Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #874 ecto, Number 874 Sunday, 21 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* see y'all later!! Re: LegoLand, CA Thanks, KaTe! story on green linnet Flamebait! Over here! Re: Ectofest and schtuff! oops first jane release Lloyd Cole D'Cuckoo Hay'za Bdays! Kevin... Today's your birthday friends.... Kirsty MacColl - YEAH! it's Alan's birthday! The death of Manny Verzosa Re: Tom Cruise & Christian Slater ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 20 Nov 93 20:44:18 RSA From: prat <035H13P@witsvma.wits.ac.za> Subject: see y'all later!! Almost ready to travel to ze usa fer mah looooooooooooong holiday so juss thought i'd drop a note to say g'bye until next year! Take care all and have a great new year! see y'all real soon! *** Signoff prat (we're all goin on a summer hollyday ;) ======================================================================== From: Mike Matthews Subject: Re: LegoLand, CA Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 17:47:31 -0500 (EST) Vickie confuses us all: > MM (as opposed to MJM, as opposed to M&Ms) laments: Ah, heck, call me Haagi. Everyone else does. I *refuse* to accept Dieter though. Quiet, Peggy... :-) You too, Jeffy. [Haagi is my work nickname; it came from Bob, my supervisor (at least, up until this Monday), so there's really no strong reason behind it. It just stuck. People from other buildings whom I don't know call me Haagi too. It's really scary.] > Sorry Virginia :-(. I thought that the announcement of a Disneyland East > would help Lego choose Prince William County. I don't think they'd > compete, I think they'd complement each other (Jeffy!) but I imagine > that the weather in that area, and the fact that the Lego park couldn't > be open year-round, had a lot to do with the decision. It really is a > shame though. PWC needs the Lego park more than snooty Carlsbad. *sigh* Those are the main factors (the weather being the biggest I hear). Some folks say that Lego was concerned about the competition aspect, but they denied it a few times. > (Not that there aren't any weirdos in PWC....in Carlsbad the opposition No comment... Of course, now folks are in the "oh my GOD what have I DONE???" phase WRT Disney's theme park and the already bad traffic situation. I live right off of Route 66. At least for now. > Vickie ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Have you noticed that all you need to grow healthy, vigorous grass is a crack in your sidewalk? ======================================================================== Subject: Thanks, KaTe! Date: Sat, 20 Nov 93 19:44:14 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu I just got back from the Chesapeake Regional stunt kite competition (with competitors from Washington, Maryland, Virginia, Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania). This is a regional event associated with the Eastern League Sport Kite Association. I took first place in Open Quad Ballet (individual stunt kite ballet performed on 4 line kites to a piece of music 2><4 minutes long). I flew to KaTe's "The Red Shoes." I don't know if I would have done as well as I did if it hadn't been for the song. It was definitely inspirational and fun to work with. I'll probably be working more on my choreography for the song and my performance thereof over the winter, and will use it again in the spring when the next year's Eastern League circuit gets underway. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== From: ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 93 21:21:54 EST Subject: story on green linnet I know it was mentioned earlier that the original green linnet version of Grace in Gravity is quite rare and considered a valuable collector's item to some... Not that I am a big collector, but I came across not the LP but the 2-song single of Grace In Gravity b/w The Perfect Crime on Green Linnet, and I bought it... The songs are identical, but the inserts have different photos and so on. If there are any super big Story fans who would kill or die for this CD, send me e-mail and we can arrange something. -- | Alan Ezust ezust@{binkley.}cs.mcgill.ca Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |------------- McGill University School of Computer Science ----------------| This line is intentionally left blank. ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Flamebait! Over here! Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 21:39:48 -0500 (EST) You know... ...I've been listening to TRS quite a bit recently, and I just put on TSW... ...and the latter seems to this poor misguided soul to run circles around the former. Go figure. Drewcifer, who really is just making an observation and not looking for flames -- Andrew D. Simchik, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu, Tree of Schnopia YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY "In her breast pocket she wore a fish called Angela, of which I have the duplicate, Eric."--Robyn Hitchcock, "Certainly Clickot" ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 23:52:59 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Re: Ectofest and schtuff! >> >> >> Yep. >> >> I'm a "her." > > ;-) > > Just imagining you sitting in a large computer room at campus ;-) ;-) Tee hee! That sort of thing would not raise any eyebrows amongst my buddies. :) > The Holly on IRC had an email address that started with SCOTTY@ - so I > guess this one was a 'him'. Hmm...I wonder who s/he is. >> Ecto photo album!? Who's got it? Can I see it? Who do I bother about >> viewing the Ecto photo album? Is Tim Cook in it? I'd love to see if >> he's a good lookin' as I tell him he is! > > Yes, Ecto photo album! Klaus! Klaaa-hauuuus! Describe your photo album! Uli! Mind your manners! You forgot to say "please!" :) > BTW: Since I don't know your taste in males I can't say whether Tim Cook > is really good looking in your eyes... I am very fond of telling Tim how well he looks, even if I can't see 'im for the goshdarned distance. As