25-Nov-91 17:09:44-GMT,18868;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03711; Mon, 25 Nov 91 11:56:34 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29361; Mon, 25 Nov 91 11:56:31 EST Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 11:56:31 EST Message-Id: <9111251656.AA29361@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #62 ecto, Number 62 Monday, 25 November 1991 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Happy and Kate Happy Gift Project (2nd attempt) thanks! Welcome etc. Lyrics to Suburban Hum Re: More turkey stuff, and howdy everyone! ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Happy and Kate Date: Sun, 24 Nov 91 20:43:46 EST From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Kathy Guetzlaff, about a week ago, wrote: >A number of years ago (10 maybe...) a friend of mine was absoluletly mad for >Kate. He let me borrow one of her albums (Hounds of Love?) so I could see >what all the fuss was about. Frankly, my first reaction was "My god, someone >has their hands around the poor woman's throat and they *won't let go*!" Um, no. 10 years ago, _Hounds of Love_ was but a twinkle in KaTe's eye--it didn't come 'out 'til '85. If it really *was* that long ago, chances are it was one of her first two albums--either _The Kick Inside_ or _Lionheart_. Possibly _Never For Ever_. >I just couldn't get past how grating I found her voice, sorta the fingernails- >on-the-chalkboard thing, IMHO of course. It was on her first two albums that her voice was most "shrill" by many people's standards...I would never refer to it as shrill myself, as I think it's quite beautiful. >I do confess I've heard some things >since that I've enjoyed -- her contributions to Peter Gabriel's "Don't Give >Up" come to mind. KaTe's voice started, um, deepening sort of. That's not to say she can't still hit those high notes, but that her melodies are set further down the scale and the way she sings is well, lower--richer, too. A perfect example is a comparison of the two versions of "Wuthering Heights," one from from '78 and the other from '86. She's no Happy Rhodes in terms of her lower register, but her voice is rather different from the way it was 10 years ago. >So maybe some kind soul would volunteer to make me a tape of what they think >is a good progression of Kate's music -- I probably shouldn't just dismiss >her music without giving it a proper chance. I'd be happy to send a tape >and cover shipping costs. If you're still interested in this and nobody has agreed to do it, I will... let me know and I'll send you my address. Jeff (who enjoys calamari and other assorted weird foodstuffs) ======================================================================== Subject: Happy Gift Project (2nd attempt) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 09:40:39 N From: Klaus Kluge Dear Ectophiles ! """"""""""""""""" This is the 2nd announcement of an idea which I have now renamed to the "Happy Gift Project", and the main goal is to create a gift for Happy from us Ectophiles. The details: """""""""""" The idea is to assemble a tape with possibly a spoken message from everyone and ONE song she/he would like to dedicate to her. Practically that means everyone sends a tape with her/his message and the song to Vickie (she already volunteered to do it, THANK YOU !!!) who will create a tape with all the songs and messages and will send it to Albany (probably wrapped up in fuzzy blue paper). Every participant will get her/his tape back with a copy of what Happy receives _if_postage_to_send_it_back_is_included_! There are no restrictions about what song to select, except not to take one from Happy (unless it is your own cover of one of her songs). It would be nice to have a variety of music, so I hope not everyone will select one from KaTe. Maybe you have a song where you think Happy should hear it. Vickie suggested to put KaTe's "December Will Be Magic Again" on the tape as the first song (from all of us), since Happy's probably never heard that song, and since it was KaTe who brought us all together. It would be great if we find someone to do an artwork for the cassettes cover? Volunteers? Ideas? I hope I don't have to draw the cover myself. My art-skills are aweful. We would risk that she wouldn't even tough the tape. :) If you have any more suggestions let us know! The project is still in an early stage, so chances are good we can incorporate them. Please don't send any tapes now ! """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Just write if you would like to join in, and think about which song YOU would like to contribute. If you have a message to H&K but no possibility to put that on the tape (why doesn't my recorder have a microphone or even jack for it?) write it down, and we could ask Vickie or someone else to speak it on the tape for you. If you already know what song you would like to send, let us know the title and its length as well. That way we can make sure we don't have several copies of the same song, and we can find out what tapelength we need. I will post summaries of the entries. There will be one or two additional announcements before it actually starts. I would like to suggest that we try to give the tape to Happy at the end of the year. Could we find a better deadline? To give Vickie enough time to assemble the final tape, we should send our tapes in, about 3-4 weeks before that date. I want to point out that I don't want to put a financial burden on Vickie by having to send possibly one or two dozens of tapes back. I am sure you don't want that either. Vickie already has the major work on the project and I am very pleased that she volunteered to handle the