Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1118 ecto, Number 1118 Wednesday, 18 May 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Ectophiles Gathering, Edinburgh, Saturday June 11 Ecto Crossword Puzzle available on request Vancouver Ectophile Gathering? Ingrid Karklins reviewed for sale: 2 tickets for Sarah McLachlan in Seattle music purchase of the month A few things Lisa Germano's First CD Lisa Germano Re: Lisa Germano Dr. Seuss Interpretation of CITH Re: Dr. Seuss Interpretation of CITH Latest plug for the Loreena McKennitt mailing list Chicago Tori tix sale date I need a vacation... ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Ectophiles Gathering, Edinburgh, Saturday June 11 Just a reminder to all you Euroectophiles that several of us (including Steve Fagg, Tim Cook, Jens Brage, Jim Gurley) will be gathering in Edinburgh on Saturday June 11. We're still aren't certain of the exact time or place but it will be in late afternoon. Does anyone else want to join us there? Ilka, we changed it from Sunday to Saturday to make it easier for you to get there--will you be coming? Email me if you have any questions. Jim and I will be staying in a fairly inexpensive B&B if you need any leads on accommodations there. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any ectophiles there who can offer places to sleep. It's not the Kate Convention, but it will be fun. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 23:40:27 Subject: Ecto Crossword Puzzle available on request There have been requests to post the Ecto crossword puzzle that I created for the Cambridge EctoParty. Unfortunately this isn't that easy, as the board is quite big and contains numbers up to 107. How to do that in ASCII characters? I thought a bit about it, and came up with the following two solutions: PCL version (ca. 22 KB in size) requirements: - access to the UUDECODE utility - access to a HP Laserjet compatible printer (supporting PCL) GIF version (ca. 40 KB in size) requirements: - access to the UUDECODE utility - access to a program which can print GIF pictures on your printer If you can use both alternatives, I would recommend the PCL version, which is not only smaller, but will also create a better quality printout. Because of it's size I won't post them either, but if you like to get it and are able to use them in one of the available formats, send me a message at klaus@inphobos.wupper.de requesting either the _PCL_ or the _GIF_ version. Both contain the questions/clues as readable text and the grid as a uuencoded file (PCL or GIF file), as well as simple instructions on how to use it. This is a corrected version of the original puzzle, which contained several errors. It's exactly the version I sent out to Happy herself today. It still violates some crossword rules, but it's not too bad for a first try. Remember: it is real difficult. This surely can't please everybody, but it's the only way to get it that I can offer right now. Cheers, Klaus PS: future versions of 'Rhodeways' might contain more Happy Rhodes crosswords (hint hint :) ___________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . | --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.wupper.de | <== ======================================================================== From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Vancouver Ectophile Gathering? Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 15:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Speaking of ectophilic get-togethers, I've been talking with some of the IRC #ecto folks (funny how the IRC channel has come to develop its own sort of parallel community, in large part separate from the list) about a Vancouver-area ecto party. Right now I'm casting around for possible dates. It seems that sometime towards the end of August would be good for most folks (and hopefully Holly will be able to come 8) ) so far. Would anyone who's interested in an ectophilic bash around then please drop me a line? Vancouver, although not home to many ectophiles, is a day's drive from much of the northwestern US. And is a fabulously nifty city to boot! :) We've also talked about the possibility of going to beautiful Long Beach on the wild west coast of Vancouver Island for an ectophile picnic on the beach and campout... I'm posting this now because such long-distance get-togethers appear to require a great deal of advance planning and notice! :) - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== From: c.furnald@genie.geis.com Date: Tue, 17 May 94 20:55:00 UTC Subject: Ingrid Karklins reviewed I thought that folks who like Happy might really appreciate this album by Ingrid karklins. If you don't believe me after you read this, ask Woj or meredith, who have both seen her live..... This review appeared in my CMJ column a few weeks ago. INGRID KARKLINS Anima Mundi Green Linnet Ingrid embodies what I find most important in music, a timelessness that keeps the future and the past firmly in view, while being totally absorbed in the present. She uses the folk (a word she HATES, BTW) traditions of her parent's Latvian and her own Anglo-Celtic American roots in innovative, creative ways that allow her to make new music