turns into this oriental man who's travelled through time accidetally, and uh, he's asking me to help him get back, and I'm telling him he can do it himself. So, WHY ON EARTH is she talking about this story in THIS song? Only Happy will tell... Angelos ((how could I have heard 'effort'??)) +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ 8-Oct-91 15:01:41-GMT,1718;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25581; Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:00:57 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14879; Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:00:54 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA19256; Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:00:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9110081500.AA19256@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: rec.music.cd post Date: Tue, 08 Oct 91 11:00:48 EDT Hi, I just saw this in rec.musci.cd, and decided to post it here. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: rec.music.cd Subject: Re: ******** Happy Rhodes ******** (long!) Message-ID: <19184@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM> Date: 8 Oct 91 02:47:53 GMT References: <1991Sep27.065824.9702@chinet.chi.il.us> Organization: Unisys/Paoli Research Center, Paoli, PA 19301 Lines: 16 The album "Warpaint" by Happy Rhodes is played quite often on WXPN (88.5 FM in Philadelphia, PA). In fact, one of the cuts, "Feed the Fire", was the number 1 requested song for 8 weeks in a row! It is hard to find. 21st Century Sound (the greatest CD store around) carries it, but they sell out almost as fast as they get them in. It seems that they are the only place in Philly that carries it, and WXPN is the only station that plays it. It's a great album. I finally got there when they had it. BTW, I bought the Lisa Germano CD based on a recommendation by the people who started this thread, and I really like it. Thanks. Bill Pringle wrp@prc.unisys.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Out of curiosity: How many Warpaints have been sold? Angelos PS. Is Gaffa suspended again? 8-Oct-91 15:01:41-GMT,1718;000000000011 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25581; Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:00:57 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14879; Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:00:54 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA19256; Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:00:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9110081500.AA19256@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: rec.music.cd post Date: Tue, 08 Oct 91 11:00:48 EDT Hi, I just saw this in rec.musci.cd, and decided to post it here. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: rec.music.cd Subject: Re: ******** Happy Rhodes ******** (long!) Message-ID: <19184@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM> Date: 8 Oct 91 02:47:53 GMT References: <1991Sep27.065824.9702@chinet.chi.il.us> Organization: Unisys/Paoli Research Center, Paoli, PA 19301 Lines: 16 The album "Warpaint" by Happy Rhodes is played quite often on WXPN (88.5 FM in Philadelphia, PA). In fact, one of the cuts, "Feed the Fire", was the number 1 requested song for 8 weeks in a row! It is hard to find. 21st Century Sound (the greatest CD store around) carries it, but they sell out almost as fast as they get them in. It seems that they are the only place in Philly that carries it, and WXPN is the only station that plays it. It's a great album. I finally got there when they had it. BTW, I bought the Lisa Germano CD based on a recommendation by the people who started this thread, and I really like it. Thanks. Bill Pringle wrp@prc.unisys.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Out of curiosity: How many Warpaints have been sold? Angelos PS. Is Gaffa suspended again? 8-Oct-91 18:05:08-GMT,1468;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17698; Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:04:21 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08572; Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:04:12 EDT Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:04:03 EDT From: jessica To: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: rec.music.cd post In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 08 Oct 91 11:00:48 EDT Message-Id: Heya! I managed to listen to WXPN for about 15 minutes on the way up today (it's a nice clear day). They were in the middle of a fund-raising-drive (still!) so I didn't get to hear any music, but *twice* they mentioned Happy!!! If you give them $100 dollars, you can choose any one of the several CD's they've been offering for high donations throughout the period of the drive. One of the ones they've offered is Warpaint, and twice they mentioned it was one of the ones you could choose if you called right then and pledged $100.. It was neat hearing her name on the radio :):) Now i just can't wait to hear the music on the radio! jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 8-Oct-91 18:20:53-GMT,998;000000000001 Received: from gateway.bnr.ca by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20057; Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:20:38 EDT Received: from BNRECADA.BNR.CA by gateway.bnr.ca (5.61/1.34) id AA05964; Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:20:18 -0400 Message-Id: <9110081820.AA05964@gateway.bnr.ca> Received: from BNRECADA.BNR.CA by BNRECADA.BNR.CA (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 4389; Tue, 08 Oct 91 14:20:16 EDT Date: 8 Oct 91 14:22:00 EDT To: Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui Subject: re: rec.music.cd post & Loreena McKennitt Sender: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui You could now get the limited edition (100 copies only) 2-cd set from Loreena McKennitt. The first CD is just the regular new album released recently. The second CD contains some interview material as well as songs from her previous albums. There is also an additonal booklet only available with this collector's edition. 