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                            ecto, Number 865

                        Monday, 15 November 1993

                             Today's Topics:
                           *-----------------*
                    120 Min: KT, DCD, Bettie Serveert
                                EuroEcto
                          Australia, and stuff
                                Varttina
                           Kirsty; Weir; Happy
                   1993 Happy Gift Project -- Take two
                    Today's your birthday friend....
                           DCD reccomendations
                               Hugh Laurie
                        Hugh Laurie & Stephen Fry
                               Extra Sarah
                           Anne Rice and Happy
                      Listen Up! and other stories
                       jane review in NYT 11/15/93

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 01:13:09 -0700
From: "Alex Gibbs" <arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu>
Subject: 120 Min: KT, DCD, Bettie Serveert

For those who get the pacific coast feed of MTV you still have a chance of
catching those 3 artists on 120 Minutes.  I've seen videos from them all
on 120 Minutes before so they may not be new.

TRS is no longer on the MTV Alternative top 10.
DCD is at #6.
---
AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |<
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
"Without the pain there'd be no learning.              \ / Constellation of the
 Without the hurting we'd never change."               / \  Heart  <Kate Bush>
"Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do   \   Why Should I
 you think He had a beautiful smile?  A smile that healed."  \  Love You?


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From: Tim Cook <timc@kbss.bt.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 09:20:52 GMT
Subject: EuroEcto

Klaus and Claudia deserve a round of applause for organising a *great*
party. Not only did we have fuzzy blue drinks, we had bright blue ice
cubes!! It was good to meet some ectophiles at last. The ones I didn't meet
I had a chance to see what they looked like in the ecto photo album.

Here's to the next EuroEcto :-)

tim


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 03:41:16 -0700
From: "Alex Gibbs" <arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: 120 Min: KT, DCD, Bettie Serveert

Me about US MTV:
> For those who get the pacific coast feed of MTV you still have a chance of
> catching those 3 artists on 120 Minutes.  I've seen videos from them all
> on 120 Minutes before so they may not be new.

Kate Bush: US "Rubberband Girl", not new.
Dead Can Dance: "Yulunga", not new, it was on 2 weeks ago I think.  Very
  visually stunning.
Bettie Serveert: "Palomine", first time I've seen it on MTV.  I had seen
  "Tomboy" about a year ago.
They also played They Might Be Giants' "Ana Ng".

This probably reached gaffans too late but was out in ecto pretty quick,
even though there was probably no one there to use it.

Next week Bjork will play live and be interviewed.
---
AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |<
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
 foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." <Douglas Adams
"Without the pain there'd be no learning.              \ / Constellation of the
 Without the hurting we'd never change."               / \  Heart  <Kate Bush>
"Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do   \   Why Should I
 you think He had a beautiful smile?  A smile that healed."  \  Love You?


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 03:41:47 -0700
From: "Alex Gibbs" <arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: 120 Min: KT, DCD, Bettie Serveert

Me about US MTV:
> For those who get the pacific coast feed of MTV you still have a chance of
> catching those 3 artists on 120 Minutes.  I've seen videos from them all
> on 120 Minutes before so they may not be new.

Kate Bush: US "Rubberband Girl", not new.
Dead Can Dance: "Yulunga", not new, it was on 2 weeks ago I think.  Very
  visually stunning.
Bettie Serveert: "Palomine", first time I've seen it on MTV.  I had seen
  "Tomboy" about a year ago.
They also played They Might Be Giants' "Ana Ng".

This probably reached gaffans too late but was out in ecto pretty quick,
even though there was probably no one there to use it.

Next week Bjork will play live and be interviewed.
---
AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |<
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
 foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." <Douglas Adams
"Without the pain there'd be no learning.              \ / Constellation of the
 Without the hurting we'd never change."               / \  Heart  <Kate Bush>
"Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do   \   Why Should I
 you think He had a beautiful smile?  A smile that healed."  \  Love You?


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 13:08:42 +0100
From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge)
Subject: Australia, and stuff

 > Yngve enquires;

 Me??? What have I done now ? :) Just to clear it out - I never wrote the
 following :) Hmm, or is there any other Yngve on the list? :) But thanks
 for the info anyway ...
 >
 > >  It'd be nice if there was a place one could obtain small bios on some
 > > of these people. For instance, I've always wondered where Dead Can
 > > Dance are from. For some strange reason I think I remember hearing
 > > once that they're from Australia, but I'm certain I'm totally worng on
 > > that one. Are they English? Irish? I don't know.
 >

 Yngve (The One and only!!!!!!!)


