Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #367 ecto, Number 367 Wednesday, 18 November 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* On the lighter side of macho... Fluff (tm) colvin, shawn Hbp, Hgp and other assorted goodies song reservation for HGP'92 HBP selection Pamela Golden ======================================================================== Date: 16 November 1992 14:47:29 CST From: Subject: On the lighter side of macho... A column by David Evans in the November 13 _Chicago Tribune_ summarizes a paro- dy now being circulated in the United States Air Force, titled "The Second Coming of the Manly Man." Anonymously written, "Second Coming" discusses chan- ges in the Air Force since the end of the Gulf War, largely through the efforts of Gen. Merrill McPeak, the incumbent Chief of Staff and "the Big Kahuna of manly men." McPeak, Evans notes, is a fighter pilot, a group which he says view themselves as "steely-eyed Olympian[s] dedicated to achieving air suprem- acy over enemy skies," and look upon other types of air crew members supercili- ously: transport pilots as "trash-haulers," navigators as "four-eyed nerds," and assorted others as "pencil-neck geeks." "So far," Evans continues, "McPeak is making good progress." The former coequa l fighter, bomber and transport commands have been dropped in favor of a single Air Combat Command dominated, unsurprisingly, by fighter pilots. He adds that a report issued when the independent Air Force was established in 1947, which the parody's authors call "The Source of All Knowledge," recommended a single combat command, but that this plan was dropped under pressure from the Army, which saw it as a threat to support for ground combat troops. Evans goes on to discuss some semiotic changes initiated by McPeak. He has revived the shoulder patch worn by Army pilots in World War II; this had previously given way to an "Air Force shield" also used by the civilian Secretary of the Air Force, and on navigator's wings. The uniform itself is also being redesigned, from the original that "bore a striking resemblance to a bus driver's attire" to an "airline pilot style" design that features "Navy-like" rank insignia on the sleeves, "thereby providing an even better slam against the Army." Evans concludes, "there is...skepticism that leaders busy with uniforms, patche s and consolidating their own power are out of touch with the emerging reality of the post-Cold War era. For example, trash-haulers may be more useful in places like the Balkans and Somalia than manly men flying high overhead in supersonic F-22 fighters. But then, "Special Problem No. 4" [the document that recommended a fighter-dominated unified combat command in the '40's] was writt- en by Homo Erectus Manliness, whose descendants are more in charge than ever." (I seem to recall reading another news item that appeared in late 1990, to the effect that McPeak had banned the wearing of T-shirts under open-necked uniform shirts. Reportedly, some Air Force personnel felt that this directive was in- tended to ensure the greatest possible exposure for chest hair.) Mitch Pravatiner U15289@uicvm.uic.edu ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:25:47 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, First, my humble apologies to those whose birthdays have passed in the last week or two without my best wishes for them. I've been suffering from near terminal brain lock. :) Anyway, my very belated best wishes to Ken Latta, Nuno, and Lizzylou on your birthdays. I hope you enjoyed your day and may the year ahead be your best! On the Colorado Amendment Two fight scene, a few pieces of news are worth mentioning. First, a national gay rights summit failed to reach a decision about whether to call for a boycott of Colorado. Second, an appeals court judge in California threw out a similar law passed in Concord CA, on the grounds that it targeted a single group. Third, not only are the number of incidents against gays rising, the number of incidents of harrassment and threats against evangelical Christians, their organizations, and Colorado Springs is also rising. As usual, hate and ignorance only beget more hate and ignorance. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: 17 Nov 92 10:33:04 EST From: MJM Subject: colvin, shawn Mitch elaborates: || In reply to Mike Mendelson's query, Warner didn't do anything to || Shawn Colvin; Columbia did. To wit, after they signed her, they || reportedly made her withdraw her self-published concert album, of || which I apparently have one of the last few copies. At least some || of the songs on it (e.g., "Diamond in the Rough") are || dupicated on _Steady On_, her first Columbia album; I don't know || the full extent of the overlap offhand. Loreena is clearly getting || much more enlightened treatment from Warner with respect to her || earlier, self-published albums. This is truly a shame. There is a live track on the _Theodore_ compilation (that also has a Kate Bush song on it) of Shotgun down the Avalanche, which kicks the album version to betsy. A whole album of Colvin live would be great! I listened to Fat City at more length, and in general, it is more upbeat than Steady On. Unlike Vickie, I have no problem recommending it. I will have to check out Robin Holcomb and Barbara Gosza, neither of whom about I know anything. What I find generally with folkish artists in this genre is that the vinyl simply does not do them justice... they must be seen live. I found this with John Gorka, who I liked alot on CD but liked even more live, Patty Larkin (ditto), and numerous others. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:12:27 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Re: Fluff (tm) Hi! Doug has supplied us with more information on Colorado's Amendment Two. I'd like to comment on one part of it: >[...] Third, not only are the number of >incidents against gays rising, the number of incidents of harrassment and >threats against evangelical Christians, their organizations, and Colorado >Springs is also rising. [...] Doug, has there been any comment from gay organizations condemning the incidents of harrassment against the fundamentalists? And what do the fundamentalists have to say about the incidents against gay folk? Also, in my own somewhat paranoid musings, it has occurred to me that it is a fundamentalist tactic to 'stage' harrassment and then loudly cry "See? What did we try to tell you about those damn homos? They're *bad*, they deserve to be discriminated against! AND THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN NEXT!" If this discussion has reached a point where it's of little interest to the rest of Ecto, let me know and I'll shut up! :-) Or at least take it completely off-line (really, Doug, I *do* intend to answer that mail!). -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@cray.com ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:46:49 CST From: kiri Subject: Hbp, Hgp and other assorted goodies hiya folx...just a few words. Saw Dracula over the weekend with Court and bunch