that reflects but never mimics any of its inspirations. She is equally enthralled by the ancient strum of the kokle harp and the modern possibilities of electronic keyboard. Through all of her previous work, these search for balance has been a promise of great things. What sets Anima Mundi apart from her other work (and the work of everyone else around her) is that while previously she made exciting explorations into music, here she has made a full blown discovery. I always wondered "What is she going to do next?" Now I wonder how she's going to get any better than this. The songwriting is darker, deeper and more mystical. The music is more fully realized, complex and personal. And then there's the band; the current incarnation of Backbone is skilled, creative and adventurous.The heart of the band is bassist Steve Bernal, who can fuse folk (that word again!), funk and outright outrageousness into a single phrase, and a phenomenal young drummer, Chris Searles. Searles took the last Backbone tour to the Northeast this winter, and he amazed me. His skewed sense of timing, his intuitive ability to know where the silences are, and his open approach to unusual sounds and combinations reflects Ingrid's own attitudes and ideas. The rest of the entourage for this record includes the ghostly vocals of Malford Milligan, guitarist Craig #7 (the other member of the winter touring group), Susan Voelz on violin and a small string section. There have been endless comparisons of Ingrid to Kate Bush, Boiled in Lead, even Laurie Anderson. It's the diversity of these comparisions that makes it clear what an original she is. Her dense poetic impulses, her uninhibited fusion of folk and pop and her humorous flair all sum up an art that deserves nothing as simple as comparative study. cliff furnald (review originally appeared in CMJ magazine, NY) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 20:09:57 -0700 From: hinshaw@cs.washington.edu (Kevin Hinshaw) Subject: for sale: 2 tickets for Sarah McLachlan in Seattle Calling all Seattle-area Sarah McLachlan fans: I have two tickets available for her concert this Sunday, May 22nd. I'd just like to get back what I paid for them. And the seats are terrific -- second row, center section! (It's killing me to give these up, but I can't do anything about it, and at least I'll be able to see Sarah in Portland.) So e-mail me if interested. Thanks much! -Kevin ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 94 00:27:16 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: music purchase of the month Last weekend, I decided that I'd had enough of listening to so many people's recommendations about music without doing anything about it. So I went to one of my favorite record stores and picked up some CDs. First, I found Sarah McLachlan's _Solace_ and bought it. It was among several copies of _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ and another CD titled something like "Sarah McLachlan Live". I've listened to it, and it's good. Then I started browsing, since _Solace_ was the only CD I had in mind to buy when I went in. I found the large section they had for Dead Can Dance. All I vaguely remembered from a recent discussion was that _Aion_ seemed to be recommended, so I got that, and then I saw the cover for _Within the Realm of a Dying Sun_, which I had the vague impression was not as strongly recommended but I liked the look of it. I now claim _Within the Realm of a Dying Sun_ as my music purchase of the month. It is an amazing album. I think I may be starting to annoy my office mates by playing it loudly in my office with the door closed, but I don't care. Part of the reason I was attracted to it was that it seemed to echo thematically Gene Wolfe's _Book of the New Sun_ series, I don't know whether it's coincidence or not, but especially songs like "Xavier" just seem to match the mood, setting, and characters of the books perfectly. I still like _Aion_ but it doesn't grab me the way songs like "Summoning of the Muse" or "Anywhere out of the World" do. Now I'm really curious about Dead Can Dance and how Brendan Perry and Lisa Gerrard do what they do. PS. Meredith, can you resend me your Champagne Jam request number again? I had to do some housecleaning and lost my Echo archive with last night's postings. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 94 13:52:29 EST From: Ilka Heber Subject: A few things Hi everybody, first of all thanks to woj for reviewing Rachel Morrison. A shame, he didn't like her so much, but then again, not everybody likes the same thing, right? = ) I just wanted to put straight that it's actually not Rachel on the guitar, but her husband Tom. He also operates a bass drum, but that's it! Hey, I envy Valerie for going to Albuquerque!! I love the place - have a good time there!!!! *hugs* Thanks to Nelson (?) for posting the Lisa Germano Press Release. I found it very interesting! Does anybody have any idea whether it is possible to find the album "On the Way Down from the Moon Palace"? I would really love to have it and I would appreciate any help in finding it. I was also a little confused about the following paragraph: > 4AD's issue of the 'Happiness'LP features material