for my taste in males, that is something I am more than happy to discuss privately. Okay...so I'm weak. Let's discuss my taste in males, shall we? I don't think biology has very much to do with love. If I fall in love with someone, I fall in love with who they are and I don't allow myself to be limited by what is below his or her belt. As it is right now and hopefully for a long time, my taste in males is defined by a certain person on this list. (Don't worry, Neil, I won't discuss our passionate love affair in on Ecto!) :) Sloppy kisses, Holly ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 01:42:57 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: oops > I won't discuss our passionate love affair in on Ecto!) ^^^^^ I'm always getting into preposition trouble and/or making typographical errors. Thank y'all for bein' kind to my mistakes! Holly ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 08:39:00 BST Subject: first jane release Courtney, The reissue of Jane Siberry's first album should not be hard to get at all. It is a regular release on East Side Digital. While the label _is_ a small one, any well stocked record store should be able to get it with no problem. And it IS worth getting. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Paul Cohen +---+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +---+ +---+ 5500 Wissahickon Ave +---+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +---+ +---+ Apt 512B +---+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +---+ +---+ Philadelphia, PA 19144 +---+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 08:40:00 BST Subject: Lloyd Cole Ectophiles: Lloyd Cole's new album, "Bad Vibes" is out in England. It may or may not be released here. The corporate peabrains can't make up their mind whether or not it's commercially viable. The album is excellent. Anybody who enjoys Lloyd's music, buy the import. It's worth it. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Paul Cohen +---+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +---+ +---+ 5500 Wissahickon Ave +---+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +---+ +---+ Apt 512B +---+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +---+ +---+ Philadelphia, PA 19144 +---+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 01:51:25 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: D'Cuckoo Angelos and I just got back from the D'Cuckoo concert in San Fran. I just have this to say: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Care to add anything, Angelos? D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 8:36:39 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Hay'za Bdays! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Alan Ezust!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Kevin Bartlett!! (even though he won't see this) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 8:58:42 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Kevin... ...our gratitude runs deep. Without you, without Aural Gratification, not one of us, to this day, would ever have heard a Happy Rhodes song. Words cannot express my own deep affection for you personally, my admiration for you as a musician, co-producer and technical wizard, and my neverending thanks for your role in bringing Happy's music into my life, and into the lives of many others who cherish it as much as I do. All the **HUGS** in the world wouldn't be enough... Thank you, Kevin Bartlett, for supporting Happy, for loving Happy, for helping to make the world a better place, for enriching my life beyond measure, and for being the all-around TRULY WONDERFUL GUY you are! Happy Birthday! Vickie (I know Kevin won't see this, but I wanted to say it in Ecto) ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 01:08:43 Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* **** Kevin Bartlett *** ****** Alan Ezust ***** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Ken Hoyme Sun December 8 1957 Sagittarius Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 9:42:36 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Kirsty MacColl - YEAH! We saw Kirsty last night at the Park West in Chicago. Before I talk about it, here's a review that appeared in rec.music.misc and I'm posting it because there's no way I could write a review that compares to it. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm K. Mulcahy) >Newsgroups: rec.music.reviews,rec.music.misc >Subject: Kirsty MacColl live in Atlanta >Date: 17 Nov 93 19:54:43 GMT Kirsty MacColl, 4th Nov 1993, Variety Playhouse, Atlanta We live in an age when most artists resort to one of two tried, tested, and boring, formulas for concert presentation: either start with 3 or 4 fast numbers, then do 2 slow ones, then back to the fast stuff for most of the set, *or* do 3 or 4 everybody knows, apologetically insert 2 or 3 new ones, then go back to safer territory. Such predictability was not for Kirsty and friends. Best known to many for her occasional interactions with The Pogues, and Billy Bragg, not to mention Tracey Ullmann's recordings of her songs, Kirsty's own albums have been characterized by lavish arrangements and multi-tracked vocals. Kirsty the live performer, however, was as much an unknown quantity as Salman Rushdie the public speaker. Both have been absent from the stage for some time now, though admittedly for different reasons. At the cosey 700 seater Variety Playhouse in Atlanta, Kirsty put on a show of impeccably chosen originals with a charm and conviction which overcame both her and her audience's early reservations. By the time it was all over, she had firmly established herself as an abundantly talented songwriter and singer with a lot of substance to say, and a disarmingly natural way of saying it. There were songs of bored housewives plotting revenge, women making a strike for independence from parents and lovers, and keenly observed portraits of the lonely and displaced. Also witty tales of convoluted relationships, and cries of hope in a