519-273-3876 Quinlan Road Productions. 8-Oct-91 18:35:38-GMT,1846;000000000001 Received: from natinst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21272; Tue, 8 Oct 91 14:35:20 EDT Received: by natinst.com id AA14303 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu); Tue, 8 Oct 1991 13:35:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1991 13:35:19 -0500 From: Brian Bloom Message-Id: <199110081835.AA14303@natinst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Quick! All hands on deck! Prepare to board rec.music.cd!! A big thread's starting to pick up in rec.music.cd about Happy; Now's our chance to strike! Charge! By the way, I finally got my Warpaint in the mail yesterday (less than a week turn-around time.. *AMAZING!*) Autographed and all (Thank you, Happy!) With trembling hands I placed it on my CD player and hit play... and did not know *what* to think of what I was hearing... I had come up with *so* many preconceived notions that I had set myself up. *BUT* by the second time I listened to it, was starting to fall victim to 'Happiness' (Wow, there are more possible plays on her name than KaTe could hope for!) Some of her songs are very beautiful, and I'm already choosing my favorites for some compilations I make for myself. Any lurkers out there who haven't done so yet, make the plunge! Sorry, Jeanne, I think I'm hanging onto this one... 8^) __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com 9-Oct-91 3:26:26-GMT,1136;000000000001 Received: from phloem.uoregon.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29594; Tue, 8 Oct 91 23:25:43 EDT Received: from greylady.uoregon.edu by phloem.uoregon.edu (4.1/UofO NetSvc-05/01/91) id AA11234; Tue, 8 Oct 91 20:25:35 PDT Received: by greylady.uoregon.edu (5.60/SMI-4.0.1.2(JQJ)) id AA03006; Tue, 8 Oct 91 20:23:05 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 20:23:05 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Message-Id: <9110090323.AA03006@greylady.uoregon.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Quick! All hands on deck! Prepare to board rec.music.cd!! Darn it, I just sent this to Brian Bloom, who may be confused by my direct mailing, but oh well. Jessica, would it be possible to set up the mailing list so that replies go to ecto instead of to the individual senders? Golly, it's true, then! I got a slip in my mailbox today saying that I had a package from zip code 12208. I had to grep my mail archives to be sure that it was from Albany. So my Warpaint must be waiting for me to pick up tomorrow. Happy has certainly picked up on her order response. More after I get a chance to listen to it. 9-Oct-91 9:37:26-GMT,1203;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07323; Wed, 9 Oct 91 05:36:43 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA15696; Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:32:48 +0100 Message-Id: <9110090935.AA17112@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: boarded! Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH, Dortmund, Germany Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 10:35:47 N From: Klaus Kluge Re: Quick! All hands on deck! Prepare to board rec.music.cd!! You have been confusing me with that line. I thought r.m.c was going to be taken over by Love-Hounds. But thanks for the info, I'm on board now as well. Is there some Ectophile who doesn't have access to r.m.c and would like to see a compilation of what is going on there? Re: ads from Happy songtitles Hey, when we have some more ideas we can put some of them into Ectozine. A bit of humour can't hurt. :) ***** I've made her a legend in my mind! ***** Klaus Kluge ***** SHE IS A LEGEND IN ALL OUR MINDS ! ***** kkluge@Materna.DE (isn't she?) 9-Oct-91 10:13:49-GMT,882;000000000001 Received: from cc.curtin.edu.au by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10491; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:13:23 EDT Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1991 18:12 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Boarding party. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@athos.rutgers.edu" RE: Offer of rec.music.cd compilation from Klaus. Yes! Our entire news server here on campus has been knocked out for a week due to ONE SINGLE bad item from our rival university, UWA. So I'm completely in the dark as to what's going on in rec.music.cd, although I did follow up Vickie's original posting with a most enthusiastic reply to help the cause... :-) Also, it would be good to have a record of whatever's going there in the ecto mail archives ... for future scholars of Happy to ponder over. Martin 9-Oct-91 10:37:44-GMT,1487;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11700; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:37:01 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA19801; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:33:04 +0100 Message-Id: <9110091036.AA17270@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: archiving other newsgroups Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH, Dortmund, Germany Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 11:36:06 N From: Klaus Kluge Mmh, I think Martin has a point with archiving activities in other newsgroups as well. Just how to do it? Small brainstorm: At first I thought about just posting a compilation into