tapes. So when you are sending a tape later in the project, please remember to include some $$$ for return postage. We can discuss the details when the project is in a more advanced stage. Participants """""""""""" Here is a list of Ectophiles who have written that they would like to join, and what their contributions might be. (Sorry if I missed someone. I was browsing through a lot of messages.) Courtney Dallas "a SILLY Welsh love song" Doug Burks Carole King, "Tapestry" Gregory Bossert Jessica & Greg, "a homemade present" Jessica Dembski Jessica, "something from KaTe?" kIrI Hargie ??? Klaus Kluge (come on Klaus, make up your mind) Manfred Mann's Plain Music, "Instrumedicine Song", 4:06 or Ofra Haza, "Galbi", 3:13 or Midge Ure, "The Gift", 4:57 Martin Dougiamas ??? Meredith Tarr New Group, "Wuthering Heights" Steve VanDevender Thomas Dolby, "Cloudbusting" Vishal Markandey Vishal & Jo Anna, "Don't give up" Corrections and additions are most welcome! _________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . . | countdown: 19 days --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | <== ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 00:50:41 PST From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Happy Gift Project (2nd attempt) >Steve VanDevender > Thomas Dolby, "Cloudbusting" Make that Thomas Dolby, "Cloudburst at Shingle Street" Too much Kate on the brain lately for me. I thought I had mistyped it that way when I sent it, and a quick check of my archives verified it. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 Nov 91 08:59:00 EDT From: @cdp.igc.org:S.A..Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.Fidonet.Org (S.A. Ezust) Subject: thanks! Date: Fri Nov 22 08:59:44 1991 GMT+2 Two kwik notes, since i don't have much else to say right now... Martin: Thanks for the lyrics!! Anyone else who was thinking of sending them to me, please don't, as I already got em. Klaus: Thanks for the happy birthday message!! I'm actually celebrating it tonight with a night on the town... Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org University of Zimbabwe, Harare Engineering CAL Project --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 02:46 CST From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Welcome etc. Vickie here. Fuzzy blue welcomes to Claudia and Dan the St. Paul Man! Dan, you might end up having to mail order Happy's albums, but since a station in Mpls is playing something from Warpaint now there might be stores that carry it. Tomorrow I'll call Kevin and find out if he's sent any to that area. I imagine he has, so I'll let you know. All these winter storms are passing up Chicago. Yesterday we got some flurries, nothing more than a dusting though. Klaus has a fuzzy blue home EctoUnit now! Yay!! Last night we went to an incredible concert. Ursula Dudziak is the woman's name. She's a singer from Poland who became fairly well-known in the 70s for her jazz vocals, but now she's gone avant-guarde and was (very aptly) described as "as cross between Laurie Anderson and Meredith Monk)! She sang acapella, and used electronics to record her voice and kept adding layers (sort of a vocal Frippertronics) and used those layers as background for the songs. Jorn went with us, perhaps he can describe it better than me. It was wonderful and she's got an amazing voice. She's not on tour, we got the impression she came to Chicago to visit a friend, then was booked for this show last minute. It was at an art gallery that features wooden sculptures, called "The Wooden Gallery" (suprise, suprise!). I bought a CD, but we've had company so I haven't even had a chance to listen to it yet. I'm in another Warpaint thrall. I'm beginning to like Wrong Century much more. It's always been the song that gave me trouble. Maybe it's because of what Alan said, that it's tough to listen to after hearing Phobos. I did have trouble with the male vocals, but now I understand why they were used, and I'm used to them. I melt when I hear the ah ahhhhs near the end. Going to bed now. Except for a couple of hours yesterday, I haven't had a chance to sit down at the computer and write anything. What I did yesterday was answer a post in gaffa. For those gaffa readers who read it, all I can say is...I counted to 10. Really I did. Honestly. *sigh* Seeya, Vickie ps, *HUG* to you too Court! pps, I almost forgot...I don't think there ever was an actual poster for the Peachy Sensual World shot. It was a photo that appeared in a magazine. One of the English music mags, Melody Maker I think. Anyway, that's the only place I've ever seen the peach shot. If there is a poster, I'd live to have it! I have the Sand poster. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 03:54 CST From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Lyrics to Suburban Hum Vickie here. Tim from South Africa sent me the lyrics to Suburban Hum. At this time, only Jeff Burka and Barry would get any use out of them, they're the only ones who have the song on tape. However, I am posting them because this is fascinating, even if you've never heard the song. And anyway, maybe someday you will. **************************************************************************** Suburban Hum Jennifer Fergusson There's a high pitched humming Of a Sunday Afternoon And she's lying there waiting The feeling of doom That is singing in the gardens And singing in the leaves Hot, hot earth Waiting for the breeze There's a smell of rotten peaches Hanging thick on the ground And pink bodied children make shrieking sounds She's lying under leaves Waiting to be numbed By the smouldering lull Of suburbia hum.... Should she put rocks in her pockets Or