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Date: 15 Nov 1993 08:03:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: In love with a sculpture of Hermes <MBURNS@smith.smith.edu>
Subject: Varttina

This may not be ecto-fodder per se, but I wanted to recommend a Finnish
group called Varttina.  Very joyful, upbeat (I'm recommending something
joyful and upbeat? On ECTO?) songs with gorgeous close harmonies that are
hard to stop dancing to.  They'll be playing at Harvard University on
Saturday, November 20, too.  Their album is called "Seleniko" and it's out
on Green Linnet Records in this country.

Maura


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From: "Greg O'Rear" <OREAR@ise.ufl.edu>
Date:          Mon, 15 Nov 1993 09:09:52 EST5EDT
Subject:       Kirsty; Weir; Happy

Did anyone catch Kirsty MacColl on the Conan O'Brien show last week?  She and
her band looked and sounded a bit ragged, but they did an OK job on "Can't
Stop Killing You" (kind of a dumb-sounding song).  Conan didn't interview her.

I'll have to see "Fearless"; every Peter Weir film I've ever seen has been
magical and thought-provoking.  What was that one about the girls' school in
Australia?  Some disturbing stuff in that one.

ObHappy: now that I've digested RhodeSongs, and received my official catalog
(read: page) from Aural Gratification, I sent for the rest of the collection
(even the T-shirt :-).  I hope Happy has time to autograph them.  I can't
remember the titles of my favorites from RhodeSongs, but "Ode" was definitely
top of the list; her voice is amazing on that one.  "Given In" was on the
list, too.  There's one on there with the haunting backing vocals that
consists of just two notes (chords, really, since she overdubbed), but since
I don't have my CD with me, I don't remember the title (the melody goes C-D-
Eb-F-Eb or something like that).  Is it "I Say"?

I'm kind of ambivalent about her Kate-ness, as I previously noted, but on the
whole, I use my patented "Beatle Rule": if something sounds like something
else I like, I'll like it too, unless I get the feeling that the performer has
absolutely zero talent of their own, and are merely copying.  Happy certainly
has abundant talent, and if she writes and sings like Kate Bush, that's fine.
In fact, so much the better, since Kate isn't writing like the Kate I used to
know.  You know, first there was "Miss Cathy Bush," with TKI and L; then there
was "Kate Bush," with NFE, TD, and HOL; now there is "Ms. Catherine Bush,"
with X4, TSW, and TRS.  Happy's stuff teeters on the Cathy-Kate border.  I
would have no trouble believing that Happy somehow got a hold of some secret
demos Kate did circa 1979-1980.  I don't mean that in an insulting way,
either.  Happy manages to combine the best of the "spooky" Kate with her own
style and come up with something wonderful.  But then you knew that.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Greg O'Rear                                        E-mail: orear@ise.ufl.edu
 Industrial and Systems Engineering Department      Phone:  (904) 392-3389
 University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida        FAX:    (904) 392-3537
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 09:47:18 MST
From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks)
Subject: 1993 Happy Gift Project -- Take two

Greetings Ecto-folk,

Time ticks away, leaving just four weeks until the deadline for the 1993 Happy
Gift Project.  If you intend to contribute, act now!

Currently the full list of contributions that I've received is:

   Doug Burks

and he hasn't even put them on tape yet.  :)

I have tacked the original announcement onto this note, but would like to
emphasize one paragraph, selecting a gift besides the tapes for Happy.  So
far, I've seen one suggestion -- a quantity of Ecto Cooler.  Admittedly it may
be difficult, but can anyone top that?  :)

Doug Burks                                     _O_
dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu                 |<       She really is!!

   Except for the boy in the belfry
   He's crazy, he's throwing himself
   Down from the top of the tower
   Like a hunchback in heaven
   He's ringing the bells in the church
   For the last half an hour
   He sounds like he's missing something
   Or someone that he knows he can't
   Have now and if he isn't
   I certainly am

>>> Original announcement

This is the initial announcement for the 1993 Happy Gift Project.  December is
a traditional time for gift giving, so The Management (Mitch Pravatiner and
myself) invite everyone to contribute towards a collective gift from
Ectophiles to Happy Rhodes.