the mailing list. As I am out of the office sometimes I won't be able to follow everything in newsgroups as our NNTP-server deletes entries after 3 days (even earlier when running out of space). I save everything about Happy I see in other groups, but it won't be complete. Going through collections from several people to find the maximum of messages is a lousy job. Is there someone with a good idea about how to do it??? ____ ______________________________ ____ ) Klaus Kluge ( work: +49 231 5599 301 ) I'll be here ( / kkluge@Materna.DE \ fax: +49 231 5599 100 / I'll be ecto \ (_______________________) home: +49 202 556781 (____________________) 9-Oct-91 12:38:51-GMT,1610;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21466; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:38:31 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11959; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:19:01 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:57:13 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA16187; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:57:11 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 9 Oct 91 05:00 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 05:01 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy post in rec.music.cd Vickie here. I don't know if anyone has posted this because we haven't gotten any mail in 2 days. Grrrr. Brian, Jorn called to tell me he's gotten your article about liking Warpaint. I haven't gotten that yet, but it will probably come soon. Chinet is so weird (gak! she's complaining about Chinet again. Run!) because they'll hold things for a couple of days and then send everything I'd been missing at one time. It's so frustrating, and now, when gaffa is down too, I feel so out-of-touch. Enough grumblings. Brian, I'm glad you like Warpaint. I can't wait to read your post. You got it very quickly didn't you? What I started to say at the beginning of the letter was that there's a reply to my FAQ on rec.music.cd, and I didn't know if anyone has posted to Ecto about it. I answered him, but it's a perfect opportunity for others to add in their own rahs for Happy. V 9-Oct-91 12:39:13-GMT,1780;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21519; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:39:01 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11955; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:18:59 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:50:17 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA16041; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:50:16 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 8 Oct 91 05:25 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 05:25 CDT From: vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Sunday...SUNday..Sunday Vickie here. Talked to Kevin briefly tonight (Angelos, I gave him your message about the music conference) and he said that this Sunday, the 13th, Happy will be performing live. Now, don't get too excited, because it's only as a backup singer for a woman named Sara Ayers, who is the wife of "Sarge", the guy who wrote those nice reviews in the Metroland. Kevin says Sara is an excellent musician (he used to work with her) and that she has an album out called _Flourachrome_ on Blotto Records. Sara will be performing at Bogies on Ontario St. in Albany on Sunday. Kevin didn't have a time for it, he was unsure because there are supposed to be a lot of other bands playing there all day. Happy will be one of 3 backup singers and will be singing on 3 songs. Kiri, got your package. Tom Johnson & Dan Segal, got yours too Mitch, ditto Steve Fagg, got your letter Klause, got your letter Thanks so muchly to you all. Waiting for more, the show's coming up soon. I'll re-post the Ecto SIG info once more before I actually make the show. Vickie 9-Oct-91 12:39:36-GMT,1905;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21547; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:39:27 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11957; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:19:01 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:54:19 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA16125; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:54:17 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:21 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:21 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Gaffa? I haven't gotten any rec.music.gaffa or Love-Hounds for days, since last Friday. Has anyone heard anything? I joke that it was Robyn Somervill's post about Kate not touring that caused such a sensation, with hundreds of folks responding at once, that "broke" something somewhere. To all the Kate fans on this list: I talked to Peter David Fitzgerald-Morris today and he said that there has been no such announcement. If Kate really decided to not go ahead with the tour, he and Krys would have been among the first to know. He would have called us within hours of hearing it. In other words, Robyn's announcement was bullshit. I don't know what her problem was, where she heard what she did, or why she decided to post it like that, but I can assure everyone... KATE'S TOUR PLANS ARE STILL ON, THERE HAVE BEEN *NO* CHANGES!!! So, while everyone in gaffa is worrying their little heads off abaout Robyn's announcement, you folks will know the truth, and rest easy. Isn't Ecto wonderful? As for Robyn's opinion that Happy is "repititious and dull" well, I have a red face, because I was the one who sent Happy's music to Robyn. Pooh! Can't win 'em all! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 9-Oct-91 12:43:07-GMT,2670;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21770; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:42:54 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11958; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:19:01 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:57:10 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA16179; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:57:08 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 9 Oct 91 02:04 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 02:04 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Got a Love-Hound/Ectophile here...nice guy! Vickie here. This guy's been wandering the country, listening to Kate, Jane and Happy on his truck stereo. He's staying with Jorn and will be leaving tomorrow or Thursday morning for Washington DC, to be there Saturday. Jeff Burka, I should have your phone number, but I can't find it. E-mail it to me, OK? He'll call you when he gets in town. Here he is... cup.portal.COM) on Vickie's account -- Hi Everyone! Vickie invited me to post this right now since I have access to a computer: On the way here from San Jose, I passed through a city on Highway 80; I can't remember the name right now, or the state :-). On the right side of the road was a billboard advertising a "light rock" radio station. Oops, I can't remember the call letters, either! Anyway, the sign read something like: KXXX FM 104.5 "Aural Gratification!" It definitely made me do a double-take! I just wish I could remember the darn call letters and city so that we can sue 'em! ;-) ;-) Larry (L-H@cup.portal.COM) (coming soon to a rest area near you- look out!!) Vickie here, Larry mentioned that he'll be passing through Austin in a couple\few weeks. He's not sure, he's on a 6 week vacation and is roaming around the country at ramdom, visiting friends here and there. Cool eh? So Brian, Larry will be visiting a Love-Hound named Steve Williams. If you e-mail or post your phone number I will pass it along to Larry. He'll give you a call when he passes through and maybe you guys can get together. He has a (real) license plate that says "KTISGOD" and Kate signed it for him (front and back :-). He has it with him... Later... Vickie (listening now to Crystal Orbs....*sigh*) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us "You _want_ your mail to be delayed for days and then get 35 pieces of mail at one time, right? No problem." Chinet's motto :-) 9-Oct-91 12:43:53-GMT,6006;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21823; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:43:40 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11956; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:19:00 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:54:17 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA16122; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:54:15 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:13 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:13 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto SIG Re-post......LAST CHANCE FOLKS! *** LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE *** Vickie here. Here is the list so far of people who have requested a copy of the Ecto SIG. This is your last chance for your name to be included within the show itself. After it's recorded, I won't be making any changes to it. Latecomers can get dubs, of course, but they won't be hearing their name mentioned on tape. After the list I will re-post my original letter (edited and re-worked), as a reminder of what it's all about and to inform new Ectophiles. If your name is not on this list and you want the SIG, please mail me or post ASAP. More details at the end of this post. * - Sent request to be added to the list ** - I have received tape(s) in the mail *** - I have received money to buy a tape Barger, Jorn barger@ils.nwu.edu................*** Bloom, Brian brianb@natinst.com................** Bossert, Gregory gb10@gte.com......................** Bur, Justin justin@crim.ca....................* Burka, Jeff jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu............* Burks, Doug dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu...** Dembski, Jessica jessica@athos.rutgers.edu.........** Fagg, Steve S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk................*** Hargie, Kirstin hargie@chinet.chi.il.us...........** Johnson, Tom tj@cs.ucla.edu....................** Kluge, Klaus kkluge@Materna.DE.................*** Kyrlidis, Angelos kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu...........** Lubkin, David gargoyle!apollo.com!lubkin.........* Lueck, Jeff jlueck@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu........** Martin in Australia Mendelson, Mike stern@chem.nwu.edu................* Philipsen, Albert awphili@cs.vu.nl..................*** Pravatiner, Mitch U15289@uicvm.bitnet...............** Relph, John M. relph@presto.ig.com...............** Sady, Gene gsady@gaffa.intel.com.............** Segel, Daniel danielse@stdim.xstor.com..........** Somerstein, Rodney rodneys@apple.com.................* Tao, Sammy Sammy.Tao@speech1.cs.cmu.edu......* Tarr, Meredith MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu..........* Woiccak, Rob (woj) woj@remus.rutgers.edu.............** Wong, Barry wong1@rpi.edu.....................