Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #369 ecto, Number 369 Sunday, 22 November 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* "A hard ware's gonna fall?"--not Bob Dylan [and other stories] Today's your birthday friend.... Song about dead lover? I'm back Psychowelders turnaround Fluff (tm) shawn colvin/vance gilbert rvw Friday night World Cafe -Wednesday Today's your birthday friends.... Psychofolks Today's your birthday friend.... our HGP selection & "Die Nixe" I lost some messages & stuffy ======================================================================== Date: 19 November 1992 14:59:40 CST From: Subject: "A hard ware's gonna fall?"--not Bob Dylan [and other stories] Mike writes: >Your posts would be a *whole* lot easier and >more enjoyable to read if you got into the habit >(as I have) of ending each line (i.e. pressing > or ) by about the 50th or 60th >character. Every single one of your posts has the >majority of its lines wrapping hideously making it >a true burden on those of us unfortunate enough to >have 80 column stiggling viewers. This has whetted my curiosity about screen characteristics on the different kinds of systems we use. I knew that some systems could accommodate only 72 characters on a line before wrapping, but for this to become problematic with more than a 50-60 character line comes as a surprise to me. Is that actually commonplace, or what? Where is the central tendency? Where do the systems of the various of us stand in this regard? BTW, Mike, I look forward to hearing more of the Bobs on the HGP recording. Speaking of which, my contribution of record for this semiannum shall be "The Hallelujah Patrol," by Garrison Keillor. Speaking of records, the current _Rolling Stone_ gives four stars to Madonna's _Erotica_, 3.5 stars to Prince's new album with the unpronounceable glyph for a title, and 2.5 stars to Sinead O'Connor's last album before switch- ing to opera. The other day, _Fresh Air_ on NPR generally panned Prince, and opined that Madonna's album had its moments, but generally wasn't much better. Vickie's mention the other day of the bad CD that was overpriced at $1.99 reminded me of something I read in an old _Stereo Review_ some time ago. The letter-writer related how he'd put a CD he didn't like into his fish tank, on the theory that the color reflections would entertain the fish. In short order, the water in the tank dissolved the thing. Is it a form of animism to posit that aquarium water can have good taste in music? :-) Mitch ------------------------ "Trust everybody but cut the card images." -not Mr. Dooley ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: "A hard ware's gonna fall?"--not Bob Dylan [and other stories] Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:06:58 EST Hi, In response to Mitch's question, I use an X-based display, so I have windows that can be as big as I want... I usually confine myself to 80 characters across. Mitch also writes: >Speaking of records, the current _Rolling Stone_ gives four stars to Madonna's >_Erotica_, 3.5 stars to Prince's new album with the unpronounceable glyph >for a title, and 2.5 stars to Sinead O'Connor's last album before switch- >ing to opera. The other day, _Fresh Air_ on NPR generally panned Prince, >and opined that Madonna's album had its moments, but generally wasn't much >better. Which brings to mind that reviews are personal opinions, and there is no such thing as a bad review. IMHO, _Erotica_ deserves * 1/2, O+> ***, and AINYG ****. I am mostly pissed off at the Madonna review in RS. I can't find anything innovative about that album. I wasn't impressed when I got it, and still can't gather up the enthusiasm to put it in the CD player. I have grown to like more and more tracks from the Prince album, and already like it better than _Diamonds and Pearls_, but the raps are so bad... [Nothing against raps, just to avoid any potential flames]. Which brings to mind. Has anybody bought or listened to the new Neneh Cherry? RS gives it **** and the honor review spot, and I've read good things about it... I guess I should just go and buy it... Oh, and I found out that a student I TA'd last year is in a band that just got a 5 record deal with some local label, and it features female (and male) vocals (ratio 60:40). I am waiting for a tape of the 6 songs they've recorded, and hope to see them live soon. They're called _Spore_. I'll keep you posted about what their music is like. [hint: noizy con melodic vocals, ie promising] That's all for now, Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:20:23 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Jeff Smith ****** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Henry Kilmer Wed December 