Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1102 ecto, Number 1102 Tuesday, 3 May 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Spinanes on Conan O'Brien Is woj around ??? WAAAHHAHAHAA!!!! Heather Nova Re: Mail, Mosaic, McKennitt That was the weekend that was (part 1) Bdays and... (and Sarah McLachlan) Re: That was the weekend that was (part 1) California Frente! tour dates attn Ilka Greetings again! World Cafe station in Boston? Sinead,Sarah B.,Sarah M.,Over The Rhine,etc. Eddi Reader Sinead,Sarah B.,Sarah M.,Over The Rhine,etc. A buncha Tori tour dates Ecto classified ads -- 2 May 1994 Luc and other stories tidbits from FM ======================================================================== From: Ethan_Straffin@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Date: Mon, 2 May 94 10:58:12 -0700 Subject: Spinanes on Conan O'Brien Just a quick note to inform/remind all of you in the U.S. that singer-guitarist Rebecca Gates and drummer Scott Plouf, a.k.a. the Spinanes, will appear on Conan O'Brien's show on Tuesday, May 3. I've been falling in love with their album _Manos_ for weeks now (comparisons to Liz Phair come to mind, and not just because they opened for her) and highly recommend trying to catch this. To do my best Joe Bob Briggs imitation, Ethan sez check it out... Ethan ======================================================================== From: boek Subject: Is woj around ??? Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 21:24:35 +0200 (MET DST) Sorry to bother the list, but I tried private email and have received no reply, and I am worried that I have the wrong address (woj@remus.somewhere) or something. If you are reading this, woj, please mail me, as I have a favour to ask :). It involves a box that is currently with Bob Lovejoy. I will expand when I have made contact :) Thanks! Chris. -- --_ /| \ ) Christopher Boek boek@hacktic.nl | \_| / PieterMolijnlaan 12, 2343 ES Oegstgeest +31 71 173984 | | /x ( <-- LEIDEN | \ == _ | "Hebban olla vogala nestas hugunnan hinase hic anda ===---/ |( thu" - Earliest surviving Germanic text (Gothic) -- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 2 May 94 14:47:29 PDT From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: WAAAHHAHAHAA!!!! I wanna be on this list! *sniff* "patience, my stalwart child." Hey. San Fran/Bay area ecto party, my house, ok? Anyone interested please email me at snpf@lucid.com. It'll be cool! -seanympf ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 2 May 94 14:55:19 -0700 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Heather Nova Ilka, Thank you for sharing the story of the Heather Nova concert. I had never heard of her until Tim Cook sent me a disc. Now "Blow" is frequently in the CD player. Wish i could see her live! Mp ----- Michael Peskura -- University of Washington -- Seattle USA ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 3 May 94 09:11:06 +1000 From: jobinf@qdpii.ind.dpi.qld.gov.au (Frederic Jobin Last of The Datsun Bros) Subject: Re: Mail, Mosaic, McKennitt Wendy says: >May 24th at the Warfield in S.F. also. I get so jealous of all the midwest >and east coast and european hooplah, not enough has been happening here. Well at least you haven't been waiting since January or was is December to see The Line, The Curve and The Cross. EMI say their working on it but we'll see. I guess I'm just a dude from the swamps trying to get a bit of culture. Or as Kermit said, "It's not easiy being green." And is not either. Sorry about the raving on. Fre|>eric ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 02 May 94 18:05:00 CDT From: A puzzling and fascinating figure Subject: That was the weekend that was (part 1) Since it usually seems to fall to me to do some kind of chronicle of the sundry ecto-gatherings in this town, that's what I'll do for this, my first posting to these pages in days. It was uncertain on Friday afternoon whether I'd have time to go up to O'Hare to join the welcoming committee for Steve Fagg. As fate would have it, I was able to wind up my list-wrangling for the day in time to have a fighting chance of getting there by his stated arrival time. As I walked toward the L station, a train pulled out above, filling me with a paroxysm of great frustration. To my pleasant surprise, the wait for the next one was shorter than expected; but it proceeded to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, as it were, by standing at the next station, at length, for no apparent reason. It finally got off the dime, and proceeded expeditiously as far as somewhere in Wicker Park (or Guy- ville, as it is known to Liz Phair fans), when it again went into procrastina- tion mode. Sooner or later, it