** ============================================================================ Ecto SIG Info ============= These songs were chosen as favorites by the people who responded to Angelos' Poll: Oh the Drears..................Rhodes Vol. I Warpaint.......................Warpaint Would that I could.............Ecto Possessed......................Rhodes Vol. I Til the Dawn Breaks............Rearmament To live in your world..........Warpaint If love is a game, I win.......Ecto Feed the Fire..................Warpaint Off from out from under me.....Ecto Noone here.....................Rhodes Vol. II Poetic Justice.................Ecto I am a legend..................Rearmament Don't want to hear it..........Ecto In hiding......................Warpaint Come Here......................Rhodes Vol. II Under and over the brink.......Rhodes Vol. II When I saw this list my first thought was "Drears is #1...great!" My second thought was "I'd love to do a show based on this list" (I have a radio show called "Suspended In Gaffa") My third thought was "I just did 2 Happy specials not very long ago" Which led to the idea currently rattling around in my brain. I'll do a show, not for airplay, but for the people here on Ecto! An all-Happy Rhodes show. I will tape it exactly as if it were for broadcast, but make it more personalized, speaking to you people. You'll be my audience! Besides playing the above songs, in the order presented, I will also throw in a few other interesting things. If you'd like a copy of this tape, I need for you to send a blank 100 min. tape, along with enough stamps for the return postage. There's no charge, of course, but it would help me to not have to pay out a lot of money for blank tapes and postage. If you can't find a 100 minute tape (some places still don't carry them) then just send a few dollars and I'll buy one for you. $4.00 should cover a tape, a puff package for return delivery and return postage in North America. Overseas Ectophiles should discuss this with me via e-mail, if you haven't already. I need to know how many of you want in on this. Let me know as soon as possible, please, if you haven't already. If anyone wants to relate to me a short story (what it means to you, first impressions, etc.) about any of the songs on the Poll list, or dedicate one of the songs to anyone special, or say a personal message to other Ectophiles or to Happy, please do. Send me your message and I'll incorporate it into the show. This is your show! My address is: Vickie Mapes 1627 W. Farwell, #2N Chicago, IL 60626 Ohhh, I hope you like it, because I'm going to have a great time doing the show! =========================================================================== Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 9-Oct-91 12:43:53-GMT,6006;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21823; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:43:40 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11956; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:19:00 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:54:17 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA16122; Wed, 9 Oct 91 06:54:15 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:13 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 21:13 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto SIG Re-post......LAST CHANCE FOLKS! *** LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE * LAST CHANCE *** Vickie here. Here is the list so far of people who have requested a copy of the Ecto SIG. This is your last chance for your name to be included within the show itself. After it's recorded, I won't be making any changes to it. Latecomers can get dubs, of course, but they won't be hearing their name mentioned on tape. After the list I will re-post my original letter (edited and re-worked), as a reminder of what it's all about and to inform new Ectophiles. If your name is not on this list and you want the SIG, please mail me or post ASAP. More details at the end of this post. * - Sent request to be added to the list ** - I have received tape(s) in the mail *** - I have received money to buy a tape Barger, Jorn barger@ils.nwu.edu................*** Bloom, Brian brianb@natinst.com................** Bossert, Gregory gb10@gte.com......................** Bur, Justin justin@crim.ca....................* Burka, Jeff jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu............* Burks, Doug dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu...** Dembski, Jessica jessica@athos.rutgers.edu.........** Fagg, Steve S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk................*** Hargie, Kirstin hargie@chinet.chi.il.us...........** Johnson, Tom tj@cs.ucla.edu....................** Kluge, Klaus kkluge@Materna.DE.................*** Kyrlidis, Angelos kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu...........** Lubkin, David gargoyle!apollo.com!lubkin.........* Lueck, Jeff jlueck@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu........** Martin in Australia Mendelson, Mike stern@chem.nwu.edu................* Philipsen, Albert awphili@cs.vu.nl..................*** Pravatiner, Mitch U15289@uicvm.bitnet...............** Relph, John M. relph@presto.ig.com...............** Sady, Gene gsady@gaffa.intel.com.............** Segel, Daniel danielse@stdim.xstor.com..........** Somerstein, Rodney rodneys@apple.com.................* Tao, Sammy Sammy.Tao@speech1.cs.cmu.edu......* Tarr, Meredith MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu..........* Woiccak, Rob (woj) woj@remus.rutgers.edu.............** Wong, Barry wong1@rpi.edu.....................