As per tradition (Ecto is old enough to have traditions!? :) ), you are
invited to contribute a selection of music that you would like Happy to hear,
along with any personal greetings, song introductions, whatever.  The _only_
restriction is that your total contribution not exceed ten minutes in length.
(Well, I don't know if we'd accept a John Cage homage called 9'47" :) ).  Even
then, feel free to add extra musical selections which can fill any leftover or
odd spaces on the final tapes.  If you do so, please make clear which
selections are part of your official contribution and the priority you place
on the additional bits.  (We know.  They are all great, but this still would
be much appreciated.  :) )  Original music is not only welcomed but
encouraged!  All of this will be copied onto a master tape, tied together with
seasonally appropriate selections by The Management (Suggestions welcomed!)
and the dulcet tones of Master of Ceremony Mitch Pravatiner.  A copy will be
mailed to one Happy Rhodes.

The recent Happy Birthday Project also included a small gift, a kite handmade
by Jeff Burka, a perfect addition to the tapes, in my opinion.  It would be
great to add a similar gift to this package.  We hereby declare this
electronic floor open for suggestions.

I am also issuing a call for a volunteer to gift-wrap and mail the final
package to Happy.  Anyone should be able to better any ham-fisted attempt of
mine.  I would re-imburse any expenses of the wrapping and mailing.

We hope that gives the spirit of this project, so on to the administrative
details.

Record your spoken greetings/introductions and musical selections on a
cassette tape (heavily suggested:  C-100 chrome bias, recorded in Dolby B) and
mail it to me:

   Doug Burks  2036 W Plum St C7  Fort Collins CO  80521  USA

In return, when the project is finished, I will mail all contributors a copy
of the final 1993 Happy Gift Project tapes.  Unfortunately, the number and
length of the cassettes required to hold the final project will depend on the
contributions.  As a guideline, preceding projects have ended up on either two
C-100 tapes or three C-90 tapes.  If the project runs onto two tapes, I will
supply the second tape (your choice of type) free to any contributors.  If it
runs onto a third (or fourth? :) ) tape, the responsibility for the additional
tapes is yours, so please choose which tape dubbing project option you want to
use.  All return packaging and postage will be covered by me for all
contributors.

Copies of the 1993 Happy Gift Project will be available for non-contributors
via the tape dubbing project.  Watch this space in late December for an
announcement.

If you would like to include personal greetings or music introductions but
have no way to record them, feel free to e-mail your greetings/introductions
to Mitch Pravatiner (u15289@uicvm.cc.uic.edu), and he will record your
greetings on a tape and mail it to me for blending with your musical
selections.

The deadline for all of this will be 10 Dec.  Due to the over-burdened postal
services in late November and December, please act soon!

If you have any questions, comments, raspberries, feel free to post them or
e-mail them to me or Mitch.

I strongly encourage everyone to contribute.  Don't worry about the quality of
your selections.  Just look at mine over the years and realize how easily you
can best them!  :)  Let's make this the biggest and best project ever!

Doug Burks                                     _O_
dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu                 |<       She really is!!


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From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de
Date:          Mon, 15 Nov 1993 09:36:45
Subject:       Today's your birthday friend....

                             i*i*i*i*i*i
                           ***************
  :) bday Liz!!!           ***HAPPY*******
                         ********BIRTHDAY***
                         ** Elizabeth ******
                       ******* W. Warwick ****
                       ***********************
                   -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Elizabeth W. Warwick Sun   November 15  1964     Scorpio
Naama Avramzon       Mon   November 18  1974     Scorpio
Jeff Smith           Mon   November 19  1962     Crash
Kevin Bartlett       Fri   November 21  1952     Scorpio
Alan Ezust           Fri   November 21  1969     Earth Moving
Claudia Spix         Wed   November 23  1960     Schuetze
Tommy Persson        Wed   November 25  1964     Sagittarius
Pat Tessitore              November 26       Sagittarius
Justin Bur           Fri   November 27  1964     Sagittarius
Sue Trowbridge       Sun   November 27  1966     Skytten
Chip Lueck           Thu   December 5   1968     Sagittarius
Ken Hoyme            Sun   December 8   1957     Sagittarius
Shelby               Sun   December 13  1970     Roscoe the Frog

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
_____
Klaus Kluge  *  klaus@inphobos.wupper.de  *  I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto!


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 12:21:34 -0500 (EST)
From: michael welker <mwelker@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: DCD reccomendations

wading through the digests, I happened upon DCD reccomendations...

Here's my $.02:

1) "Within the Realm of a Dying Sun"
     {NOT Under ;>}
        most cohesive and darkly beautiful of all their albums...

2) "Spleen And Ideal"
        their 2nd album, that refined the fascinating jumble and jangle of
the first album, and defined their sound

3) "The Serpent's Egg"
        more of the same greatness from "Spleen"

4) "Aion"
        a bit more diverse sound, with the not to be missed "Black Sun In
A White World"

5) "A Passage In Time"
        for the last tracks... "Spirit" particularly makes it worth the
price of the album.

