22-Nov-91 6:12:01-GMT,15005;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21492; Fri, 22 Nov 91 01:00:56 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23334; Fri, 22 Nov 91 01:00:48 EST Date: Fri, 22 Nov 91 01:00:48 EST Message-Id: <9111220600.AA23334@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #56 ecto, Number 56 Friday, 22 November 1991 Today's Topics: *-----------------* This bounced... Re: ack!! Re: WXPN It didn't start with me... Re: bag of stuff ectocosm complete silence (fwd) [National Suicide Day] ======================================================================== From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) Subject: This bounced... Date: Thu, 21 Nov 91 14:48:13 CST (The following note seemed to have bounced the first time around or so says Postmaster@cs.rutgers.edu...I'll try again...) This is me >> This is Martin > >>I don't know much about Happy and her music but I like what I've heard so >>far. By the way, is it rather odd to really like Happy but not Kate Bush? > >I wouldn't think so, once you get past the superficial similarities, >they really are very different. > >But just out of interest, what of Kate's have you heard? This is me again... A number of years ago (10 maybe...) a friend of mine was absoluletly mad for Kate. He let me borrow one of her albums (Hounds of Love?) so I could see what all the fuss was about. Frankly, my first reaction was "My god, someone has their hands around the poor woman's throat and they *won't let go*!" I just couldn't get past how grating I found her voice, sorta the fingernails- on-the-chalkboard thing, IMHO of course. I do confess I've heard some things since that I've enjoyed -- her contributions to Peter Gabriel's "Don't Give Up" come to mind. Probably what I need is for someone to give me a list of what to listen to and in what order. My only reservation is that I don't care to spend lots of money on Kate's CDs only to find that I *still* don't like her music. It's what I call the Calamari Syndrome -- the first time I had the horrid stuff I hated it -- everyone said it just wasn't cooked the right way, try it some other way. Ok, fine, I gave it another chance -- I've had it breaded, broiled, sauteed, in a red sauce, in a white sauce, with garlic, and I *still* think it tastes like what rubberbands must taste like! So maybe some kind soul would volunteer to make me a tape of what they think is a good progression of Kate's music -- I probably shouldn't just dismiss her music without giving it a proper chance. I'd be happy to send a tape and cover shipping costs. And then Martin gets personal: > >And how much do you weigh? :-) :-) :-) >(Sorry, in-joke of the past few days. Did you catch the "Everything Poll"? :-) > No I missed the "Everything Poll" -- I weigh anywhere from 128 to 137 lbs depending on when dinner was, if Thanksgiving has just passed, whether I've been running, or if it's the dead of winter. Incidentally, our 30" of snow have been rapidly disappearing with the current rain and warm (40ish) weather. Like we always say in Minnesota, if ya don't like the weather, just wait an hour, it'll change! -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@cray.com ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Nov 91 15:53:09 -0500 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: ack!! no sooner than i could say "danger will robinson" (assuming i spoke v e r y v e r y s l o w l y), Martin came through with the lyrics for _smells like teen spirit_. thanks, Martin! the lyrics are actually as good as the music... maybe even better. anyone wants them, just ask... ut! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "I'm worse at what I do best and for this gift I feel blessed I met a group that's always been And always will until the end" - Nirvana ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1991 15:01:31 -0600 From: Brian Bloom Subject: Re: WXPN Well, The Innocence Mission is playing tonight here in Austin. All I've heard from them is a few tracks from Umbrella (and thought they sounded *amazingly* like 10,000 maniacs) but I'm going anyway... I'll give everyone my impressions of the show... Anyone *have* to have a souveneir if they have them? __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com ======================================================================== Date: 21 November 1991 15:41:32 CST From: Subject: It didn't start with me... The noted rock critic Greil Marcus was interviewed last week on _Fresh Air_ (NPR)), about his new book _Dead Elvis_. He noted that some Elvis product s--in contrast to my sundry fanciful prototypes--have actually hit the market over the years. The only one that sticks out in my memory after 1 1/2 weeks (a couple of others were mentioned) was "Love Me Tender Chunks." I don't recall whether Marcus said that this was, or wasn't, huckstered as "the chunks that Elvis would eat if he were a dog," or words to that effect. I have been unable to think of a name for the cat food that Happy would be most likely to eat if she were one. The closest product I've been able to come up with anything for is the I'm Going Back Kitty Window--a sort of ump- teenth cousin to the familiar Doggy Door--which could be advertised as the window Happy would look through if she were a cat (I continue to be a bit bemused by the dearth of current, active, out-of-the-closet dog people on Ecto :-) ). Mitch Pravatiner U38373 at uicvm.uic.edu ________________________ "I have to write. It's kind of like shitting." --Germaine Greer, in a 1971 _Playboy_ interview. "Shit happens MORE to those who simply accept it." --Matthew T. Russotto, in a 1991 comp-academic.freedom-talk@eff.org posting "Boy, the stuff they ask me to read." --Arthur Godfrey, prefacing innumerable live commercials over the years. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Nov 91 20:17 GMT From: MEW! *GLOAT..GLOAT..GLOAT* ok..i will stop it!!! i jsut have some VERY MEROWY news to share with ym ECTO family!!! today as i wandered thru the strets of Canterbury, i popped in this litle indoor market...i thumbed thru the posters and then picked out a fw lush Kat postcards..the nce guy behind the counter noted my interst in Kate and offered to show me some cd's also..i said "no thanks, i already have all of her cd's.." and he then proceeded to unveil the most wonderous sight to my blessed eyes!! he produced the B SIDES OF HER BOXED SET!!!!!!!!! MEW MWE MEW MEW EMW MEW MEW MEW EMW EMW EWM!!! needless to say i was ina state of rapture!!! i breathlessly asked how mch he wanted for them...i was prepared to sell my soul for them!!