11-Nov-91 8:04:14-GMT,14117;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04306; Mon, 11 Nov 91 02:56:12 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18146; Mon, 11 Nov 91 02:56:10 EST Date: Mon, 11 Nov 91 02:56:10 EST Message-Id: <9111110756.AA18146@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #30 ecto, Number 30 Monday, 11 November 1991 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Rambling through Popular Culture paula abdul Re: I wonder if I'll get away with this... :) FtF A short note Feed the Fire Mary Margaret O'Hara & cinema Clarification "Jusqu'au bout du monde" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 14:49:19 EST From: jessica Subject: Re: Rambling through Popular Culture vickie writes (about "At Close Range" and "Live to Tell"): > By the end of the film I was in tears and tatters, > it's *SUCH* a powerful film!! Knowing that it was based on a true story > made it even more so. I sat in the theater, too exhausted to move, when > the song came on over the credits. For the first time I really listened > to the lyrics and was even more devestated! Yeah. Anyone here who hasn't seen "At CLose Range" yet, should go rent it. And tell us what you think. > Madonna co-wrote the song, and the lyrics were dead-on with what went > on in the film. Well, you'll never hear another nasty word about > Madonna from me, because, for me, that one song justifies her entire > existence in music. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It does seem a bit like a silly thing to say, but that's _exactly_ what i was trying to say, just couldn't get the words quite right :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 15:02 EDT From: Subject: paula abdul the other night i happened to catch paula abdul's newset single, 'blowing kisses on the wind' and was struck by the similarities (IMHO) to KaTe's 'under the ivy'. unfortunately, i don't know enough about music proper to expound on this observation... now, i *know* this is not .gaffa, but since reading about how .gaffa seems to be these days, and knowing that .ecto is more open, i thought this would be the place to state such an opinion. the discussions about madonna didn't hurt, either. =) (who, btw, i saw on her 'virgin tour' on 26 5 85 at the uic pavillion in chicago il. it was a great concert, although the seats my sister and i had weren't so hot...) michy ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 15:07:18 EST From: jessica Subject: Re: I wonder if I'll get away with this... :) meredith writes: > I wonder if I'll get away with this... :) Hehehe. > Stephen King sucks the big one. He can't write for sh*t, he's an > egotistical bastard, and his stories are boring. The first piece and the fourth piece I can't really quesiton 'cause they're straight opinions, but I'm honestly truly just curious about the second part. (the third part I don't think matters too much, but I won't go on about that). I'm curious to know which stories of his you've read. I've read almost everything of his that's been published, and there's certainly a bunch of it that does not impress me too much. But he's written a *lot*, and some of it I find superb. Another thing that adds to my impression of him is simply how much he has written, and how diverse it is. "The Eyes of the Dragon" is so unlike anything else he's written, for example. I'm curious about your aunt's stories too - 11th grade english is a lot more than just writing. I happen to have failed 11th grade english (A long and perhaps mildly amusing story (I was otherwise nearly a straight-A student) from which I'll spare you), but the experience obviosuly shows to me that there's many many reasons to get a bad grade, far form an inability to write well. (not that i write well (hah!) but that it had *nothing* to do with the grade). So I wonder what her impressions of him were - was the bad grade because of his attitude? (you say he's an "egotistical bastard" - do you get that impression of him from your aunt's stories, or from things he's done in the public eye since?) Anyway, meredith then says: > One more thing-- our Birthday List contains, date, year, sign, day of the > week- what about time of day? I submit 4:22 PM. Anybody else? I'm 2:45am. (my poor mom). Columbia presbyterian hospital in NYC. Heh. Pretty soon we'll havenearly complete birth records for everyone. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 16:25:44 CST From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) Subject: FtF gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) writes: > hmm, Ms. Vickie can tell the whole story, if she chooses, but just to > limit the amount of tension-causing suspense, the KaTe-inspired song > on _Warpaint_ is _Feed the Fire_. look at the lyrics -- it makes sense... Yes Ms.Vickie. Please m'am ? Is it purely Kate inspired ? I always assumed it was a "Them Heavy People" kind of thing. - V ======================================================================== From: Jeanne B Schreiter Subject: A short note Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 17:10:04 CST This weekend, I had a guest from Atlanta, GA., and well, to make a short story, even shorter, he's decided to order Happy's cd, "Warpaint." (converts another one) ("Well, I'm not dead yet. :) ) Jeanne ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 18:31:22 EST From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Feed the Fire Vishal asks is "feed the fire" is purely kate inspired. The answer is Nope. It's probably inspired by *lots* of people, but most specifically it is (According to Happy herself) inspired by Kate, Bach, and Peter Gabriel. jessica ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 10 Nov 91 21:24:14 EST From: justin@bond.