mud in her eyes To stop her mind contracting In these terrrible sighs? What a sentence to futility! What a terrible cry That thunders thro' the gardens And scrambles to the sky (Chorus) Oh, I still care about the future I still do worry about the past I'm still caught up with this desire For a Fine Time That is good And going to last A long time See the little black girls Running on her feet She's running fast Fast from the bullet That she might just meet She's hunting for her brothers To get them off the streets The times are hungry For the smell of meat The politicians make their Professional Lies As they desperately cling to their Political Tries While the world all around them Is crumbling at it's knees Their wives are drinking tea Under jacaranda trees 'purple blossoms falling all around them' Boetie's on the Border Still fighting for the country If he doesn't blow his brains out He'll be back to go a-hunting For the terries in his backyard And in his wife's bed Coming in from the townships And growing in his laaities head Bang! Bang! (Chorus) The sad ones change to mad ones In the changing of the times How are we to judge Upon the suffering of mankind? Our voices are lost in the glorious machinery That clatters Like a thousand rattling shopping trolleys.... Onward Christian Soldiers Marching as to War With the cross of Jesus Going on before But we're still making love We're still making war It's not for us to even try to choose anymore Between the inertia And the blue swimming pools We've still got to ..... pool I don't know sometimes Where to place my hands I'm a white-girl-white In this darkening land All I know is sometimes Where I long to be it's back in my Ermelo childhood garden - it's back in my Ermelo childhood garden Sitting in my old oak tree When the world grew all around me ------ The reference to black girl in verse 4 - In the township, groups of youths (usually boys) wandered around and built obstacles in the roads and stoned passing vehicles. These boys were therefore targets for rubber bullets and sjambok (bullwhip) attacks by the police. Sometimes the police used live ammunition. There wase a period in 1986 where there was an unrest related funeral once a week in Grahamstown. At the time political gatherings were banned and the funeral services were conducted in stadiums where political speeches could be made. Boetie's on the border - Boetie is a common term of endearment for young Afrikaans boys - it means 'brother'. Some boys are called Boetie. There was a film made in SA called BOETIE GAAN BORDER TOE (Boetie goes to the border) which is what this refer's to. (Incidentally, in some black languages "Buti" - sounded the same as Boetie - is used as a descriptive term for a man. When you greet a man whose name you don't know you say "hello Buti"). Terries = terrorists laaitie = lighty (slang for a young kid - a lighty because he/she is small!) Last verse: Ermelo - a small town in the Northern Transvaal - owe's the reason for it's existence mainly to the fact that there is a huge coal power station there. I believe she was interviewed in a weekly paper a couple of months ago. I will send you info on this if I can find it. Tim **************************************************************************** Vickie again. Question for Jeff Burka. I haven't yet checked these lyrics with the actual song. In the verse about the little black girl, does the line he writes "Fast from the bullet/That she might just meet" sound to you like "fast from the bullet /that her daddy's gonna meet"? Hmm. Also, I could swear that she sings "Inertia is the true killing field" so either my ears are totally weirded out or she changed some lyrics from the lyric sheet when she actually recorded the song. ======================================================================== From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) Subject: Re: More turkey stuff, and howdy everyone! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 8:40:05 CST Dan -- Welcome from another Twin Citian! >I'm assuming that _Warpaint_ is the one I should look for... >to you Twin Cities denziens, do you know of any stores I can find >Happy's music in? Also, are there any local stations that could >be persuaded to play her? I've been told that Happy's music can be found at the Electric Fetus. Also, KTCZ is playing some of her stuff (what they can fit in between old Beatles dreck and Wang Chung -- I wish that stupid station would make up its mind about what it wants to be when it grows up...). >Buried in snow (again) Hey, my brand new 8 h.p. snowblower dealt with this last 6" like a dream! It was almost (*yawn*) BORING! -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@cray.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Nov 91 10:40:47 EST From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn Subject: re: Happy Gift Project Well through endless hours of personal deliberation I think Ive come down to one of two songs: -- my yet to be recorded cover of The Handsome Cabin Boy or Clannad: Eirigh is cuir ort do chuid eadaigh coiriu "Arise and dress yourself" It's a Donegal love song where the composer longs desparately to elope with his loved one to a place where he is surrounded only by nature's undisturbed beauty. Ill know by next week which song I will definitely choose. kIrI \____________________/_______________________________________\ | kIrI | hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu | | "who is by my | Im a thinking breathing human being | | immortal side" | What the hell are you? | /-------------------\----------------------------------------/ ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)