remixed by John > Fryer and Ivo, different artwork & running order, extra tracks ("Betty > Says...", "Destroy The Flower", The Earth"), "You Make Me Want To Wear > Dresses" has transformed into "The Dresses Song", and 'Happiness' now > excludes the cover of "These Boots Are Made For Walking". Is this the European Version of the album? I've seen it, and it does have different artwork than the American version, I also know it doesn't have "These Boots...", but I didn't notice the different songs. I would appreciate if somebody could shed some light. Actually, for those of you who like Lisa: you should try and find the EP "Inconsiderate Bitch". It has 5 songs on it, but different versions than the ones on the album. I like it very much and it has great artwork. The song titles are, as far as I remember: - Happiness - Sycophant - Puppet - (Late Night) Dresses - ...ehrm... and something else... = ) Ilka = ) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 94 14:59:34 EST From: Ilka Heber Subject: Lisa Germano's First CD Hi everybody, I just wanted to let you know that, thanks to Tim Cook (*HUGS*), I already located a copy of Lisa Germano's album "On the Way Down...". Thanks, Ilka = ) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Lisa Germano Glad Tim found you a copy, Ilka. For people on this side of the Atlantic (and on the other, they accept international orders) _On the Way Down to the Moon Palace_ is available from the Ladyslipper catalog. I don't have the info here with me, but they have an 800 number for North American orders which you can get from the 800 operator by calling 1-800-555-1212. Ladyslipper carries Happy and has done for quite a while. They're incredibly supportive of independent female music. Vickie posted the Happy reviews from their catalog a few weeks ago--they're wonderful! BTW, I tried writing to an address listed for _On the Way Down to the Moon Palace_ in _Option_ magazine in about January (there was an add for it from a place called Egg Records) and it came back, and wrote to Lisa herself and it came back with a forwarding expired notice. I wrote to the address on the notice and didn't ever hear back. Just wanted to let you know my experience so no one else has to experience the whole thing as I did. Ladyslipper was out of stock on it and had to re-order, but I did get it in about a month. And then didn't like it nearly as much as _Happiness_, but so it goes. BTW, does anyone have both versions of _Happiness_? I almost bought the new one the other day, but with the house purchase we're on an austerity program. How does it compare with the old one? Any recommendations? --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Wed, 18 May 94 16:51:51 BST Subject: Re: Lisa Germano Neile sez: > BTW, does anyone have both versions of _Happiness_? I almost bought the > new one the other day, but with the house purchase we're on an austerity > program. How does it compare with the old one? Any recommendations? I like the U.S. release simply because it has a great cover of Nancy Sinatra's - "These Boots Were Made for Walking". Which reminds me - a trivia question for y'all. I remember hearing a great high energy version of TBWMfW quite a while back but I haven't a clue who did it. Anyone know the answer? tim ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 94 10:32:31 PDT From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: Dr. Seuss Interpretation of CITH _The Cat in the Hat_ by Dr. Seuss, 61 pages. Beginner Books, $3.95 The Cat in the Hat is a hard-hitting novel of prose and poetry in which the author re-examines the dynamic rhyming schemes and bold imagery of some of his earlier works, most notably _Green Eggs and Ham_, _If I Ran the Zoo_, and _Why Can't I Shower With Mommy?_ In this novel, Theodore Geisel, writing under the pseudonym Dr. Seuss, pays homage to the great Dr. Sigmund Freud in a nightmarish fantasy of a renegade feline helping two young children understand their own frustrated sexuality. The story opens with two youngsters, a brother and a sister, abandoned by their mother, staring mournfully through the window of their single-family dwelling. In the foreground, a large tree/phallic symbol dances wildly in the wind, taunting the children and encouraging them to succumb to the sexual yearnings they undoubtedly feel for each other. Even to the most unlearned reader, the blatant references to the incestuous relationship the two share set the tone for Seuss' probing examination of the satisfaction of primitive needs. The Cat proceeds to charm the wary youths into engaging in what he so innocently refers to as "tricks." At this point, the fish, an obvious Christ figure who represents the prevailing Christian morality, attempts to warn the children, and thus, in effect, warns all of humanity of the dangers associated with the unleashing of the primal urges. In response to this, the cat proceeds to balance the aquatic naysayer on the end of his umbrella, essentially saying, "Down with morality; down with God!" After poohpoohing the righteous rantings of the waterlogged Christ figure, the Cat begins to juggle several icons of Western culture, most notably two books, representing the Old and New