6) "Into The Labrynith"
        exactly that.... a hodge-podege, replete with experimental synth
stuff & not as cohesive and focused as their previous stuff

7) "Dead Can Dance"
       (their first album)
         A bit more rock and rolly sound from the early early
days...fascinating jangle of Goth rock, with the seed of later greatness
evident.


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 12:41:07 -0500
From: wln15..boek@sthp.wi.leidenuniv.nl
Subject: Hugh Laurie

>
> > Does anyone know if the military-person in the Experiment IV
> > video who is kind of the background military-person (dies on the
> > phone in the hall) is the actor who plays Bertie Wooster on
> > Masterpiece Theater?
>
> Well, the answer is yes.  If I'm not mistaken his name is Hugh Laurie.  If
> you watch much British TV, I think you'll probably see him in other things
> too.  One that he's in for sure is a series called the Black Adder.  If you
> enjoy him playing the idiot, he plays it to perfection in this show.  I
> highly recommend it if you enjoy English humor.  All of the Black Adder's
> (I-IV) are available on video tape.  If you're really interested in Hugh
> Laurie, he's really featured in Black Adder III & IV.  Enjoy.
>
And he and Stephen Fry did a series or two of 'A Bit of Fry and Laurie'
which has some wonderful moments. The pair are quite unique I think, and
certainly on my list of top Britich comedians.

Chris.


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Date: 15 Nov 1993 14:15:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: In love with a sculpture of Hermes <MBURNS@smith.smith.edu>
Subject: Hugh Laurie & Stephen Fry

Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie have actually been collaborating since they
were both in the Footlights comedy troupe as undergraduates at Cambridge
(along with Emma Thompson for those of you who are into weird trivia).  You
can see them in "Black Adder," "A Bit of Fry and Laurie," the really awful
movie "Peter's Friends," and the recent Masterpiece Theatre series "Jeeves and
Wooster," and probably a few other places I can't think of off the top of my
head.  Hugh Laurie has raised the Upper-Class Twit to an art form.

Maura


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From: dcwalter@tomservo (Christian Walters)
Subject: Extra Sarah
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 14:26:42 CST

Hey, all.

I knew I was asking for trouble.

Okay, see, when I found that the new Sarah McLachlan album wasn't
going to be released in America until next year sometime (and it
figures -- you Canadians ship us Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, and
Jason Priestly without a second thought, but hold up the new Sarah
album :) ), I called The CD Bar, whose number was posted here.

Well, when it finally *did* get released in The Great White North,
I called them back, and they said they didn't have it in yet.  So I
got the e-mail address from Nettwerk from kindly people like Ilka (hi
Ilka!), got in touch with them, and BANG my copy of "Fumbling Towards
Ecstacy" was here within a week.  Boy, it's good, too.

So I call The CD Bar back to cancel my order (actually, I was just
going to change it to getting Happy's "Rearmament" or something), and
the guy there says:

1)  It'll be at least another 2 weeks before my order comes in.
2)  I *cannot* alter the order or cancel it, because they would be
	stuck with the disc.
3)  I can just deal with it, hahahahahahahahahaha!

(They didn't actually say that last part, but you could hear it in his
voice.)

So now I'm stuck with two copies of this album.  Not that it's not at
least twice as good as many albums I have just one copy of -- Gary
Puckett's Greatest Hits comes to mind -- but I'm willing to risk just
having one copy until it's released here.

So, the point of all this is:

I have a copy of Sarah's new disc for sale.  I'll charge you whatever
I got charged for it -- the price in Canadian $$$ converted to US $$
plus whatever they add on for shipping.  When I ordered it, the guy
told me that it would be about $15 US total.  I will happily ship it
to you the day after it arrives, and won't even charge extra for
postage, unless you want it to go overseas.  (Unless overseas rates
are cheaper than I remember.)

Anyway, if you're interested, let me know.  I won't hold you to
anything until I find out exactly how much it is (the dude couldn't
tell me... but I'll try again in a few days, and maybe someone else
will be at work :) ).

And if you live no further away than, say, Tuscaloosa, I might be able
to deliver it by hand :)

--
Christian Walters      * "If we all act responsibly, the world will become
dcwalter@ingr.com      *  fresh and pure and can continue killing us with
Intergraph Corporation *  earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and
Huntsville, AL         *  volcanic eruptions." - James Lileks


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 15:12:06 -0500 (EST)
From: King o' Pain <labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Subject: Anne Rice and Happy

I went to an Anne Rice autographing yesterday, and I figured as long as I
was meeting her, I might as well do some Happy promotion while I had the
opportunity.  So, I took a copy of _Equipoise_ along with me.  I felt that
was the best CD for Anne Rice since it has "He Will Come"/"The Flight" on
it.  I also included a note with the CD which briefly explained Ecto,
Happy's career, the themes in _Equipoise_, and how wonderful Happy's music
would be in an Anne Rice project.  I made sure I emphasized the internet
fan base since Anne is fairly obsessed with computers.

