Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #877 ecto, Number 877 Monday, 22 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Dead Can Dance stuff Cowboy Junkies RE: pomegranites 1993 Happy Gift Project -- Take 3 Metheny & Mays/Concrete Blonde Transcribing Interviews Secret D'Cuckoo Courtney's Anne Rice Paper ======================================================================== From: jk101920@ee.tut.fi (Kannisto Juha) Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 13:09:16 EET > > What's all this Juhaha? You confuse me!? But I remain operational. I quess I'll end up getting the new one very soon then :) Not all of them at once I'm afraid, I have a budjet. > Get them all! > > Nighty Night Juha! > > Vickie I rarely go to sleep at this hour, Vickie. It's just 1 pm and I've a lot to do today! But I'm happy! Be well Vickie - and anyone else - I'll still welcome further info on DCD :) All I have is a picture on the cd-leaflet with 1.5 people on it. They look very interesting though, and sound that way as well. I'm hungry for information. Rejoice! Juha -- Juha Kannisto O jk101920@cc.tut.fi O I have a friend in Phobos O Savikukonkatu 21 O jk101920@ee.tut.fi O At times I think I'm almost there O 33530 Tampere O jk101920@cs.tut.fi O * Happy Rhodes * O Finland O +358-31-560941 O ~~~~~~~~~~~~ O ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 13:09:44 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: stuff >>>>> "b" == brni writes: >> And where's the bloody pomegranate? >> b> i bought one of the damned things to commemorate the album, but b> haven't figured out how to eat it yet...any advice? Yeah, don't eat the skin! Traditionally (pomegranates are, of course, native to this country), it's cut in half and you pick out the seed+red covering stuff (any botanists want to give us the appropriate terms?) individually with a pin. If you're impatient you could probably do better with a grapefruit spoon and chuck the yellowy bits away after. They seemed to be christmas-only sort of oddities in our house. Has anyone seen anything done with them except eat them au naturel? To be honest they're a bit of a hassle; it'd be far happier with a litre of cranberry juice :) I. ======================================================================== Subject: Re: stuff Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 09:50:07 -0500 From: Dan Riley imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) writes: >Traditionally (pomegranates are, of course, native to this country), >it's cut in half and you pick out the seed+red covering stuff (any >botanists want to give us the appropriate terms?) individually with >a pin. I usually just scoop 'em out with my fingers. Can get a little messy, but I generally did this sitting out in the front lawn on a sunny day. >Has anyone seen anything done with them except eat them au naturel? My parents have a pomegranate bush in front of their house (California, San Francisco bay area), and I believe my mother did make pomegranate jelly at least once. I have no idea how she did it, or how much work it was. They also have plums (5 kinds), apples (2 kinds), pears, apricots (if it hasn't died by now), raspberries, strawberries (sometimes), and a few other miscellaneous fruits, so my mother usually has easier outlets for her jelly-making urges, but I guess one year the passion took her... -- Dan Riley Internet: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Wilson Lab, Cornell University HEPNET/SPAN: lns598::dsr (44630::dsr) "Maybe, leastways is the best way of all" -Caterwaul ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 15:27:56 GMT Subject: Cowboy Junkies "Pale Sun, Crescent Moon" is the new album from the Cowboy Junkies. I *love* Margo Timmins voice. Your ectometers should be buzzin' when they get in range of this album. tim ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 11:55:30 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Re: stuff > b> i bought one of the damned things to commemorate the album, but > b> haven't figured out how to eat it yet...any advice? > > Yeah, don't eat the skin! Yeah! > Traditionally (pomegranates are, of course, native to this country), > it's cut in half and you pick out the seed+red covering stuff I suggest you use a knife to cut the pomegranate. I tried to split one open with devotion, and I made a mess. :) I never figured out whether you eat the whole pomegranate seed, or you just sort of squish it in your mouth and suck the juice and spit out the seed. I tend to do both. :) Be careful eating pomegranates: REMEMBER PERSEPHONE! Holly ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 17:11:04 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: Re: stuff >>>>> "Holly" == HOLLY writes: Holly> Be careful eating pomegranates: REMEMBER PERSEPHONE! What's a Persephone? Is it like a Videophone or something else that's really expensive so you shouldn't get covered in sticky juice? I. ======================================================================== Date: 22 Nov 1993 09:21:04 U From: "emilyb" Subject: RE: pomegranites Avoid the yellowish/white membrane stuff - it'll give your mouth that acrid fuzzy feeling that walnuts sometimes do. Nasty stuff. If you've got the patience to separate out enough of the fruit from the membrane, you can make various really tasty desserts and glazes and suchlike... (Hmm. I seem to be degenerating into ecto.cooking.recipes. Oops.) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 11:15:37 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: 1993 Happy Gift Project -- Take 3 Greetings Ecto-gentlefolk, Time ticks away, leaving just THREE weeks until the deadline for the 1993 Happy Gift Project. Remember that for the next month the postal services will make molasses look lightning quick. If you intend to contribute, act now! Currently the full list of contributions that I've received is: Doug Burks and I still haven't put them on tape yet. :) Several people have send they will contribute, but I have no tapes in my hand. I have tacked the original announcement onto this note, just in case you have no idea what I am talking about here. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! >>> Original announcement This is the initial announcement for the 1993 Happy Gift Project. December is a traditional time for gift giving, so The Management (Mitch Pravatiner and myself) invite everyone to contribute towards a collective gift from Ectophiles to Happy Rhodes. As per tradition (Ecto is old enough to have traditions!? :) ), you are invited to contribute a selection of music that you would like Happy to hear, along with any personal greetings, song introductions, whatever. The _only_ restriction is that your total contribution not exceed ten minutes in length. (Well, I don't know if we'd accept a John Cage homage called 9'47" :) ). Even then, feel free to add extra musical selections which can fill any leftover or odd spaces on the final tapes. If you do so, please make clear which selections are part of your official contribution and the priority you place on the additional bits. (We know. They are all great, but this still would be much appreciated. :) ) Original music is not only welcomed but encouraged! All of this will be copied onto a master tape, tied together with seasonally appropriate selections by The Management (Suggestions welcomed!) and the dulcet tones of Master of Ceremony Mitch Pravatiner. A copy will be mailed to one Happy Rhodes. The recent Happy Birthday Project also included a small gift, a kite handmade by Jeff Burka, a perfect addition to the tapes, in my opinion. It would be great to add a similar gift to this package. We hereby declare this electronic floor open for suggestions. I am also issuing a call for a volunteer to gift-wrap and mail the final package to Happy. Anyone should be able to better any ham-fisted attempt of mine. I would re-imburse any expenses of the wrapping and mailing. We hope that gives the spirit of this project, so on to the administrative details. Record your spoken greetings/introductions and musical selections on a cassette tape (heavily suggested: C-100 chrome bias, recorded in Dolby B) and mail it to me: Doug Burks 2036 W Plum St C7 Fort Collins CO 80521 USA In return, when the project is finished, I will mail all contributors a copy of the final 1993 Happy Gift Project tapes. Unfortunately, the number and length of the cassettes required to hold the final project will depend on the contributions. As a guideline, preceding projects have ended up on either two C-100 tapes or three C-90 tapes. If the project runs onto two tapes, I will supply the second tape (your choice of type) free to any contributors. If it runs onto a third (or fourth? :) ) tape, the responsibility for the additional tapes is yours, so please choose which tape dubbing project option you want to use. All return packaging and postage will be covered by me for all contributors. Copies of the 1993 Happy Gift Project will be available for non-contributors via the tape dubbing project. Watch this space in late December for an announcement. If you would like to include personal greetings or music introductions but have no way to record them, feel free to e-mail your greetings/introductions to Mitch Pravatiner (u15289@uicvm.cc.uic.edu), and he will record your greetings on a tape and mail it to me for blending with your musical selections. The deadline for all of this will be 10 Dec. Due to the over-burdened postal services in late November and December, please act soon! If you have any questions, comments, raspberries, feel free to post them or e-mail them to me or Mitch. I strongly encourage everyone to contribute. Don't worry about the quality of your selections. Just look at mine over the years and realize how easily you can best them! :) Let's make this the biggest and best project ever! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 13:50:13 -0500 From: pearceja%pomis.dnet@wl.wpafb.af.mil Subject: Metheny & Mays/Concrete Blonde I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 22-Nov-1993 11:14am EST From: Lt Jeffrey A. Pearce PEARCEJA Dept: POSF Tel No: 55451 TO: _MAILER! ( _DDN[ECTO@NS1.RUTGERS.EDU] ) Subject: Metheny & Mays/Concrete Blonde I'd like to add my voice to those recommending Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays albums "Offramp" and "As Falls Wichita..." They're both excellent. "As Falls Wichita..." was one of the first two CDs I ever purchased, along with Gabriel's fourth ("Security" if you must), and now as I approach 1000 CDs, I still consider "As Falls Wichita..." as one of the best I have. I must admit I never expected to hear about these on Ecto, but it's refreshing to see such a diversity of musical interests. Anyone going out to buy the new Guns 'n' Roses tonight? (Just kidding) On an unrelated topic, I saw Concrete Blonde saturday night in Cincinnati. I've seen a couple of mentions previously about them on Ecto, so if there's anyone out there who wants more details of the show, let me know, I'd be glad to give my synopsis and opinion. Otherwise, I'll keep to myself. By the way, I saw "Rhodesongs" in the Spectrum SuperStore for $15.99, is it worth paying $3 more to get it 3 weeks sooner? The only other Happy I have is Equipoise (it's the only other one I've ever seen). Jeff pearceja@wl.wpafb.af.mil ======================================================================== Date: 22 Nov 93 13:45:40 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Transcribing Interviews Secret Vickie Laments: |transcribed the Kirsty bits! Geugh, I hate transcribing tape-recorded |interviews, it's so tedious. Listen, type, rewind, listen type rewind, |listen type rewind listen type rewind, listentyperewindlistentyperewind... |Blah! Even the most interesting interviews don't make the boring job of |transcribing any easier. Well, here is Mike's secret method to make transcribing interviews smoother, easier, and less tedious. Don't try to do it sequentially. 1) Start playing the tape. Type in as much as you can remember, as the tape plays. When you finish one small segment, leave some blank space (this only works if you're using a word-processor/editor) and pick up wherever the tape happens to be at that time. 2) Go through the entire tape this way. Don't *ever* rewind until you've reached the very end. You can hit STOP every now and then, if you like, but don't hit rewind. 3) When you've played through the whole tape, you'll have in front of you a transcript of small pieces of the interview, with lots of holes. Now, you guessed it, it's time to fill in the holes. 4) Rewind the tape to the beginning of the interview, or to some place in the middle of the interview where you'd like to start again. Press play. 5) As you play through it again, add on to the pieces you have already transcribed with more pieces of the interview. You can also proof read the parts you transcribed before to make sure they're correct. Again it is crucial not to hit REWIND until you reach the end of the tape. Hit Stop if you like, but only type in what you remember. You'll fill in the rest on the next path. 6) Iterate the above steps until you have the complete interview done. Depending on your typing skills and speed you will have to listen thru the tape anywhere from 4 or 5 to 10 or 12 times. But at least this method a) saves you from the tedium of hitting rewind and play and stop so much, and b) saves the wear and tear on the tape itself of much starting, rewinding and stopping. Plus, you get to listen to the whole cohesive thing, rather than just the same tidbits over and over till you're done. Overall this is alot less stressful on you and on the tape and on the tape player. Enjoy. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 11:31:08 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: D'Cuckoo Hi, Well, Dave has already talked about the concert :), so let me add my two drachmas about D'Cuckoo and the particular show. For those not in the know D'Cuckoo is a Bay Area all-women band. The easiest way to describe them is Future-WOMAD-in-a-band. They make their own instruments, they write their own songs, they PERFORM their music, they are politically active and aware and they are brilliant. And they do all of that with style, virtuosity and a sense of humour. The show last Saturday was one of the most uplifting performances I have attended. The whole venue was moving to their rythm for the entire show (1:30 h - break- 1 h) which lasted so long we almost missed the last train to the east bay :). OK, so my two drachmas are just plain raving and not much substance. Why? I am still excited from that show. That's why. I promise to write more... Angelos PS Diamanda Galas will be performing 'INSANE ASYLUM: An evening of blues, jazz and gospel' at Slim's Dec. 9 and 10. FYI. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 16:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Courtney's Anne Rice Paper Sorry to waste bandwidth, but this got bounced when I tried to send it to Courtney. All others, ignore: Hey, Courtney, Please send me a copy of the Term Paper....when you figure out how to upload it....Thanks. Chris Sampson chris@neuron.uchc.edu PS- Do you have REAL email address. My mailer couldn't locate you. ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)