Testaments, and a saucer of lactal fluid, an ironic reference to maternal loss the two children experienced when their mother abandoned them "for the afternoon." Our heroic Id adds to this bold gesture a rake and a toy man, and thus completes the Oedipal triangle. Later in the novel, Seuss introduces the proverbial Pandora's box, a large red crate out of which the Id releases Thing One, or Freud's concept of Ego, the division of the psyche that serves as the conscious mediator between the person and reality, and Thing Two, the Superego which functions to reward and punish through a system of moral attitudes, conscience, and guilt. Referring to this box, the Cat says, "Now look at this trick. Take a look!" In this, Dr. Seuss uses the children as a brilliant metaphor for the reader, and asks the reader to re-examine his own inner self. The children, unable to control the Id, Ego, and Superego allow these creatures to run free and mess up the house, or more symbolically, control their lives. This rampage continues until the fish, or Christ symbol, warns that the mother is returning to reinstate the Oedipal triangle that existed before her abandonment of the children. At this point, Seuss introduces a many-armed cleaning device which represents the psychoanalytic couch, which proceeds to put the two youngsters' lives back in order. With powerful simplicity, clarity, and drama, Seuss reduces Freud's concepts on the dynamics of the human psyche to an easily understood gesture. Mr. Seuss' poetry and choice of words is equally impressive and serves as a splendid counterpart to his bold symbolism. In all, his writing style is quick and fluid, making _The Cat in the Hat_ impossible to put down. While this novel is 61 pages in length, and one can read it in five minutes or less, it is not until after multiple readings that the genius of this modern day master becomes apparent. ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Dr. Seuss Interpretation of CITH Date: Wed, 18 May 94 13:54:34 -0400 From: Dan Riley Just for the sake proper scholarly attributions, the copy I have includes the text: Freud on Seuss a book review by Josh LeBeau (copied from the Koala, UCSD's humour newspaper, which has no copyright notices in it anywhere) I first saw it sometime prior to April of 1990 (that's the date on the file, but that just means that was when I moved it to my current /home; given that price of $3.95, I imagine it is a lot older). Amazing how these things keep making the rounds... -dan ======================================================================== From: dcwalter@tomservo.edaal.ingr.com (Christian Walters) Subject: Latest plug for the Loreena McKennitt mailing list Date: Wed, 18 May 94 13:10:52 CDT Hello! Here is my latest plug for "The Old Ways," a mailing list for Loreena McKennitt fans. Loreena is currently on tour in North America, supporting her latest album "The Mask and Mirror". I've seen a bunch of questions about her in various other groups and on UseNet, and here is your chance to ask them in front of people who know these sorts of things. Or at least will help you find out :) NEW FEATURE: "The Old Ways" is now available in digest (big thanks to Anthony Kosky for helping me with the scripts to do it). If you want to receive it as a digest, tell me when you subscribe. If you don't specify anything, you'll be put on the bounce list. To subscribe or any other admin-type things, send mail to: old-ways-request@tomservo.b23b.ingr.com To send a message to everyone, it's: old-ways@tomservo.b23b.ingr.com Loreena's wrapping up her tour soon, but she's planning on a more extensive one in the fall. Sign up now for any late-breaking news, or late-breaking gossip, or any other late-breaking things. -- Christian Walters * We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. dcwalter@ingr.com * But we can't scoff at them personally, to their Intergraph Corp * faces, and this is what annoys me. ======================================================================== From: Aeren Hawkins Subject: Chicago Tori tix sale date Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 17:21:52 -0500 (CDT) Tickets to Tori's show at the Bismark go on sale Monday, May 23rd at 10 am at all TicketMaster (tm) locations, according to Q101, Our New Rock Alternative (tm). Aeren ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 17:19:33 CDT From: Subject: I need a vacation... Downloading years of files is no picnic. This morning, a glitch in the LAN led to the loss of everything I'd written to the pseudo-hard disk server, forcing me to pull it from the mainframe archive again. Plus the old 5.25" diskettes I was trying to use up seem to be replete with bad spots, causing errors in reading the files I thought had been written w/o a hitch. Happily, I made the decision to copy the few files involved to my new stash of 3.5" diskettes, and to use only them from now on; so I think I'm back up to speed now. Yesterday _World News Now_ accompanied the weather with the bridge from one of Loreena's recordings. They may just be receptive to Happy's music. They also did a piece on Dr. Suess's just-unearthed manuscript. Mitch ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)