started up again, and I consoled myself with the observation that most flights probably don't land precisely at the publish- ed times as I observed the changes in the built environment as I got further into the urban hinterland. Finally, the train arrived at the O'Hare station, and I rushed upstairs to a corridor where a sign gave directions to the various terminals. I walked over the moving sidewalk to a juncture where I followed the sign and went upstairs for the next leg of the journey to the international terminal. This turned out to be a stop on the route of the shuttle train between the several terminals and the peripheral parking lots. A train either was there, or arrived shortly after. I got on, noting with curiosity the lack of seats, and wondered if this was the vaunted Cool Thing of which we periodically read in these pages (it isn't; that's actually the moving sidewalk in the United terminal, according to Vickie, which is flanked its full length by a wall of stained glass or something like that). The little train finally pulled out, and stopped at a couple of more terminals before reaching the international. I consulted the sign at the stairs, and went upstairs to arrivals rather than downstairs to departures. A monitor listed Steve's flight with a scheduled arrival time 15 minutes later than he'd posted to the list, but that it had arrived anyhow. A security guard whom I asked told me its passengers hadn't come down yet. I positioned myself in the crowd behind the rope, and saw Vickie a few yards away, whereupon I repositioned myself. Vickie told me she was going to meet Elizabeth at Union Station later, albeit some time after her train was scheduled to arrive. Vickie made a number of mental notes about the layout of the terminal, for use in the journey to the Konvention in the not too distant future. Finally Steve emerged from the space behind the doors, and we headed for the subway. We determined that a different terminal than I had gone through before was actually closer thereto, and got off the shuttle train a stop earlier than I'd gotten on it outbound. Unlike my original route, this one entailed going through the parking garage, and then taking the elevator down several floors and going through a different tunnel--without benefit of a moving sidewalk--to get to the subway station. Steve quipped that the same tiles that were missing from the walls when he was here last year were still missing. Eventually we found the station, and Steve bought some tokens from a machine. He and Vickie then went through the turnstile, while my weekly pass and I queued up behind a number of out-of-town visitors (I surmised) who were waiting to get their bills changed at the booth. Finally, I caught up with Steve and Vickie on the platform downstairs, and we boarded a train. As we rode back downtown, I tried to give Vickie directions to Union station from the nearest station of the subway line we were on, and it became clear to me that it might be expedient to ride with them for the full distance. In retrospect, I should have known what was foreshadowed by the way my directions were coming across. At last we reached the Clinton station, and detoured over to the post office for Vickie to check her box. With Vickie armed with the latest issue of the Really Deep Thoughts zine, we headed up Canal Street to the newer half of the station. The latter in in the finished basement of a nondescript office building for which the original concourse building, a most resplendent piece of station architecture, had been demolished years earlier. Vickie noticed a woman waiting indside the door, and asked if she was Elizabeth (she wasn't). Neither she nor Steve had been in that part of the station before, so they were dependent on my navigation. We went through the underground concourse to the great hall, where Elizabeth said she'd wait. After a bit of scanning the horizon, I recognized her, being the only one of us who'd actually met her up to that point. We all went back upstairs, and commiserated on the most efficacious means to get Steve to his hotel, and Vickie and Elizabeth to Vickie's place. The closest stop for buses to both destinations is at Dearborn and Jackson, so I tried to guide this trio of slightly wired people to the opposite corner of Jackson and Canal, where eastbound buses on several routes stop. As I oriented myself, a #157 rounded the corner, toward its stop on the other end of the block, on the same side of Canal where we still were. There were no buses immediately visible on Jackson, and it dawned on me--too late--that we could have caught that 157 to Dearborn and Washington, where it connected with the same routes that they would catch