** ============================================================================ Ecto SIG Info ============= These songs were chosen as favorites by the people who responded to Angelos' Poll: Oh the Drears..................Rhodes Vol. I Warpaint.......................Warpaint Would that I could.............Ecto Possessed......................Rhodes Vol. I Til the Dawn Breaks............Rearmament To live in your world..........Warpaint If love is a game, I win.......Ecto Feed the Fire..................Warpaint Off from out from under me.....Ecto Noone here.....................Rhodes Vol. II Poetic Justice.................Ecto I am a legend..................Rearmament Don't want to hear it..........Ecto In hiding......................Warpaint Come Here......................Rhodes Vol. II Under and over the brink.......Rhodes Vol. II When I saw this list my first thought was "Drears is #1...great!" My second thought was "I'd love to do a show based on this list" (I have a radio show called "Suspended In Gaffa") My third thought was "I just did 2 Happy specials not very long ago" Which led to the idea currently rattling around in my brain. I'll do a show, not for airplay, but for the people here on Ecto! An all-Happy Rhodes show. I will tape it exactly as if it were for broadcast, but make it more personalized, speaking to you people. You'll be my audience! Besides playing the above songs, in the order presented, I will also throw in a few other interesting things. If you'd like a copy of this tape, I need for you to send a blank 100 min. tape, along with enough stamps for the return postage. There's no charge, of course, but it would help me to not have to pay out a lot of money for blank tapes and postage. If you can't find a 100 minute tape (some places still don't carry them) then just send a few dollars and I'll buy one for you. $4.00 should cover a tape, a puff package for return delivery and return postage in North America. Overseas Ectophiles should discuss this with me via e-mail, if you haven't already. I need to know how many of you want in on this. Let me know as soon as possible, please, if you haven't already. If anyone wants to relate to me a short story (what it means to you, first impressions, etc.) about any of the songs on the Poll list, or dedicate one of the songs to anyone special, or say a personal message to other Ectophiles or to Happy, please do. Send me your message and I'll incorporate it into the show. This is your show! My address is: Vickie Mapes 1627 W. Farwell, #2N Chicago, IL 60626 Ohhh, I hope you like it, because I'm going to have a great time doing the show! =========================================================================== Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 9-Oct-91 14:03:54-GMT,1005;000000000001 Received: from convex.convex.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29525; Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:02:59 EDT Received: from magnum.convex.com by convex.convex.com (5.61/1.35) id AA07048; Wed, 9 Oct 91 09:03:48 -0500 Received: by magnum.convex.com (5.64/1.28) id AA22555; Wed, 9 Oct 91 09:03:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 09:03:47 -0500 From: foster@magnum.convex.com (Harry Foster) Message-Id: <9110091403.AA22555@magnum.convex.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Gaffa? While Gaffa has been temporarily suspended Vickie writes: > KATE'S TOUR PLANS ARE STILL ON, THERE HAVE BEEN *NO* CHANGES!!! > YAHHHHH ! ALL RIGHT ! > So, while everyone in gaffa is worrying their little heads off about > Robyn's announcement, you folks will know the truth, and rest easy. > Thanks Vickie, you're a wealth of information. I don't know what we'd do without you !!! > Isn't Ecto wonderful? > You can say that again. -- Harry Foster foster@convex.com 9-Oct-91 14:49:08-GMT,1674;000000000001 Received: from natinst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04080; Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:48:56 EDT Received: by natinst.com id AA06499 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu); Wed, 9 Oct 1991 09:49:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1991 09:49:03 -0500 From: Brian Bloom Message-Id: <199110091449.AA06499@natinst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy and others? Okay since I seem to be on a winning roll with other people's recommendations (Happy, Sarah McLachlan, etc..) Could anyone offer some more to me? I was just told about Lisa Germano and am considering her... My fave's so far (to aid in suggestions): KaTe: TSW, HoL, "Suspended In Gaffa" Sarah: "Vox", "Touch" Cocteau Twins: "Carolyn's fingers" and more Enya: most anything Mouth Music: "Branach Banach"? Dead Can Dance: Aoin This Mortal Coil: "Tarantula" As, I guess, is pretty obvious, I like the dreamy, ethereal sounds, esp. foreign/lilting voices. (Okay, so SiG may seem a black sheep) Vickie, the plethora of obscure talent, should *certainly* be able to suggest at least a few... Anyone, anyone?.... Bueller? __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com 9-Oct-91 15:03:39-GMT,1106;000000000001 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05690; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:02:39 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA18847; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:02:29 EDT Message-Id: <9110091502.AA18847@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Happy and others? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 9 Oct 1991 09:49:03 -0500 ." <199110091449.AA06499@natinst.com> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 11:02:28 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu You may remember the recent discussion here and on .gaffa about a band called Area. The only album of theirs I have is "The Perfect Dream" and it's pretty wild. Very ethereal, neat melodies and vocal arrangements. Unfortunately, I haven't had as much of a chance to listen to the album as I might like--I made the mistake of loaning it to my father, whom I thought might like it. He does. Too much. I hate when this happens! My CDs disappear! Anyway, if you can find any of their stuff (I've only ever seen two of their albums, both at Tower), they're worht a listen. Jeff 9-Oct-91 15:15:35-GMT,2254;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07520; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:14:33 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14735; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:14:27 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA20788; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:14:23 -0400 Message-Id: <9110091514.AA20788@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: Brian Bloom Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Happy and others? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 09 Oct 91 09:49:03 -0500. <199110091449.AA06499@natinst.com> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 11:14:20 EDT Hi, Brian writes: My fave's so far (to aid in suggestions): >Mouth Music: "Branach Banach"? Is this the CD with 'Chi mi na morbheanna'? I LOVE this CD! >Dead Can Dance: Aoin OK, Could someone please describe their music? I can't afford $22 to buy this without knowing beforehand what it;s like... >This Mortal Coil: "Tarantula" Why does Newbury Comics in Cambridge MA, NOT have ANY CDs by these guys? Are they available domestically? >As, I guess, is pretty obvious, I like the dreamy, ethereal sounds, esp. >foreign/lilting voices. OK, Let me suggest Eleftheria Arvanitaki. She's a greek singer, with one of the most ethereal voices I have heard. Her music is flavored with sounds from the Mediterranean but the instruments and the orchestration are mostly synths, guitars, some bouzouki and drums. Her latest CD 'Meno Ektos' (Meaning 'I'll stay outside') is excellent. Unfortunately I don't think it's available here. You could probably find it in Greek Music shops in cities with a big greek community. I guess if people are interested I could tape it for you. I sent Vickie a tape with my SiG stuff, and she liked it. As I am biased, since I understand the lyrics which are written by Lina Nikolakopoulou (she is one of the best lyricists in Greece), Vickie could probably give you a more objective opinion. Oh, BTW. ELeftheria's music is NOT like Annabouboula's, who parody greek music. Her stuff is heartfelt and is also a big hit in Greece. Angelos +=====================================+ Nominated for: |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| (Happy Ad for ear infections... :-)) +=====================================+ 9-Oct-91 15:43:10-GMT,1754;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10717; Wed, 9 Oct 91 11:42:47 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA15614; Wed, 9 Oct 91 16:38:35 +0100 Message-Id: <9110091541.AA18990@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: Usenet Oracle about "Happy Rhodes" Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH, Dortmund, Germany Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 16:41:37 N From: Klaus Kluge Here is the result of an experiment I did today. I send the Usenet Oracle a question about "Happy Rhodes", and I've just received the answer. To pay the oracle I had to answer a question about eating a vegetable every minute. ---------- start of electronic perforation ------------------------------------ The Usenet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > Oh Wise Oracle, > two words are sticking in my mind and I don't know what > they mean. Can you tell me what "Happy Rhodes" is. And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } } They're the secret keywords implanted in the UN*X System V kernel. } Whenever a posting is recieved by a machine running this modified kernel, } it causes the machine to run at a 50% reduced speed. This modified kernel } is responsible for 85% of netlag. The other 15% of netlag is caused by } static electricity. So there. At your service, as always... } ---------- end of electronic perforation -------------------------------------- ***** I've made her a legend in my mind! ***** Klaus Kluge ***** SHE IS A LEGEND IN ALL OUR MINDS ! ***** kkluge@Materna.DE (isn't she?) 9-Oct-91 16:09:09-GMT,1512;000000000001 Received: from presto.ig.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14287; Wed, 9 Oct 91 12:08:16 EDT Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01078; Wed, 9 Oct 91 09:08:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 9:07:58 PDT From: "John M. Relph" Subject: Re: Happy and others? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 9 Oct 1991 09:49:03 -0500 To: Happy Talk Message-Id: >Okay since I seem to be on a winning roll with other people's >recommendations (Happy, Sarah McLachlan, etc..) >Could anyone offer some more to me? >As, I guess, is pretty obvious, I like the dreamy, ethereal sounds, esp. >foreign/lilting voices. (Okay, so SiG may seem a black sheep) You might try Lush, although I haven't heard much by them. One of my recent favorites (ranking among the best things I've bought this year) is My Bloody Valentine's _Tremolo_ EP. And I still can only understand about two words in the whole thing (OK, so I exaggerate slightly). Alice has an album called _Il Sole Nella Pioggia_ which is very nicely produced and features a number of great western pop musicians, if you don't mind vocals in Italian. I found that record in the international section of my local Tower Records recently. A friend swears by Connie Champagne's album (I don't remember the name, but it might be _Strada_), and she Does have a good voice. It's definitely not the swirly dreamy type, more like cabaret folk. Good luck, -- John 9-Oct-91 16:13:08-GMT,988;000000000001 Received: from presto.ig.