11 1968 CallMeHank Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Subject: Song about dead lover? From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us (Stuart Castergine) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:17:06 -0500 I'm in need of a good song, lyrics, specifically, about a woman who is grieving for her dead lover. I'm looking for something KaTeish, but I can't recall anything that exactly fits (Wedding List won't do it, doesn't fit the scene). It's for a scene in a not-to-be-published bit of group fiction (i.e., no profit motive, copyrights not an issue, not to be distributed beyond the authors). The woman in question has just seen her lover shot to death; he dies not quite in her arms. She's a reckles romantic type, always thought she'd be the first to go. He was this solid stabilizing influence in her life, the one thing she could always count on. His death was a complete fluke. She's very broken up. Oh yeah, she's a singer/musician, modeled not exactly on Kate, but definitely influenced by her. If anybody can think of something, let me know. Maybe something by Tori or Happy? Happy can be wonderfully depressing, this sounds like her territory. :-) --- scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us -- Stuart M. Castergine --- I still dream of Orgonon. |/ |\ ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:28:41 -0230 From: eperry@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: I'm back Hi Folks! I just want to let people know I have returned from my field trip to the Orkneys and will catch up on my email messages as soon as possible (I'm not ignoring you, honest!). There was a big pile of packages awaiting my return -- thanks Mitch, Klaus, Alberta-Tim and Albert! Great fun! Martin, did the tape get there? It was really nice to find all of the warm "welcome home"s. Thank you. The research went exceptionally well (the grey seal pups were very cooperative) and the islands were magical. You folks have been busy while I was gone! It will be a few days before I get caught up on all of the digests. I do want to pass along belated bday wishes to all those I've missed starting with Jessica and continuing through the list. Hope you all had great days! Beth ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 13:38:19 EST From: Laura Clifford Subject: Psychowelders turnaround For those people who've mail ordered the Psychowelders' CD, about how long did it take you to get it? I sent a check off almost a month ago and still haven't received anything....if anyone thinks it sounds like it's landed in the dead letter office, would they be so kind as to resend me the address cuz I threw it away after I mailed the check. Thanks so much! Laura P.S. For anyone who might be interested - avoid Home Alone II like the plague - possibly the worst movie I've seen this year ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 13:34:42 MST From: dbx@teton.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, A fuzzy warm blue Happy HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Alan Ezust! (Well, actually it's tomorrow, but I will be electronically incommunicado then). I hope your own personal holiday is filled with fun, music, and some magical snow (or at least not the troublesome variety). It's snowing like crazy here right now, though it's too warm to stick. Finally (though in my opinion, sadly), the Boycott Colorado campaign is getting into high gear. Two factors kick-started the effort. Internally, the Colorado gay rights group reached consensus to support the boycott. Externally, the Atlanta city government's decision broke the ice. Will people on this list supporting the boycott allow a teensy weensy exception for my tape dubbing project? Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: 20 Nov 92 10:22:43 EST From: MJM Subject: shawn colvin/vance gilbert rvw Last night I was one of about 100 lucky Chicagoans to get to see what was probably about the best solo acoustic show I have ever witnessed. I will keep this short, but up front I would like to encourage you all to check out Shawn Colvin and her surprisingly fresh opening act Vance Gilbert (from Boston). Vance Gilbert is an African American Folk singer/songwriter/guitarist. He is a master technician, and uses more different chords than any other folk musician I've seen. His folk is jazzified, funkified, fortified and amplified. He has a brilliant theatrical voice (he did one song a cappella, and it was more like a short play!). He uses his black visage to enrich his musical persona, singing one song about country-western rap. The audience, who by in large had never heard of him, brought him back for two encores. He has produced a solo tape called Face to Face