After Anne had signed my pile of books, I handed her the CD.  I told her
that I thought she would enjoy it and that there was a note inside
explaining why I thought so.  She seemed very excited and looked at the
CD with a great amount of interest.  Hopefully, that means she will
actually listen to it and maybe even love it as much as we know she
should.  So, let's keep our fingers crossed...

Stuart

______________________________________________________________________________
Stuart Myerburg                    "I need more things. I need more money.
Emory Univ. Law School              Don't want to work. Want things for free."
labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu                                   -Jane Siberry
                              _o_
                               |<
______________________________________________________________________________


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Date: 15 Nov 93 15:53:30 EST
From: Mike Mendelson <MJM@zylab.mhs.compuserve.com>
Subject: Listen Up! and other stories

Just a quick plug here for my a cappella group,
"Listen Up!"  We are based in Chicago and are beginning
to get some public exposure and to make some public
appearences.  Coming up, we will be performing at
the Slice of Life restaurant, 4120 W.Dempster in Skokie, IL,
on Monday, November 22, at 9pm.  Anyone in the area is
invited to attend.  Contact me by email if you want more
details.  Pretty soon, the 4 of us are hoping to quit
our jobs and go on tour!  (:-)

Steve quotes Alexes quoting me, etc.etc.
|> Ironically, I keep meaning to post what I think of Lisa Germano's CD,
|> although it will be an interpretation of sorts.  Hard to know where to
|> draw the line.  (or cross, or curve... okay, bad one) I mean we *are*
|> here to talk about music.  The thing is, in this case, I'm hoping
|> someone will invalidate my opinion.  Well, I musn't say more now.
|
|Hell, man (or woman - got to be careful with these androgynous names),
|just post!  You're dead right that we *ARE* here to talk about
|(chiefly) music.  And I'm sure your opinion/interpretation will be of
|interest.

I would certainly agree with Steve here.  I do not mean to criticize
in anyway people who like to post songly breakdowns of albums
in general.  As far as gaffa goes, I understand that it is much
easier to give your opinion of each song individually rather than
to say something deep about the music on the album as a whole
(which would arguably be more interesting).

Myself, when I hear an album that I really like that I think
other people on ecto might not have heard but *should*, then
I will post some glowing, enthusiastic review.
And I will look forward to hearing whether other people
find it as enticing as I did.
Likewise, if enough ectopeople whose tastes I value say that
artists such and so is great, then I'll put it on my list of
stuff to look for at the CD shop.  And I'll listen to and
try to evaluate it myself to see whether I agree with the pack.
Unless I feel particularly pro or con (or if my reaction is
different from anyone's I've already read) then I'll post about
it.  Otherwise, I might just say "got the Tribe album and
like alot just like everyone else."

It's a different story when we're all rating music that we've
all (by and large) already heard.  This is also ok to do, of course,
but it gets alot more tired more quickly, esp. when people
are chiming in with the majority or the minority as Steve
described aptly.  If you can do what Charley did with Jane's
album, which is to put things in a light I would *never* have
figured out, then this is laudable.  But I see alot less
utility in posting the 30th song-by-song review and saying the
same things as 29 other people have said just to "assert your
proficiency" or whatever.  Especially when you might change your
mind the next day (and esp. when you *end your post*
specifically saying that "I'll probably change my mind tomorrow"
-- isn't this just a *little* silly??!  :-).

-mjmassertingthathewillsaynomoreaboutthisasitsgettingalittleoldprettyfast


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Subject: jane review in NYT 11/15/93
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 16:04:42 -0500
From: Dan Riley <dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu>

There's a short writeup of jane's Thursday concert at the bottom line in
today's New York Times, pg c18, written by Stephen Holden.  I don't have
time to type in the whole thing right now.  Overall, it is pretty
positive, but the conclusion goes:

"Ms. Siberry's performance left open the question of what place she has
in a pop world that has little tolerance for experimental work unless it
can somehow be shoehorned into a commercial niche.  She remains a major
pop talent whose beautiful songs are probably too oblique and vaporous to
appeal to a mass audience."

-dan

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The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is
an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things
you'd like to have added.
		    -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)