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14975; Wed, 9 Oct 91 12:12:33 EDT Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01363; Wed, 9 Oct 91 09:12:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 9:12:23 PDT From: "John M. Relph" To: Happy Talk Subject: Lush: Gala Message-Id: Here's a review of Lush from Mark T Gunderson _GALA_, Lush: I've been wanting to pick this up used, and it took me 'til now to find it as such. I'm not disappointed at all. Normally I don't like pop music too well, but to me, this is what I wish all pop music sounded like. I've been describing this to my friends as "Cocteau Twins with balls", and I think that's a fair description. Very breathy female- sung lyrics (hard to understand, but unlike Cocteau Twins, grammatically correct) and ultimately hummable music behind. 9-Oct-91 16:25:13-GMT,1569;000000000001 Received: from natinst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16771; Wed, 9 Oct 91 12:24:29 EDT Received: by natinst.com id AA10552 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu); Wed, 9 Oct 1991 11:24:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1991 11:24:32 -0500 From: Brian Bloom Message-Id: <199110091624.AA10552@natinst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, katefans@chinet.chi.il.us Subject: Re: Got a Love-Hound/Ectophile here...nice guy! Austin is a big Love-Hound town, but I haven't personally looked into it much, being fairly new to the KaTeworld. I'm sure there are lots of other Kloset Kases around here... Now if we can just get KGSR to start playing Happy's music like Philly has been. (They already play Kate and Sarah!) If anyone for any reason needs my number (for other than crank calls 8^)) It's (512) 338-4755, but like I said, I'm still a clueless newbie so far (Only Warpaint, only 3 KaTes, and a few doodads here and there, but of course, a *giant* Sensual World poster!) __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com 9-Oct-91 17:30:51-GMT,1219;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26323; Wed, 9 Oct 91 13:30:31 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA10981; Wed, 9 Oct 91 12:33:00 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:50:25 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21036; Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:50:22 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:54 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:54 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: I knew it... I just logged on again and there were 19 messages waiting for me. This is going to be a habit I can see. Anyway, it's nice to get caught up, but I still think I'm missing some things. Can someone send me a Subject Line listing for just the last few days? The reason I suspect that there are things still in limbo is that I still haven't gotten some posts I mailed over the last couple of days. If those never got to me then maybe other didn't too. Let's all buzz rec.music.cd, shal we? :-) Vickie 9-Oct-91 17:34:28-GMT,1210;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26766; Wed, 9 Oct 91 13:34:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA10979; Wed, 9 Oct 91 12:32:58 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:50:20 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21027; Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:50:18 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:45 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:45 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui , Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: re: rec.music.cd post & Loreena McKennitt Hi, Michael. I talked to Jessica about putting Ecto in a digest format. She's the one who runs the list. If I could,, I would do it myself. She hasn't gotten back to me yet. Sorry that the list is causing you problems at work. I hope we can figure something out, because I really don't see Ecto traffic getting any lighter. She hasn't even broke out of obscurity yet. Just wait....sheesh. Vickie 9-Oct-91 17:34:28-GMT,1210;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26766; Wed, 9 Oct 91 13:34:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA10979; Wed, 9 Oct 91 12:32:58 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:50:20 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21027; Wed, 9 Oct 91 10:50:18 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:45 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 08:45 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui , Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: re: rec.music.cd post & Loreena McKennitt Hi, Michael. I talked to Jessica about putting Ecto in a digest format. She's the one who runs the list. If I could,, I would do it myself. She hasn't gotten back to me yet. Sorry that the list is causing you problems at work. I hope we can figure something out, because I really don't see Ecto traffic getting any lighter. She hasn't even broke out of obscurity yet. Just wait....sheesh. Vickie 9-Oct-91 19:58:56-GMT,873;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16757; Wed, 9 Oct 91 15:57:53 EDT Received: from clutx.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa06625; 9 Oct 91 14:04 EDT Received: by clutx.clarkson.edu (5.54/5.17) id AA11429; Wed, 9 Oct 91 14:04:29 EDT Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 14:04:29 EDT From: kIrI tHe MyStIcAl OnE Message-Id: <9110091804.AA11429@clutx.clarkson.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Others.... Area is great!!!! another group in the same class of etherealness is Beatiful Pea Green Boat....they are great too! My friend Michy played Warpaint on her station, and had someone call in to get the add of AG!! YEAH! :) Hey i have break this weekend...maybe ill take a spin down to Albany to see Happy perform...even if it is as a backup!! kIrI ---suspended in gaffa---