and unfortunately, that is all the recorded material he offers (it was a home-spun project). He is touring with Colvin and he himself was *easily* worth the relatively low price ($13+2) of admission. Any other performer might have been hopelessly overshadowed by such an outstandingly strong opening act. In fact, I had only seen Colvin once before, opening for Richard Thompson, and she was somewhat lost in the crowd there. Last night this was not to be. Holly and I managed to secure second row, center seats, and my neck was a little stiff after the show from watching. I can say with glowing confidence that *every* *single* song Shawn played beat the album version hands down. No contest. You have not experienced this artist until you have seen her live, close-up. Everything they say about her is true. She produces a complete, polished sound, using the guitar as 4 different instruments, base, rhythm, lead, and beat. It is a wonder to behold the veins in her strumming arm pulsating with every wrist flick. And her song-writing is a perfect match for her talent. She played all the "hits" from the first album (incl. shotgun, diamond, steady on) plus most of the new album. Fat City, the title track, was a hilite in a show that contained nothing but hilites! And for encores she played ample, stark covers of the Talking Heads (This Must Be the Place) and the Police (Magic). Well, you have my opinion. As you can see I am still drooling over this evening of music. You can see the dripping on your screen... :-) If you like fine guitaring, well-written songs, and enjoy being mesmorized, I heartily recommend you check out this tour when it comes your way. -exhiliratedandhappytobealivemjm ======================================================================== From: rhogan@chaph.usc.edu (Ronald Hogan) Subject: Friday night Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 2:42:58 PST First off, a confession-- despite the encouragement of various parties on ecto, I could have gone to see Loreena McKenitt here in Los Angeles tonite, but I did not go to that concert after all. Which is a shame, because I do have The Visit, and it's an excellent CD which will be finding its way onto my 10BEST list at the end of the year, but... I didn't go because I already had tickets to see They Might Be Giants the same night at Faifax High School. This was an excellent show-- the opening act, Young Fresh Fellows, was okay, nothing to write home about, but when TMBG took the stage, opening with "The Guitar"-- well, it was the kind of slaphappy, pickmeup evening that this soul, battered by graduate school and its machinations, badly needed at this point in my semester. They play as a five-man band live, with John and John at the helm, but now with a bassist, drummer, and keyboard/saxophone player. As a result, some songs, like "Ana NG" really rock now, even more than they did on their album. "Birdhouse in Your Soul" was another one that went well in the live version. For the encore, John and John came out along and did "Mammal" and "Istanbul Not Constantinople" on guitar and accordion-- with a really bizarre echo treatment on the last half of the latter song, like Phil Spector gone off the deep end (oh wait, that's redundant, isn't it?), and then the rest of the band came out for "Don't Let's Start" and the grand finale, a cover of the Edgar Winter Group's "Frankenstein." OK, I'll admit it-- being born in 1970, I have this dark nostalgic glee for cheesy pop of the '70s like that song-- part of the reason I was so ecstatic to find the soundtrack to Reservoir Dogs in the record store I checked before the show. Any film which knows that the "ooga chucka" version of "Hooked On A Feeling" is the canonical version, and has "Little Green Bag" over the opening titles, this is a film which I accredit. Actually, I like everything about this film-- one of the most stucturally perfect things I've seen in a long time-- but the music was a definite plus for me. I mean, sure, I like to think of myself as surfing on the wave of the future, but that doesn't mean you can't flirt with the undertow every once in a while. Or something like that. Getting back to the concert, this being LA, celebrities were in attendance. I met Weird Al Yankovic in line for soda, and then when I was looking for my seat, I asked the guy standing next to me in the aisle if he saw the signs on the chairs and it turned out to be Brendan Fraser from Encino Man and School Ties. Since I went to high school with an extra in School Ties, we talked about that for a while, and then this girl ran up to him and said, "Are you the guy from Encino Man?" He says yeah, and then she replies, "OK, I just wanted to know," and runs back up the aisle. That was a moment. One great concert, a great tape, and mail from home in the postbox. All in all, it's been a good day, except for missing the McKenitt concert, and the studio appearance at KCRW this morning (trust me to book my one lunch date in a month opposite Loreena McKenitt-- fate strikes big). Ron ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 11:21:35 EST From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) Subject: World Cafe -Wednesday Hello Ecto-people! Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated..... I'm currently very behind on digests, having been away quite alot recently, and busy catching up with work when not away. However I'm now working my way through the backlog and, hopefully should be being more active on this list soon. In the mean time, for those people who get World Cafe on their local NPR stations, can I suggest that you listen to it on Wednesday 25th November. Should be interesting.... bye for now -Anthony ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 12:10:52 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Alan Ezust & Kevin Bartlett!! Alan, I hope your day is truly wonderful! Kevin...well...Kevin gets to spend the day with Happy so we already know he's one lucky dude... Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 12:17:54 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Psychofolks I'll try to get in touch with Rhondda and see what the deal is. R's not the type to just space people off, so there must be a good reason why Angelos and Laura haven't gotten their CDs yet. I'll let you know. Speaking of Psychofolks, we saw Boiled in Lead live last night. YOWIE!! They are better than ever! They have a new fiddler player from Boston, Joe Kessler from the band Hypnotic Clambake, and he's *brilliant*!! Perfect, perfect, perfect for the band! (I gave Drew, the guitarist, a CD of Warpaint. Hope he likes...) Sorry we missed Shawn Colvin :-(. We might get to see Syd Straw tonight though. Neile!! Got the tape!! Yay!! More later!! Vickie ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 08:21:46 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* ***** Alan Ezust ****** *** Kevin Bartlett **** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Henry Kilmer Wed December 11 1968 CallMeHank Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Subject: our HGP selection & "Die Nixe" From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:13:17 GMT We've just recorded our HGP'92 selection. It is: Klaus: Pete Bardens, "Man Alive", from "Seen One Earth", 1987 Claudia: Bel Canto, "Keena Mareme", from "Unicorn" CD5, 1992 I've just read about an interesting CD release. It is "Die Nixe" (The Mermaid) by Christa Fast & Annette Humpe. It's a modern fairytale for adults with music by Annette Humpe. The CD contains a German and an English version. Storytellers of the English version are Peter Gabriel (fisherman) and Annie Lennox (mermaid)!!! I'll let you know what it's like when I've found it. But where to look for it? _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:40:20 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: I lost some messages & stuffy I don't know how it happened, but I lost a bunch of things tht came in last night. I got on quickly to scan before we headed out to the BiL concert, quit out, and now I'm going back to read more thoroughly what I only scanned. Only, they're not there! Ack! Among the missing, that I know I saw last night: e-mail from Meredith, about the HBP (no, don't send another tape, because Jessica has your tape and will send it with hers.) e-mail from Cathy, *please* resend! Laura's asking about the Psychowelders (Chris called and left a message on R's answering machine, she hasn't called back yet.) post from Meredith, was it in rdt(?) about Tori's video. I don't know what all else. If anyone sent me e-mail, please resend it. I also get the Ecto Digest, but the latest one hasn't come in yet. I should start getting the rdt Digest too, 'cause I probably lost other rdt posts. I broke my glasses last week and today I went to have another eye exam and order new glasses. While I was out and about, I found a cool store that carries magazines and newspapers from all over the world. I picked up a few things, including the Nov. issue of Request, with a great review of US and an article about Maire Brennan. Did anyone know that "Maire" is pronounced "Moya"? I didn't. That's the really *bummer* thing about Celtic, it doesn't sound *anything* like it's spelled. Which is the one reason I dread playing Celtic music on my show. Moya...geez! And I've been saying Mare (like a female horse) all this time. Lord knows how "Brennan" is pronounced, they don't say in this article. Also picked