of other friends that were visiting her. Court had to move (her neighbors at her last apt were shooting guns...long story) anyway...she had a house-warming party this past weekend for her new place - I'll give y'all the address as soon as I get it...:) Dracula was intense... Gothic Romantic....we were enthralled gotta love a movie with Keanu and Winona....hehe :) Vickie: court and I will be making a tape for the HGP over thanksgiving so keep your eyes open for it sometime after the holidays. I decided I didn't have time to come home for thanksgiving, but I'll see you all over xmas for certain - hope everything is going well. Don't have a clue what songs we'll be putting on..but I'll let you know asap....i might choose a song by Laurie Freelove that is absolutely beautiful....... not much is happening here in mississippi...i'm ashamed to say that ms was the only state where Bush won by a majority... why? why? why? do I have to live here hehe...I'm _overjoyed_ that Clinton won, and Carol Mosely too... we have bets going for Gore/Braun for 2000. *grin* as far as new music goes i'm stagnating here...although i am getting back into old dance favis like nitzer ebb, nice inch nails etc. it's sorta a revolt against the omnipresent country that my neighbors play. I did get Tribes Abort for $4 at the local record store though...which was great - excellent album :) I also got the new Peter Gabriel, but wasn't too thrilled with it...I am getting into more and more as I listen, but something about it just doesn't touch me the way his other albums do. at any rate, back to being a busy beaver kIRi **************************************************** * Kiri Hargie byhargie@vm.cc.olemiss.edu * * byhargie@umsvm * * A ni nach cluinn cluas cha ghluais cridhe * **************************************************** ======================================================================== Subject: song reservation for HGP'92 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:11:42 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu I'm tentatively planning to use Pamela Golden's "Normal Life" as my selection for the HGP '92 and hereby claim FirstDibs [tm]. Naturally, I'll alert the crowd if I change my mind... Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:27:42 EST From: jessica Subject: HBP selection Vickie (and everyone :) - I don't think i've said what song i'd like to use for the HBP. I would like to use the Talk Talk song, Desire. I will send a tape 'cause I'd like to include something spoken this time. Greg said to let everyone know (especially meredith and vickie ;) that meth's tape wasn't in the package sent to vickie but he has it and will send it asap (actually, i will send it along with mine :) jessica ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Pamela Golden Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:22:36 EST Hi, I admit I am totally blown away by her CD 'Happens all the time'. Does anybody know anything about her? Why did we discover this in 1992 when it's a 1991 release? Where is she from? What else has she done? I know that she was discussed a bit a couple of months ago, but I haven't saved the appropriate posts, and don't have the time to dig through the digests, so any information will be appreciated. Which was the commercial song? The one with 'Break it up' sounded familiar, but I can't make the link. Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Pamela Golden Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:50:34 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu > >Hi, > >I admit I am totally blown away by her CD 'Happens all the time'. >Does anybody know anything about her? Why did we discover this in 1992 when >it's a 1991 release? Where is she from? What else has she done? It's because several months ago Vickie went on a shopping binge at Tower and noticed the cover of the album and decided "what the hell." I don't recall from her story whether she had noticed the Gabriel-esque names before she bought it or if that was just a pleasant surprise upon opening the thing and reading the liner notes. Everyone else seems to have virtually ignored her. Goodness knows why. All the folks I've played it for have liked it. >Which was the commercial song? The one with 'Break it up' sounded familiar, >but I can't make the link. The song in the commercial is the beautiful, haunting, ethereal "Ballet Dream." Somehow the use of "Ballet Dream" in the commercial reminds me of the situation with Wayne Chung's _To Live and Die in LA_ soundtrack. That's one of my favorite albums (probably top 10 or 15) and I've never met anybody who actually owns it beside me. Admittedly, some folks heard the music in the movie, but no one actually seems to own the album. What makes it weird is that I *constantly* hear music from the second, instrumental, half of the record (yes, I bought in on vinyl in spring of 1985 at Sam Goody for a scary $9.99). The music shows up in commercials, audio bits on radio stations (for instance, the local alternative station (which, incidentally, has never played any Happy Rhodes the many times I've requested it--Vickie, are you sure WHFS, 99.1 in DC received a copy of the CD?) uses a chunk of music during the morning drive-time show before introducing the traffic reports. In Indiana, I used to hear a commercial with another chunk of music). Someone out there has *really* good taste in music and finds _To Love and Die in LA_ perfect for such uses. After all this fawning, I'm going to tell y'all not to rush out and buy the album. In no way does it really qualify as "ecto music" and I'm not comfortable recommending it in this forum. It's very synth-poppy with extraordinary texturing and most of it is quite danceable. I would ask, though, that you not judge this album based up on the two *wretched* releases that followed it, _Mosaic_ (which featured the *attrocious* "Everybody Have Fun Tonight"--as far as I'm concerned, Big Country is the only band allowed to use its name in a song) and _The Warmer Side of Cool_. I own neither of these albums. Fortunately. ;-) Wait a minute. Weren't we talking about Pamela Golden? ;-) Jeffy of the wind... ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:52:11 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Pamela Golden Let me try to answer your questions about Pamela Golden, Angelos. Sometime around the beginning of the 80's, three sisters from Yakima, Washington, formed a pop group called Visible Targets. The group included a male drummer; Pamela played guitar and sang. The manager of the group also owns a Seattle record store called Park Avenue Records, hence the name of Pamela's record label. Anyway, this manager tried mightily to promote the Visible Targets, pressing two popular vinyl ep-s, including one produced by Mick Ronson. The band played around the NorthWest for several years before evaporating. I didn't hear anything about the Targets for years until Pamela's CD began to appear in the 'new age' bins. I think she's pretty wonderful. Mp ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)