at Jackson. I tried to explain the vicissitudes of the fare structure, and kept my fingers crossed that I might actually be communicating. Finally, a #7 arrived, and we piled on. I pointed out to Steve when we passed the site of the plaque on the Continental Bank building, commemorating the arrival on earth of standard time zones on that site sometime in the previous century. We disembarked at Jackson and Dearborn, and rounded the corner toward the stop where the northbound buses are caught. As it happens, the #36 runs to within a block of Steve's hotel, while the #22 runs directly to the block Vickie lives on. Inasmuch as I myself would be departing from our little social system to catch the #6 a block away, Vickie concluded that it would be pragmatic for them all to take the 36 in order to be able to talk Steve through his part of the trek; she and Elizabeth could transfer again when they hit her neighborhood. With the impromptu assistance of someone else who was waiting, I tried to explain how to recognize State and Division on the basis of the left turn, the singles bars, the condom shop, and the Rose Records which has allegedly folded since the last time I rode past it. They all admitted to being hopelessly confused by my attempted tutelage in practical navigation. Finally their bus arrived, they went their way, and I went mine. (to be continued) A belated happy May Day to all. Mitch ------------------------ "Freedom is in your head." --Celebrants performing outside the South African consulate in Chicago during absentee balloting there for that country's election ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 2 May 94 19:49:25 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Bdays and... (and Sarah McLachlan) (Belated but sincere) HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Geoff Parks!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to William Morse!! (Only a fan would...) HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Barney Parker!! (it's Happy's cat, you see) :-) (In advance) HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Gray Abbott!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Tamar Boursalian!! Thanks to NeAl for the Over The Rhine review (you *have* to get _Patience_, it's wonderful!) and to Doug for the Victoria review (I don't agree with all of it, but it was nice. I'm one of those crazys who just love her voice, but I understand about the 'acquired taste' bit) Thanks to Jess for the digests :), I'm glad you're getting settled ok. Chris Farmer, it's good to see you back! Seanympf, *HUG*, it shouldn't be long. Sarah McLachlan was *wonderful* Saturday night! Others have posted about the show, so I won't review it. I had as good a time on Saturday day, when Sarah appeared live at Best Buy (!!?!!) and performed 3 songs. She sang "Ice Cream," "Good Enough" and "Path Of Thorns" just her singing and playing guitar. After that, she signed autographs. Meth, I did ask her if she'd listened to RhodeSongs yet, and she said no, that she usually always waits until she gets home after the tour to listen to things she's been given. She was very nice, and I got a poster signed. She remembered Chris from the Schubas show years ago! What a memory! I'll leave it to Valerie to fill in details of Sarah's signing someone's butt :) since she was closer. Steve Fagg is in town, visiting from England, and was at the in-store too, as was Elizabeth, who did make it from Kalamazoo, and stayed at our place Friday and Saturday nights. Valerie, Morpheus (from irc), Stacey (from fte & rdt), Mitch, Kathleen, an Ecto lurker, Chris and I were all at the in-store, then many of us ate Chicago Pizza (not the best in town though) at Ginos East. It's quite an amazing place, where they encourage antisocial vandelism :). Nearly every square inch of the restaurant is covered with graffiti...nothing is sacred, honest. I did my bit for goddessvangelizing by writing the names (using a Sharpie) of the (my) main goddesses on the cheese dispenser and the water pitcher. (I swear, it's *encouraged*! Someone back me up on this) We were joined at the concert by Chip and ? (oh god, my mind just went blank..I'm sorry Chip), and during Sarah's introduction of Luc, we heard a lone voice call out "Use the Force!" which turned out to be our palindrome man himself, MJM. (I myself was so engrossed with the whole thing that I totally forgot about doing it, until I heard Mike yell... and the funny thing was, I was sitting directly beneath Luc!) The concert was great, Sarah was great, the band was great...it was great! What else is there to say? The Devlins opened for Sarah, and I liked them...they seemed like a bunch of nice guys and their music was good. The only thing that marred a perfect day was the weather, which was atrocious. Windy, rainy, cold...yuck! Other than that though, I had a great time, and thanks go to Valerie for keeping track of the details and setting everything up! Since I don't listen to the radio, I know I would have missed the in-store if it hadn't been for Valerie and Ecto. eikciv "Pass the Goddess Cheese, please!" ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 2 May 94 20:01:47 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: That was the weekend that was (part 1) Mitch writes, about our eventful Friday: > Since it usually seems to fall to me to do some kind of chronicle of the > sundry ecto-gatherings in this town, that's what I'll do for this, my first > posting to these pages in days. You do these things so well Mitch! Your directions were just fine Mitch...they really did help, and I'm glad you were along for the journey. eikciv (name rearranged to spare gaffians from groaning agony) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 2 May 94 20:12:51 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: California Frente! tour dates Got this from alt.music.alternative -------------- From: guitarman@maple.circa.ufl.edu Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative Subject: FRENTE! TOUR DATES FRENTE! tour dates as follows: 5/15 Palo Alto, CA Frost Amphitheater-Stanford U. 5/16 Sacramento, CA Radisson Hotel Courtyard 5/18 San Francisco, CA The Fillmore 5/19 Fullerton, CA UC Fullerton Pub 5/20 San Diego, CA Sun God Festival Dates are always subject to change. Confirm w/ the venue- G-man --------------------- v ======================================================================== From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Subject: attn Ilka Date: Mon, 2 May 94 19:59:41 EDT If you'd e-mail me your list, I'll see what we can do. I can't bit net posts or find my how to get the other address post! This is re:books. brad -- bhutchin@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu There's some real people in the world and some who are pretend. --Robyn Hitchcock ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 22:29:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Greetings again! Hi folks, We are certainly lucky to be in Philly, home of the World Cafe and WXPN. Today's paper had an article abouthow the Cafe was scrambling for funding, and might have to go through some changes to make it; specifically altering the structure of the program to allow commercial stations to carry it. Seems all the APR stations that are going to carry it have it, so the potential for growth is limited. Many APR stations refuse to carry it, calling it a "yuppie jukebox". Still, one would be hard-pressed to come up with a program that features live performances and interviews with so many artists we've come to know and love on ecto. When is everyone leaving for the Konvention? woj, if it's at all possible I have a small package I'd like to get to you for Chris Boek! (Sorry for the bandwidth there, folks...) Hope everyone who is going has a great time! Oh, to be in England... Loreena's TM&TM continues to grow on me. They are talking about her a bit over on alt.music.enya, so I popped in and did a little Happyvangelizing. Quite a tolerant group for usenet. (rmg is approaching shamblehood!) Panix, meanwhile, has not yet added a.m.ecto or a.m.p.f.... In closing, I'd like to remind everyone to floss. I had to have periodontal surgery last Friday and would not recommend that for anyone. 'Nuff said, take care everyone! Oh yeah, welcome new ectophiles I've missed saying hello to, esp. Wendy E. the music addict (great posts!), welcome back snmf!, and what's brni up to these days? Bob Lovejoy ======================================================================== From: jeffw@jane (Jeff Wasilko) Subject: World Cafe station in Boston? Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 22:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Does anyone know what station in Boston carries World Cafe? Or, is there someone I can call to find out who carries it? Thanks a million! -Jeff -- Jeff @ Home.... "Two days to get there by boat. It takes forever if you go by inertia, no time if you don't believe in time."