Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #863 ecto, Number 863 Sunday, 14 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* RE: How to listen... Alice in Ectoland Help me, I've been smopped, and I don't know what it means Re: EctoPoll Re: Five Faves misattributions and love-hounds HALLOOO HALLAY!! Happy's Top 5 Random replies, Happy's career Bjork really is. But what? ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 04:59:51 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: RE: How to listen... WretchAwry : > Emily (Hi!) has the answer: > > > Well, if the plural of "index" is "indices," would the plural of "Alex" be > > "Alices"? > > They're alive...they're alive...and why? Because we let them be... > Open their eyes, Alices arise. Roam the streets, invade their dreams... > > I *love* that song! Happy will be pleased to know that there are > Alices on Ecto! I *really* *really* need more Happy! Alex, one of the "Alices"? (P.S. - I am male to those who wondered) --- AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< "Without the pain there'd be no learning. \ / Constellation of the Without the hurting we'd never change." /`\ Heart "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do `\ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." `\ Love You? ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 7:14:55 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Alice in Ectoland Hi Alex! Hi Alex! The song was a paraphrase of "He's Alive" from Rhodes I. The star of the song is a he-monster named Alice (so see, you are the right gender) who is brought to life by the little girl who painted him. There *is* a gif at hardees.rutgers.edu (anon ftp, in pub/hr/gifs) but he's *really* scary-looking. He might go "boo!" Vickie (who is, really, going to bed now) ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 06:31:34 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Help me, I've been smopped, and I don't know what it means Holly just smopped me in irc ecto. I wondered what it was and wether it was something I'd enjoy and she said to ask here! Anyone remeber? :) --- AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< "Without the pain there'd be no learning. \ / Constellation of the Without the hurting we'd never change." /`\ Heart "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do `\ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." `\ Love You? ======================================================================== From: Mike Matthews Subject: Re: EctoPoll Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 08:43:10 -0500 (EST) This top 5 Happy song poll doesn't have to be so hard. Just think of all of Happy's songs and CDs as one long song with occasional breaks in them (some can be a little long if you don't have one of those multi-disc CDs like myself). What? This is cheating? Oh, never mind. ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ ======================================================================== From: Mike Matthews Subject: Re: Five Faves Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 08:54:10 -0500 (EST) [Note: I am not dismissing song by song evals.] Drewcifer drewcifers: > Oh, to those who are dismissing song-by-song evaluations of TRS: why not? > "I love it" is a bit uninformative, don't you think? IMNSHO, there's no No, I don't. When it comes down to it, either you like the song or you don't. Your reasoning may not mean much to someone else (same applies to me, but I can never really figure out why I like a song or why I don't, so that's somewhat irrelevant in my case as I can't explain it to anyone anyway), but they might trust your general opinion anyway. I'd like to think folks here on Ecto are willing to take chances once in a while. Giving impressions of each song is not bad, or wrong, or anything but opening up points for discussion. This only becomes "bad" when someone tries to force their opinion onto someone else; I don't see this happening. Each post by default is an opinion. Saying "this song sucks because..." isn't wrong. Saying "you're stupid if you think this song ..." is. I think it's kind of funny, anyway. I mean, if you like Kate, can you honestly tell me you WON'T get TRS? :-) "Sounds good to me." > Mystery Science Drewcifer 3000 ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Any small object that is accidentally dropped will hide under a larger object. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 07:24:37 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: Alice in Ectoland Vickiness: > The song was a paraphrase of "He's Alive" from Rhodes I. The star of > the song is a he-monster named Alice (so see, you are the right gender) > who is brought to life by the little girl who painted him. I guess that would be Happy in a way then. > There *is* a gif at hardees.rutgers.edu (anon ftp, in pub/hr/gifs) > but he's *really* scary-looking. He might go "boo!" You weren't kidding! Thankfully I don't look like that! :) > Vickie (who is, really, going to bed now) Alex (who is, really, logging off now, but not going to bed for a bit) --- AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< "Without the pain there'd be no learning. \ / Constellation of the Without the hurting we'd never change." /`\ Heart "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do `\ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." `\ Love You? ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 12:35:06 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (the horizon you run to) Subject: misattributions and love-hounds Neal R. Copperman sez: >Woj? That's morally ape over miser? hey buddy, don't be calling me a miser! and don't be calling meredith a miser either! ;) S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk sez: >What was that Woj said about "self serving" about some >of the "The Red Shoes" postings on gaffa? actually, i've had nothing to say about the debate over who is and isn't self-serving on love-hounds. personally, i like the song-by-song opinions, the early impressions (which, imho, are *crucial* to a record's duration on the turntable/in the cd player/in the cassette deck) and the off-the-cuff reviews. unformed opinions are often the most revealing and most accurate. it's the detailed debates over song meanings and song ordering that bore me to tears. >But in a forum dedicated to Kate and her work it seems to me to be a >pretty shoddy use to make of an album to which Kate has dedicated a >lot of time and creative effort. how come nobody got bent out of shape when people were posting song-by- song impressions of happy's albums here? "Wild? Perhaps. Turkey? Definitely." sez: >_Massive Blur_ by new singer-songwriter Melissa Ferrick i saw this in an over-priced cutout bin with a broken jewel box yesterday and didn't feel like paying the $ for it at the time. anyone have any opinions on this? +woj ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 7:09:36 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: HALLOOO HALLAY!! TO ALL THE NICE PEOPLE AT THE EURO-PARTY, HERE'S A BIG HUG! 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I love you all, have a great time! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 15:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: King o' Pain Subject: Happy's Top 5 >OK.. what's your *five* favorite Happy songs? Mail me your lists, >and I'll compile 'em like I did for the DIDs. 1. "Oh The Drears" 2. "Come Here" 3. "Feed the Fire" 4. "Phobos" 5. "Step Inside" That was more difficult than I expected. I'm already thinking of songs that could have been 4 and 5. But 1-3 are definite because they're simply perfection. Stuart ______________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg "I need more things. I need more money. Emory Univ. Law School Don't want to work. Want things for free." labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu -Jane Siberry _o_ |< ______________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 17:41:25 -0500 From: Jeremy Corry Subject: Random replies, Happy's career Meredith wrote: > 1.) To those who have been (albeit probably unintentionally) slamming Susanne > White for lack of follow-up on certain issues and insinuating sloth on her > part, please remember that she is only one person. In one day, there are only > so many phone calls to radio stations one can make, promo materials one can > send out, and letters one can write. Besides, she has a life, too. (I'm > not sure, but is Happy the only person she's working for?) > > Back in the Spring, Susanne asked me to post a notice to ecto stating that > if any area 'Philes were interested in doing an unpaid internship over the > summer helping her out in Brooklyn, they should contact her, which I did. To > my knowledge, not one person responded. (It was at this point that I started > religiously playing the Connecticut Lotto twice a week, but no luck yet. :( ) > The fact of the matter is, pushing Happy to the masses is far too huge a job > for one person, and Susanne is doing the best she can with the meager resources > she has. She would welcome an assistant with open arms, but unfortunately, > at this point that person would have to be heavily into volunteer work. > My point was simply that we were completely willing to do the promotional for her. I am not saying that Susanne is slothful, <> Since Happy and Kevin don't have the resources to hire lots of people (is Susanne for Happy full-time?), they should concentrate on the work that will get them the most airplay/exposure, and they should let volunteers do some of it for them. <> Isn't that what we ecto-philes are doing all the time? --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy J. Corry | jcorry@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (NeXT) | Immaculate Conception: jcorry@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (unix) | Mary was a drag queen | __ My opinions are my own, but I probably got them from someone else. \/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== From: louis@netcom.com (Roy Sette) Subject: Bjork really is. But what? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 19:14:55 PST >hear it sounds like it's worth getting. She gives off the >*impression* of being very young, almost child-like, not that that is >bad necessarily :). How old is she? I never got into the Sugarcubes >so I don't know much about her. Bjork will be 28 on November 21. If you think she seems young now, you should have seen her five years ago (on the Sugarcubes concert tape.) But that's nothing. She started singing professionally at the age of 12. BTW, there is a Bjork/Sugarcubes mailing list and it's starting to get annoyingly ecto-ish :-) -- Roy louis@netcom.com ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: Help me, I've been smopped, and I don't know what it means Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 20:36:53 PST > Holly just smopped me in irc ecto. She did? Really? There are nights when I lie awake, dreaming of being smopped by Holly! :) > I wondered what it was and wether it was something I'd enjoy and she > said to ask here! Anyone remeber? :) smop (smop) v., n. (colloq.) 1. v.t. & i. Gentle, playful slap or poke meant as a gesture of good humour or friendship. (esp. when smopper is Holly Tominack.) 2. n. A frolicsome, sportive or lightly reproachful nudge or gentle blow, intended to convey affection, good will, etc. [20th c.; orig. uncert. Poss. imit.] smopper (smopper) n. (colloq.) 1. One who smops; esp. individual named Holly Tominack. (see SMOP 1) (I think I might get smopped for posting this...) - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)