up the British GQ with Peter Gabriel on the cover, and a *great* article within. It's about time he was on the cover of something, it really seems as if he's being ignored this time around, with the exception of reviews here and there. Hey, 'philes in other countries, please start/continue to mention articles about interesting people in local magazines/newspapers. This store doesn't carry everything, but it's always worth a try. It seems to have more UK publications than anything else (like The Face, Q, the major weeklys-NME, etc., Time-Out and some others) but there were also quite a few French publications. I didn't check out all the different magazines, so I don't know if there was anything from Germany or Australia. I wish I'd known about this place earlier, I bet I could have found a lot of Tori articles. :-( The newest issue of Mondo has Diamanda Galas on the cover. I haven't read the article yet. I picked up the newest Dirty Linen because it has an article about the Toronto WOMAD festival. I know we have some Torontophiles, did *anyone* see Sheila Chandra's show??? There's a wonderful review of it within the WOMAD article. (I've just flipped through the rest of the magazine, but I did see a review of Ingrid Karklins and Jane Siberry's first album re-release.) Does anyone know (Ken D.? Ken J?) if Dirty Linen pounces on people who pass along things that appear in the magazine? I'd like to type in the Sheila Chandra bit and a few reviews, but I noticed that DL is on the net, or at least, they have strong connections. Various information about artist's tour schedules, compiled by Dirty Linen, can be found via anonymous ftp at nysernet.org in /folk_music/dirty_linen/DLCALxxx.TXT (where xxx is the month abbreviation.) A quick scan of the file reveals that it's mainly America-centric, with some Canadian dates here and there, and no European or other dates, that I saw. Among the artists I saw listed were Altan, The Bobs, Iris De Ment, Sarah Hickman, Tish Hinojosa (her tour is quite extensive. I *highly* recommend seeing her if you can!) Patty Larkin, Loreena, Youssou N'Dour, Claudia Schmidt, The Story, Sweet Honey in the Rock, and *LOTS* of other people, many that I don't know, many that I probably should know. If someone doesn't have ftp capability and you have a question about any of these artists, e-mail me, or, there is an address listed in Dirty Linen for more information. Alan Roworth at alan@lpl.org. The calendar is updated bi-weekly. The article about Tish Hinojosa in this Dirty Linen calls her "a singer of songs and a teller of tales...thirteenth child of Mexican immigrants, she grows up speaking Spanish and listening to Mexican radio...yet is firmly imprinted by the ethos of the Woodstock Nation...one of the most unique and multi-talented musicians the Southwest has produced in this generation, an artist whose balladry ranges from the haunting Mexican folksongs of her childhood to the twang of Western Swing, and continues into the vibrant rhythms of the growing New Country movement..." I only have one of her albums, _Homeland_, but I think it's wonderful, and I do want to get more (she has 5.) YOW!! Just now, as I was looking at the Tish discography, I glanced over to the next page and there's an article about the group Outback by Anil Prasad. Tori fans will recognize his name from rdt, and I recently sent him information about Happy. Cool! Anyway, info about Tish can be had from Manazo Music, 708 Rio Grande, Suite 250, Austin, TX 78701, Tel:(512) 472-2262, FAX(512) 472-2269. Angelos, Chris bought me the new Neneh Cherry and though I haven't listened closely yet, I like it! As a whole, better than her 1st one, though this one doesn't have anything on the level of "Manchild" or my favorite from the 1st, "Next Generation." I don't like the very first song on the new one, but the rest of it I did. I have to listen to it more. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:44:02 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: our HGP selection & "Die Nixe" Klaus writes: -> We've just recorded our HGP'92 selection. It is: -> -> Klaus: Pete Bardens, "Man Alive", from "Seen One Earth", 1987 -> Claudia: Bel Canto, "Keena Mareme", from "Unicorn" CD5, 1992 -> I've just read about an interesting CD release. It is "Die Nixe" -> (The Mermaid) by Christa Fast & Annette Humpe. It's a modern -> fairytale for adults with music by Annette Humpe. The CD contains -> a German and an English version. Storytellers of the English -> version are Peter Gabriel (fisherman) and Annie Lennox (mermaid)!!! -> I'll let you know what it's like when I've found it. But where to -> look for it? Sounds great!! Thanks! Vickie ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)