(either that or put my VISA in debt!!!!) he nonchalantly said "6 pounds each"...well..i nearly "#$#%&'(!!!! i casually (with suppressed [not very well i might add] excitement) pulled out my wallet and then pocketed my treasures!! some FOOL must have broken up his Kate boxed set!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!! cant believe my luck!! must have been the company i was keeping!!!! good luck for all!!! i got TWO RARE cd's for the price of one marked down cd here in the Uk... most new cd's go for about 15 pounds....thats almost $30!!!!!! so anyway..to cut my gloating ramblings short...(YEAH)..i am one VERY happy cat!!!!! and i now repeat my offer to track down harder to find KAte opbjects for you!!!!! i would love to share my good fortune in being over here in the first place by sleuthing out the hard to get stuff for you! well..thats about it for now...everyone must b ready to throw a knife at my back..but that wouldnt do any good as i have willed all of my Kate stuff to Kiri anyway...maybe you can knock her off also!!!!! noght all! MREOW! Court!!! ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Nov 91 21:13:35 EST From: jessica Subject: Re: bag of stuff Klaus says: > Jessica reveals >> vickie wonders if the peach is from the kate picture from The Sensual World, >> Kate holding a peach. yepyepyep. That's what made me decide on >You've lost me! I don't see a peach, just a flower on the album and sand on >the single (or is that a dehydrated peach? :). Well, there are two pictures (at least) from the album - two are very similar - the one of Kate with sand running through her fingers, and there is also the one of her holding a peach - they are almost identical as far as i can remember, except for the sand/peach difference. I don't tihnk i actually *have* either of them, hmm.. All my singles are at home - i tihnk one of the pictures is on the sensual world cd single, and the other is on a poster? I'm sure someone knows for sure, but it isn't me.. > and speeks in riddles >> martin asks if i'll scan it in... well, you just never know, just two >> years ago a photocopy of my rear was posted on the walls of Hill Center... >> (don't ask.. if you do, i just might tell you) >If noone asks I'll do it. Where and what is Hill Center? :) Hill Center is the building I work in. (Or did, at the time). We were being a bit silly one night.. photocopies of my rear ended up in my boss's office, and in the glass presentation cases in the hallway. My boss didn't mind the one on his desk at all, but he did make us get the one out of the presentation case :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Nov 91 21:26:09 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Subject: ectocosm barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu sez: >Also, anyone here listen to Kristy MacColl, and if so >would you reccommend getting her cd, The Electric Landlady? yepper-doodle. to both. _electric landlady_ is a mighty fine piece of work, far as i'm concerned. she basically comes from a "folk rock" background, but this latest sees her drawing on more latin beats in some places. i likes it lots. her previous effort, _kite_, is a bit more straight-forward rocky and some would say better - i think i'd go along with that as well. sez: >i'll get your tape out ASAP, but i want to get some more >bananarama cd's before i do, or you'll end up getting a lot of stuff you'ce >already heard on the radio... aiiiiiiiiiieeee! public embarrasment in ecto - woj is revealed to be a bananarama virgin about to be deflowered. i blush. :8) >in anticipation of the full moon... ayooooooooh! gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) sez: >does anyone have the lyrics to _smells like teen spirit_ by nirvana?? don't have them here, but i can get them easily from someone who spent an afternoon sitting there with headphones and pencil until he got most of them down...i'll try and track them down for you. >the album is mostly generic post-husker-du/seattle thrash-pop, but >_slts_ has got a hook that starts at the title and goes deep into >my head... and i *think* the refrain is truly obnoxious, but i can't >quite catch it... don't let them catch you saying they are seattlians - they'll probably hang you by your fuzzy blue ears (they're from olympia and think seattle sucks weenies). nirvana is making big splashes with _nevermind_. i heard today that it reached #4 on billboard. this is truly scary - two years ago, they were a grunge guitar band from the northwest and all of a sudden, they're the darlings of emptv. not a bad band though - saw them at the marquee a month or so ago and had a superior time introducing some friends of mine from cornell to the proper new york style of slamming. :) how come i never talk about happy? woj@remus.rutgers.edu - i just want to sleep on you and leave it at that ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Nov 91 21:49:28 EST From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn Subject: re: re: complete silence (fwd) [National Suicide Day] Since several people have asked me who Toni Morrison is I will just do one public mailing. Toni Morrison is a Pulitzer Prize winning novelist. Her focus is primarily on Black American society. National Suicide Day is a "happening" created by a rather loony war veteran in her book _Sula_. _Sula_ is a powerful novel, a quick easy read that leaves an incredible impression. I strongly recommend her books to everyone, they give an unusual look into the workings of Afro American society, without the jargon that ruins other books of its kind. I can't say enough about this author she truly is incredible but it's the brilliant characters that will really move you. kIrI "I'm ten feet underwater, Standing in a sunken canoe, Looking up at the water lillies, They're green and violet blue, Still the sun it finds, A place to light me" Love is a Sign The Go-Betweens ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)