seemingly hopeless world. All were conveyed with a gentle passion and wry humour. Some of the songs from the current release, "Titanic Days," such as "Big Boy On A Saturday Night," gained noticable power with the live treatment. The versitile, though hardly virtuoso, band included frequent writing collaborator Pete Glenister on lead guitar. There were great songs one assumed they wouldn't attempt, such as "Fifteen Minutes," which on record relied heavily on elaborate brass arrangments. No problem, they did them acoustically, and surprisingly it worked! Much of the audience sang along on the joyous salsa chorus of "My Affair." For the encore Kirsty reached back almost a decade and a half to some of her earliest songs, such as the girl-group style classics "There's A Guy Works Down The Chip Shop Swears He's Elvis" and "They Don't Know About Us." And in case we didn't get the message, she left us with a heartfelt version of The Ramones' "I Wanna Be Sedated." Yes, she did "New England," and "You Just Havn't Earned It Yet Baby," and several of the songs she's penned with Johnny Marr of late, like "I Can't Stop Killing You" from the current album, which is getting moderate radio exposure here in the USA. The only Pogues link was "Miss Otis," which I never did like anyway, and as the start of the encore it seemed a strange choice. Over 20 songs, good value for $10. They used tapes for "Madison Avenue" and "Angel" backing effects, though with four guitars playing over the tapes, it hardly seemed neccesary once they got going. Kirsty played a Gibson electric for about 5 or 6 songs. The show was brilliantly paced, I couldn't have done a better job myself:-) I was struck by the great variety of musical styles, she rarely repeats herself. I was reminded of Richard Thompson - and also she has a similar shy, self-effacing demeanor. For the most part she let her music do the talking, and very eloquent it was too. Apart from the three encore oldies mentioned, everything was from her 1988 to the present phase. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** WHAT A GREAT REVIEW!!** We saw her last night and even though she was fighting a cold she gave her all and everybody had a wonderful time. There was a dance floor area, which we thought was pretty strange ("Dance? At a Kirsty MacColl concert?") but after her first song she asked people to come forward and dance if they wanted to, just so she could see people. >From her point of view, with lights in her eyes, it probably did look as if there wasn't anybody "out there" though there was plenty of noise. She got a rousing welcome! My friend Charley and I jumped up and went right to the front of the stage and before too long the dance area was filled with people. Some actually were dancing, but many were content to sway and hop and just concentrate on Kirsty. Here's the playlist (from Kirsty's playlist): Titanic Days Freeworld Innocence Mother's Ruin Bad Angel You Know It's You Tread Lightly My Affair 15 Minutes Don't Come the Cowboy With Me, Sonny Jim Soho Square Walking Down Madison Can't Stop Killing You You Just Haven't Earned It Yet Baby Encore Songs: In Limbo New England Sedated They Don't Know Miss Otis Regrets There's A Guy Down At The Chip Shop Thinks He's Elvis We were lucky enough to talk to Kirsty after the concert and she's very, very nice! I got a couple of show IDs, plus she was nice enough to do some song intros, soundbites that I can play before the songs and I will be transcribing them sometime soon for Ecto. Charley had tried to set up an interview with her before the show but she wasn't feeling up to it, understandably, so it was a treat to be able to talk to her and get what I got. (Btw, we didn't tape the show :-( though now I wish we had). She's very easy to talk to and quite outgoing, even though she didn't feel very well. She's *wonderful!* Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 11:48:26 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: it's Alan's birthday! Happy birthday, Alan. I hope you spoil yourself shamelessly today! Holly ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 12:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: The death of Manny Verzosa I don't know if any of you reading this are familiar with a defunct Boston area band called, The Walkers, but the man who was once their lead singer, Manny Verzosa, was killed in a car accident in Wyoming. The Walkers released one E.P. and were due to release a full length CD on Atlantic records. Before recording of the album had begun, the band was dropped by the label. Verzosa (who started the band with a friend in Portland, Maine) left the band to make a new start (in Seattle, I believe). The Walkers began as a duo and picked up some very talented Boston-area musicians along the way, including Michel Rivard, bass player for The Story's band, and Adam Steinberg, guitarist for the Laurie Sargeant band. The first time I saw them they were opening for Laurie Sargeant at Johnny D's. I was blown away, largely due to the amazing versatility and beauty of Verzosa's voice. Their music was a blend of pop, rock, country and folk. I count myself lucky to have seen them the number of times I did, and will miss Manny's voice. Michael ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 12:41:00 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Tom Cruise & Christian Slater Sorry, I have to agree with the Cruise and Slater naysayers regarding INTERVIEW. Tom Cruise would be my absolute last choice for Lestat. And although I also enjoyed Slater's performance in UNTAMED HEART, I find him too derivative for most roles. Unfortunately, the film is bound to succeed big time, largely due to all the press it's receiving as well as the actors involved. This sad face will serve to justify Cruise's decision to bully his way into this part regardless of his performance (or lack thereof). Ah well, Neil Jordan, I put my faith in you. Good luck, you'll need it. Michael ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)