--Jane Siberry ======================================================================== Date: 03 May 94 03:09:35 EDT From: "Wendy E." <72064.3606@compuserve.com> Subject: Sinead,Sarah B.,Sarah M.,Over The Rhine,etc. Hello my fellow ectonians - Message from Angelos Kyrlidis: >Wendy E. writes: >>I like Sinead O'Connor a lot but I must say her CD "Am I Not Your Girl? is >>definitely *not* worth having. I was shocked and totally dismayed by it. >Ah, come on. It's not that bad. I personally like it a lot, even though it >doesn't even come close to the other two albums. Why were you shocked? >You *did* know that it was an album of covers, didn't you? I am really embarrassed now! I didn't even look at the songs she was going to sing because I like all her other recordings. Blind purchase or maybe I'm just a fool in love!!! That's why I was so shocked. Because of course I thought it was our usual Sinead... God I feel so stupid!!! I'm willing to give it a second chance though. SHOPPING ADVENTURE yesterday brought into my ECTO inspired collection from again Logo's (IMHO absolutely the best used book & music store on the west coast): Sarah Brightman - "Dive" You can't help but feel her power and beauty in her music. She is very poppy but unusual sounding, kind of reminds me of when I first heard Ofra Haza or Sheila Chandra. The ocean/sailor theme is a nice catch. Her music is powerful, seductive and very produced but I like that it's on A&M Records like so many of other great artists. Sarah McLachlan - "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy" You were right. This is great. I especially liked songs "Possession" and "Circle". She is definitely fumbling her way into my heart. Penelope Houston and Her Band - "The Whole World" Gotta be in the right mood for her off key voice but it's nice and raw. Great acoustic instrument choices. I wish she included her lyrics in the cd. They sounded great. Almost reminded me of Suzanne Vega at times. Concrete Blond - "Bloodletting" I can't stop playing this. Johnette Napolitana, the vocalist and song- writer, is brilliant. They are a very solid sounding rock band that keeps me swaying, dancing all around my house and then screaming for more. I *must* see them live. Over The Rhine - "Patience" Do you ever wonder why you find such great stuff used? How could anyone let loose of something so incredibly great? It's one of life's true mysteries. But it's always lucky for us used scroungers to find the buried treasures amongst such boring crap. Well, this one was quite the find. Thank you to all of you that mentioned this recording in particular. This is the work of true musical genius. They have kind of a feel of Clannad, October Project, Renaissance, and yes! even Happy Rhodes with some pop/rap/country/Brazilian sounds mixed in. Now I know this is heaven... Bought new: Judie Tzuke - "Road Noise" This is her live double album. I ordered this months ago and finally it came in from England. It's a great live album. The reason I had to have it was for the song "Bring The Rain". Heard it on the radio and was totally captivated. Other favorite songs done live of hers are "For You", and "Stay With Me Till Dawn". She is a wonderful songwriter and singer. She is very hard to find though. Sound familiar? Thanks Bob Lovejoy for you welcome message. It made me feel all warm & fuzzy. On again and off again, Wendy E. from Santa Cruz ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Tue, 3 May 94 10:14:44 BST Subject: Eddi Reader Probably only of interest to Mancunian ectophiles! Eddi Reader (ex. Fairground Attraction) has got a band together called (appropriately enough) the Eddi Reader Band. They're playing in Manchester some time this week (May 6th/7th I think). If anyone is interested I can dig the info out for them. tim ======================================================================== From: "Andy Wee/(419) 634-0410" Subject: Sinead,Sarah B.,Sarah M.,Over The Rhine,etc. Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 07:56:05 -0500 (EDT) Forwarded message: > From daemon Tue May 3 03:30:57 1994 > Date: 03 May 94 03:09:35 EDT > From: "Wendy E." <72064.3606@compuserve.com> > To: "ECTO (ALL SUBSCRIBERS)" > Subject: Sinead,Sarah B.,Sarah M.,Over The Rhine,etc. > Message-Id: <940503070935_72064.3606_GHB53-2@CompuServe.COM> > > Hello my fellow ectonians - > Wendy E. writes: > Concrete Blonde - "Bloodletting" > I can't stop playing this. Johnette Napolitana, the vocalist and song- > writer, is brilliant. They are a very solid sounding rock band that > keeps me swaying, dancing all around my house and then screaming for more. > I *must* see them live. this might be hard since they've already done their last tour... andy ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 3 May 94 9:25:10 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: A buncha Tori tour dates Haloo, I hadn't seen that anyone had posted these yet. --------------------------- From: nrc@cbemf.att.com Subject: ****> US TOUR DATES <**** Here it is folks, confirmed tour dates for the beginning of Tori's US Tour! June 1994 6/7 Brookville, NY Tilles Center / C.W. Post College 6/8