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Mary Margaret O'Hara & cinema from a promotional postcard: Rita the dance instructor (Mary Margaret O'Hara) coaches Angus (John Allore) in The Events Leading Up To My Death a comedy by Bill Robertson Produced by Flat Rock Films, etc., etc. The film was shown at the Festival of Festivals in Toronto this fall (but I wasn't there to see it :-(). It may turn up in regular theatres sometime this winter, at least in Toronto! The soundtrack was done by MMO'H, and an album might be released. Has anyone seen this film? I found out about it by talking with the director (at a high school reunion!). I asked him how he discovered MMO'H: it turns out they're neighbors! Other films with notable soundtracks: Percy Adlon (who did Bagdad Cafe) released Salmonberries this summer; it was presented at the Festival des films du monde in Montreal in August. k.d. lang plays the main character Kotzebue (hope that's spelled right), and sings an absolutely wonderful theme song. Wim Wenders (who did Wings of Desire) has a new film whose North American premiere was at the Festival du nouveau cinema in Montreal in October - and I missed it! grr! An amputated version of the film will be released across North America this winter; Europeans get the uncut 3-hour version. The French title is Jusqu'au bout du monde, and I think it's called Until the End of the World (or something like that) in English. The soundtrack is full of interesting musicians. Anyone have a list? I will post again if I can find one... But it's not just a collection of songs; a friend of mine in Paris comments: "Music was excellent, but hardly the most striking thing about the film." Highly recommended. justin ======================================================================== Date: 11-NOV-1991 00:03:07.15 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Clarification Hi! Jessica, my aunt's favorite story is this: one day in class she asked, "Why do we write?" After receiving a barrage of answers such as To communicate ideas, To teach, and so on, she was about to go on to something else when Stephen King raised his hand. "Mrs. Soychak, you forgot the most important reason to write!" "What is that, Stephen?" "To make money!" He hadn't been doing well in the class anyway, and I'm not sure that helped any, although my aunt isn't one to grade based on her impression of a student. (She wouldn't be a high-school principal now if she did.) The other favorite story is my mother's-- after being seriously ill in the ICU for 6 months, she finally came home and had nothing better to do than convalesce and read. _Carrie_ wasn't new, but it wasn't that old either, and someone had given it to her. Halfway through Chapter 2, (the period scene, I believe) my mom couldn't take it any more. She crawled out of bed, somehow got into the kitchen, threw the book into the trash, and managed to get into bed again before passing out. This woman is also an English teacher, for whom books are precious... she hadn't done that before, and hasn't since. Now I knew these stories beforehand, true, but I decided to go into it with an open mind and see what all the fuss was about. I got through Chapter 3 before I decided it wasn't worth it to torture myself for a book I didn't have to read for class, and bagged it. I read "Children of the Corn" because it was the shortest story in _Night Shift_, after which I saw the movie and neither did anything for me. A friend of mine (hmmm- the one who got me into Kate, as a matter of faKT :) had _Cycle of the Werewolf_, which has nice pictures. I guess I can't deal with his style. I can't read more than 10 or so pages of it at a time, and why do that to myself when there are so many books out there I want to read? Also, the subject matter in most cases doesn't interest me. My dreams are f*cked enough, I don't need outside help! :) As far as his ego, I've heard from people who know him that he's, uh, interesting to be around. Okay, I haven't had personal contact, but judging from interviews and reports, I don't think I could deal with him. If I liked his stuff I could see myself making an effort, however. So that's why I don't join the thundering hordes in going orgasmic every time a new book of his comes out. They just don't do anything for me, but hey- broccoli and coffee don't do anything for me either, and look how popular *those* are!!! :) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Meredith Tarr "We let the weirdness in..." mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Kate Bush +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 Nov 91 2:50:34 EST From: jessica Subject: "Jusqu'au bout du monde" Hmm. I don't really remember where i got this.. someone from somewhere in europe sent it to me. You made me think of it, I imagine the movie (or at least the title is based on it.) I'll look a little further and see if i can't dig up the reference. (it's certianly not in my head anymore) But I had happened to save the text intself off into a file because I really liked it: L'aventure commence a l'aurore / et l'aurore nous guide en chemin. Il faut toujours etre pret a partir, / a quitte sa maison, aller jusqu'au bout du monde; c'est la que j'irai. It basically means: "The adventure begins at sunrise / and the sunrise guides our way. You must always be ready to leave, / to leave your home, to go to the end of the earth; it is there that I go." I may in fact have used it as my .sig for a while. (it's saved as .sig.new, but i don't remember if it ever was .signature) It goes with how I feel pretty well, anyway. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! 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